[Talk-us] Gov't/military firing ranges --- not sport

2010-05-08 Thread David Carmean

I'm reluctant to tag civil/military gov't firing ranges as sport.  I'd 
consider them 
more as hazardous areas to mark/avoid, but I don't know how to tag them as 
such.  Ideas?




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Re: [Talk-us] Gov't/military firing ranges --- not sport

2010-05-08 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/8/10 9:40 AM, David Carmean wrote:
 I'm reluctant to tag civil/military gov't firing ranges as sport.  I'd 
 consider them
 more as hazardous areas to mark/avoid, but I don't know how to tag them as 
 such.  Ideas?

landuse=military
military=danger_area

and

landuse=military
military=range

are both documented in the wiki:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Military

i should think you would use danger_area even for inactive ranges, due 
to the potential for
unexploded munitions.

richard


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Re: [Talk-us] Gov't/military firing ranges --- not sport

2010-05-08 Thread Dale Puch
I think I see your concern.  I think Military should be tagged as Richard
suggested, and the civilian ranges, including police should still be
sport:shooting both per the wiki.
Police use public ranges sometiems (or are open to public use) and if not
they are reasonable contained and controlled to police only access anyhow.
Would you be concerned about highway:raceway not conveying the danger of the
area?  You could be killed wandering around the wrong parts of either one.
No need to over think things, and you can't eliminate the need for common
sense with better tagging.

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Dale Puch

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 1:16 PM, David Carmean d...@halibut.com wrote:

 On Sat, May 08, 2010 at 10:39:37AM -0400, Richard Welty wrote:
  On 5/8/10 9:40 AM, David Carmean wrote:
   I'm reluctant to tag civil/military gov't firing ranges as sport.
  I'd consider them
   more as hazardous areas to mark/avoid, but I don't know how to tag them
 as such.  Ideas?
  
  landuse=military
  military=danger_area
 
  and
 
  landuse=military
  military=range
 
  are both documented in the wiki:
 
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Military
 
  i should think you would use danger_area even for inactive ranges, due
  to the potential for
  unexploded munitions.

 Ah, ok; I think I made my question too generic; I actually want to map
 civil
 government (i.e. police) ranges 90% of the time.



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Re: [Talk-us] Gov't/military firing ranges --- not sport

2010-05-08 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/8/10 1:16 PM, David Carmean wrote:
 On Sat, May 08, 2010 at 10:39:37AM -0400, Richard Welty wrote:


 i should think you would use danger_area even for inactive ranges, due
 to the potential for
 unexploded munitions.
  
 Ah, ok; I think I made my question too generic; I actually want to map civil
 government (i.e. police) ranges 90% of the time.


i understand. my immediate reaction was based on the fact that my wife
is a civilian employee of the department of the army, working at the
Watervliet Arsenal, which means she's involved in the business of making
things go boom. so i immediately thought about the ranges used in proof
firing big guns at places like Aberdeen in Maryland. so i wasn't thinking
small ranges, i was thinking very large, very dangerous ones.

richard


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