Re: [Talk-us] note to armchair mappers about NYS routes & ref tags
On 12/7/17 6:42 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > Follow up - i received no reply from the mapper in question (message > sent on 29 November), so i sent him a followup indicating i was starting > to make the changes and have started working on it. i will fix the two that > i'm aware of manually and then set up an overpass query and ponder > the right way to fix the rest. if it becomes a bulk edit, i will consult > with > the necessary folks as required. the results of the overpass query may be observed here: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/tEA this is a small enough set that i'll just do it by hand over the next month or so. 961F, 962J, 990L and 990V are legitimately in the ref tags, so i'll take care to leave those alone. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS & IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] note to armchair mappers about NYS routes & ref tags
Follow up - i received no reply from the mapper in question (message sent on 29 November), so i sent him a followup indicating i was starting to make the changes and have started working on it. i will fix the two that i'm aware of manually and then set up an overpass query and ponder the right way to fix the rest. if it becomes a bulk edit, i will consult with the necessary folks as required. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS & IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] note to armchair mappers about NYS routes & ref tags
On 11/29/17 10:36 PM, Evin Fairchild wrote: > These unsigned reference route numbers probably should use the > unsigned_ref=* tag. Seems like the best compromise. that's what i intend to do if i need to go in and clean this up. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS & IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] note to armchair mappers about NYS routes & ref tags
These unsigned reference route numbers probably should use the unsigned_ref=* tag. Seems like the best compromise. -Evin (compdude) On Nov 29, 2017 6:24 PM, "Richard Welty" wrote: > i have spotted what appears to be an armchair mapper making an > inappropriate > set of edits to some NYS routes this past summer; i have sent the mapper > a note > through the OSM message system but thought this could use a broader > audience, > so that certain inappropriate ref tag settings _don't_ get made. > > NY state has a not-quite-secret route numbering system called reference > routes. > these routes have numbers in the 900 range, and have a single character > suffix. > Examples are 910F, 914V and so forth and so on. > > these route numbers never, with 4 well documented exceptions, _never_ > appear on > conventional highway signage (the exceptions are 961F, 962J, 990L and > 990V). > > an example of incorrectly setting a ref tag to 910F is here: > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/68519517 > > there are no black-and-white NYS route signs carrying the number 910F, so > convention dictates that if these designations are to be tagged at all, it > should be in unsigned_ref or other similar tag. > > i haven't heard back from the mapper who added these yet, but am giving it > a little more time before i go and fix this up myself. > > so anyway, it's fun to learn about things like this numbering system, but > please don't screw up the map by putting these numbers in the ref tags. > they don't belong there. > > for anyone who cares, the entire list of these numbers appears here: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_reference_routes_in_New_York > > richard > > -- > rwe...@averillpark.net > Averill Park Networking - GIS & IT Consulting > OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux > Java - Web Applications - Search > > > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] note to armchair mappers about NYS routes & ref tags
i have spotted what appears to be an armchair mapper making an inappropriate set of edits to some NYS routes this past summer; i have sent the mapper a note through the OSM message system but thought this could use a broader audience, so that certain inappropriate ref tag settings _don't_ get made. NY state has a not-quite-secret route numbering system called reference routes. these routes have numbers in the 900 range, and have a single character suffix. Examples are 910F, 914V and so forth and so on. these route numbers never, with 4 well documented exceptions, _never_ appear on conventional highway signage (the exceptions are 961F, 962J, 990L and 990V). an example of incorrectly setting a ref tag to 910F is here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/68519517 there are no black-and-white NYS route signs carrying the number 910F, so convention dictates that if these designations are to be tagged at all, it should be in unsigned_ref or other similar tag. i haven't heard back from the mapper who added these yet, but am giving it a little more time before i go and fix this up myself. so anyway, it's fun to learn about things like this numbering system, but please don't screw up the map by putting these numbers in the ref tags. they don't belong there. for anyone who cares, the entire list of these numbers appears here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_reference_routes_in_New_York richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS & IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
