Re: [Talk-us] New MapRoulette now in early public beta

[Paul Johnson]

On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 12:28 AM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:

> Thanks Steven.
> Interesting those TIGER deserts still around, isn’t it. I found quite a
> few myself. On Slack we have been discussing how to specifically detect
> them in a way that could make them into good MapRoulette challenges. If you
> have any ideas on how that could be accomplished let me know!
>
> On May 27, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Steven Johnson  wrote:
>
> Martijn & all,
> This is just an awesome tool and it keeps getting better. A happy
> by-product of this: I'm finding this particular challenge useful in
> cleaning up road misalignments left over from the 2008 import of TIGER. So
> great to see this re-deployed.
>
>
I am forever grateful to both of you for this, since I routinely come
across major TIGER deserts where I'm primarily concerned; sometimes in
major cities.  I'd be curious how to get a potential Maproulette project
involved for some of the more trivial issues I'm seeing (the railway
crossing issue has been fantastically simple, even if the difference
between railway=crossing and railway=level_crossing isn't, by the way).

I'd be curious if there's a way to deal with gamifying other attributes of
the TIGER import, since a huge number of ways in OKC are split, which,
contrary to the TIGER import's intentions, seem to be stifling
contributions, since we have far more contributors in Tulsa and Stillwater
(and then, probably largely due to university outreach, given that's a
college city) and even many small towns across Oklahoma and Kansas (without
having, AFAICT, any GIS-dependant fields in the area) have more active
contributors than the deafening silence from OKC metro.  Thankfully, the
lanes Maproulette seems to have not been a factor in Oklahoma County as
much as elsewhere, but it still seems the fact that the TIGER import
contained a high number of improperly divided major thoroughfares is a
barrier to entry in metro OKC.
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Re: [Talk-us] New MapRoulette now in early public beta

[Martijn van Exel]

Thanks Steven.
Interesting those TIGER deserts still around, isn’t it. I found quite a few 
myself. On Slack we have been discussing how to specifically detect them in a 
way that could make them into good MapRoulette challenges. If you have any 
ideas on how that could be accomplished let me know!
Martijn

> On May 27, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Steven Johnson <sejohns...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Martijn & all,
> This is just an awesome tool and it keeps getting better. A happy by-product 
> of this: I'm finding this particular challenge useful in cleaning up road 
> misalignments left over from the 2008 import of TIGER. So great to see this 
> re-deployed. Thanks to you and the team.
> Cheers,
> 
> -- SEJ
> -- twitter: @geomantic
> -- skype: sejohnson8
> 
> A serious and good philosophical work could be written consisting entirely of 
> jokes. --Ludwig Wittgenstein
> 
> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Martijn van Exel <m...@rtijn.org 
> <mailto:m...@rtijn.org>> wrote:
> Excellent, Steve. I am so glad you like it!
> As I mentioned in my announcement, the metrics part will still see 
> significant expansion, so keep an eye out for new ways to slice and dice the 
> data.
> Martijn
> 
> > On May 26, 2016, at 10:53 AM, OSM Volunteer stevea 
> > <stevea...@softworkers.com <mailto:stevea...@softworkers.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Martijn, the new MapRoulette is FANTASTIC!  I used the old one quite a bit, 
> > but I was amazed at how “drop dead easy” this new version is.  In fact, 
> > sort of by stumbling around and trying to figure it out, I did figure it 
> > out and before you know it (just a couple of minutes, really) I had 
> > completed several challenges.  Now THAT how good software should work!
> >
> > I especially like the “Metrics” feature, we see how quickly (or perhaps how 
> > “wrongly” or “more difficultly”) any particular challenge is going. Nothing 
> > like instant feedback!
> >
> > I might have more to say about this as I continue to play around with it, 
> > and indeed “play” is how this feels:  bravo!
> >
> > SteveA
> > California
> >
> >
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Re: [Talk-us] New MapRoulette now in early public beta

[Steven Johnson]

Martijn & all,
This is just an awesome tool and it keeps getting better. A happy
by-product of this: I'm finding this particular challenge useful in
cleaning up road misalignments left over from the 2008 import of TIGER. So
great to see this re-deployed. Thanks to you and the team.
Cheers,

-- SEJ
-- twitter: @geomantic
-- skype: sejohnson8

A serious and good philosophical work could be written consisting entirely
of jokes. --*Ludwig Wittgenstein*

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Martijn van Exel <m...@rtijn.org> wrote:

> Excellent, Steve. I am so glad you like it!
> As I mentioned in my announcement, the metrics part will still see
> significant expansion, so keep an eye out for new ways to slice and dice
> the data.
> Martijn
>
> > On May 26, 2016, at 10:53 AM, OSM Volunteer stevea <
> stevea...@softworkers.com> wrote:
> >
> > Martijn, the new MapRoulette is FANTASTIC!  I used the old one quite a
> bit, but I was amazed at how “drop dead easy” this new version is.  In
> fact, sort of by stumbling around and trying to figure it out, I did figure
> it out and before you know it (just a couple of minutes, really) I had
> completed several challenges.  Now THAT how good software should work!
> >
> > I especially like the “Metrics” feature, we see how quickly (or perhaps
> how “wrongly” or “more difficultly”) any particular challenge is going.
> Nothing like instant feedback!
> >
> > I might have more to say about this as I continue to play around with
> it, and indeed “play” is how this feels:  bravo!
> >
> > SteveA
> > California
> >
> >
> >> On May 26, 2016, at 5:00 AM, talk-us-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote:
> >>
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Re: [Talk-us] New MapRoulette now in early public beta

[Martijn van Exel]

Excellent, Steve. I am so glad you like it!
As I mentioned in my announcement, the metrics part will still see significant 
expansion, so keep an eye out for new ways to slice and dice the data. 
Martijn

> On May 26, 2016, at 10:53 AM, OSM Volunteer stevea 
> <stevea...@softworkers.com> wrote:
> 
> Martijn, the new MapRoulette is FANTASTIC!  I used the old one quite a bit, 
> but I was amazed at how “drop dead easy” this new version is.  In fact, sort 
> of by stumbling around and trying to figure it out, I did figure it out and 
> before you know it (just a couple of minutes, really) I had completed several 
> challenges.  Now THAT how good software should work!
> 
> I especially like the “Metrics” feature, we see how quickly (or perhaps how 
> “wrongly” or “more difficultly”) any particular challenge is going. Nothing 
> like instant feedback!
> 
> I might have more to say about this as I continue to play around with it, and 
> indeed “play” is how this feels:  bravo!
> 
> SteveA
> California
> 
> 
>> On May 26, 2016, at 5:00 AM, talk-us-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote:
>> 
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Re: [Talk-us] New MapRoulette now in early public beta

[OSM Volunteer stevea]

Martijn, the new MapRoulette is FANTASTIC!  I used the old one quite a bit, but 
I was amazed at how “drop dead easy” this new version is.  In fact, sort of by 
stumbling around and trying to figure it out, I did figure it out and before 
you know it (just a couple of minutes, really) I had completed several 
challenges.  Now THAT how good software should work!

I especially like the “Metrics” feature, we see how quickly (or perhaps how 
“wrongly” or “more difficultly”) any particular challenge is going. Nothing 
like instant feedback!

I might have more to say about this as I continue to play around with it, and 
indeed “play” is how this feels:  bravo!

SteveA
California


> On May 26, 2016, at 5:00 AM, talk-us-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote:
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Re: [Talk-us] New MapRoulette now in early public beta

[Valerie Anderson]

Martijn,

It looks great on Chromium and Firefox/Iceweasel.

Cheers,

Val

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> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Steve Friedl  wrote:
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> > The Irvine GIS guy told me that Paisley Place also servers as a utility
> > easement, which may have impacted some of the design.  These are quite
> > pretty little walkways, with a nice gate to enter, it’s just odd that it’s
> > a street.
> >
> 
> Huh?  The only thing I could see that could be remotely construed as a
> through walkway is the concrete gutter, which would make a natural break at
> the planter that for all practical purposes breaks up the street as a
> traffic calming measure, and appears to have barely slowed down the Google
> car, much less anyone on foot.
> 
> 
> > But regarding the big water catchment surface:
> >
> >
> >
> > Ø  Depending on the cant and the surface, it could actually be some sort
> > of French drain or infiltration pad designed as potentially an emergency
> > helipad.  I, personally, would make no assumption as to what it was without
> > at least cursory knowledge of the region's drainage and/or rescue tropes …
> >
> >
> >
> > I have some of that cursory knowledge, plus I actually hiked up there and
> > checked it out myself – there’s no question that it’s there to collect
> > water, drain it into the two cisterns to the southeast, and there’s a water
> > tap a little farther to the southwest.
> >
> >
> >
> > What you can’t see from the satellite imagery is that it’s at the top of a
> > hill, the only water it can possibly collect is rainwater.  It’s also clear
> > that this isn’t being used any more, but back in the forties I’m certain it
> > was a great place to water your horse.
> >
> >
> >
> > I think it would serve as a fine helipad, though these were constructed
> > before helicopters were in widespread enough use to be considered for
> > that.  I’m going to ask the local fire agency if they have records of using
> > that spot for helo.
> >
> 
> Very interesting edge case; I'd honestly be surprised based on aerial
> imagery if the cisterns aren't still in use as at least an emergency water
> supply, given that particular stretch of hills' propensity for fire.  It
> has a dry climate, some plants that depend on fire for reproduction, and
> eucalyptus, which the AU crowd can testify sets itself on fire for like, no
> reason.
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Re: [Talk-us] New MapRoulette now in early public beta

[Kevin Kenny]

Logging out, flushing cookies, and logging in again brought me to
'Saint Charles Smartt Airfield' and 'False Positive' worked this time.

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[Kevin Kenny]

Should I expect it to be operating? I tried logging in, and the first
purported aerodrome I got was the actual 'Branson West Airport'. It
was well-mapped, so I clicked 'False Positive' and 'Next' - and got
"KO: Invalid task status supplied".



On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:
 MapRoulette has been completely redone, hopefully keeping the good parts and
> improving on some things that were not so great. I’m pretty excited to
> announce that I have a public beta up now at http://maproulette.org:8080. I
> am very much looking forward to your feedback. Old MapRoulette will be
> around for a month or so more, then we will switch over. Some more details
> below. Let me know what you think, or if you want to help out!

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Re: [Talk-us] New MapRoulette now in early public beta

[Rihards]

On 2016.05.25. 22:01, Martijn van Exel wrote:

Hi all,

MapRoulette has been completely redone, hopefully keeping the good parts
and improving on some things that were not so great. I’m pretty excited
to announce that I have a public beta up now at
http://maproulette.org:8080. I am very much looking forward to your
feedback. Old MapRoulette will be around for a month or so more, then we
will switch over. Some more details below. Let me know what you think,
or if you want to help out!


a really minor thing, but you might want to change "why not add hangers" 
to "hangars" ;)



Map on,
Martijn

Some resources
Mailing List:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/maproulette/ (low volume)
Slack: maproulette.slack.com 
Code: https://github.com/maproulette/
API: https://github.com/maproulette/maproulette2/blob/master/docs/api.md

Major changes / improvements are
* Much improved metrics (this part particularly under heavy development
and feedback welcome)
* Challenges now grouped in Projects that can be managed by multiple users
* Project / Challenge administration now fully integrated in the user
interface
* Survey challenges let you ask questions about things with multiple
choice answers
* Tasks can have tags for another layer of organization
* Challenge search and discovery through a one box search (still very
early, more to come here and feedback welcome)
* API is more consistent and more RESTful
* Due to new challenge model, there is no backward compatibility with
the old API
* Switching to API keys, no more tunneling / ease
* Back end now completely written in Scala
* Deployment fully automated through Docker





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[Talk-us] New MapRoulette now in early public beta

[Martijn van Exel]

Hi all, 

MapRoulette has been completely redone, hopefully keeping the good parts and 
improving on some things that were not so great. I’m pretty excited to announce 
that I have a public beta up now at http://maproulette.org:8080 
. I am very much looking forward to your 
feedback. Old MapRoulette will be around for a month or so more, then we will 
switch over. Some more details below. Let me know what you think, or if you 
want to help out!

Map on,
Martijn

Some resources
Mailing List: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/maproulette/ 
 (low volume)
Slack: maproulette.slack.com 
Code: https://github.com/maproulette/ 
API: https://github.com/maproulette/maproulette2/blob/master/docs/api.md 


Major changes / improvements are
* Much improved metrics (this part particularly under heavy development and 
feedback welcome)
* Challenges now grouped in Projects that can be managed by multiple users
* Project / Challenge administration now fully integrated in the user interface
* Survey challenges let you ask questions about things with multiple choice 
answers
* Tasks can have tags for another layer of organization
* Challenge search and discovery through a one box search (still very early, 
more to come here and feedback welcome)
* API is more consistent and more RESTful
* Due to new challenge model, there is no backward compatibility with the old 
API
* Switching to API keys, no more tunneling / ease
* Back end now completely written in Scala
* Deployment fully automated through Docker



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