Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Highly suspicious edit

2014-05-17 Thread Paul Norman
 From: Paul Johnson [mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org] 
 Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2014 12:02 AM
 To: t...@openstreetmap.org; OpenStreetMap talk-us list
 Subject: [OSM-talk] Highly suspicious edit

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/22382959

 osmbot on #osm-us brought this up; I seriously doubt there's 
 a legitimate reason behind creating an alt explicitly created 
 for vandalism.

Reverted and http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/468

Paul Norman
For the Data Working Group


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Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Highly suspicious edit

2014-05-17 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Sat, May 17, 2014, at 03:44 AM, Paul Norman wrote:
  From: Paul Johnson [mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org] 
  Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2014 12:02 AM
  To: t...@openstreetmap.org; OpenStreetMap talk-us list
  Subject: [OSM-talk] Highly suspicious edit
 
  http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/22382959
 
  osmbot on #osm-us brought this up; I seriously doubt there's 
  a legitimate reason behind creating an alt explicitly created 
  for vandalism.
 
 Reverted and http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/468

It's obvious to me the entire login was created just for anonymous
vandalism; why not just block it permanently with a note inviting the
user to contact you under his/her *real* login?

I see no good reason to have a username Delete Mine And I Delete
Yours. I think it goes against the spirit of OSM as being overly
confrontational on its face.

-- 
  Shawn K. Quinn
  skqu...@rushpost.com


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Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Highly suspicious edit

2014-05-17 Thread Richard Weait
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 5:59 AM, Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.com wrote:

 I see no good reason to have a username Delete Mine And I Delete
 Yours. I think it goes against the spirit of OSM as being overly
 confrontational on its face.

Ah, but one might say the same about posting such a suspicious account
to a list, rather than approaching the mapper directly and privately.
And one might also say that same about calling for an instant life
time ban without a hearing or appeal.  Both of those appear to be
confrontational and perhaps emotional snap decisions.

We can give this a bit of time for everybody involved to chill out a bit.

and a reminder from an earlier post, When you find a suspicious edit,
try to be part of the solution,
rather than merely a reporting system.  :-)

You'll find the full text in the archives.
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2013-November/012171.html

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Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Highly suspicious edit

2014-05-17 Thread Serge Wroclawski
The DWG moderators can only block accounts on a temporary basis.

DWG moderators can't make permanent blocks, or delete spam diary
entries, or spam profiles (at least not at this time).

The OSMF has only banned a single user AFAIK; Doing that requires
intervention from the OSMF board.

IME spammers and vandals go away on their own.

- Serge

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