Re: [Talk-us] Reaching out to Local User Groups
It's nice, though I question it's accuracy: I'm not listed there. At all. Anywhere. And I *should* be in the gold category on that at this point. Weird. On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Peter Dobratz pe...@dobratz.us wrote: On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: I wish there was a way to see locations of mappers beyond the first N closest and perhaps a way to filter by date of last activity. Have you seen this map? http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/oooc?zoom=9lat=36.11773lon=-95.87058layers=B00TFFT ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Reaching out to Local User Groups
I think a lot has to do with where it thinks you're located. On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: It's nice, though I question it's accuracy: I'm not listed there. At all. Anywhere. And I *should* be in the gold category on that at this point. Weird. On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Peter Dobratz pe...@dobratz.us wrote: On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: I wish there was a way to see locations of mappers beyond the first N closest and perhaps a way to filter by date of last activity. Have you seen this map? http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/oooc?zoom=9lat=36.11773lon=-95.87058layers=B00TFFT ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Reaching out to Local User Groups
I zoomed out and couldn't find myself anywhere on the continent. I have enough changesets it shouldn't have been a problem finding me. On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: I think a lot has to do with where it thinks you're located. On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: It's nice, though I question it's accuracy: I'm not listed there. At all. Anywhere. And I *should* be in the gold category on that at this point. Weird. On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Peter Dobratz pe...@dobratz.us wrote: On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.orgwrote: I wish there was a way to see locations of mappers beyond the first N closest and perhaps a way to filter by date of last activity. Have you seen this map? http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/oooc?zoom=9lat=36.11773lon=-95.87058layers=B00TFFT ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Reaching out to Local User Groups
Seems like that's a good start for guessing where people who don't have a defined location in their user profile is, but not so much for people who do. On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Jason Remillard remillard.ja...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Paul, The problem is that you map all over the place. Your center is probably some place where you actually don't map... http://www.yosmhm.neis-one.org/?Metanautics%20fixes# Thanks Jason. On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: I zoomed out and couldn't find myself anywhere on the continent. I have enough changesets it shouldn't have been a problem finding me. On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: I think a lot has to do with where it thinks you're located. On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: It's nice, though I question it's accuracy: I'm not listed there. At all. Anywhere. And I should be in the gold category on that at this point. Weird. On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Peter Dobratz pe...@dobratz.us wrote: On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: I wish there was a way to see locations of mappers beyond the first N closest and perhaps a way to filter by date of last activity. Have you seen this map? http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/oooc?zoom=9lat=36.11773lon=-95.87058layers=B00TFFT ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Reaching out to Local User Groups
I heard from a few of you, so thanks a ton! I just realized this will be a lot easier if I give you the local groups I already have on my list. If you organize *or are a member of* (or just know of) a local user group from somewhere other than the areas listed below, please let me know ASAP! New York Chicago Washington, DC Boston San Francisco (I'm combining this with Sunnyvale, but let me know if that's incorrect and they are really two separate entities) Seattle St Louis Tampa Portland Cleveland Salt Lake City On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: Calling all OSM Local User Group organizers-- Over the last several weeks I have reached out to many of you, but I am certain that I missed a few. I am working on wrapping my initial findings on the local OSM communities in the US, but I want to ensure that you're all represented. If we have NOT directly connected about your local OSM group, please shoot me a quick note to let me know that and I'll have some follow up questions for you after that. Nothing taxing or time-consuming, I swear! Thanks! Kathleen ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Reaching out to Local User Groups
Hi Kathleen, I think Randy Hale runs an OSM user group in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Might want to add that into the mix. Rick Marshall -- Rick Marshall, PhD, GISP President Vertical GeoSolutions, Inc (VerticalGeo) 130 Sawgrass Ln O'Fallon, IL 62269 (618) 670-4259 rick.marsh...@verticalgeo.com http://www.verticalgeo.com http://www.culturescapes.net Vertically Thinking Blog: http://verticalgeo.wordpress.com On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: I heard from a few of you, so thanks a ton! I just realized this will be a lot easier if I give you the local groups I already have on my list. If you organize *or are a member of* (or just know of) a local user group from somewhere other than the areas listed below, please let me know ASAP! New York Chicago Washington, DC Boston San Francisco (I'm combining this with Sunnyvale, but let me know if that's incorrect and they are really two separate entities) Seattle St Louis Tampa Portland Cleveland Salt Lake City On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: Calling all OSM Local User Group organizers-- Over the last several weeks I have reached out to many of you, but I am certain that I missed a few. I am working on wrapping my initial findings on the local OSM communities in the US, but I want to ensure that you're all represented. If we have NOT directly connected about your local OSM group, please shoot me a quick note to let me know that and I'll have some follow up questions for you after that. Nothing taxing or time-consuming, I swear! Thanks! Kathleen ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Reaching out to Local User Groups
I would like to organize one in Tulsa. On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: I heard from a few of you, so thanks a ton! I just realized this will be a lot easier if I give you the local groups I already have on my list. If you organize *or are a member of* (or just know of) a local user group from somewhere other than the areas listed below, please let me know ASAP! New York Chicago Washington, DC Boston San Francisco (I'm combining this with Sunnyvale, but let me know if that's incorrect and they are really two separate entities) Seattle St Louis Tampa Portland Cleveland Salt Lake City On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: Calling all OSM Local User Group organizers-- Over the last several weeks I have reached out to many of you, but I am certain that I missed a few. I am working on wrapping my initial findings on the local OSM communities in the US, but I want to ensure that you're all represented. If we have NOT directly connected about your local OSM group, please shoot me a quick note to let me know that and I'll have some follow up questions for you after that. Nothing taxing or time-consuming, I swear! Thanks! Kathleen ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Reaching out to Local User Groups
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: I would like to organize one in Tulsa. Do not, or do. There is no 'like'. - channelling Map Yoda. :-) They're fun. Pick a format that works for you and do it. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Reaching out to Local User Groups
Stupid suggestion - plot these on a map. Would be interesting to see which high-populaion areas *don't* have a meet up and then see if we can organize something remotely and then some of us fly in for a weekend, if inclined, to kick things off. Costs would be $200 for SWA flights plus $200 for hotels or something. I suspect we could find that kind of money somewhere to sponsor someone to do this. Steve On Feb 6, 2013, at 6:13 AM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: I heard from a few of you, so thanks a ton! I just realized this will be a lot easier if I give you the local groups I already have on my list. If you organize *or are a member of* (or just know of) a local user group from somewhere other than the areas listed below, please let me know ASAP! New York Chicago Washington, DC Boston San Francisco (I'm combining this with Sunnyvale, but let me know if that's incorrect and they are really two separate entities) Seattle St Louis Tampa Portland Cleveland Salt Lake City On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: Calling all OSM Local User Group organizers-- Over the last several weeks I have reached out to many of you, but I am certain that I missed a few. I am working on wrapping my initial findings on the local OSM communities in the US, but I want to ensure that you're all represented. If we have NOT directly connected about your local OSM group, please shoot me a quick note to let me know that and I'll have some follow up questions for you after that. Nothing taxing or time-consuming, I swear! Thanks! Kathleen ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Reaching out to Local User Groups
Re: Map -- All in good time. (Gotta write up my blog post first...) Re: Remote meetup deployment: I love that idea and think it would be an awesome goal 6 months from now. I'd love to have built up a local OSM user group organizer toolkit by then, so that we can give them some tried and tested resources to keep things going. Re: Sponsors-- might be something that corporate OSM users would like to sponsor... On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: Stupid suggestion - plot these on a map. Would be interesting to see which high-populaion areas *don't* have a meet up and then see if we can organize something remotely and then some of us fly in for a weekend, if inclined, to kick things off. Costs would be $200 for SWA flights plus $200 for hotels or something. I suspect we could find that kind of money somewhere to sponsor someone to do this. Steve On Feb 6, 2013, at 6:13 AM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: I heard from a few of you, so thanks a ton! I just realized this will be a lot easier if I give you the local groups I already have on my list. If you organize *or are a member of* (or just know of) a local user group from somewhere other than the areas listed below, please let me know ASAP! New York Chicago Washington, DC Boston San Francisco (I'm combining this with Sunnyvale, but let me know if that's incorrect and they are really two separate entities) Seattle St Louis Tampa Portland Cleveland Salt Lake City On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: Calling all OSM Local User Group organizers-- Over the last several weeks I have reached out to many of you, but I am certain that I missed a few. I am working on wrapping my initial findings on the local OSM communities in the US, but I want to ensure that you're all represented. If we have NOT directly connected about your local OSM group, please shoot me a quick note to let me know that and I'll have some follow up questions for you after that. Nothing taxing or time-consuming, I swear! Thanks! Kathleen ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Reaching out to Local User Groups
We already did/do that : 1. Sunnyvale and SF Edit-a-thons used a Google Hangout so that I could give a remote bootstrap to SF as they did not have a local leader. Seemed to work 2. BiWeekly Mappy Hours are held, also via Hangout and are well attended and also seem to work Google hangout is challenged wrt to scalability; it'd be good to have more video participants. Local F2F is surely better; but remotes can be effective to spinup remote/detached folks who then act as seeds/centers around which locals can form. Let's stay open to all the possibilities. A little encouragement and interaction seems to go a long way, even if beers are NOT involved ;-) On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: Re: Map -- All in good time. (Gotta write up my blog post first...) Re: Remote meetup deployment: I love that idea and think it would be an awesome goal 6 months from now. I'd love to have built up a local OSM user group organizer toolkit by then, so that we can give them some tried and tested resources to keep things going. Re: Sponsors-- might be something that corporate OSM users would like to sponsor... On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: Stupid suggestion - plot these on a map. Would be interesting to see which high-populaion areas *don't* have a meet up and then see if we can organize something remotely and then some of us fly in for a weekend, if inclined, to kick things off. Costs would be $200 for SWA flights plus $200 for hotels or something. I suspect we could find that kind of money somewhere to sponsor someone to do this. Steve On Feb 6, 2013, at 6:13 AM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: I heard from a few of you, so thanks a ton! I just realized this will be a lot easier if I give you the local groups I already have on my list. If you organize *or are a member of* (or just know of) a local user group from somewhere other than the areas listed below, please let me know ASAP! New York Chicago Washington, DC Boston San Francisco (I'm combining this with Sunnyvale, but let me know if that's incorrect and they are really two separate entities) Seattle St Louis Tampa Portland Cleveland Salt Lake City On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: Calling all OSM Local User Group organizers-- Over the last several weeks I have reached out to many of you, but I am certain that I missed a few. I am working on wrapping my initial findings on the local OSM communities in the US, but I want to ensure that you're all represented. If we have NOT directly connected about your local OSM group, please shoot me a quick note to let me know that and I'll have some follow up questions for you after that. Nothing taxing or time-consuming, I swear! Thanks! Kathleen ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- John Novak 585-OLD-TOPOS (585-653-8676) http://www.linkedin.com/in/johnanovak/ OSM ID:oldtopos OSM Heat Map: http://yosmhm.neis-one.org/?oldtopos OSM Edit Stats:http://hdyc.neis-one.org/?oldtopos ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Reaching out to Local User Groups
Great, good to hear. I'm worried I said something the wrong way that made you guys feel defensive. Wasn't my intention if so. This is your baby, I just ran the first mapping party and we ran tons of them at CloudMade so I have opinions but I'm not trying to tell you what to do. Steve On Feb 6, 2013, at 11:37 AM, the Old Topo Depot oldto...@novacell.com wrote: We already did/do that : 1. Sunnyvale and SF Edit-a-thons used a Google Hangout so that I could give a remote bootstrap to SF as they did not have a local leader. Seemed to work 2. BiWeekly Mappy Hours are held, also via Hangout and are well attended and also seem to work Google hangout is challenged wrt to scalability; it'd be good to have more video participants. Local F2F is surely better; but remotes can be effective to spinup remote/detached folks who then act as seeds/centers around which locals can form. Let's stay open to all the possibilities. A little encouragement and interaction seems to go a long way, even if beers are NOT involved ;-) On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: Re: Map -- All in good time. (Gotta write up my blog post first...) Re: Remote meetup deployment: I love that idea and think it would be an awesome goal 6 months from now. I'd love to have built up a local OSM user group organizer toolkit by then, so that we can give them some tried and tested resources to keep things going. Re: Sponsors-- might be something that corporate OSM users would like to sponsor... On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: Stupid suggestion - plot these on a map. Would be interesting to see which high-populaion areas *don't* have a meet up and then see if we can organize something remotely and then some of us fly in for a weekend, if inclined, to kick things off. Costs would be $200 for SWA flights plus $200 for hotels or something. I suspect we could find that kind of money somewhere to sponsor someone to do this. Steve On Feb 6, 2013, at 6:13 AM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: I heard from a few of you, so thanks a ton! I just realized this will be a lot easier if I give you the local groups I already have on my list. If you organize *or are a member of* (or just know of) a local user group from somewhere other than the areas listed below, please let me know ASAP! New York Chicago Washington, DC Boston San Francisco (I'm combining this with Sunnyvale, but let me know if that's incorrect and they are really two separate entities) Seattle St Louis Tampa Portland Cleveland Salt Lake City On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: Calling all OSM Local User Group organizers-- Over the last several weeks I have reached out to many of you, but I am certain that I missed a few. I am working on wrapping my initial findings on the local OSM communities in the US, but I want to ensure that you're all represented. If we have NOT directly connected about your local OSM group, please shoot me a quick note to let me know that and I'll have some follow up questions for you after that. Nothing taxing or time-consuming, I swear! Thanks! Kathleen ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- John Novak 585-OLD-TOPOS (585-653-8676) http://www.linkedin.com/in/johnanovak/ OSM ID:oldtopos OSM Heat Map: http://yosmhm.neis-one.org/?oldtopos OSM Edit Stats:http://hdyc.neis-one.org/?oldtopos ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Reaching out to Local User Groups
On Feb 6, 2013 10:30 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: I would like to organize one in Tulsa. What's stopping you? Pretty sure I would be alone on that given I haven't received responses from any of the locally registered mappers. I wish there was a way to see locations of mappers beyond the first N closest and perhaps a way to filter by date of last activity. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Reaching out to Local User Groups
Hi Paul I was basically alone starting the Seattle group for many months. We had a lot of churn (one person come one month, then a different person the next…) It takes a long time, but it is worth it. Also, I wouldn't bother reaching out to existing mappers as we never found that working well vs. spending the same time finding new people/groups. One more thing - if you set up a meetup.com group you automatically will start to see curious people join up. Steve On Feb 6, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Feb 6, 2013 10:30 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: I would like to organize one in Tulsa. What's stopping you? Pretty sure I would be alone on that given I haven't received responses from any of the locally registered mappers. I wish there was a way to see locations of mappers beyond the first N closest and perhaps a way to filter by date of last activity. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Reaching out to Local User Groups
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: I wish there was a way to see locations of mappers beyond the first N closest and perhaps a way to filter by date of last activity. Have you seen this map? http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/oooc?zoom=9lat=36.11773lon=-95.87058layers=B00TFFT ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Reaching out to Local User Groups
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: Re: Map -- All in good time. (Gotta write up my blog post first...) http://usergroups.openstreetmap.de/?zoom=3lat=35.96022lon=-80.33203layers=B0TFT Re: Remote meetup deployment: I love that idea and think it would be an awesome goal 6 months from now. I'd love to have built up a local OSM user group organizer toolkit by then, so that we can give them some tried and tested resources to keep things going. hrm. imho, having outsiders parachute in to (kick-)start a local group discourages local leadership. The locals end up thinking, hey, they'll come back and we can do it again some time. No need for us to organize anything, or something. That's not our goal. :( ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Reaching out to Local User Groups
On Feb 6, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: hrm. imho, having outsiders parachute in to (kick-)start a local group discourages local leadership. The locals end up thinking, hey, they'll come back and we can do it again some time. No need for us to organize anything, or something. That's not our goal. :( Right, but we also know what happens when we try nothing: nothing happens. What we *really* want is data, rather than our opinions, on what works. But, that is hard and expensive to obtain :-) Steve ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Reaching out to Local User Groups
Excellent point-- what I had in mind was something along the lines of what the Boston Python Workshop http://bostonpythonworkshop.com/about/ has done-- they provide intro to Python workshops that encourage diversity within the local python communities. They have had a lot of success packaging their organizer toolkit, but they also have grants from the Python Foundation to send trainers to the events. Obviously there are some structural differences (looking to kick start communities, rather than diversify existing ones, etc) but I think it's worth exploring. I think this is something we can try on a small scale first (a few of us from DC could head to Baltimore for a Saturday kickoff), and there is lots more discussion to be had, but like I said-- I'd put this as a goal 6 months down the road, at least. Plenty of time to determine whether or not it could be useful. On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: On Feb 6, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: hrm. imho, having outsiders parachute in to (kick-)start a local group discourages local leadership. The locals end up thinking, hey, they'll come back and we can do it again some time. No need for us to organize anything, or something. That's not our goal. :( Right, but we also know what happens when we try nothing: nothing happens. What we *really* want is data, rather than our opinions, on what works. But, that is hard and expensive to obtain :-) Steve ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Reaching out to Local User Groups
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: Hi Paul I was basically alone starting the Seattle group for many months. We had a lot of churn (one person come one month, then a different person the next…) Exactly. MappingDC, when we started it, was four people, and now it's probably the most active local OSM community in the US. In New York, I had to start again. If you post on Meetup.com and do nothing else, you'll find people who are curious. A lot of people will show up for one meeting and you'll never see them again. But over time (and it can be a long time) you'll find people who have the same interest and will become your regulars. If you have special events, or work with other local communities (cycling communities in particular), you'll find interested parties. Mapping parties get a lot of attention, but the truth is that the best thing you can do is to be consistent, and to get your event listed in the right places. - Serge ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Reaching out to Local User Groups
Calling all OSM Local User Group organizers-- Over the last several weeks I have reached out to many of you, but I am certain that I missed a few. I am working on wrapping my initial findings on the local OSM communities in the US, but I want to ensure that you're all represented. If we have NOT directly connected about your local OSM group, please shoot me a quick note to let me know that and I'll have some follow up questions for you after that. Nothing taxing or time-consuming, I swear! Thanks! Kathleen ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
