Re: [Talk-us] OSM map use w/o attribution at US News & World Report
Hmmm. Yesterday I had found proper attribution (via Leaflet) in other non-health areas of their website and was putting together more comprehensive notes for them, but today I see my original health.usnews.com link *does* work (as do links for other doctors), so I assume this was just a website glitch that’s since been fixed. Never mind Steve From: Harald Kliems Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 8:56 AM To: Levente Juhász Cc: Steve Friedl ; OpenStreetMap talk-us list Subject: Re: [Talk-us] OSM map use w/o attribution at US News & World Report Yeah, same for me: https://i.imgur.com/t7VuFDB.png Maybe they fixed it very rapidly? Harald. On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 10:37 AM Levente Juhász mailto:jlevent...@gmail.com> > wrote: Maybe I am missing something here but when I checked the link you provided I can see the proper attribution displayed in the Leaflet map. Screenshot: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EBzE3_0Lc6qVkKeYYhYbpz9CFrWOiGpc/view Cheers, Levente On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 12:51 PM Steve Friedl mailto:st...@unixwiz.net> > wrote: [trying this again] Good morning, I've never done a use-without-attribution case before, would like to get some suggestions before I dive in. I'm pretty sure this is a "substantial" violation. It seems that US News & World Report is using OSM data/maps without attribution in their Health website; my opthalmologist's page https://health.usnews.com/doctors/jared-younger-768369 includes a map that I instantly recognized as OSM. I make it a point to enhance the maps every time I have an appointment somewhere, and I had done substantial cleanup of the maps in the northeast corner of Brookhurst & Ellis in Fountain Valley. The *current* map doesn't look much like the one in the US News page: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/62921271#map=18/33.69463/-117.95174 because of my subsequent changes, but - among other things - the spurious and incorrect segment of "Ellis Street" just below the main Ellis Street was leftover Tiger data that I'd fixed as well on changeset https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/62921271 Digging in, it seems that US News runs their own tile server (example tile): https://maptile.usnews.com/tile0/12/707/1640.png so this is clearly them and not (say) Leaflet. Their terms & conditions page https://www.usnews.com/info/features/terms has a helpful email address copyrightag...@usnews.com <mailto:copyrightag...@usnews.com> that invites contacts about copyright issues. So, I think I should be following the procedure here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution with a polite note to them. Am I on the right track? Steve --- Steve Friedl // Software & Network Security Consultant // 714-345-4571 st...@unixwiz.net <mailto:st...@unixwiz.net> // Southern California USA // I speak for me only ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-us@openstreetmap.org> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- Levente Juhasz https://blog.jlevente.com/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-us@openstreetmap.org> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] OSM map use w/o attribution at US News & World Report
Yeah, same for me: https://i.imgur.com/t7VuFDB.png Maybe they fixed it *very* rapidly? Harald. On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 10:37 AM Levente Juhász wrote: > Maybe I am missing something here but when I checked the link you provided > I can see the proper attribution displayed in the Leaflet map. Screenshot: > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EBzE3_0Lc6qVkKeYYhYbpz9CFrWOiGpc/view > > Cheers, > Levente > > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 12:51 PM Steve Friedl wrote: > >> [trying this again] >> >> Good morning, >> >> I've never done a use-without-attribution case before, would like to get >> some suggestions before I dive in. I'm pretty sure this is a "substantial" >> violation. >> >> It seems that US News & World Report is using OSM data/maps without >> attribution in their Health website; my opthalmologist's page >> >> https://health.usnews.com/doctors/jared-younger-768369 >> >> includes a map that I instantly recognized as OSM. I make it a point to >> enhance the maps every time I have an appointment somewhere, and I had >> done >> substantial cleanup of the maps in the northeast corner of Brookhurst & >> Ellis in Fountain Valley. >> >> The *current* map doesn't look much like the one in the US News page: >> >> >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/62921271#map=18/33.69463/-117.95174 >> >> because of my subsequent changes, but - among other things - the spurious >> and incorrect segment of "Ellis Street" just below the main Ellis Street >> was >> leftover Tiger data that I'd fixed as well on changeset >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/62921271 >> >> Digging in, it seems that US News runs their own tile server (example >> tile): >> >> https://maptile.usnews.com/tile0/12/707/1640.png >> >> so this is clearly them and not (say) Leaflet. >> >> Their terms & conditions page https://www.usnews.com/info/features/terms >> has >> a helpful email address copyrightag...@usnews.com that invites contacts >> about copyright issues. >> >> So, I think I should be following the procedure here: >> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution >> >> with a polite note to them. >> >> Am I on the right track? >> >> Steve >> >> --- >> Steve Friedl // Software & Network Security Consultant // 714-345-4571 >> <(714)%20345-4571> >> st...@unixwiz.net // Southern California USA // I speak for me only >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Talk-us mailing list >> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >> > -- > Levente Juhasz > https://blog.jlevente.com/ > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] OSM map use w/o attribution at US News & World Report
Maybe I am missing something here but when I checked the link you provided I can see the proper attribution displayed in the Leaflet map. Screenshot: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EBzE3_0Lc6qVkKeYYhYbpz9CFrWOiGpc/view Cheers, Levente On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 12:51 PM Steve Friedl wrote: > [trying this again] > > Good morning, > > I've never done a use-without-attribution case before, would like to get > some suggestions before I dive in. I'm pretty sure this is a "substantial" > violation. > > It seems that US News & World Report is using OSM data/maps without > attribution in their Health website; my opthalmologist's page > > https://health.usnews.com/doctors/jared-younger-768369 > > includes a map that I instantly recognized as OSM. I make it a point to > enhance the maps every time I have an appointment somewhere, and I had done > substantial cleanup of the maps in the northeast corner of Brookhurst & > Ellis in Fountain Valley. > > The *current* map doesn't look much like the one in the US News page: > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/62921271#map=18/33.69463/-117.95174 > > because of my subsequent changes, but - among other things - the spurious > and incorrect segment of "Ellis Street" just below the main Ellis Street > was > leftover Tiger data that I'd fixed as well on changeset > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/62921271 > > Digging in, it seems that US News runs their own tile server (example > tile): > > https://maptile.usnews.com/tile0/12/707/1640.png > > so this is clearly them and not (say) Leaflet. > > Their terms & conditions page https://www.usnews.com/info/features/terms > has > a helpful email address copyrightag...@usnews.com that invites contacts > about copyright issues. > > So, I think I should be following the procedure here: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution > > with a polite note to them. > > Am I on the right track? > > Steve > > --- > Steve Friedl // Software & Network Security Consultant // 714-345-4571 > <(714)%20345-4571> > st...@unixwiz.net // Southern California USA // I speak for me only > > > > > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > -- Levente Juhasz https://blog.jlevente.com/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] OSM map use w/o attribution at US News & World Report
On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 11:51 AM Steve Friedl wrote: > So, I think I should be following the procedure here: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution > > with a polite note to them. > > Am I on the right track? > Yep! Feel free to shoot them a polite email asking to provide the required attribution (and thanking them for using OSM). ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] OSM map use w/o attribution at US News & World Report
[trying this again] Good morning, I've never done a use-without-attribution case before, would like to get some suggestions before I dive in. I'm pretty sure this is a "substantial" violation. It seems that US News & World Report is using OSM data/maps without attribution in their Health website; my opthalmologist's page https://health.usnews.com/doctors/jared-younger-768369 includes a map that I instantly recognized as OSM. I make it a point to enhance the maps every time I have an appointment somewhere, and I had done substantial cleanup of the maps in the northeast corner of Brookhurst & Ellis in Fountain Valley. The *current* map doesn't look much like the one in the US News page: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/62921271#map=18/33.69463/-117.95174 because of my subsequent changes, but - among other things - the spurious and incorrect segment of "Ellis Street" just below the main Ellis Street was leftover Tiger data that I'd fixed as well on changeset https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/62921271 Digging in, it seems that US News runs their own tile server (example tile): https://maptile.usnews.com/tile0/12/707/1640.png so this is clearly them and not (say) Leaflet. Their terms & conditions page https://www.usnews.com/info/features/terms has a helpful email address copyrightag...@usnews.com that invites contacts about copyright issues. So, I think I should be following the procedure here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution with a polite note to them. Am I on the right track? Steve --- Steve Friedl // Software & Network Security Consultant // 714-345-4571 st...@unixwiz.net // Southern California USA // I speak for me only ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
