Re: [Talk-us] USFS trail/road/route numbers

2020-01-08 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:15 PM Tod Fitch  wrote:

> In my area there seems to be a mix of how the US Forest Service route
> numbers are tagged on roads and trails. The main variations seem to be:
>
> name=“Forest Route 9N24”
> name=“FR 9N24”
> alt_name=“Forest Route 9N24”
> alt_name=“FR 9N24”
> ref=“FR 9N24”
> ref=“9N24”
>

Well, name should only be the name.  So the first four are wrong, refs are
not names.


> Things I’ve seen in the wiki that might pertain cover “National Forest
> Trails” [1] which seems to want a tag of “route_no” or “trail_no”. That
> just seems wrong.
>
> And in the United States roads tagging [2] which seems to prefer tagging
> like:
>
> ref=“NFR 9N24”
>
> Which I don’t recall seeing in my area.
>
> What should the preferred tagging be? My inclination would be to migrate
> the tagging in my area toward that listed on the US road tagging page (e.g.
> ref=“NFR 9N24”) even though my preference (for printed map display
> purposes) would be to simply use ref=“9N24”.
>

I'd go with ref=NF 9N24 and strongly consider making a route relation for
it.  Ideally, this would all be moot and it'd just be a refless, nameless
way with the route being on the relation alone (same could be said of
roads) but for some reason people don't want to kill the dinosaur on that
still.
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[Talk-us] USFS trail/road/route numbers

2020-01-07 Thread Tod Fitch
In my area there seems to be a mix of how the US Forest Service route numbers 
are tagged on roads and trails. The main variations seem to be:

name=“Forest Route 9N24”
name=“FR 9N24”
alt_name=“Forest Route 9N24”
alt_name=“FR 9N24”
ref=“FR 9N24”
ref=“9N24”

Things I’ve seen in the wiki that might pertain cover “National Forest Trails” 
[1] which seems to want a tag of “route_no” or “trail_no”. That just seems 
wrong.

And in the United States roads tagging [2] which seems to prefer tagging like:

ref=“NFR 9N24”

Which I don’t recall seeing in my area.

What should the preferred tagging be? My inclination would be to migrate the 
tagging in my area toward that listed on the US road tagging page (e.g. 
ref=“NFR 9N24”) even though my preference (for printed map display purposes) 
would be to simply use ref=“9N24”.

Opinions?

Thanks!
Tod

[1] 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/US_Forest_Service_Data#National_Forest_Trails
[2] 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_roads_tagging#National_forest_primary_routes


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