[Tango-L] New Book: The Church of Tango: a Memoir
Hello listeros! Just to let you all know that my memoir, The Church of Tango, was published on Saturday. Not a typical tango book per se, nor a tango history, it is my passionate memoir of tragedy and adventure, lust and music, romance and tango, that takes place in four countries. It is my personal story of loss and survival and how I ended up living and teaching tango in Buenos Aires. (I was tempted to subtitle it Death, Dance, Destiny but came to my senses in time.) It will shortly be available on Amazon in paper, and also in a Kindle version. For now it can be ordered directly from the printer: https://www.createspace.com/3733773 Cherie Magnus ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] the fear of close embrace
I believe the term close embrace as it relates to tango was coined by a native English speaker to distinguish it from the hold of ballroom. An embrace is an embrace. Do you embrace someone at arm's length in normal life? The tango embrace is the same as the embrace of someone you love, even though you may not know or care about the person. It is the dance position. In my experience as a tango dancer and teacher, many foreign dancers, especially those from Anglo-Saxon traditions, are indeed afraid of the embrace. They are not used to being that close to someone who is not their sweetheart or close relative, and sometimes their emotions get all confused after a tanda of moving together as one hugged so close by a stranger. The embrace is the position for dancing tango--it's the base for all of the emotions and feelings that arise from the music and feeling connected, not only to your partner, but to the universe. There is no such thing as an open embrace. If you can stampede a herd of elephants between the couple, there is no embrace. Tango is danced heart to heart. The beating of two hearts united together is the rhythm of tango. And men wearing hats when they dance? Well that's fine on stage during the historical bits, especially in the comedy milonga that is always part of the show. Wearing a costume in a milonga while dancing socially? Ridiculously affected. And one other thing, if that hat is worn a lot for dancing, it usually smells really bad. cherie http://tangocherir.blogspot.com ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] social ethical behavior
Vince, this is so inaccurate! If the porteno is under 30, he probably goes to practicas where anything goes. As a dancer who has lived and taught tango with my milonguero parter in BsAs for many years, let me assure you that the codigos are still respected and observed in all of the traditional milongas. In places like La Viruta, where the idea is to meet someone for extracurricular activities after the milonga and not to dance beautiful tangos, many men are aggressive and assault women at their tables (if they're lucky enough at La Viruta to have a table) by grabbing their arms and taking them to the dance floor. This works particularly well with foreigners and young people who have not learned the codigos. But just try this at a traditional milonga! The guy will be laughed out the door. Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com I have it on good authority from someone who has returned and experienced *many* milongas in BsAs that most portenoes do not use the codes. In fact they approach women as men do so in Australia. And yes, there are sleazes amongst them. The notions of romantic codes have been lost I think upon the modern generation. BTW, it is Niki, not Nick Vince In Melbourne ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] World Champions
Yes they are, in Tango Salon. Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: Jack Dylan jackdylan...@yahoo.com To: Tango-L@mit.edu Sent: Tue, Aug 31, 2010 2:54 pm Subject: [Tango-L] World Champions http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBItUyr_eBsfeature=player_embedded#! Are these the new World Champions? Jack ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] Fwd: social ethical behavior
This type of behavior can happen with foreign people, but never with a Porteño couple. -Original Message- From: Dubravko Kakarigi dubravko_2...@yahoo.com To: tango-l@MIT.EDU Sent: Tue, Aug 31, 2010 3:10 pm Subject: Re: [Tango-L] social ethical behavior You may think of this what you wish, but here's an excerpt of my experience from a recent visit to Bs As dancing at a traditional afternoon milonga (3-10pm). My partner and I always set together and mostly danced with each other. On three occasions (out of four visits to that milonga), men (each older than 60, I estimate) signaled me from a distance to see if it is okay to invite my partner to dance; I affirmed, they then connected with my partner with a cabeceo and danced. On one occasion a young fellow stepped out in front of our table, which was at the edge of the floor so he was standing on the floor with no one else on the floor, and asked my partner to dance - she declined. BTW, my partner and I had an agreement that if she wanted to dance with someone else, she would let me know (sometimes I suggested a good dancer to her as well), and I would facilitate the exchange by giving the gentleman a chance to confer with me first. This all may seem quite anachronistic and chauvinistic but it worked well because it followed the unwritten rules of behavior and eliminated any embarrassment or discomfort. ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Social-ethical behaviours and protocols
These rules apply more to the locals than visiting foreigners. There's quite a taboo against dancing with the woman of an Argentino, but not really with tourists. The locals understand that tourists are here to dance and perhaps don't know the codigos, so things are looser with foreigners, with no disrespect. The codigos even go so far as to prevent a milonguero from dancing with the friends of someone he dances with regularly, or who sit at the same table. And equally, a man's friends do not dance with his favorite partners or those who sit with her. It's all out of respect. Personally speaking, I can only dance with foreigners (with permission) and rarely local friends, while Ruben can dance with anyone he wants. And it's fine with me; I don't have a problem with that because he doesn't abuse the privilege. And I don't want to dance with everyone anyway. So the codigos work out very well for me, and always have; in fact, I LOVE them, because I feel safe and respected. Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com This question may be superfluous for some, and perhaps controversial for many, ut I'm wondering if there is any known written or unwritten code of ethics egarding girlfriends and boyfriends, fiancés, husbands and wives proper ehaviors Not only among themselves but dancing with other partners also. Are here any traditional unspoken rules at the Buenos Aires Milongas regarding how ccompanied women or men should behave with the opposite sex (or same sex) asual partners, without falling in the questionable or excess category? El Urugua en Tally ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Music preferences
(Although I had heard that no one would dance when Gardel sings or is played, out of respect to him.) I believe Gardel is not danced because the tempos wax and wane and it truly is music for listening, not out of respect for him. There are many tangos that are not danced for the same reason--Por Una Cabeza is another example (except for in a Scent of a Woman). But we're talking traditional milongas here. Neither are women vocalists played for dancing. Go figure. Or several taboos and preferences of the very traditional Porteño milonguero. Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] Death of tango?
Hola Vince, Don't worry--this blog post in my opinion was just extremist to get attention. I've lived here in BsAs for 7 years and the milongas I go to are just as packed with locals as ever--summer or winter, the Saturday afternoon Milonga de los Consagrados is always full of hundreds of dancers, mostly local, just a few foreign. The other regular milonga we always go to is Nuevo Chique on Thurs. afternoon, and if you don't get there by 7 you don't get a seat. Deby, the writer of the blog you cited, does not attend those. I also heard that last Monday in Gricel it was standing room only. Generally the Sat. afternoon milonga at Maipu, Cachirulu, is jammed and in fact the organizers are opening another one on Tues. I think at El Beso. Sueno Porteno on Weds. is a huge success and is always crowded. Several new milongas have opened, some older ones are losing attendees and are fading away. It's true, some are hanging on by a thread. That is the rise and fall of the business--like any other dependent on being popular or trendy to attract customers. While it's true that inflation has made all prices shoot up, it was never true that working locals went to several milongas every night of the week. A few milongueros did and still do, but they usually don't have to pay admission. Normally people go to dance on the nights before their days off. When Ruben was young and dancing every night, he'd sleep a couple hours in his car before reporting for work at the TV station. But that life doesn't appeal to him anymore and 2-3 times a week is sufficient.. However visiting tourists do dance every night, often at several milongas, because that's what they're here to do for 2 weeks or however long their vacation is. Don't worry. There is definitely no danger of the death of tango in BsAs any time soon! Come down soon and check it out for yourself! Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com = ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] Mass for Osvaldo Zotto
The following was sent to me this morning by Guillermo Thorp, the editor of Diostango Magazine here in BsAs. On Feb. 8 at 7:30 p.m. there will be a Mass in honor and memory of Osvaldo Zotto, in the Church of San Jose, Bartolome Mitre 2411, in Buenos Aires. All are welcome. Informo que el próximo 08 de Febrero, a las 19.30 hs., habrá de realizarse una Misa como homenaje y recordación al recientemente fallecido, el gran maestro y bailarín argentino OSVALDO ZOTTO. Tendrá lugar en la Iglesia San José - calle Bartolomé Mitre 2411, Ciudad de Buenos Aires. A todos sus amigos, admiradores, alumnos y colegas, queda efectuada la comunicación de ese evento próximo. Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com = ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] No Nuevo (as a style) - according to the Naveiras
Anton, The clubes de barrio are not always in the outskirts of BsAs, but just small social clubs in neighborhoods that tourists never go to. What makes them generally different to the big milongas everyone knows about is that Generally everyone knows each other and dance with their friends; There's less cabeceo; People sit in long tables and groups and are not divided by sex; Classical tangos are played but there is more tropical and folklore; Usually food, real food not snacks, is served and people have dinner; The level of tango is lower; Often the event is called a baile, not a milonga. It can be lots of fun to visit such dances, but only if you go with friends. cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Map of BsAs Milongas??
Hola Mario, There's this map, with addresses and even photos of the milongas: http://bavenues.blogspot.com/ Suerte! cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Truth in Tango Advertising Tango Detente
It's all about the marketing. There's a new ad in the tango magazines here for classes in Tango Nuevo Milonguero !!! Now what in the heck is that? I'm sure the phrase will attract folks who want to be on the cutting edge and/or perhaps to dance both traditional and nuevo. I suppose the promoters want to appeal to everybody. Was it that long ago when there was only tango? cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Misc:Missing Magic
Did the world really change around me, or did my perception of the world change? That's the crux of the question, isn't it? Please tell me what in this world has not changed since 1993? Whether it's the same as it was then or not isn't relevant, especially to people who came to tango much later. What is important still is that Buenos Aires offers a depth, an understanding, an immersion in tango that doesn't exist anywhere else. Like Nancy said, where a taxi driver will sing you his favorite tango at 2 a.m. Take me, for example: last week on an excursion with tango tour clients to La Boca, where I've been a million times, the truth of living in a conventillo finally hit me--I could really see clearly what it meant to sing about the hard and crowded life there, a popular tango theme. There is always something to discover new here about tango. Sure, it's not as it was in 1997 on my first trip here, when foreign dancers were a novelty. Maybe middle-aged foreign women are a dime-a-dozen today, and we are less special than we once were and are treated more like we are back home. After dancing tango for a decade or more, we are also different. This nostalgia for what used to be, that life, people, things, milongas aren't what they once were, is very tango! But Buenos Aires will always be the Mecca of Tango. And every serious dancer will make the pilgrimage one day. It's worth it. http://tangocherie.blogspot.com ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] Tango-L] Nuevo Milonguero
No, but in tradition-minded BsAs, dressing in elegant sport (no jeans, shorts, cargo pants, or athletic shoes), is in respect to the tango. Normally gentlemen wear nice slacks with a button shirt. Jackets or tuxedos are not necessary. cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Piazzolla is not played at Traditional Milongas
After the CroMagnon tragedy in 2004, one of the few milongas that was allowed to stay open was Club Espanol. Dany Borelli, the DJ, used Piazzolla as the cortina because all other music was banned. Or rather, for fear of being closed as were most of the milongas, only musica nacional was played. At this time, there were no tandas of tropical or rock 'n roll, because salsa clubs, rock clubs, all other dance venues were closed for months. People flocked to provincia where they could still dance tango. Starving and frantic dancers came to Club Espanol and waited in the lobby to be allowed to enter. The energy was palpable. It was a frenzy. Even though the album, as I said, was not dance music, I still think that it's important to know Piazzolla and Gardel to more fully appreciate the Argentine culture, the change in instruments, the evolution of tango music. It gives you something with which to further contrast and compare. Sometimes I like to use Piazzolla for some warm-up exercises. Trini de Pittsburgh ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Fw: Astor Piazzolla 50 Essential Tangos for $1.99 starting tonight
Bettina, Piazolla is never danced in the traditional milongas of Buenos Aires. Never. Nor is Gardel or that Greek folksong so popular elsewhere, Tango for Ephora. But yes, the DJs of alternative milongas and practicas here play modern music and non-tango music on occasion. But only the young and/or foreign go there. The milongueros would croak to hear Libertango played for them to dance to! Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com Trini, Astor Piazzolla is widely danced to, as well as in Milongas in Buenos Aires. Most milongas in BsAS now are much more open in choices to music and not as traditional as they used to be. Thanks,Bettina ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Fw: Astor Piazzolla 50 Essential Tangos for $1.99 starting tonight
Bettina, Do we live in the same city? I've lived for 6 years here in Buenos Aires and dance and teach tango with my partner, Ruben Aybar. We go to dance all the time at the traditional milongas, which NEVER play alternative music. It is most definitely not all mixed! Do you go to Region Leonesa, Lo de Celia, La Ideal, El Beso, Maipu, Gricel, El Arranque, Sunderland, etc? (Ok, Maipu does have the alternative milonga, La Marshal, on Weds.) And it is true that the old milongueros sometimes do go to the young milongas in order to dance with young women, but not to dance well. Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com There are so many milongas now in BA and there is no such thing as just Nuevo - there are many cross overs now ad I know some DJ's that play a variety of all kinds of music - things are very differet now than a few years ago, I have lived here 2 years and hear what is being played, sorry. BA is not just old milongueros any longer since awhile, many of those cannot even come anymore to the milongas as they are too old and sadly, no longer able to dance. Just this last week two new milongas have opened. There is a large new generation now in Tango that dances traditional as Alternative and Dj's are providing that. Things are changing - even in Buenos Aires. And what I love here things are not that black and white, it is much more organic. There is also no such thing as the young or the old milongueros go into many Milongas here and it is all mixed. On 8/21/09, macfro...@aol.com macfro...@aol.com wrote: Bettina, Piazolla is never danced in the traditional milongas of Buenos Aires. Never. Nor is Gardel or that Greek folksong so popular elsewhere, Tango for Ephora. But yes, the DJs of alternative milongas and practicas here play modern music and non-tango music on occasion. But only the young and/or foreign go there. The milongueros would croak to hear Libertango played for them to dance to! Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com Trini, Astor Piazzolla is widely danced to, as well as in Milongas in Buenos Aires. Most milongas in BsAS now are much more open in choices to music and not as traditional as they used to be. Thanks,Bettina ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Alex's Blog rules
I think the secret of making this an effective tool would be volume. If 100 students feel the workshop was well-taught and worth the trouble, then the comments of 2-3 dissenters could be taken in context. If only 10 folks participate and rate everyone on the list, then it would be useless. cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] First trip to Bs. As.
Well put, Charles. It's also good to choose milongas where people are more or less your same age, especially if you are over 35. Of course, a young beautiful girl who dances well, or even not that well, will dance anyplace she wants to! Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Way too much kicking
As luck would have it, last week my friend Gail Miller captured Amanda Lucero singing and dancing a solo tango in the bathroom of Los Consagrados, where Amanda works. Check it out on my blog: http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/2009/03/amanda-lucero-solo-tango.html cherie Sorry, Mario. Mamie's boleos don't exactly hug the floor either. 'Tango milonguero' it isn't. This is how the milongueros dance vals: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX-nunHKNqs If you can't see the beauty in this demo, you're dancing the wrong dance. ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] shocking sweat
Sometimes still an old milonguero will keep folded handkerchiefs in each palm as he embraces the woman, to avoid getting his sweat on her back or her right hand. Nice. cherie it?is your responsibility to find followers who do not drape themselves over you and who do not have an axis...how do you choose a dance parnter, what are your dance prioritiesif you were more descriminating, you would neither sweat nor be so bitter, sherrie ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Ideas for a Thematic Milonga
There's a new milonga here in Buenos Aires in the barrio of Boedo (San Juan 3330), called Sueno Porteno on Wednesdays. The organizer, Julia Pugliese, makes games and themes every week: polka dots, colors, ladies give the men they would like to dance with a candy, etc. It's a very fun feminine idea that, however, a lot of men don't go for. My personal opinion is that it can be fun once in a while for holidays or just because, but once a month is maybe too much. But Sueno Porteno is a big success, so what do I know? Good luck with yours! cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/ ** Get movies delivered to your mailbox. One month free from blockbuster.com (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212639737x1200784900/aol?redir=https://www.blockbuster.com/signup/y/reg/p.26978/r.email_footer) ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Milongueando 2009
Hi Jack, It's a nice event organized by Susana Miller. Ruben and I were invited last year. But my personal opinion is that there is no need to come to BsAs specifically to attend an organized touristy festival. Much better to just come and take the lessons you want and go to the milongas and dance with the locals. cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/ ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1211625659x1200715650/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.as px?sc=668072amp;hmpgID=82amp;bcd=emailfooter) ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Best time to visit Buenos Aires
Larry, The best time for tango dancers depends on more than the weather. Sure the weather is a consideration. For this reason, the tango tourists swarm into BsAs in the spring and fall, when the weather is the most mild and pleasant. This can be a good thing or a bad thing, depending on your point of view. Spring and fall also see the tango festivals and events (CITA, for example) that are designed to bring tourists here. More tourists in the milongas in spring and fall mean more competition to dance with the locals; it means more people to dance with if you don't exclude dancing with foreigners; it also brings out more locals who prefer dancing with tourists. So the energy changes a lot. There are also lots of tourists in summer (Jan, Feb) because they want to escape winter in their countries. I suppose you could call them snow birds. The milongas are hot in summer, but then they can be very hot in winter as well. There's a saying: It's always summer in the milongas. Winter (July, August) can be very quiet with few tourists, but also with fewer locals who don't like to go out in the cold, or who are on winter vacation in Bariloche. So in my opinion, after considering all the pros and cons, the best time to come is when you can. Besos, Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/ ** Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall0001) ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] 30 seconds of chit chat, was labor day complaint
Here in Buenos Aires it's part of the codigos that because the tango is so intimate, between the music during the chit-chat time, there is no touching of the other person. Kind of a time to return to normal, before taking up the intimate embrace again. It's actually considered bad manners for a man to hang-on to his partner during the interval, such as keeping his arm around her or holding her hand. This is the cool-down period, and it underlines that the close embrace is the tango dance position, not something else. cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/ ** Pt...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty000514) ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Labor Day Festival: a complaint
I remember when I lived and danced in Los Angeles, one Argentine man there told me he used to hide out in the bathroom to get away from the aggressive women. And this was years and years ago. I can only imagine how much worse it is today. One woman friend from L.A. who I saw down here was being aggressive in the BsAs milongas, and I tried to suggest to her that the Argentine men don't like being pushed like that, and she told me that she was American and she was on vacation and she could do any damned thing she pleased! I can only say that when Ruben is accosted by a woman coming to his table to demand a dance, he might do it that one time because it's very difficult for a caballero to refuse a woman due to politeness, but then he will never dance with her again. So in the end, these women are only hurting themselves by doing whatever damned thing they like! Perhaps not too far in the future, these aggressive women will do all the leading as well. cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/ ** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547) ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] New nuevo tango Sacrifices Tradition and Grace
Here's a great article by Terence Clarke on Tango Nuevo, with the popular DNI school in BsAs as an example of what he terms Playground Tango: http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/04/15/125453.php http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/ ** Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] Closure of Nino Bien -- hopefully temporary
Hola List! Last week there were problems of papeles regarding the upstairs salon of Region Leonesa, where the milogas of Nino Bien on Thursdays, as well as others on Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and Saturday are held. For now the salon is closed without any idea of when there will be a reopening. This is just to advise visitors to check on the status before going. It's a terrible shame, not only because many people are out of work, but because it's the best salon in Buenos Aires. http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/ ** Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15amp;ncid=aolhom000301) ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] New milonga in Buenos Aires
Hola List, There's a fantastic new milonga that recently opened in Boedo, the barrio de tango: Boedo Tango San Juan 3330 4931-4028 Owner: Luis It's a very unusual locale, as it is upstairs from the Carrefour supermarket. A very large (same size as the supermarket below) elegant salon, with 3 wooden dance floors. Beautifully decorated, and perfect for large groups as well as singles and couples. Good music. There is no sign outside, but upstairs it's friendly and welcoming. Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/ ** Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15amp;ncid=aolhom000301) ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Who invented the basic step?
All I can say is that the word music (or musica) doesn't appear in the first 10 pages of the book. That's when I quit reading. Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/ In a message dated 3/25/08 4:15:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, the Dinzels ! Bought their book once, it looked like a treatise on geometry with the illustrations. I am rather poor when it comes to mathematics... All I know about that is the Dinzels came through the US in about 1994, hitting ballroom studios all over, teaching their 'System' which used the eight count basic and a theory of axis. ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l ** Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom000301) ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Bridge to the Tango
The only tango instructional DVDs I recommend are Un Tal Gavito There are 3 in the series. Well worth getting. I'm sure everyone out there has their own favorite. Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/ ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Wiggle
I think what you describe is called by milongueros here in BsAs, armonisacion. Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/ In a message dated 2/12/08 3:10:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was asked, What's a wiggle? I have to confess that see things and feel things in tango, but words will never stick! When I play BB King-style, or Clapton-style blues guitar, it's called vibrato. In tango, can someone help me, here? When I wiggle my partner, I am pivoting our chests back and forth quickly. The effect is to create counter-tortions in her body. The energy transfers down through her body into a wiggle of her free foot. Musically, it feels great to come out of this movement into a back ocho. Anyway, someone else will have to help me, here, with terminology. Then, ask me a month from now, and I won't be able to tell you. :o\ ** The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp0030002565) ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Apts?...Belle Epoque
Hi Jerry, I don't know about this one, but I do know about a cute and cozy and quiet one-bedroom that my tanguero friend Raimundo rents. It's on Corrientes and Junin, very close to El Beso, El Arranque, Porteno. It's $160/wk and includes everything: cable, internet, maid, etc. You can see photos (not the best) on my blog: http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/2007/11/tanguero-apartment-for-rent-milonguero .html In a message dated 1/23/08 1:28:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anybody know anything about these apartments? I've heard several unhappy stories that they are not what they seem. I'm curious because a tanguera friend from Minnesota is planning her first trip to BA and saw the ads for these places on Tango-A. Good deal, bad deal -any feedback would be much appreciated. saludos, Jerry Yahoo! Encuentros. ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Last tango in Bs. As.
Yes, it's tradition, and when La Cumparsita begins, everyone on the floor applauds. It's so lovely. Other traditions are no female singers, and you're correct, it's bad luck to dance to Adios Muchachos. Also Carlos Gardel recordings are never played at milongas in Buenos Aires. Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/ In a message dated 1/20/08 7:04:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been told that traditionally the last song played at a milonga in Buenos Aires is La Cumpasita. A friend of mine, a retiree who has traveled to Bs. As. several times, staying there months on end, said that this is not so. I don't know how often he stayed to the very end. To the people in Bs. As., does this tradition exist? And if it exists, how often is it observed? I've been told that the Porten~o DJs don't play Adios Muchachos because it means you're going to die. Do they think that? ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Milonga 101 -- convers ation between dances
I remember Gavito talking about the men in the center of the floor between tandas making a mushroom. And the men who weren't successful in the cabeceo then went to the bathroom. Times change. http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/ ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Buenos Aires Mystery
Hi Holly, What you experienced is very common: local men think that foreign women don't know the codigos (and many don't), and so approach their tables to ask them to dance. Often these men can't get local women to dance with them. Or they just hope to profit from a newby's first time at a Buenos Aires milonga. The proper response is, no, gracias. Punto final. Please don't worry about it. You were absolutely correct by declining. No explanation necessary. http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/ ** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Taxi dancer service, N YC
Hi Marty, Here's a crazy fantasy I had some time ago, obviously before Homeland Security and the near-impossibility of Argentines getting visas: THE MILAGRO MILONGUERO BUS Apropos of taxi dancers, I have a crazy idea to make American tangueras happy, Argentine milongueros some spare change and a free vacation, and me, rich. I round up fifty of the best male dancers from the milongas in Buenos Aires, arrange for visas and buy them round-trip tickets to the United States, and make sure they have two sets of beautiful clothes and sufficient Italian cologne. From Los Angeles we begin a cross-country bus tour to all the cities with tango communities, selling tickets in advance with lots of promotion and PR on the Internet. Our bus load of milongueros will play from Seattle to Atlanta to New York to Florida at special Milagro Milongas for which a maximum of 50 women must pay $50 each. Local men may attend free. Private lessons may be arranged separately. Cheaper than a trip to Buenos Aires, yet American women can experience the thrill of the real thing, and perhaps American men might learn a thing or two. If the first tour is successful, we can go back for 50 different milongueros, and even go international. The best of both worlds. Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/ ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Susana El Pial DVD
Ron, I have a copy but I can't view it either on my computer or on my all-region DVD player. But I'll be happy to lend it to you. Maybe you can make it work. It plays, but at the wrong speed, with discoordinated sound. (I'll be in the U.S. briefly soon.) Cherie (54) 11 4932-5027 http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/ ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Switching roles
Sometimes near the end of the milonga (Buenos Aires), Ruben and I exchange roles without stopping while dancing, and then switch back. We only go to conservative milongas and everyone knows us, but still, sometimes people look at us in shock. Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/ ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Scenes from the milonga
Dany was at Chique on Thursday as always. He's also the DJ at El Arranque on Mondays. Don't know what happend to him at Celia's. http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/ In a message dated 8/26/07 8:12:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lo de Celia is the place I call my second home. ... Dany Borelli, the best DJ in BsAs, greeted us with a kiss. Viviana at the bar welcomed us. Where's Dany lately? Last weekend the DJ was Viviana, and the music too loud. ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l Cherie (54) 11 4932-5027 http://tangocherie.blogspot.com/ ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
