Re: Mandolin Symposium
I cannot recommend this enough; the time there w/Tater was one of the funnest and good times had. If you can swing it, swing it!! RF in MN On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like our fearless leader is headed to the left coast again this year! http://www.mandolinsymposium.com/symposium2011/ M -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comtaterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: My own self-imposed silliness
Fred! Hope you are well :) The drive home this evening in the MN Snow was pretty brutal! ;) On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Fred Keller fkel...@scicable.net wrote: Last week I started a project through my blog (www.fredkellermando.com): write a song a week for a month. A modicum of self discipline never hurt and this way I hope to expand my repertoire too. So week two starts Monday and I haven't gotten any suggestions from the interwebs like I did for week one. The first week's suggestions and result are posted on the blog. Anyone care to have something brutaliz--er, immortalized in song? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comtaterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: happy Birthday spud man
HAPPY HAPPY B-DAY SPUD KING - RF On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.comwrote: Happy Birthday! I heard you were thinking of starting to take the mandolin seriously this year ;-) 2010/3/1, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com: I'll bring the cake where we meeting? On Mar 1, 9:07 am, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote: I think both is appropriate just to cover all your bases. Happy Birthday Tater! M On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote: For the leap year challenged, do you celebrate the 28th or March 1st on non leap year years? On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:45 AM, 14strings perrypale...@gmail.com wrote: Happy Bithday Mike! Add an extra 10 minutes to the elipitcal to make up for the cake ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comtaterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com taterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@goog legroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. -- My CD of original tunes played on mandolin, mandola, and mandocello http://www.HillbillyChamberMusic.com http://www.hillbillychambermusic.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comtaterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com taterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@goog legroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comtaterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. -- Enviado desde mi dispositivo móvil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comtaterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: Check out this guys technique
check one two...is this mic on?? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Taterbugmando" group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: Check out this guys technique
Nice! Having seen Hedges many times over the span of his career; I think that this was a technique (one of many) he used to make expressive music; And end to a mean if you willto quote Hedges himself You may impress a guitar player with that , but your not going to win your girlfriend's heart with that (laughing). On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com wrote: My boss was sent this oddly enough on his facebook page and I was blown away by the co-oincidence... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLD0pxflAM8 one of the first slappers I enjoyed this performance but don't know that I could stand a whole show/album of it. 1997 other videos of years before this though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comtaterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: Check out this guys technique
My oh my! Tater's post got me (another middle aged #$%^) to watch the video; pardon the term but what a pile. Talent, yes but maturity of the style is seriously lacking. At least IMHO. I suppose the style itself is about due to come back around but why butcher a song like that? If you like technique like that look to Michael Hedges, Stanley Jordan or Tuck Andress (please!) RF in MN On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Alexander, Jeffrey jeffrey.alexan...@louisvilleky.gov wrote: Amen Tater, amen. -Original Message- From: mistertaterbug [mailto:taterbugmu...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 9:39 PM To: Taterbugmando Subject: Re: Check out this guys technique Thanks Neal, for your helpful and open-minded comments. I am curious what your age is? Let me tell you how I see it, beings I'm the one that started this curmudgeonly message board... Sure, the kid has chops. Nobody can deny that, nobody has. There's no telling how much time/effort/money he's spent getting to this place in his artistry. Yes, he is following his muse and probably engaged in doing what he thinks will sell his face to the festival circuit. The techniques the kid uses are not new. Even I know that, as old and curmudgeonly and out-of-date as I am. I don't possess the kind of chops this kid has. Hell, I can barely do what I do. But I think the one thing that is missing in this presentation is believability. The next link was a version by Howling Wolf. Howling Wolf's version is crude, even simple-minded by comparison(if I were to be so stupid as to compare the two as being remotely the same thing), but the Wolf's version has something in spades that the kid doesn't have and that's believability. Howling Wolf's lived on the hard road and you can hear it in his voice, in his presentation. He has nothing to prove. While the kid is brilliant and obviously gifted, he needs to live a while before he's got anything but flash to give the rest of us. Once he does, I'm sure he'll be hard to ignore when he has something to say. Right now he's throwing everything he has into the mix all at once. To him, it's about the show, not the message. A real serious thing happened to me when the first of my two kids was laid in my hands just a few minutes after birth. It became readily apparent that the wet and wriggling kid was something very serious and real and that I had surrounded myself with a lot of superficial bullshit prior to that event. So, pretty much right then my attitude changed from being overly apologetic and worrying about pleasing everybody to seeing a narrow corridor lined on both sides with things that aren't useful to me or don't support my way of life, my religious beliefs, my moral code, my artistic tastes, ad infinitum. It has been hard for me to start being more open to what other people have to say, musically or otherwise, but I do make the effort. I listen to a lot of music from all over the world because I want to know what's out there. Seems most every other person on the planet is getting along real fine without my way of doing things. That's cool by me. But even with the wide array of styles, most unfamiliar to me, I can hear some purpose there, something real. I also know that on this list of what you so freely call middle-aged curmudgeons are quite a few men and women who have taken a lot of really hard knocks and are still standing, still dreaming, still striving to live good lives. It takes something real and honest to get a curmudgeon's attention. No flash will do it, no shallow words. Speaking strictly for myself, gimme something real I can bite into or don't waste my time. I don't have as much time left as I once did and I don't choose to spend what I do have left indulging in activities that don't speak to me or deal with people who have a continuing negative impact on my days. So, while young Mister Champagne is loaded with licks, right now it comes across to me as gimmicks. Maybe if I sat down and talked to the guy and got to know him I might find he's really cool and sincere and I might understand what he's up to and I might even hear what he's trying to say, but right now all I get from him is, to quote you again, a bunch of noise. And that, without apology, is fine too. Mistertaterbug On Dec 6, 12:50 am, Neal nealrcl...@gmail.com wrote: don't apologize. my god, sounds like there's nothing but a bunch of curmudgeonly 50 year old men on this board. a bunch of noise...ha. i mean, it's not my style either, but don't act like this kid doesn't have talent. thanks linda. neal On Dec 5, 10:43 pm, Linda lj...@intas.net.au wrote: Now my face is red... ha I could have put a link to one the young man wrote himself...would have been a better idea. Thanks for this link...now that is a tune!! Somebody needed to tell me..thanks.. linda On Dec 6, 4:04 pm, Tud Jones tudjo...@gmail.com wrote: Here
Re: please take me off your mail list
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comtaterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Carl Garbe ccg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi, Nothing personal, but I've been trying to get out of this group, would you please make it so I get no more mail? thanks, Carl --- On *Tue, 10/20/09, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com* wrote: From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: My Dad is getting married! To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 1:53 PM Clyde, You be nice to Ken. Bugs On Oct 17, 4:32 pm, mandoho...@comcast.nethttp://us.mc1803.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mandoho...@comcast.netwrote: My dad, Ken Cartwright, is getting married tomorrow on the radio/internet. Just find KENC at 1 PM pacific time tomorrow. Some of you may know Ken as Mandomedic. I'm just amazed that he could find someone to take him ;) http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/10/stayton_radio_statio... Clyde Clevenger Just My Opinion, But It's Right Salem, Oregon Old Circle --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Family Bands
Sister Bands rule! aka The Roches...creepy, no? Neurotic? probably! :) On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 5:28 AM, taurodont jgardin...@roadrunner.com wrote: I own the Sweetback Sisters Chicken Cd and enjoy it. Tell her good work. John On Oct 6, 9:43 am, Val Mindel vmin...@gmail.com wrote: H creepy? I've worked with my daughter (Emily Miller) since she was 15 (she's 27 now). Mostly we teach harmony singing and do the odd weekend workshop together as well as sporadic house concerts (Emily, her boyfriend Jesse Milnes and I are in Ottawa on Thursday if anyone is interested). It's tricky sometimes, family dynamics being what they are, but I wouldn't call it creepy. I don't think of her as family so much as a really great singer who is fun to sing with and who has an impeccable sense of harmony. And she and her band (the Sweetback Sisters) do appear to be making waves. She's a good fiddler and guitar player, but I can't say that's down to my making her practice, which I never did. More likely it's because she was drawn to the music and has spent lots of time playing and hanging out with great musicians, and she's heard it all her life. I think the whole family did do a few gigs when we were in Asia as a family band but that was more to fulfill a specific need for an organizer. Getting teens (or husbands) to practice for something like that is way too much trouble. But despite the DNA connections in my musical life, I know what you mean. It's difficult to witness the stage parent syndrome. I've taught fiddle and some guitar as well as singing, but I don't teach kids unless they are old enough to approach me themselves for lessons, and I keep the parents out of it entirely. But if we discarded the notion of families playing (and performing) together we'd be shutting off a huge part of traditional music ... in my view, of course. On Oct 5, 1:31 pm, Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote: The recent article on the cafe about a family band got me thinking: Anybody else find the whole family band thing kinda' creepy. All of them I've seen have through the years always brought out the feeling that something's not quite right with them--no matter how wholesome they seem. Maybe it's just me- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mike and David Radio Interview
Seems this thread confirms that Grier (like the rest of us) is human. I suspect he'd confirm this as well, we all have moments we shine and moments we are surly. Hopefully more in the light. I suspect Grier wouldn't deny this and from my limited view he seems a well studied and reasonable man who can certainly show humility. Now, Can we say the same for Skaggs?! ;) RF in MN On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Petimar p...@petimarpress.com wrote: On Oct 6, 8:08 am, Bill Burnette bburne...@gmail.com wrote: Haven't taken any lessons since- not sure I agree with his assessment though- still seems I'm missing something... Bill My bet is you could still learn a LOT from Roland if you went back to him. I've read all your posts on this (David Greer) subject with interest. I want you to answer us honestly, when someone has come to you for help at your work, were you always very polite to EVERYONE? I know I've not always been, and I'm not proud of that. Every once in a while, we all say something we probably would not say if we got a bit of a chance to think about it. I'm not a guitar player, but I am so fascinated by the obvious amount of work and study David Greer has put in to his craft that I go every time he does a workshop around my area. I've always learned something. In the 10 or so of these I've attended, he has always been nice, but honest when he has answered questions. Of course I wasn't there to hear the comment you refered to. Like all things, sometimes one thing means something to one individual and something entirely different to something else. Could also be maybe David thought that person would get the most out of a blunt answer. Ducking for cover now :-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mike and David Radio Interview
Tell us how you really feel! heheh! :) On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:42 AM, 14strings perrypale...@gmail.com wrote: To me the biggest benefit of a workshop is witnessing the sound your teacher makes with his/her instrument in a small room. If it's intimate enough there is nothing like sitting a few feet away from the player and his instrument. Aside from that I've learned very little at workshops often because teachers are usually too willing to teach down to the lowest common demoninator in the class. I applaud a teacher's POLITE unwillingness to address questions that should not be asked. If you don't know the blues scale should you be sitting in a workshop with a known blues master? Heck I didn't pay $75 clams to have the teacher tell you what a flatted third is. And while I'm at can you teachers tell those noodlers in class to shut the !...@$@#% up! :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Compton and Grier - Oct 3rd - Madison, WI
Where are the Mad-Town Reviews already?! ;-) On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, Since Trent ain't bought a ticket yet (coughslaker/cough), I'll save him $5 and just tell him to pay you the $15 for your ticket. You will them of course be scalping your ticket for a penny profit. You dig? Huggy Bear On Oct 3, 10:08 am, Mike Hedding michaelhedd...@gmail.com wrote: I bought a ticket to the Madison show but can't make it if anyone wants it it's up for grabs. Mike Hedding On Oct 3, 2009, at 8:20 AM, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote: Word on the street is that the Midwest shows are going very well... Well, tonight Mike and David will be in Madison, WI and its VERY likely we'll be sold out when all is said and done. We sold over 60 advance tickets... If you were planning on coming to the show and don't have tickets, I'd get there as early as possible. Here's the info again... Saturday, October 3rd @ 7pm The Wil-Mar Center 953 Jenifer St, Madison, WI Info:http://deadmessenger.com See you at the show! Brian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Compton and Grier - Oct 3rd - Madison, WI
Run!, Don't Walk to Madison, The rumors are true the Midwest is getting a nice tour; the boys are playing well, Mike really hit his stride last night! Huge thank you to Fred and the Whistlepigs for their efforts in making this a reality in St. Paul. They played a nice hot intro set last night with Fred representing well! Then Compton/Grier did two fine diverse sets. Tater's Dola was sounding (and looked) outstanding! Old Mountaineer and Methodist Preacher were sure nice to hear; their final number almost blew the roof off the Stepping Stone as well. I can assure you a great time will be had in Madison, enjoy! RF in MN Huge thank On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Mike Hedding michaelhedd...@gmail.comwrote: I'll second the shows going well. Saw them in st Paul last night. Not a lot of Monroe tunes but a lot of bluesy stuff it was nice to truly see all that mike can do. Mike Hedding On Oct 3, 2009, at 8:20 AM, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote: Word on the street is that the Midwest shows are going very well... Well, tonight Mike and David will be in Madison, WI and its VERY likely we'll be sold out when all is said and done. We sold over 60 advance tickets... If you were planning on coming to the show and don't have tickets, I'd get there as early as possible. Here's the info again... Saturday, October 3rd @ 7pm The Wil-Mar Center 953 Jenifer St, Madison, WI Info: http://deadmessenger.com See you at the show! Brian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Skaggs CD
Wow, what a thread! :) I love this group for the honest discussion that can be had. I can't and won't pretend to be able to speak to anyone's concerns but only share my observations with a bit of a tangent Sometimes our musical stars are not quite like we imagine them to be in our own head or how they present themselves to the public. I get this and accept as we are all human (even those w/a modicum of fame) On the one hand I really don't give a rip what the person is like it's there music I enjoy; but this isn't always honest either b/c on some level the person behind the music does influence, no? Though there are plenty of musicians I love the music of and have never met; I do understand that sometimes they weren't always the nicest people. I remember attending one of the early Mando Symposiums and upon arriving I was a complete awe struck Dawg admirer but by week's end I was leaving a total convert of Tater. Why? Dawg certainly wasn't rude or rock star like but he also wasn't necessarily what I'd imagined in my head. Tater was someone I was familiar with but left with a HUGE appreciation for b/c I saw the measure of the man you could say. He was genuine and true to his words and lives it. What does any of this mean; hell if I know. But Nelson, I for one appreciate MC's insights and knowledge that far exceed my own. At the same time I know he's honest and sincere when he says to follow your heart. By darn it if Skaggs is your guy then don't be bashful, I'm sure Tater wouldn't want that. Surely your conviction can withstand some ribbin? I hope so. The beauty of this list is you can fire your own rib shot back and smile. Now someboyd queue up WAR's Why Can't We Be Friends and lets get back to pickin! RF in MN On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 9:10 AM, malagrass malayt...@bellsouth.net wrote: Tater-agitator-taterbug. I love you man.. I have a few of Ricky's CD's and have enjoyed his talent through the years but i've heard some stuff that Ricky said at Bills funeral about carrying the torch and i'm still completely turned off. But since then I have bought his cd's and even went to see him once in Bristol. Man his timing was wyy bad but thats another subject. So I guess i'm on the fence.as usual. The entire political thing in BG seems like its pretty brutal but mr. tater, keep in mind you are the man and I personally like, look up to and try to emulate what you do. Which is more than I can say for Ricky's style. BigMalagrass. On Sep 27, 2:41 am, mandoho...@comcast.net wrote: Hot damn! This is almost as good as the Jerry Springer show. (not that I ever watched) I was looking for the fat girl to take a swing at Tater any minute. I like Ricky just like I liked Jimmy Martin, but neither of them share my values so I wouldn't want to take them home, but I'll sure as hell buy their music. Clyde Clevenger Just My Opinion, But It's Right Salem, Oregon Old Circle --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Skaggs CD
at their front door. I was told to do the same thing and did. I didn't get much time to hang out with Monroe, and seriously, found out there was a lot about his personality that I didn't like, which was sad. It is truly best, IMO, to keep one's heroes at arm's length. But the point I was trying to make was hell, yea, go for it. Is that so hard to understand? I think not. Now I am tired of this bit and I'm going to go cook some eggs... mistertaterbug On Sep 27, 9:41 am, Robert Feivor rfei...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, what a thread! :) I love this group for the honest discussion that can be had. I can't and won't pretend to be able to speak to anyone's concerns but only share my observations with a bit of a tangent Sometimes our musical stars are not quite like we imagine them to be in our own head or how they present themselves to the public. I get this and accept as we are all human (even those w/a modicum of fame) On the one hand I really don't give a rip what the person is like it's there music I enjoy; but this isn't always honest either b/c on some level the person behind the music does influence, no? Though there are plenty of musicians I love the music of and have never met; I do understand that sometimes they weren't always the nicest people. I remember attending one of the early Mando Symposiums and upon arriving I was a complete awe struck Dawg admirer but by week's end I was leaving a total convert of Tater. Why? Dawg certainly wasn't rude or rock star like but he also wasn't necessarily what I'd imagined in my head. Tater was someone I was familiar with but left with a HUGE appreciation for b/c I saw the measure of the man you could say. He was genuine and true to his words and lives it. What does any of this mean; hell if I know. But Nelson, I for one appreciate MC's insights and knowledge that far exceed my own. At the same time I know he's honest and sincere when he says to follow your heart. By darn it if Skaggs is your guy then don't be bashful, I'm sure Tater wouldn't want that. Surely your conviction can withstand some ribbin? I hope so. The beauty of this list is you can fire your own rib shot back and smile. Now someboyd queue up WAR's Why Can't We Be Friends and lets get back to pickin! RF in MN On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 9:10 AM, malagrass malayt...@bellsouth.net wrote: Tater-agitator-taterbug. I love you man.. I have a few of Ricky's CD's and have enjoyed his talent through the years but i've heard some stuff that Ricky said at Bills funeral about carrying the torch and i'm still completely turned off. But since then I have bought his cd's and even went to see him once in Bristol. Man his timing was wyy bad but thats another subject. So I guess i'm on the fence.as usual. The entire political thing in BG seems like its pretty brutal but mr. tater, keep in mind you are the man and I personally like, look up to and try to emulate what you do. Which is more than I can say for Ricky's style. BigMalagrass. On Sep 27, 2:41 am, mandoho...@comcast.net wrote: Hot damn! This is almost as good as the Jerry Springer show. (not that I ever watched) I was looking for the fat girl to take a swing at Tater any minute. I like Ricky just like I liked Jimmy Martin, but neither of them share my values so I wouldn't want to take them home, but I'll sure as hell buy their music. Clyde Clevenger Just My Opinion, But It's Right Salem, Oregon Old Circle --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: lucky lady
Damn, With all the racy talk of late I thought this would be a video...or at least a web cam; fully clothed of course. ;0 On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 6:00 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote: Okay, so all you chaps looking for Lucky Lady can find it in on the Files page. Git it... Tatertab On Sep 21, 9:50 am, Terry Harvey terwaha...@gmail.com wrote: yep it worked out, love both those tunes!! never heard either one of them before this a.m. - thanks for posting!! On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I posted a new attempt of this. I compressed it so hopefully it will work this time! anyone who wants it please email me at ap...@jacksonandcompany.net I will gladly spend a company dollar on this! Chef On Sep 15, 3:11 pm, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com wrote: any of you fellers familiar with the instrumental... Lucky Lady? -- Its never too late to be what we might have been --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Evening Prayer Blues
I'll hop on the list b/c I love Spruce's mic'ing techniquesGD 74' etc. :) On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 7:55 PM, ljt lj...@intas.net.au wrote: and me... linda On Aug 11, 10:26 am, Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com wrote: add me to that list please Fred, thanks. Trey From: Fred fkel...@scicable.net To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 7:26:00 PM Subject: Re: Evening Prayer Blues Tried to send it to the group but it's too large. I'll send it to individuals though Robin Gravina wrote: and much cheek - does anyone have Deford Bailey's version? On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:52 PM, nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net mailto:nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: That's right. Thanks. See, I'm not going nuts. I'm just confused! On Mon 08/10/09 4:46 PM , Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com mailto:mark.se...@gmail.com sent: Its the tune of the week over on CoMando On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Nelson wrote: It might be my imagination, but I thought someone was discussing this tune recently. The thread mentioned Tater/Long on YouTube and Alan Bibey's version. I have both of those and enjoy them. I mean no offense to any of those fine gentlemen, but wanted to add one that you guys need to hear. Dave Davis plays it on his album Troubled Times, and it is a killer version. You can find it on Amazon.com and check it out. I have put the disc in my player and set the track repeat so that it plays over and over on the way to work. Check it out. Nelson --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Costello/Tater on David Letterman Thurs night
Well this is the hip new gig right? Make us proud Tate! -RF On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 5:21 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote: Will be doing Tonight Show on the 23rd though... TB On Jun 3, 11:09 am, Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote: Damn. On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 8:44 AM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: Uhm, if this is a new show I won't be on it. Bugs On Jun 2, 9:42 pm, Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote: Stay up late Thursday night and catch the Tater on the Late Show with Costello. Y ha! Or, set the recorder and go to bed and watch it later, but don't miss it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: sound advice
Wow, nn!!! Do you hear the TONE (not!) high and brittle err lonesome sound. The Schertler's seem to have their fans but are out of my price range to speak about. I've tried McIntyre's etc. but all were way to brittle sounding Fishman certainly has a good rep as does Baggs but again the bridge isn't exactly a warm spot for tone, always drove me nuts they put the things there!! what does the butcher recommend for his gils? i'm sure this helped alot! sorry! RF On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:12 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote: Okay, here's one for you... After playing the mandolin without plugging in for 38 years, I have just found out in the last 2 weeks that I will be plugging in for the gig. I've tried to go with a mic, but the word is that we are to be using DI's, so...Uncle StuBob Duncan has ordered me a new Fishman bridge assembly to put on #536 Gil. Am I going to want to kill myself? I decided I'd get my Kay electric fixed to take a long. I mean, if I'm gonna be electricWhat do I do? Distressed in Tennessee On May 26, 3:15 pm, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote: pleaase!!! Stage fright is appalling R On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Val Mindel vmin...@gmail.com wrote: Really interesting and useful info, guys. Thanks from the lurking gallery. Meanwhile, Robin mentioned a problem with the right hand freezing, something I call iron arm. Does anyone have any cures? Just wondering... best, val On May 25, 10:51 am, Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Robin, I use that AKG C411 contact condenser with the ART pre too. It's the best thing I've found as far as a pickup goes. I generally put it right behind the bridge on the bass side and still have to roll off some of the high end. I turn up enough that I have to chop quietly and then dig in a little more for breaks and that seems to work fine. I experimented some with a Fishman bridge pickup through a Fishman Aura with the mandolin samples. I thought that was really great sounding too, I liked it better than the AKG, but I didn't like what the Fishman bridge did to the acoustic sound of the instrument so it came off. I'd like to get a decent playing inexpensive mandolin and put the Fishman bridge on it to use when I have to plug in. Gain-staging: sending the proper amount of signal from the instrument to the mixer and from the mixer to the amp makes a difference. Experiment with your setup till you find those sweet spots. I've played some noisy bars from hell and using in-ear monitors makes a huge difference too. They block out a lot of the room noise and let you hear your bandmates clearly at a reasonable volume. They take some getting used to for singing (you hear a lot of your head voice like singing with fingers in your ears) but they make noisy venues more enjoyable to play. Congrats on your successful gig and keep us posted on what's working for you. Don On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks! Trouble with crazy gear is it takes up space in the car! I'm on an Akg stick on condensor microphone through an Art tube preamp thing. Not because I carefully selected it, but because someone recommended that as simple and good sounding... Best On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 3:49 PM, MinnesotaMandolin eberr...@gmail.com wrote: Robin-- I'm very happy to hear things went better. I was working in the garden thinking about your post and I just posted up a front to back suggestion list. Glad it helped. I think one speaker/no monitor is a great set up, it forces simplicity. Experience will go a long ways towards making this easier. I think your big problem will be all the crazy gear out there you can plug into to make your pickup sound like wood. After $1000s and a few years, I've just added a mic to my rig. If you want to talk brand names and stuff, I'd be happy to do it. It's hard to find mandolin oriented gear, it's mostly acoustic guitar stuff, but I've tried a lot of it and don't mind sharing what I've learned. good luck with the next show erik On May 25, 2:35 am, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote: Erik Thanks for all that advice - it's really good to have some practical and concrete suggestions to apply. In the end it went well - we turned it up for the soundcheck and it sounded pretty horrible and harsh, but after some fiddling, the instruments began to sound like they were made of wood, and the show went great - no feedback issues, we could hear ourselves and so could the audience despite no monitor and only one big speaker (no room for
Re: Tater on the Cafe
Awesome MC!!! Thank You -RF On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:06 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote: And do you suppose, Mr. Sandstone, that my professional reputation should be able to stand repeated forays into the hinterlands of telling the truth as I see it? I mean, there IS such a thing as karma. There seems to be a point where it all is meaningless in the scheme of things anyway, and all the motions made outside applying one's trade for the sheer joy of it are only an exercise in going backwards. I suppose I could publish my answers without the questions. No harm there. Very well... Bill, Thanks for your questions. I'll make an effort to be economical in my answers... 1) So far, the main obstacle or roadblock as you called it, to learning Monroe style seems to be the right hand technique of the style. Many people have a hard time using tremolo as the main exponent to creating melody, to keeping the right hand moving and not giving in to the temptation to playing somewhat erratic right hand patterns. I have found that the fiddle kinship with Monroe's right hand technique seems to require that the right hand keep moving and making the motions, even when the string is not struck, sort of a phantom stroke to keep the notes emphasized the right way. The tendency in people not used to using this technique is to change pick direction only on the next note in the melody. There is sort of a going backwards in time that needs to be done, back to the time in string bands when fiddles were the main instrument of choice rather than electric guitars, when a bow stroke or tremolo was the means of playing a sustained tone rather than striking a note once and counting on an amplifier to do the rest. One of the other primary changes in thinking needs to come with an understanding of using chord voicings to find melody and harmony rather than using a more linear approach, playing more out of boxes rather than running lengthwise up and down the fingerboard. But to me, the hardest part and also the smartest part of the style is how Monroe could suggest passages to the listener without actually spelling the idea out. Dealing with abstract melodic ideas is a bit more challenging to understand I think. As far as mastering the style, I don't know that it's possible to really accomplish that feat in one lifetime. There's so much to know and really, I've only begun to scratch the surface myself. 2) I think that Monroe would be very proud to know that his music has maintained so much interest in the modern day that entire camps are devoted to better understanding and use the style he created. 3) You have made a number of references to blues licks in your questions so far. Sure, there is a lot of blues in Monroe's music. I think that it's one of the ingredients that I like the best, if not the one that effects me strongest. You refer to modern players as being very smooth and polished and I'll agree with your comments. I will say that I do not agree that Monroe was always ragged and without polish. I suggest you listen to a lot more Monroe. There are plenty examples of his work that show impeccably clean technique. What you will NOT find is careful music. I do not think that perfection is necessarily the object of expression. Squeaky clean and careful music bores me anyway. I would rather have music that shows commitment and emotional content than all the spit and polish in the world. To each his own, I guess, but I'd rather the music I listen to be unpredictable. I wouldn't presume to know what was going through Monroe's head when he played. I'm sure that some of the Bluegrass Boys could more accurately describe his thought processes and intentions than I could. I'm sure Kenny Baker could. He's quoted as saying he knew what Bill was trying to do. I'd sure like to know what that is myself. I do think that Bill allowed his muse to take him wherever it led, that his take on melody was that of an impressionist and that he presented the melody the way he felt at any given time rather than working up a solo and recreating it note for note every time. There is ample evidence that there were outlines that he went by, but I think that he just used the outlines as a guide. His output is chock full of random phrasing, whether it be from day to day or show to show or version to version. A couple of things suggest themselves to me. One part of it seems to be an evolutionary process in regard to melody. The other part seems to suggest that there are a fair amount of notes and phrases that can be rearranged or deleted completely without really effecting the overall impression of the melody being played. 4)Yessir, I do have a signature model pick with Red Bear called the Taterbug Special. Dave Skowron suggested the idea and sent along a sample in the mail one day and from there we've worked on making a pick size/shape that I like. I'll say
Re: regionalism (long-winded and rambling)
See what happens in the great white north when one is trapped indoors too long? ;) RF (Yes in MN) On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.netwrote: I abdicate the throne... On Feb 16, 4:48 pm, MinnesotaMandolin eberr...@gmail.com wrote: So, this is idea here is not a specific question, more of a half- formed idea of mine I'm sharing for discussion because I'm curious what other people think. The other day I was listening to Jawbone Railroad, a fine Montana- based stringband whose CD I picked up during my travels. They do a cool version of Keep Your Skillet Good and Greasy and it contains a vocal line about collard greens. Now, I don't think collards can grow in Montana. I know they can't in my part of the world, which is zone 3 for you greenthumbs. So the tune probably traveled to Montana. In this day and age, obviously, between the internet and other mediums tunes can travel anywhere. But most traditional stringband music seems to be Southern, that is to say, zone 5 or higher. Collard green growing climates. And I'm going to use these zone markings to keep the focus on climate and not any other sort of differentiation between the different parts of the US. Back in the day, there had to be fiddle bands in all the zones, because the instrument traveled there. There's collections of Minnesota/Wisconsin fiddle music, for example, which is mostly Scandanavian in its origins. But that part of the world had its share of Irish immigrants, as did Appalachia and other regions associated with stringband music. Up in Zone 4 or colder, though, the other major instrument seemed to be the accordian, not the banjo. So that's my wordy introduction to My Questions. Do you think the reason much of the fiddle or stringband tradition seems to be (mostly) Zones 5-8 is the banjo is cooler than the accordian? (that's a subjective question, I know) Is it because the Carter family and other professionals really crystallized a lot of very cool stuff on recorded mediums in a way that transcended their place and time? Is it because WSM was located in Nashville? Are there lost tunes that are Michigan/ Minnesota/Montana in origin and are only lost because the performers died out before the field recorders or the radio got there in time? Did the record companies think Iowans were less likely to buy records than Virginians? Certainly we can play what-if games all day about history, which is actually one of my late-night conversation hobbies. I guess what I'm after is why do you think contemporaty Montana-based stringbands sing traditional songs about collard greens (with cornbread and beans) and Carolina-based stringbands don't sing traditional songs about ice fishing? Of course, that's just keeping the focus on the United States. And with that, I'm going to wrap this up. I'm curious to read what people think. erik --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: For the Love of Playing Music
That's not funny; but it is! :o On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Dan Eaton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw this on the news last night. As a tag line, it was mentioned that Another One Bites The Dust by Queen has the proper rhythm, but under these circumstances, is not recommended. Dan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
