Re: The Talk2 List Comcast Guilty of Net Neutrality
On 8/1/2008, 8:19:57 PM EDT, Derek wrote on the toilet wall: D> Finally the government does something in the nets favor. Yes, but by a very small margine... 3 to 2? They really didn't want to. And looky at them republicans opposing it? Now, I'm not affiliated with any political party, andI plan to stay that way, but I have to say "Who would have figured that?" Right... Sure... -- -- Patrick Perdue (MCP, CNA) KE4DYI Greensboro, NC website: http://www.pdaudio.net home: +1(336)698-4417 Mobile phone and SMS: +1(336)509-5583 e-mail and .net messenger: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> aim: noaptiva This message originally sent in reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Friday, August 01, 2008 at 8:46 PM EDT. Did you miss a message? Well, don't. http://www.mail-archive.com/talk2%40andrelouis.com/ has it for you. Never miss a Talk2 message again.
Re: The Talk2 List Comcast Guilty of Net Neutrality
Heck yeah. Finally the government does something in the nets favor. Good times. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "talk2" Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 4:52 PM Subject: The Talk2 List Comcast Guilty of Net Neutrality Let me be the first to congratulate the United States Federal Communications Commission on its finding of guilt of Comcast for interfering with the downloads of it's customers. http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Government/Comcast-Guilty-of-Net-Neutrality- Violations/ Comcast Guilty of Net Neutrality Violations By Roy Mark 2008-08-01 FCC holds nation's second largest broadband provider broke network neutrality principles when it throttled P2P traffic from BitTorrent. FCC rejects Comcast contention that network throttling is part of routine network management by broadband service providers. In the first major test of the FCC's (Federal Communications Commission) network neutrality principles, the agency found Comcast guilty Aug. 1 of secretly degrading network traffic. On a 3-2 vote, the FCC ordered Comcast to stop blocking traffic, disclose to the FCC the full extent of the cable giant's traffic practices and to keep the public informed of its future network management plans. The FCC said Comcast violated the agency's Internet policy when it blocked P2P traffic by BitTorrent. The agency also found that Comcast misled consumers when it did not properly disclose its P2P policy. Voting for the sanctions were Republican Chairman Kevin Martin and Democratic Commissioners Michael Copps and Jonathan Adelstein. Republicans Robert McDowell and Deborah Taylor Tate opposed the measure. "Comcast was delaying subscribers' downloads and blocking their uploads," Martin said. "It was doing so 24/7, regardless of the amount of congestion on the network or how small the file might be." Martin insisted the FCC's actions are not about regulating the Internet. "Indeed, I have consistently opposed calls for legislation or rules to impose network neutrality," Martin said. "Like many other policy makers and members of Congress, I have said such legislation or rules are unnecessary, because the Commission already has the tools it needs to punish a bad actor." McDowell, though, said the FCC does not have the rules in place to enforce network neutrality. Comcast also contends its practices are reasonable under FCC rules and even if the FCC found Comcast in violation, the agency has no authority to enforce its network neutrality principles. "The FCC overreaches with this order," McDowell said. Copps called the vote a landmark decision for the FCC. "Discrimination, per se, is not illegal," Copps said. "Unreasonable discrimination, though, is." In August 2005, the FCC declared that consumers are entitled to access the lawful Internet content of their choice, run applications and services of their choice and plug in and run legal devices of their choice. The FCC also said consumers have a right to competition among network providers, application and service providers and content providers. Copps called for a fifth FCC network neutrality principle. "A clearly stated principle of non-discrimination would prove the FCC is not having a one-night affair with network neutrality," Copps said. "The non-discrimination principle would also apply to wireless and wireline to assure all the freedoms of the Internet to everyone." Did you miss a message? Well, don't. http://www.mail-archive.com/talk2%40andrelouis.com/ has it for you. Never miss a Talk2 message again. Did you miss a message? Well, don't. http://www.mail-archive.com/talk2%40andrelouis.com/ has it for you. Never miss a Talk2 message again.
The Talk2 List Comcast Guilty of Net Neutrality
Let me be the first to congratulate the United States Federal Communications Commission on its finding of guilt of Comcast for interfering with the downloads of it's customers. http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Government/Comcast-Guilty-of-Net-Neutrality- Violations/ Comcast Guilty of Net Neutrality Violations By Roy Mark 2008-08-01 FCC holds nation's second largest broadband provider broke network neutrality principles when it throttled P2P traffic from BitTorrent. FCC rejects Comcast contention that network throttling is part of routine network management by broadband service providers. In the first major test of the FCC's (Federal Communications Commission) network neutrality principles, the agency found Comcast guilty Aug. 1 of secretly degrading network traffic. On a 3-2 vote, the FCC ordered Comcast to stop blocking traffic, disclose to the FCC the full extent of the cable giant's traffic practices and to keep the public informed of its future network management plans. The FCC said Comcast violated the agency's Internet policy when it blocked P2P traffic by BitTorrent. The agency also found that Comcast misled consumers when it did not properly disclose its P2P policy. Voting for the sanctions were Republican Chairman Kevin Martin and Democratic Commissioners Michael Copps and Jonathan Adelstein. Republicans Robert McDowell and Deborah Taylor Tate opposed the measure. "Comcast was delaying subscribers' downloads and blocking their uploads," Martin said. "It was doing so 24/7, regardless of the amount of congestion on the network or how small the file might be." Martin insisted the FCC's actions are not about regulating the Internet. "Indeed, I have consistently opposed calls for legislation or rules to impose network neutrality," Martin said. "Like many other policy makers and members of Congress, I have said such legislation or rules are unnecessary, because the Commission already has the tools it needs to punish a bad actor." McDowell, though, said the FCC does not have the rules in place to enforce network neutrality. Comcast also contends its practices are reasonable under FCC rules and even if the FCC found Comcast in violation, the agency has no authority to enforce its network neutrality principles. "The FCC overreaches with this order," McDowell said. Copps called the vote a landmark decision for the FCC. "Discrimination, per se, is not illegal," Copps said. "Unreasonable discrimination, though, is." In August 2005, the FCC declared that consumers are entitled to access the lawful Internet content of their choice, run applications and services of their choice and plug in and run legal devices of their choice. The FCC also said consumers have a right to competition among network providers, application and service providers and content providers. Copps called for a fifth FCC network neutrality principle. "A clearly stated principle of non-discrimination would prove the FCC is not having a one-night affair with network neutrality," Copps said. "The non-discrimination principle would also apply to wireless and wireline to assure all the freedoms of the Internet to everyone." Did you miss a message? Well, don't. http://www.mail-archive.com/talk2%40andrelouis.com/ has it for you. Never miss a Talk2 message again.
The Talk2 List random show.
At 10 eastern, and thus 31 minits after this post, I'm going to do a random show. Conditions arn't great for one given that some work is being done in the basement, and all kinds of noises are coming through the flor, but I still feal like doing one anyway. I know that it'd be wise to cover for venison instead of going on now, but who knows how long I may or may not be around... You know how and where to listen, so go for it.