Re: [Talk-us] How is Scout?
On 6/23/2014 3:15 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: We launched Scout for iOS powered by OpenStreetMap a little over a month ago now, followed by the Android version in early June. While the feedback in general has been overwhelmingly positive, I am really curious to hear about your experiences. Have you tried Scout? What are your impressions? Have you given any feedback using the map error reporting function in the app? I've finally got Scout installed on IOS and working the way I'd like to use it. I have a few notes: 1. After reviewing the tags in the Wiki that are noted - I see that highway=service is not used for through routing. In one case I've seen, that could still be useful if there is no other way to exit a space such as this: http://mapq.st/1p3a3QX From A, I was advised to just go to S Pleasantburg Drive, whereas Skobbler tells you turn by turn. From point A, there are 1 or more parking_aisle + driveway segments to traverse before coming to the roundabout and a named road. 2. A very minor thing: When it got to Douglas W Brister Boulevard, the voice announced it as Douglas West Brister Blvd :-) Otherwise the text to speech works very well - is there any way to hint that the W is not a directional? 3. If it advises to keep left on a 2 lane road, oneway=no, I'm assuming that the number of lanes isn't marked and that if the lanes=2 was added, that the keep left would be omitted for that case. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] How is Scout?
On Jul 18, 2014 7:40 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: 2. A very minor thing: When it got to Douglas W Brister Boulevard, the voice announced it as Douglas West Brister Blvd :-) Otherwise the text to speech works very well - is there any way to hint that the W is not a directional? I actively dislike the voice and wish it used the system's text to speech facility. Android provides for some really high quality voices. 3. If it advises to keep left on a 2 lane road, oneway=no, I'm assuming that the number of lanes isn't marked and that if the lanes=2 was added, that the keep left would be omitted for that case. I actively dislike lanes=* on oneway=no situations, except as a checksum, because you're forcing renderers to make assumptions about placement and directionality: if it's two way, tag lanes:forward and lanes:backward, and use placement:*=* as appropriate. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] How is Scout?
On Jul 18, 2014 7:40 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: 2. A very minor thing: When it got to Douglas W Brister Boulevard, the voice announced it as Douglas West Brister Blvd :-) Another thing that I meant to mention... Scout probably shouldn't try to expand abbreviations, since the policy on names is don't do it, map what it is in order to prevent exactly this kind of glitch. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] How is Scout?
Hi all! We launched Scout for iOS powered by OpenStreetMap a little over a month ago now, followed by the Android version in early June. While the feedback in general has been overwhelmingly positive, I am really curious to hear about your experiences. Have you tried Scout? What are your impressions? Have you given any feedback using the map error reporting function in the app? Nothing major to report from our side. We're looking closely at the map feedback coming in through the apps. Our main objective right now is to make sure the feedback we get is useful so we can fix OSM based on it where necessary. Of course, we would like to involve you in that process - either through MapRoulette, or OSM notes, or some other means - but right now there is too much 'noise' for that to work without us looking at every report first. Which is what we are doing. You may see the odd note appear on the map as a result of this. (see an example here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/187143) Some other OSM related things we're working on currently: * We are fixing ways in OSM that are marked with fixme=dual carriageway (or a variant thereof). * We are adding exit_to information to selected stretches of freeway * We are working on getting fresh data to Scout users faster (currently 2 weeks). * I am working on improving MapRoulette - specifically better statistics As always, feel free to email me directly with questions, feedback or concerns! -- Martijn van Exel OSM data specialist Telenav http://www.osm.org/user/mvexel http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Mvexel http://hdyc.neis-one.org/?mvexel ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] How is Scout?
Martijn, I like it so far! It is hard to part ways with Waze but I do like that the Scout data is all OSM. Question, I occasionally get some weird routing. Is there a good place to discuss these things? Here, twitter, etc? Elliott On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Martijn van Exel marti...@telenav.com wrote: Hi all! We launched Scout for iOS powered by OpenStreetMap a little over a month ago now, followed by the Android version in early June. While the feedback in general has been overwhelmingly positive, I am really curious to hear about your experiences. Have you tried Scout? What are your impressions? Have you given any feedback using the map error reporting function in the app? Nothing major to report from our side. We're looking closely at the map feedback coming in through the apps. Our main objective right now is to make sure the feedback we get is useful so we can fix OSM based on it where necessary. Of course, we would like to involve you in that process - either through MapRoulette, or OSM notes, or some other means - but right now there is too much 'noise' for that to work without us looking at every report first. Which is what we are doing. You may see the odd note appear on the map as a result of this. (see an example here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/187143) Some other OSM related things we're working on currently: * We are fixing ways in OSM that are marked with fixme=dual carriageway (or a variant thereof). * We are adding exit_to information to selected stretches of freeway * We are working on getting fresh data to Scout users faster (currently 2 weeks). * I am working on improving MapRoulette - specifically better statistics As always, feel free to email me directly with questions, feedback or concerns! -- Martijn van Exel OSM data specialist Telenav http://www.osm.org/user/mvexel http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Mvexel http://hdyc.neis-one.org/?mvexel ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- Elliott Plack http://about.me/elliottp ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] How is Scout?
Elliott - if it's not OSM specific but more Scout specific, it's probably best to email me directly. I can make sure that the right people are notified if there's a bug. Martijn On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Elliott Plack elliott.pl...@gmail.com wrote: Martijn, I like it so far! It is hard to part ways with Waze but I do like that the Scout data is all OSM. Question, I occasionally get some weird routing. Is there a good place to discuss these things? Here, twitter, etc? Elliott On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Martijn van Exel marti...@telenav.com wrote: Hi all! We launched Scout for iOS powered by OpenStreetMap a little over a month ago now, followed by the Android version in early June. While the feedback in general has been overwhelmingly positive, I am really curious to hear about your experiences. Have you tried Scout? What are your impressions? Have you given any feedback using the map error reporting function in the app? Nothing major to report from our side. We're looking closely at the map feedback coming in through the apps. Our main objective right now is to make sure the feedback we get is useful so we can fix OSM based on it where necessary. Of course, we would like to involve you in that process - either through MapRoulette, or OSM notes, or some other means - but right now there is too much 'noise' for that to work without us looking at every report first. Which is what we are doing. You may see the odd note appear on the map as a result of this. (see an example here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/187143) Some other OSM related things we're working on currently: * We are fixing ways in OSM that are marked with fixme=dual carriageway (or a variant thereof). * We are adding exit_to information to selected stretches of freeway * We are working on getting fresh data to Scout users faster (currently 2 weeks). * I am working on improving MapRoulette - specifically better statistics As always, feel free to email me directly with questions, feedback or concerns! -- Martijn van Exel OSM data specialist Telenav http://www.osm.org/user/mvexel http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Mvexel http://hdyc.neis-one.org/?mvexel ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- Elliott Plack http://about.me/elliottp ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- -- Martijn van Exel OSM data specialist Telenav http://www.osm.org/user/mvexel http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Mvexel http://hdyc.neis-one.org/?mvexel ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] How is Scout?
Although I don't use it for navigation purposes, it is very cool to have an OSM routing application in my pocket. The ability to play around with an OSM routing engine so easily has caused me to: 1) Identify and fix roads OSM believes are connected that are in fact not and remove them 2) Identify and fix roads OSM believes are not connected that in fact are Playing with a routing engine really makes it easy (and fun?) for you to go huh, that's not right... what is going on here?, look in OSM, and find something to fix. My neighborhood is especially complex, so I look forward to telling Lyft drivers to use Scout rather than Apple/Google maps if they actually wan't to find their way to my house! I guess my only 'negative' feedback is that the lag between me fixing something and actually getting to test the updated routing in Scout. It would be nice to know the update schedule for the routing engine or to receive a notification when the routing engine has received an update. For example, I might not use Scout because I know a particular route it is providing is incorrect and is a result of OSM data being out of data in Scout. This is more from the perspective of the feedback loop of an OSM contributor and not your standard Scout user I suppose. However, if Scout is helping me identify issues with OSM, normal Scout users should be able to take advantage of the updates the community has made based on the routing engine. Daniel Bozeman On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Martijn van Exel marti...@telenav.com wrote: Elliott - if it's not OSM specific but more Scout specific, it's probably best to email me directly. I can make sure that the right people are notified if there's a bug. Martijn On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Elliott Plack elliott.pl...@gmail.com wrote: Martijn, I like it so far! It is hard to part ways with Waze but I do like that the Scout data is all OSM. Question, I occasionally get some weird routing. Is there a good place to discuss these things? Here, twitter, etc? Elliott On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Martijn van Exel marti...@telenav.com wrote: Hi all! We launched Scout for iOS powered by OpenStreetMap a little over a month ago now, followed by the Android version in early June. While the feedback in general has been overwhelmingly positive, I am really curious to hear about your experiences. Have you tried Scout? What are your impressions? Have you given any feedback using the map error reporting function in the app? Nothing major to report from our side. We're looking closely at the map feedback coming in through the apps. Our main objective right now is to make sure the feedback we get is useful so we can fix OSM based on it where necessary. Of course, we would like to involve you in that process - either through MapRoulette, or OSM notes, or some other means - but right now there is too much 'noise' for that to work without us looking at every report first. Which is what we are doing. You may see the odd note appear on the map as a result of this. (see an example here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/187143) Some other OSM related things we're working on currently: * We are fixing ways in OSM that are marked with fixme=dual carriageway (or a variant thereof). * We are adding exit_to information to selected stretches of freeway * We are working on getting fresh data to Scout users faster (currently 2 weeks). * I am working on improving MapRoulette - specifically better statistics As always, feel free to email me directly with questions, feedback or concerns! -- Martijn van Exel OSM data specialist Telenav http://www.osm.org/user/mvexel http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Mvexel http://hdyc.neis-one.org/?mvexel ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- Elliott Plack http://about.me/elliottp ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- -- Martijn van Exel OSM data specialist Telenav http://www.osm.org/user/mvexel http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Mvexel http://hdyc.neis-one.org/?mvexel ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] How is Scout?
I can notify this list whenever we drop new data, if we agree that this is not too spammy. -- Martijn From: Boze theb...@gmail.commailto:theb...@gmail.com Date: Monday, June 23, 2014 at 3:02 PM To: Martijn Van Exel marti...@telenav.commailto:marti...@telenav.com Cc: OSM US Talk talk-us@openstreetmap.orgmailto:talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] How is Scout? It would be nice to know the update schedule for the routing engine or to receive a notification when the routing engine has received an update. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] How is Scout?
Martijn, How often would this be? If it's once every few months, that might not be so bad, but if it's more frequently, maybe Twitter would be better. - Serge ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] How is Scout?
I would be very embarrassed if it were only every few months :) This would be more like every two weeks. I like the Twitter idea. I'll use my own account (@mvexel) for that for now. With a hashtag of some kind probably. On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: Martijn, How often would this be? If it's once every few months, that might not be so bad, but if it's more frequently, maybe Twitter would be better. - Serge ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- -- Martijn van Exel OSM data specialist Telenav http://www.osm.org/user/mvexel http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Mvexel http://hdyc.neis-one.org/?mvexel ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
