Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[Ian Dees]

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Sarah Manley wrote:

> There are plenty of wiki hosting companies out there that provide wiki
> hosting for free (mostly with ads) or for a fee (maybe covered by OSM - US
> foundation?), that include tools such as WYSIWYG editor, calendars,
> templates, unique domain and social tools like friending etc. Mediawiki also
> has some options for the WYSIWYG:
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WYSIWYG_editor Pages that shouldn't be
> editable could be protected.
> Might be good to investigate some of those options.
>

OSM-US has hosting donated to it for the next year, so I'm thinking we
should use the global wiki for wiki-like things and take advantage of our
hosting for non-wiki like things (meetups, calendaring, etc.).
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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[Sarah Manley]

Would it be best to collect these ideas on a wiki page? I started this:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/US_website_ideas (feel free to redirect
to a better name)

I do feel like it might be best for the whole community if we try to re-vamp
the current global wiki rather than create our own, but that might be a much
bigger/slower process. Maybe this is already happening ? ( I know this
exists: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Cleanup)

There are plenty of wiki hosting companies out there that provide wiki
hosting for free (mostly with ads) or for a fee (maybe covered by OSM - US
foundation?), that include tools such as WYSIWYG editor, calendars,
templates, unique domain and social tools like friending etc. Mediawiki also
has some options for the WYSIWYG:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WYSIWYG_editor Pages that shouldn't be
editable could be protected.
Might be good to investigate some of those options.
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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[Steven Johnson]

I like the way Jim has broken out the components of US OSM pages. Some of
these are probably better as wiki pages, others as more static pages. But
having it in 'bite sized chunks' makes it easier to divide the work and
manage the tasks.

SEJ

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On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 17:43, Jim McAndrew  wrote:

>
> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Ian Dees  wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Jim McAndrew  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> What are the goals for the openstreetmap.us web page?
>>>
>>>
>> That's a good question that we should probably all discuss.
>>
>> My opinion is that it should be a one-stop-shop for growing the US OSM
>> community. Not entirely sure what that entails, but I imagine it starts
>> with:
>> - a calendar
>> - pages for specific communities both new and established (the DC and Bay
>> Area folks come to mind)
>> - resources for getting involved (for someone that maybe doesn't want to
>> commit to a mapping party yet but still wants to be involved?)
>> - ...I ran out of ideas
>>
>> Any others?
>>
> I like the ideas that Richard Weait has of integrating it with more social
> networking tools.  I'm not entirely sure how that would be done without
> being too obtrusive.
>
> People coming to the openstreetmap.us website are going to be interested
> in:
>
>- Events
>   - Mapping parties
>   - Meetups
>   - Talks
>- How people can help
>   - Holding Mapping Parties
>   - Doing Personal Mapping
>   - Ideas
>- Funding OpenStreetMap.us
>   - at least it should be easy for them to do so
>- Learning more about the organization
>- How to get a hold of people
>- Equipment needed to map
>   - walking papers
>   - GPSes
>
> There's really a lot that can go into it.  The wiki format would make it
> easy for the community to add these things as people wish to see them, but
> isn't as attractive to people that aren't used to technical webpages.
>
> -
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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[Ian Dees]

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Ian Dees  wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Jim McAndrew  wrote:
>
>>
>> What are the goals for the openstreetmap.us web page?
>>
>>
> That's a good question that we should probably all discuss.
>
> My opinion is that it should be a one-stop-shop for growing the US OSM
> community. Not entirely sure what that entails, but I imagine it starts
> with:
> - a calendar
> - pages for specific communities both new and established (the DC and Bay
> Area folks come to mind)
> - resources for getting involved (for someone that maybe doesn't want to
> commit to a mapping party yet but still wants to be involved?)
> - ...I ran out of ideas
>
> Any others?
>

Does anyone object to me setting up a copy of the openstreetmap.de site for
openstreetmap.us? They have an excellent framework for the information and
would be a good starting point.

On the other hand, there is absolutely no hurry and we can continue
discussing it if there are objections.
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[Bill Ricker]

> Some of the Meetup groups I organize have switched over to Facebook because
> a majority of the mappers are already using the service, its super easy to
> do and free


Coming from a computer security & privacy background as I do, Facebook is
even more off-putting to me than Meetup. Their open-sourcing their base code
is nice, but ... their "privacy" policy and App security almost justifies
Apple's closed garden model.

-- 
Bill
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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[Thea Clay]

I agree with Steve and Kate. I think the making of openstreetmap.us should be 
lead by the community, not the board. I'm happy to help. But Steve is right 
that anyone should be able to JFDI since it's a tool for the community not the 
board :)
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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[Jim McAndrew]

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Ian Dees  wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Jim McAndrew  wrote:
>
>>
>> What are the goals for the openstreetmap.us web page?
>>
>>
> That's a good question that we should probably all discuss.
>
> My opinion is that it should be a one-stop-shop for growing the US OSM
> community. Not entirely sure what that entails, but I imagine it starts
> with:
> - a calendar
> - pages for specific communities both new and established (the DC and Bay
> Area folks come to mind)
> - resources for getting involved (for someone that maybe doesn't want to
> commit to a mapping party yet but still wants to be involved?)
> - ...I ran out of ideas
>
> Any others?
>
I like the ideas that Richard Weait has of integrating it with more social
networking tools.  I'm not entirely sure how that would be done without
being too obtrusive.

People coming to the openstreetmap.us website are going to be interested in:

   - Events
  - Mapping parties
  - Meetups
  - Talks
   - How people can help
  - Holding Mapping Parties
  - Doing Personal Mapping
  - Ideas
   - Funding OpenStreetMap.us
  - at least it should be easy for them to do so
   - Learning more about the organization
   - How to get a hold of people
   - Equipment needed to map
  - walking papers
  - GPSes

There's really a lot that can go into it.  The wiki format would make it
easy for the community to add these things as people wish to see them, but
isn't as attractive to people that aren't used to technical webpages.

-
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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[Ian Dees]

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Jim McAndrew  wrote:

>
> What are the goals for the openstreetmap.us web page?
>
>
That's a good question that we should probably all discuss.

My opinion is that it should be a one-stop-shop for growing the US OSM
community. Not entirely sure what that entails, but I imagine it starts
with:
- a calendar
- pages for specific communities both new and established (the DC and Bay
Area folks come to mind)
- resources for getting involved (for someone that maybe doesn't want to
commit to a mapping party yet but still wants to be involved?)
- ...I ran out of ideas

Any others?
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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[Richard Weait]

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Jim McAndrew  wrote:
> It definitely needs a community interface.
> And it needs resources to make it extremely simple for someone to set up
> their own mapping parties.
>
> I'm sure I missed some discussions on this, but is there a reason to have
> a separate wiki than the osm.org wiki?
> wiki.osm.org already has a community, already had log ins, and already has
> blogs.

Upcoming, facebook, meetup, etc. are interesting for reaching new
mappers.  OSM reaches existing mappers.  It's nice to be able to reach
both new and existing enthusiasts.

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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[Jim McAndrew]

It definitely needs a community interface.
And it needs resources to make it extremely simple for someone to set up
their own mapping parties.

I'm sure I missed some discussions on this, but is there a reason to have
a separate wiki than the osm.org wiki?
wiki.osm.org already has a community, already had log ins, and already has
blogs.

What are the goals for the openstreetmap.us web page?

--
Jim McAndrew

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Ian Dees  wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Kate Chapman  wrote:
>
>> Agreed, I see the reason for incorporating as a means to help people
>> do some specific things.  It is not a means to do all things.  If
>> anyone else wants to grow the community, make sweet new tools, etc
>> please do! I'd hope you weren't waiting around for approval or
>> anything like that.
>>
>> If there is something that you want to do that having a formal
>> organization can help with let us know.
>
>
> Ok, does anyone have a preference on the way we present the
> openstreetmap.us page? The engineer in me says to install a wiki, but the
> community organizer in me (probably about the size of the tip of my
> thumbnail) says it should be something a little more immediately accessible
> for someone brand new to OSM and participating in this sort of project.
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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[Richard Welty]

On 4/30/10 5:04 PM, Ian Dees wrote:
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Kate Chapman > wrote:


Agreed, I see the reason for incorporating as a means to help people
do some specific things.  It is not a means to do all things.  If
anyone else wants to grow the community, make sweet new tools, etc
please do! I'd hope you weren't waiting around for approval or
anything like that.

If there is something that you want to do that having a formal
organization can help with let us know.


Ok, does anyone have a preference on the way we present the 
openstreetmap.us  page? The engineer in me 
says to install a wiki, but the community organizer in me (probably 
about the size of the tip of my thumbnail) says it should be something 
a little more immediately accessible for someone brand new to OSM and 
participating in this sort of project.

i'd suggest setting up wiki.openstreetmap.us for the wiki side, and
have www.openstreetmap.us be a set of pages that don't need to change
frequently that point into the wiki.

richard

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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[Ian Dees]

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Kate Chapman  wrote:

> Agreed, I see the reason for incorporating as a means to help people
> do some specific things.  It is not a means to do all things.  If
> anyone else wants to grow the community, make sweet new tools, etc
> please do! I'd hope you weren't waiting around for approval or
> anything like that.
>
> If there is something that you want to do that having a formal
> organization can help with let us know.


Ok, does anyone have a preference on the way we present the
openstreetmap.uspage? The engineer in me says to install a wiki, but
the community organizer
in me (probably about the size of the tip of my thumbnail) says it should be
something a little more immediately accessible for someone brand new to OSM
and participating in this sort of project.
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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[Kate Chapman]

Agreed, I see the reason for incorporating as a means to help people  
do some specific things.  It is not a means to do all things.  If  
anyone else wants to grow the community, make sweet new tools, etc  
please do! I'd hope you weren't waiting around for approval or  
anything like that.

If there is something that you want to do that having a formal  
organization can help with let us know.

Kate

On Apr 30, 2010, at 4:51 PM, SteveC  wrote:

>
> On Apr 30, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Richard Welty wrote:
>
>> On 4/30/10 12:50 PM, Thea Clay wrote:
>>>
>>> Personally I agree with Ian’s idea. I would love to see an OSM-U 
>>> S site like the one in Germany ( http://www.openstreetmap.de/) t 
>>> hat would have city level pages similar to MappingDC. If I remem 
>>> ber correctly we have donated servers re Ian and SteveC has the  
>>> domain openstreetmap.us ( 
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-us@openstreetmap.org/msg02623.html 
>>> ). That way we can serve the needs of current members but also h 
>>> ave an engaging centralized place were newbies can go to find re 
>>> sources, connect with other mappers in their area or, if there a 
>>> re no other mappers nearby, start the local community themselves.
>> openstreetmap.us is currently pointed at the donated servers, which  
>> Ian has set up,
>> but there is no main web page configured right this minute. apache  
>> is there, it works,
>> but the only web page there is a default "it works" page.
>>
>> i think it's up to us (the board of OSM US) to jump start such usage.
>
> I disagree, the board should get out of the way and let anyone who  
> wants to help JFDI. That's what we do at OSMF, or at least try to do.
>
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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[SteveC]

On Apr 30, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Richard Weait wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Ian Dees  wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Thea Clay  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If I remember correctly we have donated servers re Ian and SteveC has the
>>> domain openstreetmap.us (
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-us@openstreetmap.org/msg02623.html). That
>>> way we can serve the needs of current members but also have an engaging
>>> centralized place were newbies can go to find resources, connect with other
>>> mappers in their area or, if there are no other mappers nearby, start the
>>> local community themselves.
>>> 
>>> I think all we are missing are people to help design and populate the
>>> site. Is anyone interested in teaming up to get this done?
>>> 
>> 
>> Steve pointed the domain to the servers a few weeks ago and Apache is
>> sitting ready to go. If anyone has any ideas we can get something going
>> fairly quickly. I'd be happy to help on the technical side if someone is
>> willing to work on the design/content side.
> 
> Any objection to Canadian use, or must every community reinvent this wheel?

with the .us suffix put off people in CA though Richard?

Yours &c.

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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[SteveC]

On Apr 30, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Richard Welty wrote:

> On 4/30/10 12:50 PM, Thea Clay wrote:
>> 
>> Personally I agree with Ian’s idea. I would love to see an OSM-US site like 
>> the one in Germany ( http://www.openstreetmap.de/) that would have city 
>> level pages similar to MappingDC. If I remember correctly we have donated 
>> servers re Ian and SteveC has the domain openstreetmap.us ( 
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-us@openstreetmap.org/msg02623.html). That 
>> way we can serve the needs of current members but also have an engaging 
>> centralized place were newbies can go to find resources, connect with other 
>> mappers in their area or, if there are no other mappers nearby, start the 
>> local community themselves.
> openstreetmap.us is currently pointed at the donated servers, which Ian has 
> set up,
> but there is no main web page configured right this minute. apache is there, 
> it works,
> but the only web page there is a default "it works" page.
> 
> i think it's up to us (the board of OSM US) to jump start such usage.

I disagree, the board should get out of the way and let anyone who wants to 
help JFDI. That's what we do at OSMF, or at least try to do.

> 
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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[Richard Weait]

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 12:36 PM, SteveC  wrote:
> FYI I am in cooperstown speaking at a thing next month, getting there via 
> Albany.

I'm giving an Intro to OSM talk at FOSScon.org in Rochester NY, on
June 19.  So if that isn't to far astray Richard might add both of our
talks to the Albany meetup.

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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[Thea Clay]

Agreed. I don't see why Canadians can't get involved/use the site too. The more 
the merrier :)
Best,
Thea
On 4/30/10 12:01 PM, "Richard Weait"  wrote:

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Ian Dees  wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Thea Clay  wrote:
>>
>> If I remember correctly we have donated servers re Ian and SteveC has the
>> domain openstreetmap.us (
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-us@openstreetmap.org/msg02623.html). That
>> way we can serve the needs of current members b I don't see why Canada can't 
>> get involved too. The more the merrier :) ut also have an engaging
>> centralized place were newbies can go to find resources, connect with other
>> mappers in their area or, if there are no other mappers nearby, start the
>> local community themselves.
>>
>> I think all we are missing are people to help design and populate the
>> site. Is anyone interested in teaming up to get this done?
>>
>
> Steve pointed the domain to the servers a few weeks ago and Apache is
> sitting ready to go. If anyone has any ideas we can get something going
> fairly quickly. I'd be happy to help on the technical side if someone is
> willing to work on the design/content side.

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[Ian Dees]

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Richard Weait  wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Ian Dees  wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Thea Clay  wrote:
> >>
> >> If I remember correctly we have donated servers re Ian and SteveC has
> the
> >> domain openstreetmap.us (
> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-us@openstreetmap.org/msg02623.html).
> That
> >> way we can serve the needs of current members but also have an engaging
> >> centralized place were newbies can go to find resources, connect with
> other
> >> mappers in their area or, if there are no other mappers nearby, start
> the
> >> local community themselves.
> >>
> >> I think all we are missing are people to help design and populate the
> >> site. Is anyone interested in teaming up to get this done?
> >>
> >
> > Steve pointed the domain to the servers a few weeks ago and Apache is
> > sitting ready to go. If anyone has any ideas we can get something going
> > fairly quickly. I'd be happy to help on the technical side if someone is
> > willing to work on the design/content side.
>
> Any objection to Canadian use, or must every community reinvent this wheel?
>

If you don't mind sitting on the openstreetmap.us domain :-)

I hope that if we were to come up with something to drive the community it
would be useful-to and used-by other groups (including Canada).
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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[Richard Welty]

On 4/30/10 12:50 PM, Thea Clay wrote:


Personally I agree with Ian's idea. I would love to see an OSM-US site 
like the one in Germany ( http://www.openstreetmap.de/) that would 
have city level pages similar to MappingDC. If I remember correctly we 
have donated servers re Ian and SteveC has the domain openstreetmap.us 
( 
http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-us@openstreetmap.org/msg02623.html). 
That way we can serve the needs of current members but also have an 
engaging centralized place were newbies can go to find resources, 
connect with other mappers in their area or, if there are no other 
mappers nearby, start the local community themselves.
openstreetmap.us is currently pointed at the donated servers, which Ian 
has set up,
but there is no main web page configured right this minute. apache is 
there, it works,

but the only web page there is a default "it works" page.

i think it's up to us (the board of OSM US) to jump start such usage.

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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[Richard Weait]

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Ian Dees  wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Thea Clay  wrote:
>>
>> If I remember correctly we have donated servers re Ian and SteveC has the
>> domain openstreetmap.us (
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-us@openstreetmap.org/msg02623.html). That
>> way we can serve the needs of current members but also have an engaging
>> centralized place were newbies can go to find resources, connect with other
>> mappers in their area or, if there are no other mappers nearby, start the
>> local community themselves.
>>
>> I think all we are missing are people to help design and populate the
>> site. Is anyone interested in teaming up to get this done?
>>
>
> Steve pointed the domain to the servers a few weeks ago and Apache is
> sitting ready to go. If anyone has any ideas we can get something going
> fairly quickly. I'd be happy to help on the technical side if someone is
> willing to work on the design/content side.

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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[Ian Dees]

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Thea Clay  wrote:

> If I remember correctly we have donated servers re Ian and SteveC has the
> domain openstreetmap.us (
> http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-us@openstreetmap.org/msg02623.html). That
> way we can serve the needs of current members but also have an engaging
> centralized place were newbies can go to find resources, connect with other
> mappers in their area or, if there are no other mappers nearby, start the
> local community themselves.
>
> I think all we are missing are people to help design and populate the site.
> Is anyone interested in teaming up to get this done?
>
>
Steve pointed the domain to the servers a few weeks ago and Apache is
sitting ready to go. If anyone has any ideas we can get something going
fairly quickly. I'd be happy to help on the technical side if someone is
willing to work on the design/content side.
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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[Thea Clay]

Hi,
Here are some more OSM related sites I'm connected with. CloudMade repays me 
for the meetup.com fees.
Austin, TX: http://www.meetup.com/Austin-OpenStreetMappers/ and 
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=358884127712
Dallas, TX: http://www.meetup.com/Dallas-OpenStreetMappers/
San Antonio, TX: http://www.meetup.com/San-Antonio-OpenStreetMappers/
Alabama: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=220585289228
Georgia: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=135720612308

I agree that the cost of Meetup.com is a burden to organizers. The reason I 
have continued to use it is because frankly its hard to organize events and 
provide a palatable social networking platform for group members to easily stay 
in touch between events/work on long term projects using only the wiki and 
talk-us.

Some of the Meetup groups I organize have switched over to Facebook because a 
majority of the mappers are already using the service, its super easy to do and 
free. I personally really like the concept of the MappingDC page 
(www.mappingdc.org) but I think in general setting up and running a standalone 
site for each local group is both a burden to organizers and not scalable.

My base level concern with all of these sites is that they are not really 
connected with OSM proper or each other.  Having local OSM groups on so many 
sites is fine in theory and I don't want to micromanage by advocating people 
must use X site. I think communities should be free to self-organize any 
way they want. But logistically it becomes very hard to get groups talking with 
each other or the larger OSM community when they are scattered.  Communication 
between groups early on is important because often new/potenial organizers are 
unaware of all the resources and experience found in the existing community. I 
get the sense that groups are forming on these outside sites mainly out of 
necessity rather than inherent preference of one over the other. As interest in 
organizing city level groups for more coordinated mapping grows I think OSM-US 
could possibly provide this essential service to community members in a free 
and OSM-centric environment.

Personally I agree with Ian's idea. I would love to see an OSM-US site like the 
one in Germany ( http://www.openstreetmap.de/) that would have city level pages 
similar to MappingDC. If I remember correctly we have donated servers re Ian 
and SteveC has the domain openstreetmap.us ( 
http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-us@openstreetmap.org/msg02623.html). That way 
we can serve the needs of current members but also have an engaging centralized 
place were newbies can go to find resources, connect with other mappers in 
their area or, if there are no other mappers nearby, start the local community 
themselves.

I think all we are missing are people to help design and populate the site. Is 
anyone interested in teaming up to get this done?

Best,
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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[SteveC]

there's also the OSM calendar on the wiki, which has an RSS feed.


On Apr 29, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Ian Dees wrote:

> Keep in mind that we have openstreetmap.us and a couple servers sitting 
> around waiting for a use. Perhaps we could set up a similar thing for the 
> US-based meetups and events? Or maybe we just need a shared Google Calendar...
> 
> upcoming and meetup both already have communities around them, though...
> 
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Jim McAndrew  wrote:
> Who is paying for these meetup.com groups?
> I met with someone at Where 2.0 from meetup.com  mentioned that OSM uses the 
> site for some meetups, but it's hard because they charge $12/mo.  There may 
> be a way to get these groups "sponsored" by meetup.com, so that OSM mappers 
> aren't footing the bill for the groups.  There's also Yahoo!'s upcoming.com 
> which is just free in general.
> 
> --
> Jim McAndrew
> 
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Christopher Covington  wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 13:59 -0400, Richard Weait wrote:
> > Any US OSM meetups other than these three? Any other fixed addresses
> > for local US OSM meetings?
> >
> > http://www.meetup.com/Atlanta-OpenStreetMap/
> > http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Columbus/
> > http://www.meetup.com/Bay-Area-OpenStreetMappers/
> >
> > Also, if the organizers of the Bay Area meetup would add
> > "OpenStreetMap" as one of their groups, some others on the Bay Area
> > OSM waiting list will be able to find them.
> 
> While it's generally handy to have listings on multiple websites, what's
> the special importance of having OpenStreetMap groups listed on this
> particular paid service?
> 
> -Chris C.
> 
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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[SteveC]

We've run a few ad hoc events in Denver off facebook because it's free.


On Apr 28, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Richard Weait wrote:

> Any US OSM meetups other than these three? Any other fixed addresses
> for local US OSM meetings?
> 
> http://www.meetup.com/Atlanta-OpenStreetMap/
> http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Columbus/
> http://www.meetup.com/Bay-Area-OpenStreetMappers/
> 
> Also, if the organizers of the Bay Area meetup would add
> "OpenStreetMap" as one of their groups, some others on the Bay Area
> OSM waiting list will be able to find them.
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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[SteveC]

FYI I am in cooperstown speaking at a thing next month, getting there via 
Albany.


On Apr 28, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Richard Welty wrote:
> On 4/28/10 1:59 PM, Richard Weait wrote:
>> Any US OSM meetups other than these three? Any other fixed addresses
>> for local US OSM meetings?
>> 
>> http://www.meetup.com/Atlanta-OpenStreetMap/
>> http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Columbus/
>> http://www.meetup.com/Bay-Area-OpenStreetMappers/
>> 
> i'm planning on doing something in the Albany, NY area once i see a few
> more active mappers in the area.
> 
> richard
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[Bill Ricker]

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Jim McAndrew  wrote:
> Who is paying for these meetup.com groups?

Even if someone pays -- CloudMade did at one point, back when there
were Ambassadors -- I won't log into that service, period. The local
MySQL group uses it, and I find their Meetup invites a real turnoff.

One yahoo group/list I am on self-spams themselves from a yahoo
calendar, seems less obnoxious.

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[Richard Weait]

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Ian Dees  wrote:
> Keep in mind that we have openstreetmap.us and a couple servers sitting
> around waiting for a use. Perhaps we could set up a similar thing for the
> US-based meetups and events? Or maybe we just need a shared Google
> Calendar...
> upcoming and meetup both already have communities around them, though...

Right.  Do you want to reach those who already know about OSM, or
those who might might be excited to learn about OSM?  Perhaps both.
Depends on your event.

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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[Ian Dees]

Keep in mind that we have openstreetmap.us and a couple servers sitting
around waiting for a use. Perhaps we could set up a similar thing for the
US-based meetups and events? Or maybe we just need a shared Google
Calendar...

upcoming and meetup both already have communities around them, though...

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Jim McAndrew  wrote:

> Who is paying for these meetup.com groups?
> I met with someone at Where 2.0 from meetup.com  mentioned that OSM uses
> the site for some meetups, but it's hard because they charge $12/mo.  There
> may be a way to get these groups "sponsored" by meetup.com, so that OSM
> mappers aren't footing the bill for the groups.  There's also Yahoo!'s
> upcoming.com which is just free in general.
>
> --
> Jim McAndrew
>
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Christopher Covington wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 13:59 -0400, Richard Weait wrote:
>> > Any US OSM meetups other than these three? Any other fixed addresses
>> > for local US OSM meetings?
>> >
>> > http://www.meetup.com/Atlanta-OpenStreetMap/
>> > http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Columbus/
>> > http://www.meetup.com/Bay-Area-OpenStreetMappers/
>> >
>> > Also, if the organizers of the Bay Area meetup would add
>> > "OpenStreetMap" as one of their groups, some others on the Bay Area
>> > OSM waiting list will be able to find them.
>>
>> While it's generally handy to have listings on multiple websites, what's
>> the special importance of having OpenStreetMap groups listed on this
>> particular paid service?
>>
>> -Chris C.
>>
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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[Richard Weait]

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Christopher Covington  wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 13:59 -0400, Richard Weait wrote:
>> Any US OSM meetups other than these three? Any other fixed addresses
>> for local US OSM meetings?
>
> While it's generally handy to have listings on multiple websites, what's
> the special importance of having OpenStreetMap groups listed on this
> particular paid service?

None whatsoever.  I found it handy to let them run the web site,
mailing list, web forum, sign up, calendar, etc-nonsense, so I can
just meet with other OSMers.  Use whichever service you like or roll
your own.

But.  If you have some permanent url / calendar, for local OSM-related
meetings, I'd like to know about it.

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[Jim McAndrew]

Who is paying for these meetup.com groups?
I met with someone at Where 2.0 from meetup.com  mentioned that OSM uses the
site for some meetups, but it's hard because they charge $12/mo.  There may
be a way to get these groups "sponsored" by meetup.com, so that OSM mappers
aren't footing the bill for the groups.  There's also Yahoo!'s
upcoming.comwhich is just free in general.

--
Jim McAndrew

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Christopher Covington  wrote:

> On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 13:59 -0400, Richard Weait wrote:
> > Any US OSM meetups other than these three? Any other fixed addresses
> > for local US OSM meetings?
> >
> > http://www.meetup.com/Atlanta-OpenStreetMap/
> > http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Columbus/
> > http://www.meetup.com/Bay-Area-OpenStreetMappers/
> >
> > Also, if the organizers of the Bay Area meetup would add
> > "OpenStreetMap" as one of their groups, some others on the Bay Area
> > OSM waiting list will be able to find them.
>
> While it's generally handy to have listings on multiple websites, what's
> the special importance of having OpenStreetMap groups listed on this
> particular paid service?
>
> -Chris C.
>
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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

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On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 13:59 -0400, Richard Weait wrote:
> Any US OSM meetups other than these three? Any other fixed addresses
> for local US OSM meetings?
> 
> http://www.meetup.com/Atlanta-OpenStreetMap/
> http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Columbus/
> http://www.meetup.com/Bay-Area-OpenStreetMappers/
> 
> Also, if the organizers of the Bay Area meetup would add
> "OpenStreetMap" as one of their groups, some others on the Bay Area
> OSM waiting list will be able to find them.

While it's generally handy to have listings on multiple websites, what's
the special importance of having OpenStreetMap groups listed on this
particular paid service?

-Chris C.


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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[Steven Johnson]

*Mea culpa.* In my haste to reply, I directed you all to the GeoDC site for
OSM-related activities around WashDC area. Big oversight on my part.

The MappingDC site (http://mappingdc.org/) is 100% dedicated to OSM
activities (mainly mapping parties) in the nation's capital. There is a link
there to the MappingDC Google group. You can also follow @mappingDC on
Twitter.

Hope this clears things up,
SEJ

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On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 15:40, Richard Welty  wrote:

> On 4/28/10 2:53 PM, Richard Weait wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Steven Johnson
>  wrote:
> >
> >> Check the http://geo-dc.ning.com/ page for details.
> >>
> >> SEJ
> >>
> > Thanks, Steven.
> >
> > Can I encourage Richard and Ian to get a URL for a calendar and start
> > using it?
> >
> i have the following group set up now:
>
> http://www.meetup.com/CapitalDistrict-OpenStreetMap/
>
> (Albany/Schenectady/Troy New York and surrounding area)
>
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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

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On 4/28/10 2:53 PM, Richard Weait wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Steven Johnson  wrote:
>
>> Check the http://geo-dc.ning.com/ page for details.
>>
>> SEJ
>>  
> Thanks, Steven.
>
> Can I encourage Richard and Ian to get a URL for a calendar and start
> using it?
>
i have the following group set up now:

http://www.meetup.com/CapitalDistrict-OpenStreetMap/

(Albany/Schenectady/Troy New York and surrounding area)

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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[Richard Weait]

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Steven Johnson  wrote:
>
> Check the http://geo-dc.ning.com/ page for details.
>
> SEJ

Thanks, Steven.

Can I encourage Richard and Ian to get a URL for a calendar and start
using it?  Giving an emerging community a point of focus might be all
it takes to turn it in to a real community.  Meetup.com is dead easy
and sets up your calendar / email / forum in a snap even if it does
cost a few bucks.

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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[Steven Johnson]

Not an OSM meetup, per se but we do hold semi-regular GeoDC events where OSM
is frequently part of the discussion. If you're in the Washington, DC area,
stop by. Next event is (tentatively) scheduled for 12 April.

Check the http://geo-dc.ning.com/ page for details.

SEJ

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On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 14:08, Ian Dees  wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Richard Weait  wrote:
>
>> Any US OSM meetups other than these three? Any other fixed addresses
>> for local US OSM meetings?
>>
>> http://www.meetup.com/Atlanta-OpenStreetMap/
>> http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Columbus/
>> http://www.meetup.com/Bay-Area-OpenStreetMappers/
>>
>> Also, if the organizers of the Bay Area meetup would add
>> "OpenStreetMap" as one of their groups, some others on the Bay Area
>> OSM waiting list will be able to find them.
>>
>>
> There's a slow rumbling of OSM mappers in the Twin Cities (Minneapolis/St.
> Paul). I'm working on getting them together for a mapping party or meetup.
> Slowly but surely...
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On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Richard Weait  wrote:

> Any US OSM meetups other than these three? Any other fixed addresses
> for local US OSM meetings?
>
> http://www.meetup.com/Atlanta-OpenStreetMap/
> http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Columbus/
> http://www.meetup.com/Bay-Area-OpenStreetMappers/
>
> Also, if the organizers of the Bay Area meetup would add
> "OpenStreetMap" as one of their groups, some others on the Bay Area
> OSM waiting list will be able to find them.
>
>
There's a slow rumbling of OSM mappers in the Twin Cities (Minneapolis/St.
Paul). I'm working on getting them together for a mapping party or meetup.
Slowly but surely...
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[Richard Welty]

On 4/28/10 1:59 PM, Richard Weait wrote:
> Any US OSM meetups other than these three? Any other fixed addresses
> for local US OSM meetings?
>
> http://www.meetup.com/Atlanta-OpenStreetMap/
> http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Columbus/
> http://www.meetup.com/Bay-Area-OpenStreetMappers/
>
i'm planning on doing something in the Albany, NY area once i see a few
more active mappers in the area.

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