Re: Building a repertoire

2009-02-05 Thread Val Mindel 

For an amazing version of an old standard, get Chirps to play
Soldier's Joy. You're right though, it sometimes takes hearing one of
these oft-done tunes rendered by different hands to really get what
made it so special in the first place.

On Feb 4, 1:09 pm, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:
 I will tell Chirps howdy for you Val.

 I've learned a number of tunes just to learn 'em and they've not been
 heard from since. I'm sure I'm not alone. Then there are tunes that
 I've tried learning only to find I don't care for my version :)
 Cumberland Gap was one such tune. I don't care for the 'Grass version
 but when I heard Chirps' version, I totally loved it (and talk him
 into playing it as often as possible). Arkansas Traveler was the
 same... until I heard Rhys Jone's version... now I love it. It took me
 forever to find a Sally Goodin I liked... mine's somewhere between
 Bill's with a hint of Clarence White. I try and steal from the best
 (emphasis on try).

 Long story only slightly longer...  you never know what you'll like
 tomorrow.

 Brian

 On Feb 4, 11:27 am, Val Mindel vmin...@gmail.com wrote:

  Say hi to Chirps for me. He has great tunes. He plays a really good
  Greensleeves (not the tune you think), with the G run down to E. And
  is no slouch on mandolin.

  On Feb 4, 8:20 am, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:

   There are two tunes that I refuse to play any more. Blackberry Blossom
   and Whiskey Before Breakfast. These tunes are butchered daily at jams
   everywhere and make my skin crawl. I don't mind when folks play
   them... it's fine beer break music.

   But if the point of having a repertoire is to know songs that you can
   play with others, then those two are probably at the top of the
   list.

   Eek! I just looked at that list on mandozine... sure enough, those are
   some of the most popular tunes I've ever heard at jams. And of course
   my two *favorites* are on there. Whatever... learn 'em all and decide
   for yourself which ones you like.

   I'm currently learning a couple tunes for a dance I'll be playing this
   weekend with Mr. Lynn Chirps Smith. I absolutely love Snake River Reel
   and his tune Mississippi Palisades. Also on tap are Cumberland Gap (OT
   version), Little Dutch Girl (which Sadie Compton does a nice version
   of) and Squirrel Heads And Gravy (which I'm finding difficult to
   transfer to mandolin).

   Brian

   On Feb 3, 1:16 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:

Nelson,
It seems to me that the list varies depending on where a person hangs
his hat (which includes geographical location, chosen era of
'bluegrass', and age group). Dennis comments in jest. I told him once
that if I had to listen to Red Haired Boy once more time I was going
to go out and kill something. There are a few more on *that* list as
well. I will say though, without looking at anyone else's list, that
some of the more common oldtime fiddle tunes seem to hold up across
the board, plus there are a few Monroe tunes that seem to carry over.
I don't think I have a really good grasp of what might be an up-to-
date list of popular 'bluegrass' tunes because I engage so heavily in
eclecticism.

Bugs

On Feb 3, 1:04 pm, J Hill jason.hi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nelson,

 Mandozine lists what they consider to be essential mandolin tunes to 
 learn.
 Here's the link:http://www.mandozine.com/music/essential/

 Jason
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Re: Building a repertoire

2009-02-05 Thread mistertaterbug 

I agree with you, Val. Going back to the source is a noble calling and
full of rewards. Try going back and listening to Eck Robertson's
version of Sally Goodin. No need to look further. Some tunes, say
Grey Eagle for one, were even in different keys than they are done
these days.

Tater

On Feb 5, 6:41 am, Val Mindel vmin...@gmail.com wrote:
 For an amazing version of an old standard, get Chirps to play
 Soldier's Joy. You're right though, it sometimes takes hearing one of
 these oft-done tunes rendered by different hands to really get what
 made it so special in the first place.

 On Feb 4, 1:09 pm, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:

  I will tell Chirps howdy for you Val.

  I've learned a number of tunes just to learn 'em and they've not been
  heard from since. I'm sure I'm not alone. Then there are tunes that
  I've tried learning only to find I don't care for my version :)
  Cumberland Gap was one such tune. I don't care for the 'Grass version
  but when I heard Chirps' version, I totally loved it (and talk him
  into playing it as often as possible). Arkansas Traveler was the
  same... until I heard Rhys Jone's version... now I love it. It took me
  forever to find a Sally Goodin I liked... mine's somewhere between
  Bill's with a hint of Clarence White. I try and steal from the best
  (emphasis on try).

  Long story only slightly longer...  you never know what you'll like
  tomorrow.

  Brian

  On Feb 4, 11:27 am, Val Mindel vmin...@gmail.com wrote:

   Say hi to Chirps for me. He has great tunes. He plays a really good
   Greensleeves (not the tune you think), with the G run down to E. And
   is no slouch on mandolin.

   On Feb 4, 8:20 am, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:

There are two tunes that I refuse to play any more. Blackberry Blossom
and Whiskey Before Breakfast. These tunes are butchered daily at jams
everywhere and make my skin crawl. I don't mind when folks play
them... it's fine beer break music.

But if the point of having a repertoire is to know songs that you can
play with others, then those two are probably at the top of the
list.

Eek! I just looked at that list on mandozine... sure enough, those are
some of the most popular tunes I've ever heard at jams. And of course
my two *favorites* are on there. Whatever... learn 'em all and decide
for yourself which ones you like.

I'm currently learning a couple tunes for a dance I'll be playing this
weekend with Mr. Lynn Chirps Smith. I absolutely love Snake River Reel
and his tune Mississippi Palisades. Also on tap are Cumberland Gap (OT
version), Little Dutch Girl (which Sadie Compton does a nice version
of) and Squirrel Heads And Gravy (which I'm finding difficult to
transfer to mandolin).

Brian

On Feb 3, 1:16 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nelson,
 It seems to me that the list varies depending on where a person hangs
 his hat (which includes geographical location, chosen era of
 'bluegrass', and age group). Dennis comments in jest. I told him once
 that if I had to listen to Red Haired Boy once more time I was going
 to go out and kill something. There are a few more on *that* list as
 well. I will say though, without looking at anyone else's list, that
 some of the more common oldtime fiddle tunes seem to hold up across
 the board, plus there are a few Monroe tunes that seem to carry over.
 I don't think I have a really good grasp of what might be an up-to-
 date list of popular 'bluegrass' tunes because I engage so heavily in
 eclecticism.

 Bugs

 On Feb 3, 1:04 pm, J Hill jason.hi...@gmail.com wrote:

  Nelson,

  Mandozine lists what they consider to be essential mandolin tunes 
  to learn.
  Here's the link:http://www.mandozine.com/music/essential/

  Jason
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Re: Building a repertoire

2009-02-05 Thread Nelson 

I started doing this after looking through books of arrangements, and
wondering about the original.  When I first look up a tune to learn, I
look at The Mandolin Players Fakebook  Stacy Phillip's Book of
Fiddle Tunes and use the Fiddler's Companion website.  I like the idea
of trying to take the tune back to it's origin.

Nelson

On Feb 5, 1:01 pm, sec...@bellsouth.net wrote:
  I agree wholeheartedly about the rewards in doing this. Collecting some 
 obscure fiddle tunes has been something of a hobby for me, lately. The 
 Digital Library of Appalachia is an excellent source. Try Polish My Shoes in 
 the Middle of the Week. Good stuff.
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 taterbugmu...@gmail.com: --





  I agree with you, Val. Going back to the source is a noble calling and
  full of rewards. Try going back and listening to Eck Robertson's
  version of Sally Goodin. No need to look further. Some tunes, say
  Grey Eagle for one, were even in different keys than they are done
  these days.

  Tater

  On Feb 5, 6:41 am, Val Mindel  wrote:
   For an amazing version of an old standard, get Chirps to play
   Soldier's Joy. You're right though, it sometimes takes hearing one of
   these oft-done tunes rendered by different hands to really get what
   made it so special in the first place.

   On Feb 4, 1:09 pm, Dasspunk  wrote:

I will tell Chirps howdy for you Val.

I've learned a number of tunes just to learn 'em and they've not been
heard from since. I'm sure I'm not alone. Then there are tunes that
I've tried learning only to find I don't care for my version :)
Cumberland Gap was one such tune. I don't care for the 'Grass version
but when I heard Chirps' version, I totally loved it (and talk him
into playing it as often as possible). Arkansas Traveler was the
same... until I heard Rhys Jone's version... now I love it. It took me
forever to find a Sally Goodin I liked... mine's somewhere between
Bill's with a hint of Clarence White. I try and steal from the best
(emphasis on try).

Long story only slightly longer...  you never know what you'll like
tomorrow.

Brian

On Feb 4, 11:27 am, Val Mindel  wrote:

 Say hi to Chirps for me. He has great tunes. He plays a really good
 Greensleeves (not the tune you think), with the G run down to E. And
 is no slouch on mandolin.

 On Feb 4, 8:20 am, Dasspunk  wrote:

  There are two tunes that I refuse to play any more. Blackberry 
  Blossom
  and Whiskey Before Breakfast. These tunes are butchered daily at 
  jams
  everywhere and make my skin crawl. I don't mind when folks play
  them... it's fine beer break music.

  But if the point of having a repertoire is to know songs that you 
  can
  play with others, then those two are probably at the top of the
  list.

  Eek! I just looked at that list on mandozine... sure enough, those 
  are
  some of the most popular tunes I've ever heard at jams. And of 
  course
  my two *favorites* are on there. Whatever... learn 'em all and 
  decide
  for yourself which ones you like.

  I'm currently learning a couple tunes for a dance I'll be playing 
  this
  weekend with Mr. Lynn Chirps Smith. I absolutely love Snake River 
  Reel
  and his tune Mississippi Palisades. Also on tap are Cumberland Gap 
  (OT
  version), Little Dutch Girl (which Sadie Compton does a nice version
  of) and Squirrel Heads And Gravy (which I'm finding difficult to
  transfer to mandolin).

  Brian

  On Feb 3, 1:16 pm, mistertaterbug  wrote:

   Nelson,
   It seems to me that the list varies depending on where a person 
   hangs
   his hat (which includes geographical location, chosen era of
   'bluegrass', and age group). Dennis comments in jest. I told him 
   once
   that if I had to listen to Red Haired Boy once more time I was 
   going
   to go out and kill something. There are a few more on *that* list 
   as
   well. I will say though, without looking at anyone else's list, 
   that
   some of the more common oldtime fiddle tunes seem to hold up 
   across
   the board, plus there are a few Monroe tunes that seem to carry 
   over.
   I don't think I have a really good grasp of what might be an 
   up-to-
   date list of popular 'bluegrass' tunes because I engage so 
   heavily in
   eclecticism.

   Bugs

   On Feb 3, 1:04 pm, J Hill  wrote:

Nelson,

Mandozine lists what they consider to be essential mandolin 
tunes to
  learn.
Here's the link:http://www.mandozine.com/music/essential/

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Re: Building a repertoire

2009-02-05 Thread Mike Hoffmann 
nelson, can you say same page!ha!
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Re: Building a repertoire

2009-02-05 Thread Nelson 

Same page!  No matter how many versions of a tune I get my hands on, I
am always on the lookout for a better version  Don't know why...

I like the Mandolin Fakebook as well.  The reason I use the Fiddler's
book instead is that I can scan the notes into Finale and mess around
with the arrangement and listen to the tune at different tempos, etc.



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 nelson, can you say same page!ha!
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2009-02-05 Thread secsc2 







 

Pretty sure I know what happened to all those lost Arnold Schultz recordings. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbJgAthnTo4NR=1