Angeline the Baker

2009-02-04 Thread Chris Thomas

A couple of guys  I have started to play together and see what
happens.  I am reluctant to use the word band.

But, as of now, it is me and two guys on guitar.  So, in an attempt to
make the most when you have the least we are going to sing a few
verses of Angeline the Baker.

I have googled the lyrics and scanned YouTube.  Is there a recorded
version with lyrics that stands out as definitive recording with
lyrics?  If so, could you point me in the correct direction?

Thanks,

Chris

No mando content here but I saw this live, it was great.  The
clawhammer player has a fretless banjo that he made, it has a Formica
fingerboard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0BcfHZW5CQ



Angelina Baker
From Dwight Diller - Elzics Farewell. In key of D
Angelina Baker, lived near the village green
The way I always loved her, beats all you’ve ever seen
Her father was a baker, they called him Uncle Sam
I never can forget her, no matter where I am
Chorus:
Angelina Baker, age of 43
I gave her candy by the peck, but she wont marry me
Angelina Baker, left me here alone
Left me hear to weep a tear and play on the old jaw bone
Said she couldn’t do hard work, because she was not stout
Baked her biscuits every day, poured her coffee out
Chorus
Sixteen horses in my team, the old grey went before
Almost broke Angelina’s heart, to hear the wagons roll
Angelina Baker, Angeline I know
Wish I’d married Angeline, twenty years ago
Chorus
Bought Angeline a brand new dress, neither black nor brown
It was the colour of a stormy cloud, before the rain pour down
Sixteen horses in my team, the leader he was blind
I came close to dying when they sold my Angeline
Chorus

Angelina Baker. Alternative words
Angelina Baker, age of 23
Prettiest little girl in the whole wide world, but she won’t marry me
Angelina Baker, age of 33
I got down on bended knee, the day she married me
Angelina Baker, age of 43
Chidren playing round her feet, and a banjo on her knee
Angelina Baker, prettiest little girl alive
She says that she’s twenty three, but I know she’s forty five.


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Re: Building a repertoire

2009-02-04 Thread Nelson

Last fall, I played in my first festival, the Tenn. Valley Old Time
Fiddler's Convention, which was once a big deal.  Solley Burton won
and Bobby Nobley came in second.  I was far behind, mainly because of
nerves.  My tune was Methodist Preacher, a hybrid of the one that
Tater posted here with a few changes that I found in different
versions.

The year before, I was in the stands video taping the performers for
reference and someone asked if I planned to play the next year.  Her
advice to me Just play Whiskey Before Breakfast.  Everybody loves
that tune.  No they don't.  It is one that I have a hard time making
myself play for that reason; it has become something of a cliche (at
least to me).

I played a bunch of stuff last night and decided that I am going to
commit to memory the songs that I like to play and that's it.

My first cut, working alphabetically is
Arkansas Traveller
Beaumont Rag
Billy In The Lowground
Black Mountain Rag
Blackberry Blossom (there are some interesting things to do here, I
think)
Cripple Creek
Cumberland Gap (OT-forgive me, but I like the way Ricky Skaggs plays
it on BG Mandolin)
Fisher's Hornpipe
Green Willis
Liberty
Old Joe Clark
Ragtime Annie
Red Haired Boy (sorry, I like it)
Red Wing
Saint Anne's Reel
Sally Ann
Sally Goodin'
Soldier's Joy
Tennessee Waltz (grandpa's favorite)
Texas Gales
Tom and Jerry

Plus some Monroe tunes that I should know like Pike County Breakdown,
Roanoke, etc. and a few Celtic numbers.

On Feb 4, 7:20 am, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:
 There are two tunes that I refuse to play any more. Blackberry Blossom
 and Whiskey Before Breakfast. These tunes are butchered daily at jams
 everywhere and make my skin crawl. I don't mind when folks play
 them... it's fine beer break music.

 But if the point of having a repertoire is to know songs that you can
 play with others, then those two are probably at the top of the
 list.

 Eek! I just looked at that list on mandozine... sure enough, those are
 some of the most popular tunes I've ever heard at jams. And of course
 my two *favorites* are on there. Whatever... learn 'em all and decide
 for yourself which ones you like.

 I'm currently learning a couple tunes for a dance I'll be playing this
 weekend with Mr. Lynn Chirps Smith. I absolutely love Snake River Reel
 and his tune Mississippi Palisades. Also on tap are Cumberland Gap (OT
 version), Little Dutch Girl (which Sadie Compton does a nice version
 of) and Squirrel Heads And Gravy (which I'm finding difficult to
 transfer to mandolin).

 Brian

 On Feb 3, 1:16 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:



  Nelson,
  It seems to me that the list varies depending on where a person hangs
  his hat (which includes geographical location, chosen era of
  'bluegrass', and age group). Dennis comments in jest. I told him once
  that if I had to listen to Red Haired Boy once more time I was going
  to go out and kill something. There are a few more on *that* list as
  well. I will say though, without looking at anyone else's list, that
  some of the more common oldtime fiddle tunes seem to hold up across
  the board, plus there are a few Monroe tunes that seem to carry over.
  I don't think I have a really good grasp of what might be an up-to-
  date list of popular 'bluegrass' tunes because I engage so heavily in
  eclecticism.

  Bugs

  On Feb 3, 1:04 pm, J Hill jason.hi...@gmail.com wrote:

   Nelson,

   Mandozine lists what they consider to be essential mandolin tunes to 
   learn.
   Here's the link:http://www.mandozine.com/music/essential/

   Jason- Hide quoted text -

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Re: Gig bag essential

2009-02-04 Thread Robin Gravina
Now I was wondering when the Spinal Tap quotes would start

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 5:57 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote:


 Sustain.can't you hear the sustain? I'll take two and a fresh
 battery.
 puhtater

 On Feb 3, 8:21 pm, Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
  14strings,
that looks like something I could use, I can't help but wonder if the
 astounding licks goes up to 11 though?
 
 
 
  
  From: 14strings perrypale...@gmail.com
  To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 4:36:55 PM
  Subject: Gig bag essential
 
  For those who have to plug in once in a while I just posted an
  essential tool in the file section
 
  http://taterbugmando.googlegroups.com/web/Simulator-2%20copy.jpg?gda=...
 


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Re: Building a repertoire

2009-02-04 Thread Dasspunk

I will tell Chirps howdy for you Val.

I've learned a number of tunes just to learn 'em and they've not been
heard from since. I'm sure I'm not alone. Then there are tunes that
I've tried learning only to find I don't care for my version :)
Cumberland Gap was one such tune. I don't care for the 'Grass version
but when I heard Chirps' version, I totally loved it (and talk him
into playing it as often as possible). Arkansas Traveler was the
same... until I heard Rhys Jone's version... now I love it. It took me
forever to find a Sally Goodin I liked... mine's somewhere between
Bill's with a hint of Clarence White. I try and steal from the best
(emphasis on try).

Long story only slightly longer...  you never know what you'll like
tomorrow.

Brian



On Feb 4, 11:27 am, Val Mindel vmin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Say hi to Chirps for me. He has great tunes. He plays a really good
 Greensleeves (not the tune you think), with the G run down to E. And
 is no slouch on mandolin.

 On Feb 4, 8:20 am, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:

  There are two tunes that I refuse to play any more. Blackberry Blossom
  and Whiskey Before Breakfast. These tunes are butchered daily at jams
  everywhere and make my skin crawl. I don't mind when folks play
  them... it's fine beer break music.

  But if the point of having a repertoire is to know songs that you can
  play with others, then those two are probably at the top of the
  list.

  Eek! I just looked at that list on mandozine... sure enough, those are
  some of the most popular tunes I've ever heard at jams. And of course
  my two *favorites* are on there. Whatever... learn 'em all and decide
  for yourself which ones you like.

  I'm currently learning a couple tunes for a dance I'll be playing this
  weekend with Mr. Lynn Chirps Smith. I absolutely love Snake River Reel
  and his tune Mississippi Palisades. Also on tap are Cumberland Gap (OT
  version), Little Dutch Girl (which Sadie Compton does a nice version
  of) and Squirrel Heads And Gravy (which I'm finding difficult to
  transfer to mandolin).

  Brian

  On Feb 3, 1:16 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:

   Nelson,
   It seems to me that the list varies depending on where a person hangs
   his hat (which includes geographical location, chosen era of
   'bluegrass', and age group). Dennis comments in jest. I told him once
   that if I had to listen to Red Haired Boy once more time I was going
   to go out and kill something. There are a few more on *that* list as
   well. I will say though, without looking at anyone else's list, that
   some of the more common oldtime fiddle tunes seem to hold up across
   the board, plus there are a few Monroe tunes that seem to carry over.
   I don't think I have a really good grasp of what might be an up-to-
   date list of popular 'bluegrass' tunes because I engage so heavily in
   eclecticism.

   Bugs

   On Feb 3, 1:04 pm, J Hill jason.hi...@gmail.com wrote:

Nelson,

Mandozine lists what they consider to be essential mandolin tunes to 
learn.
Here's the link:http://www.mandozine.com/music/essential/

Jason
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Re: Building a repertoire

2009-02-04 Thread mistertaterbug

Howdy Erik,
Agreed...if I don't like a tune, it's my own doing, nobody else's. If
I don't like a performance of it, as Brian says, it's usually my
performance that I don't like. David Grier says that there are no
songs that suck, just that MY version sucks. Too funny, and
conveniently, impossible to argue with that logic. My interest or lack
thereof in songs/tunes absolutely influences my execution of them.
Those songs that always bring the house down, and there's a reason for
it. As I mentioned earlier, if we could find out what that thing is,
we'd all be millionaires. I suspect that a major factor in it is that
the tunes are familiar to the masses.

I don't particularly care for all of Monroe's output either. I find
Tombstone Junction to be downright silly, but most everybody I've
run into thinks it's cool, so kick me in the shins. Whatever.

Nelson, nobody here EVER said Skaggs can't play/sing. To the contrary,
I'd say he's got an awful lot of chops to work with.

Taterboy

On Feb 4, 12:14 pm, MinnesotaMandolin eberr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi there, I'm a long-time lurker brought out of my shell by this
 discussion.

 My band plays 98% original music with a few covers. We only play
 traditional fiddle tunes as string changing songs when someone pops a
 string. Most of the guys aren't much interested in learning new ones
 so we've been playing Whiskey before Breakfast, Red Haired Boy and Old
 Joe Clark for literally years. It always brings the house down. I'm
 sick to death of WBB but just the other day we did it to great aplomb.
 So the question is who's really got the problem with WBB? I do, that's
 who.

 how little are the other guys interested? I can't even get them to
 fake Jenny Lynn with me and it's only got one chord! We worked up
 those three fiddle tunes early in our career and there you go.

 cheers,
 erik

 On Feb 4, 11:27 am, Val Mindel vmin...@gmail.com wrote:

  Say hi to Chirps for me. He has great tunes. He plays a really good
  Greensleeves (not the tune you think), with the G run down to E. And
  is no slouch on mandolin.

  On Feb 4, 8:20 am, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:

   There are two tunes that I refuse to play any more. Blackberry Blossom
   and Whiskey Before Breakfast. These tunes are butchered daily at jams
   everywhere and make my skin crawl. I don't mind when folks play
   them... it's fine beer break music.

   But if the point of having a repertoire is to know songs that you can
   play with others, then those two are probably at the top of the
   list.

   Eek! I just looked at that list on mandozine... sure enough, those are
   some of the most popular tunes I've ever heard at jams. And of course
   my two *favorites* are on there. Whatever... learn 'em all and decide
   for yourself which ones you like.

   I'm currently learning a couple tunes for a dance I'll be playing this
   weekend with Mr. Lynn Chirps Smith. I absolutely love Snake River Reel
   and his tune Mississippi Palisades. Also on tap are Cumberland Gap (OT
   version), Little Dutch Girl (which Sadie Compton does a nice version
   of) and Squirrel Heads And Gravy (which I'm finding difficult to
   transfer to mandolin).

   Brian

   On Feb 3, 1:16 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:

Nelson,
It seems to me that the list varies depending on where a person hangs
his hat (which includes geographical location, chosen era of
'bluegrass', and age group). Dennis comments in jest. I told him once
that if I had to listen to Red Haired Boy once more time I was going
to go out and kill something. There are a few more on *that* list as
well. I will say though, without looking at anyone else's list, that
some of the more common oldtime fiddle tunes seem to hold up across
the board, plus there are a few Monroe tunes that seem to carry over.
I don't think I have a really good grasp of what might be an up-to-
date list of popular 'bluegrass' tunes because I engage so heavily in
eclecticism.

Bugs

On Feb 3, 1:04 pm, J Hill jason.hi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nelson,

 Mandozine lists what they consider to be essential mandolin tunes to 
 learn.
 Here's the link:http://www.mandozine.com/music/essential/

 Jason- Hide quoted text -

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Re: Gig bag essential

2009-02-04 Thread Trey Young
What's this Spinal Tap I seriously need equipment that goes to 11...
 
 





From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 2:06:17 PM
Subject: Re: Gig bag essential


Whoops. Caught me...
Tater

On Feb 4, 12:05 pm, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
 Now I was wondering when the Spinal Tap quotes would start

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 5:57 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote:



  Sustain.can't you hear the sustain? I'll take two and a fresh
  battery.
  puhtater

  On Feb 3, 8:21 pm, Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
   14strings,
     that looks like something I could use, I can't help but wonder if the
  astounding licks goes up to 11 though?

   
   From: 14strings perrypale...@gmail.com
   To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 4:36:55 PM
   Subject: Gig bag essential

   For those who have to plug in once in a while I just posted an
   essential tool in the file section

  http://taterbugmando.googlegroups.com/web/Simulator-2%20copy.jpg?gda=...


  
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Re: Gig bag essential

2009-02-04 Thread Topher Gayle

I just ordered three of these things. Now if I can only find a Clam
Filter stomp box I'll be all set!

Topher


On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
 What's this Spinal Tap I seriously need equipment that goes to 11...



 
 From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
 To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 2:06:17 PM
 Subject: Re: Gig bag essential


 Whoops. Caught me...
 Tater

 On Feb 4, 12:05 pm, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
 Now I was wondering when the Spinal Tap quotes would start

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 5:57 PM, mistertaterbug
 taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote:



  Sustain.can't you hear the sustain? I'll take two and a fresh
  battery.
  puhtater

  On Feb 3, 8:21 pm, Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
   14strings,
 that looks like something I could use, I can't help but wonder if
   the
  astounding licks goes up to 11 though?

   
   From: 14strings perrypale...@gmail.com
   To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 4:36:55 PM
   Subject: Gig bag essential

   For those who have to plug in once in a while I just posted an
   essential tool in the file section

 
   http://taterbugmando.googlegroups.com/web/Simulator-2%20copy.jpg?gda=...

 


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Re: Building a repertoire

2009-02-04 Thread Mike Romkey

 As for The Merry Blacksmith, has anyone every seen the E.T. Paull
 sheetmusic cover for it? Killer...
 Tater

Do you mean The Jolly Blacksmith's, circa 1905? Are they the same
tune? Or are you making sport? I uploaded an image to the files vault
here.
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Re: Building a repertoire

2009-02-04 Thread Mike Romkey

For the truly obsessive-compulsive reader of these threads, below is a
link to an archive copy of Paull. As his name appears to have too many
Ls, this score appears, to my amateur eye, to have too many notes to
be the aforementioned Merry Blacksmith.

http://digitum.washingtonhistory.org/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/musicCISOPTR=114REC=12


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Re: Building a repertoire

2009-02-04 Thread Nelson

For more info on The Merry Blacksmith, see 
http://www.ibiblio.org/fiddlers/MER_MIC.htm.


On Feb 4, 5:09 pm, Chris Thomas christopher.s.tho...@cox.net wrote:
  What would you all say are the must know tunes for a basic bluegrass
  mandolin player's basic repertoire?  I am looking for fiddle tunes,

 Here are the some basic fiddle tunes that I have found somewhat
 universal for most any jam.  Some of them DO get old, but the must
 know list is the one that most begineers will familier with.

 -Red-Haired Boy
 -Old Joe Clark
 -Cripple Creek (begineer banjo players will want to play it in G)
 -Bill Cheathem
 -Whiskey Before Breakfast
 -Blackberry Blossom
 -St. Anne's Reel
 -Turkey in the Straw
 -Soldiers Joy
 -Angeline the Baker
 -Ragtime Annie
 -Bluegrass Stomp
 -Liberty
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