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Well this thread has made me realize how useful this forum can be in some ways. I had a thread closed down on me on the cafe because I mentioned that maybe Monroe doesn't deserve so much credit for starting bluegrass when people were playing a whole lot of commercial, blues influenced country music before he came along. He definitely did something amazing with the music and his influence is priceless, but he didn't pick up clay and shape the first bluegrass record where nothing existed before. Now, I don't want to talk about this, I just want to relate how upset I was when the thread was locked after this comment and I was sent a private message asking me to play nice. This tater forum is a constant source for inspiration, discussion, opinion, and much more, including non work-safe links if you are so inclined *G* I don't spend nearly the time I should listening to modern bluegrass, but Ricky always surprises me with his talent and listenability, it would be nice if he felt so strongly about his influence on bluegrass music and mandolin playing to contribute to a Monroe mandolin camp, and I hate hearing about other's religions. I don't know enough about the subject to say anything else. Hoffy On Sep 26, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Mike Romkey wrote: I'd just like to say for the record that I probably do, in fact, need a spanking from the aforementioned naughty lady. (g) I was joking about Ricky in the buck comment. I was tipping my hat to him before that in with the Jack White video link. I haven't bought the new CD but I plan to. I agree with everything the Master Tater said. We all have our pluses and minuses. Just like Mr. Monroe. I'll try to be more polite, but I don't know how to tippy toe. I think one of the weakness of a certain other mandolin site where a lot of us spend time is that the moderators pounce if stray from the realms of sweetness and light. Express an opinion about Gibson pricing and quality sometime and see what happens. (g) (Disclaimer: I own, and love, my Gibson Adam Steffy F-5.) Peace to Nelson. I didn't mean to offend. I was gonna say earlier, but didn't want to stir the pot, that despite what you might say about Mr. Skaggs looking for commercial veins to mine, I give him credit for taking risks to provide for his family. I don't have a list of that small number of people you can say make a decent living playing bluegrass, but Mr. Skaggs has to be near the top when it comes to commercial, financial success. Of course, that doesn't excuse pride, aloofness or rudeness. And as a fan, in my humble opinion nothing excuses Superfreak, and I'm not anything like a bluegrass hardcore. Sometimes he tries too hard for that middle-of-the-road commercial audience, in this critic's opinion. (Mr. Compton's choice of material, however, I have always found to be impeccably tasty!) The comment of MC's that intrigues me the most, though, is this: I'd like to have as strong a contact with the driving force as he does. I like to discuss that one with you, Boss. Hoping for peace and harmony here and in the Middle East, Mike Whip Me, Beat Me, Call Me Marge Romkey On Sep 26, 2009, at 4:58 PM, mistertaterbug wrote: Nelson, I think a lot of this is being done in fun, but some is a thin veil to a more serious issue, that being what I'd guess to be a growing intolerance for Ricky's attitude. Instiga-tater On Sep 23, 9:08 am, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: Some of the nastiness in this thread makes me think some of us need to contact that BDSM lady for a spanking or two! On Sep 23, 8:28 am, Mike Romkey rom...@qconline.com wrote: And you thought Skaggs knew now to turn a buck! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Hot damn! This is almost as good as the Jerry Springer show. (not that I ever watched) I was looking for the fat girl to take a swing at Tater any minute. I like Ricky just like I liked Jimmy Martin, but neither of them share my values so I wouldn't want to take them home, but I'll sure as hell buy their music. Clyde Clevenger Just My Opinion, But It's Right Salem, Oregon Old Circle --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Tater-agitator-taterbug. I love you man.. I have a few of Ricky's CD's and have enjoyed his talent through the years but i've heard some stuff that Ricky said at Bills funeral about carrying the torch and i'm still completely turned off. But since then I have bought his cd's and even went to see him once in Bristol. Man his timing was wyy bad but thats another subject. So I guess i'm on the fence.as usual. The entire political thing in BG seems like its pretty brutal but mr. tater, keep in mind you are the man and I personally like, look up to and try to emulate what you do. Which is more than I can say for Ricky's style. BigMalagrass. On Sep 27, 2:41 am, mandoho...@comcast.net wrote: Hot damn! This is almost as good as the Jerry Springer show. (not that I ever watched) I was looking for the fat girl to take a swing at Tater any minute. I like Ricky just like I liked Jimmy Martin, but neither of them share my values so I wouldn't want to take them home, but I'll sure as hell buy their music. Clyde Clevenger Just My Opinion, But It's Right Salem, Oregon Old Circle --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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How 'bout them Bears? I must say I find this thread extremely interesting on a veritable plethora of levels. Not the least of which is the fact that good, honest discussion necessitates a few car crashes. And I applaud this group for allowing for just such discourse... as we, the rubber- necking witnesses, can now attest. I also have great respect for Mike's willingness to leave a Road Master sized divot in any topic. I do love that... I also respect Nelson's reaction here. It is completely reasonable. When someone you respect trashes someone else you respect, there is a quandary. And lest my comments seem too middle of the road I will say this... It is my personal opinion that Mr. Skaggs' mandolin playing is complete and utter shit. I find it trite, uninventive and just downright terrible. It literally makes me cringe. I fast forward through his solos on Bluegrass Album Band records as to not disrupt the otherwise beauty, including Mr. Skaggs' fantastic singing. I would usually keep comments about someone's playing to myself (or at least amongst friends) but his obvious want to wear the crown sickens me and I feel the need to say so. /rant Now, that said, I also feel obliged to go listen to Skaggs' new record because people I respect like it. This I will do. Buckle up! Brian On Sep 26, 4:58 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: Nelson, I think a lot of this is being done in fun, but some is a thin veil to a more serious issue, that being what I'd guess to be a growing intolerance for Ricky's attitude. I have been told by more than a few people that Ricky was downright rude to them in face to face situations, not to mention him talking down to an entire crowd. One member of this group was called sonny by Skaggs once in very condescending manner. Then, you have the damned ongoing father of bluegrass issue. Who in hell wants to hear that shit anymore? I tried for decades to play everything Bill played, only to find I can't do it. There's nothing I'd like better than to have his commitment and powerful musical mind, but I'm not a Bill Monroe. There was only one, there will only be ONE. Nobody else can play like the man, no one else (in the bluegrass field) had his creative depth and showmanship. Bill was king in his time. For the style of music he played and sang, no one else will come close. There are others, were others who stand as tall, I'm sure of it. But I don't have a list. Bill couldn't have been the only one. But Ricky is not one of them. He is very talented, yes. He damned well oughta be considering he's been doing this since he was a kid. No one is trying to deny Ricky his talents and achievements. Indeed, I'd like to have his level of success and position myself. I'd like to have as strong a contact with the driving force as he does. But you gotta know by now that putting one's life in the public eye requires being willing to take more than one's fair share of hits. You might also consider the fact that I asked Ricky repeatedly to contact me about coming to the Monroe Mando Camp this year. After I hounded him (and his father-in-law Buck White) to call me about stepping up to the plate and show us all his best father of bluegrass impersonation, he sent me two lines on his cell phone in a text message saying that he was working on three projects and would not be able to make it. Do you suppose he was so busy that he could not spare part of one weekend to honor the very person whose image he seeks to emulate? If you are easily impressed by people who can play more than one instrument, I can point you to a dozen here just in my own neighborhood (I am NOT one of them, by the way). If Ricky touches a nerve in you, then by God, I say buy everything the man's put out, send him a Xmas card and go hang out on his doorstep. Good for you. But you needn't chastise the rest of the us for having opinions about the man's motives. As far as addressing things in this group, we do not have nor need a mediator. That's one of the reasons I set it up this way. Everybody says what they want to. Period. If one of us smells something he/she thinks smells like shit, then it's fair game. By the same token, you brought us something that you liked and we're grateful for it. I'm sure that even some of the ones commenting here will go out and buy the album. If you want a kinder gentler crowd, I'm sure Commando's door is open. Best I remember, they were nice and PC over there. Instiga-tater On Sep 23, 9:08 am, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: Some of the nastiness in this thread makes me think some of us need to contact that BDSM lady for a spanking or two! On Sep 23, 8:28 am, Mike Romkey rom...@qconline.com wrote: And you thought Skaggs knew now to turn a buck! On Sep 23, 2009, at 6:39 AM, Dasspunk wrote: Wow, bigevemusic.com [NWF] has really gone through some changes... eek! B
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Wow, what a thread! :) I love this group for the honest discussion that can be had. I can't and won't pretend to be able to speak to anyone's concerns but only share my observations with a bit of a tangent Sometimes our musical stars are not quite like we imagine them to be in our own head or how they present themselves to the public. I get this and accept as we are all human (even those w/a modicum of fame) On the one hand I really don't give a rip what the person is like it's there music I enjoy; but this isn't always honest either b/c on some level the person behind the music does influence, no? Though there are plenty of musicians I love the music of and have never met; I do understand that sometimes they weren't always the nicest people. I remember attending one of the early Mando Symposiums and upon arriving I was a complete awe struck Dawg admirer but by week's end I was leaving a total convert of Tater. Why? Dawg certainly wasn't rude or rock star like but he also wasn't necessarily what I'd imagined in my head. Tater was someone I was familiar with but left with a HUGE appreciation for b/c I saw the measure of the man you could say. He was genuine and true to his words and lives it. What does any of this mean; hell if I know. But Nelson, I for one appreciate MC's insights and knowledge that far exceed my own. At the same time I know he's honest and sincere when he says to follow your heart. By darn it if Skaggs is your guy then don't be bashful, I'm sure Tater wouldn't want that. Surely your conviction can withstand some ribbin? I hope so. The beauty of this list is you can fire your own rib shot back and smile. Now someboyd queue up WAR's Why Can't We Be Friends and lets get back to pickin! RF in MN On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 9:10 AM, malagrass malayt...@bellsouth.net wrote: Tater-agitator-taterbug. I love you man.. I have a few of Ricky's CD's and have enjoyed his talent through the years but i've heard some stuff that Ricky said at Bills funeral about carrying the torch and i'm still completely turned off. But since then I have bought his cd's and even went to see him once in Bristol. Man his timing was wyy bad but thats another subject. So I guess i'm on the fence.as usual. The entire political thing in BG seems like its pretty brutal but mr. tater, keep in mind you are the man and I personally like, look up to and try to emulate what you do. Which is more than I can say for Ricky's style. BigMalagrass. On Sep 27, 2:41 am, mandoho...@comcast.net wrote: Hot damn! This is almost as good as the Jerry Springer show. (not that I ever watched) I was looking for the fat girl to take a swing at Tater any minute. I like Ricky just like I liked Jimmy Martin, but neither of them share my values so I wouldn't want to take them home, but I'll sure as hell buy their music. Clyde Clevenger Just My Opinion, But It's Right Salem, Oregon Old Circle --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Skaggs CD
I have received email from Nelson offlist and he is of the impression that my post was meant to put him in his place. If that was my point, I'd say yea, be pissed off, because I have no right to tell Nelson or anyone else what to listen to, play, say, blah, blah, blah. Nelson cited the phrase that suggested he was easily impressed... and referenced the sentence that encouraged him to send Skaggs a Xmas card, to go sit on his doorstep. Okay. Two things about that...1) Living in this town where you can't swing a dead cat without hitting somebody that plays half a dozen instruments well or at the least, above average, makes it really hard to be impressed by yet another person that can do the same. Unfortunately, sometimes learning more about something(or in the case of Jimmy Martin, Monroe, etc) runs the risk of losing respect or love or interest for it. Educating oneself is admirable, but it does sometimes put a dimmer light on some things, or has for me. 2) I thought I made it adequately clear that I was all for Nelson's appreciation for Skaggs' music. Finding something that touches the soul and inspires, provides an escape from the turmoil of the day is about as good as it gets. I remember what I felt like when I bought Monroe's records. I used to get the dry heaves before I could get the needle on the platter. The words I lent to Nelson regarding getting acquainted with his heroes were words given to me. I have known of at least a couple instances where artists living here have sought out their heroes to the point of calling them on the phone and showing up at their front door. I was told to do the same thing and did. I didn't get much time to hang out with Monroe, and seriously, found out there was a lot about his personality that I didn't like, which was sad. It is truly best, IMO, to keep one's heroes at arm's length. But the point I was trying to make was hell, yea, go for it. Is that so hard to understand? I think not. Now I am tired of this bit and I'm going to go cook some eggs... mistertaterbug On Sep 27, 9:41 am, Robert Feivor rfei...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, what a thread! :) I love this group for the honest discussion that can be had. I can't and won't pretend to be able to speak to anyone's concerns but only share my observations with a bit of a tangent Sometimes our musical stars are not quite like we imagine them to be in our own head or how they present themselves to the public. I get this and accept as we are all human (even those w/a modicum of fame) On the one hand I really don't give a rip what the person is like it's there music I enjoy; but this isn't always honest either b/c on some level the person behind the music does influence, no? Though there are plenty of musicians I love the music of and have never met; I do understand that sometimes they weren't always the nicest people. I remember attending one of the early Mando Symposiums and upon arriving I was a complete awe struck Dawg admirer but by week's end I was leaving a total convert of Tater. Why? Dawg certainly wasn't rude or rock star like but he also wasn't necessarily what I'd imagined in my head. Tater was someone I was familiar with but left with a HUGE appreciation for b/c I saw the measure of the man you could say. He was genuine and true to his words and lives it. What does any of this mean; hell if I know. But Nelson, I for one appreciate MC's insights and knowledge that far exceed my own. At the same time I know he's honest and sincere when he says to follow your heart. By darn it if Skaggs is your guy then don't be bashful, I'm sure Tater wouldn't want that. Surely your conviction can withstand some ribbin? I hope so. The beauty of this list is you can fire your own rib shot back and smile. Now someboyd queue up WAR's Why Can't We Be Friends and lets get back to pickin! RF in MN On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 9:10 AM, malagrass malayt...@bellsouth.net wrote: Tater-agitator-taterbug. I love you man.. I have a few of Ricky's CD's and have enjoyed his talent through the years but i've heard some stuff that Ricky said at Bills funeral about carrying the torch and i'm still completely turned off. But since then I have bought his cd's and even went to see him once in Bristol. Man his timing was wyy bad but thats another subject. So I guess i'm on the fence.as usual. The entire political thing in BG seems like its pretty brutal but mr. tater, keep in mind you are the man and I personally like, look up to and try to emulate what you do. Which is more than I can say for Ricky's style. BigMalagrass. On Sep 27, 2:41 am, mandoho...@comcast.net wrote: Hot damn! This is almost as good as the Jerry Springer show. (not that I ever watched) I was looking for the fat girl to take a swing at Tater any minute. I like Ricky just like I liked Jimmy Martin, but neither of them share my values so I wouldn't want to take
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Skaggs' mando solos are hit and miss for me- but I can't agree that his playing is utter shit- the mando solo to Highway 40 Blues is brilliant- I assume he played it- someone correct me if I'm wrong. And, I love the intro to Walls of Time. Bill in Nashville On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote: How 'bout them Bears? I must say I find this thread extremely interesting on a veritable plethora of levels. Not the least of which is the fact that good, honest discussion necessitates a few car crashes. And I applaud this group for allowing for just such discourse... as we, the rubber- necking witnesses, can now attest. I also have great respect for Mike's willingness to leave a Road Master sized divot in any topic. I do love that... I also respect Nelson's reaction here. It is completely reasonable. When someone you respect trashes someone else you respect, there is a quandary. And lest my comments seem too middle of the road I will say this... It is my personal opinion that Mr. Skaggs' mandolin playing is complete and utter shit. I find it trite, uninventive and just downright terrible. It literally makes me cringe. I fast forward through his solos on Bluegrass Album Band records as to not disrupt the otherwise beauty, including Mr. Skaggs' fantastic singing. I would usually keep comments about someone's playing to myself (or at least amongst friends) but his obvious want to wear the crown sickens me and I feel the need to say so. /rant Now, that said, I also feel obliged to go listen to Skaggs' new record because people I respect like it. This I will do. Buckle up! Brian On Sep 26, 4:58 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: Nelson, I think a lot of this is being done in fun, but some is a thin veil to a more serious issue, that being what I'd guess to be a growing intolerance for Ricky's attitude. I have been told by more than a few people that Ricky was downright rude to them in face to face situations, not to mention him talking down to an entire crowd. One member of this group was called sonny by Skaggs once in very condescending manner. Then, you have the damned ongoing father of bluegrass issue. Who in hell wants to hear that shit anymore? I tried for decades to play everything Bill played, only to find I can't do it. There's nothing I'd like better than to have his commitment and powerful musical mind, but I'm not a Bill Monroe. There was only one, there will only be ONE. Nobody else can play like the man, no one else (in the bluegrass field) had his creative depth and showmanship. Bill was king in his time. For the style of music he played and sang, no one else will come close. There are others, were others who stand as tall, I'm sure of it. But I don't have a list. Bill couldn't have been the only one. But Ricky is not one of them. He is very talented, yes. He damned well oughta be considering he's been doing this since he was a kid. No one is trying to deny Ricky his talents and achievements. Indeed, I'd like to have his level of success and position myself. I'd like to have as strong a contact with the driving force as he does. But you gotta know by now that putting one's life in the public eye requires being willing to take more than one's fair share of hits. You might also consider the fact that I asked Ricky repeatedly to contact me about coming to the Monroe Mando Camp this year. After I hounded him (and his father-in-law Buck White) to call me about stepping up to the plate and show us all his best father of bluegrass impersonation, he sent me two lines on his cell phone in a text message saying that he was working on three projects and would not be able to make it. Do you suppose he was so busy that he could not spare part of one weekend to honor the very person whose image he seeks to emulate? If you are easily impressed by people who can play more than one instrument, I can point you to a dozen here just in my own neighborhood (I am NOT one of them, by the way). If Ricky touches a nerve in you, then by God, I say buy everything the man's put out, send him a Xmas card and go hang out on his doorstep. Good for you. But you needn't chastise the rest of the us for having opinions about the man's motives. As far as addressing things in this group, we do not have nor need a mediator. That's one of the reasons I set it up this way. Everybody says what they want to. Period. If one of us smells something he/she thinks smells like shit, then it's fair game. By the same token, you brought us something that you liked and we're grateful for it. I'm sure that even some of the ones commenting here will go out and buy the album. If you want a kinder gentler crowd, I'm sure Commando's door is open. Best I remember, they were nice and PC over there. Instiga-tater On Sep 23, 9:08 am, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:
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It troubles me to know end how squeamish and sensitive our culture can be in regards to discussions of these matters. The It's all good and If you don't have any thing nice to say attitudes will continue ruining discussion and argument until the end of time. By all means, put anyone you like on a stage and let them do their dance, but DONT say they have no right to be criticized. Mostly because we not only have a right to express these opinions, but to hear those of others. How would we, as people and musicians for that matter, ever get anywhere without criticism? Yes, it does sometimes come across as junkie energy but if a person has the ability to canonize that into something witty, ironic, or humorous (as Mike does) then it wouldn't always seem so crass and we may be able to get down to business. Our conversation and vocabularies are so poverty stricken that all one has in the barrel is, That sucks, dude followed by an even more pathetic rebuke and then ultimately devolving into fragile, hurt feelings of people that don't even have an arsenal of words or intellect to move discussion forward and understand the idea that a difference of opinion IS NOT INTENTIONALLY INSULTING. Nelson, I hope you realize what a disservice you have done to your playing by removing yourself from Mike's calender. We need people like you. I myself have been on the same receiving end of Mike's tongue several times but had I bailed at the first sign of thunder I dare say my life wouldn't be any different. Good luck. Onto the Scaggs point: I have never net the man, nor do I care to. His music never thrilled me and his manners on stage and television I find appalling. His comment in the Virginia newspaper a few months ago was one of the most galling and fatuous assumptions that I ever heard a performer make. He makes it clearly known that he is a man of faith and preaches at his shows. To me, it's obvious why he and other performers do this. If I, on stage, were to start expressing my opinions about how repulsive I think religion is, I would surely hear from the pulpit. I'd love to quiz Ricky on his biblical literacy some time. When we as performers start thundering about faith, morality, politics, or professional football we immediately make ourselves a hostage to criticism and rebuke. Quite honestly, if I ever met Scaggs, I may find him quite nice and personal and who knows, potential friendship. But like all my closest, dearest and most intelligent friends, we ENJOY the contrast and the clash because we are sufficiently grown up enough to know that we can take it and what may seem tense or awkward at first usually turns into something learned down the line. Criticism is necessary and should be welcome. Those who are willing to let it rest softly in there hearts will be a better man and those who cast it aside and let something trivial get in the way will stagnate, suffer, and find themselves in a frenzy of immobilization. Reporting live, Miles Long On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:31 AM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote: I have received email from Nelson offlist and he is of the impression that my post was meant to put him in his place. If that was my point, I'd say yea, be pissed off, because I have no right to tell Nelson or anyone else what to listen to, play, say, blah, blah, blah. Nelson cited the phrase that suggested he was easily impressed... and referenced the sentence that encouraged him to send Skaggs a Xmas card, to go sit on his doorstep. Okay. Two things about that...1) Living in this town where you can't swing a dead cat without hitting somebody that plays half a dozen instruments well or at the least, above average, makes it really hard to be impressed by yet another person that can do the same. Unfortunately, sometimes learning more about something(or in the case of Jimmy Martin, Monroe, etc) runs the risk of losing respect or love or interest for it. Educating oneself is admirable, but it does sometimes put a dimmer light on some things, or has for me. 2) I thought I made it adequately clear that I was all for Nelson's appreciation for Skaggs' music. Finding something that touches the soul and inspires, provides an escape from the turmoil of the day is about as good as it gets. I remember what I felt like when I bought Monroe's records. I used to get the dry heaves before I could get the needle on the platter. The words I lent to Nelson regarding getting acquainted with his heroes were words given to me. I have known of at least a couple instances where artists living here have sought out their heroes to the point of calling them on the phone and showing up at their front door. I was told to do the same thing and did. I didn't get much time to hang out with Monroe, and seriously, found out there was a lot about his personality that I didn't like, which was sad. It is truly best, IMO, to keep one's heroes at arm's length. But the point I was trying to
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Glad to see the thread didn't die; let your freak flag fly I say! Now for super freak that gets referenced alot w/Skaggs; surely that was a Hornsby selection no? ;) On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 2:11 PM, David Long bigevemu...@gmail.com wrote: It troubles me to know end how squeamish and sensitive our culture can be in regards to discussions of these matters. The It's all good and If you don't have any thing nice to say attitudes will continue ruining discussion and argument until the end of time. By all means, put anyone you like on a stage and let them do their dance, but DONT say they have no right to be criticized. Mostly because we not only have a right to express these opinions, but to hear those of others. How would we, as people and musicians for that matter, ever get anywhere without criticism? Yes, it does sometimes come across as junkie energy but if a person has the ability to canonize that into something witty, ironic, or humorous (as Mike does) then it wouldn't always seem so crass and we may be able to get down to business. Our conversation and vocabularies are so poverty stricken that all one has in the barrel is, That sucks, dude followed by an even more pathetic rebuke and then ultimately devolving into fragile, hurt feelings of people that don't even have an arsenal of words or intellect to move discussion forward and understand the idea that a difference of opinion IS NOT INTENTIONALLY INSULTING. Nelson, I hope you realize what a disservice you have done to your playing by removing yourself from Mike's calender. We need people like you. I myself have been on the same receiving end of Mike's tongue several times but had I bailed at the first sign of thunder I dare say my life wouldn't be any different. Good luck. Onto the Scaggs point: I have never net the man, nor do I care to. His music never thrilled me and his manners on stage and television I find appalling. His comment in the Virginia newspaper a few months ago was one of the most galling and fatuous assumptions that I ever heard a performer make. He makes it clearly known that he is a man of faith and preaches at his shows. To me, it's obvious why he and other performers do this. If I, on stage, were to start expressing my opinions about how repulsive I think religion is, I would surely hear from the pulpit. I'd love to quiz Ricky on his biblical literacy some time. When we as performers start thundering about faith, morality, politics, or professional football we immediately make ourselves a hostage to criticism and rebuke. Quite honestly, if I ever met Scaggs, I may find him quite nice and personal and who knows, potential friendship. But like all my closest, dearest and most intelligent friends, we ENJOY the contrast and the clash because we are sufficiently grown up enough to know that we can take it and what may seem tense or awkward at first usually turns into something learned down the line. Criticism is necessary and should be welcome. Those who are willing to let it rest softly in there hearts will be a better man and those who cast it aside and let something trivial get in the way will stagnate, suffer, and find themselves in a frenzy of immobilization. Reporting live, Miles Long On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:31 AM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote: I have received email from Nelson offlist and he is of the impression that my post was meant to put him in his place. If that was my point, I'd say yea, be pissed off, because I have no right to tell Nelson or anyone else what to listen to, play, say, blah, blah, blah. Nelson cited the phrase that suggested he was easily impressed... and referenced the sentence that encouraged him to send Skaggs a Xmas card, to go sit on his doorstep. Okay. Two things about that...1) Living in this town where you can't swing a dead cat without hitting somebody that plays half a dozen instruments well or at the least, above average, makes it really hard to be impressed by yet another person that can do the same. Unfortunately, sometimes learning more about something(or in the case of Jimmy Martin, Monroe, etc) runs the risk of losing respect or love or interest for it. Educating oneself is admirable, but it does sometimes put a dimmer light on some things, or has for me. 2) I thought I made it adequately clear that I was all for Nelson's appreciation for Skaggs' music. Finding something that touches the soul and inspires, provides an escape from the turmoil of the day is about as good as it gets. I remember what I felt like when I bought Monroe's records. I used to get the dry heaves before I could get the needle on the platter. The words I lent to Nelson regarding getting acquainted with his heroes were words given to me. I have known of at least a couple instances where artists living here have sought out their heroes to the point of calling them on the phone and showing up at their
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Amen David. Thank you! On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.comwrote: Hear hear david, as we brits say when we hear something we profoundly approve of. Robin 2009/9/27, Robert Feivor rfei...@gmail.com: Glad to see the thread didn't die; let your freak flag fly I say! Now for super freak that gets referenced alot w/Skaggs; surely that was a Hornsby selection no? ;) On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 2:11 PM, David Long bigevemu...@gmail.com wrote: It troubles me to know end how squeamish and sensitive our culture can be in regards to discussions of these matters. The It's all good and If --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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I get to play and sing a number of gospel shows each year. I never preach at these shows nor to I try to convert the flock to my way of thinking (born again atheist) but, if they want to have a discussion I'm always ready, turns out most of them just want to shout slogans at me and have never actually read a book, any book. I sing songs about murder too but have never murdered anyone. I'm not quick to judge, but I have opinions. I've met Mike, met his family, heard his music, (a lot) read an awful lot of what he has written and I judge him to be a good, honest family man with the best handle on the type of music that I like best. I really do want to know his opinions whether I agree or not I know they will be well thought out and his own. I really don't think I'm right all the time, either, or do I. Clyde Clevenger Just My Opinion, But It's Right Salem, Oregon Old Circle --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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I largely agree on Ricky's mandolin playing, and although I don't think it's all cringe-worthy (the would be MY mandolin playing), I do think it's just blahand sometimes just hokey. It could be anybody playing it. What he does best is marketing. The guy is a pure genius at that. That being said, he's an asshat. I saw him in TN and there was some no-pictures rule (wtf--is he Lindsay Lohan or something?) and some folks were largely ignoring that and you could tell Ricky was peeved over it. The band gave an uninspired performance and had a look on his face like he smelled something. Maybe it was me, I dunno. You'd think with that pack of guys he brings onstage that someone would be able to lay it down, but maybe the boss was in a mood. He was also flat. So there. The new CD sounds Pro Tool'd up to me on a lot of the vocals. It's not bad, but it's not good. It's just blah. There's not a tune on it--maybe with the exception of a fiddle tune--that really got me intrigued or made me want to pick up my instrument and learn that mother on the spot. You'd think that hey, this is solo Skaggs doing some old tunes, this might be Skaggs/Rice worthy...but that's a no. Others may have a different impression, and that's fine with me. Some people drink cow urine. To each his own, I says. As far as this group goes, I have loved having it here. There's been more than a few times I would like to have spoken up on the Cafe about a thing or two but hated to get the boot from the mods over there. That's never been a concern here, and I have profited from our discussions here immensely and got a huge kick from it. I keep my email open at work all day and keep my eye on what's going on. I think we can disagree on anything, and as long as no one loses a tooth or has their lineage questioned then we're all good. From: mandoho...@comcast.net mandoho...@comcast.net To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 5:33:59 PM Subject: Re: New Skaggs CD I get to play and sing a number of gospel shows each year. I never preach at these shows nor to I try to convert the flock to my way of thinking (born again atheist) but, if they want to have a discussion I'm always ready, turns out most of them just want to shout slogans at me and have never actually read a book, any book. I sing songs about murder too but have never murdered anyone. I'm not quick to judge, but I have opinions. I've met Mike, met his family, heard his music, (a lot) read an awful lot of what he has written and I judge him to be a good, honest family man with the best handle on the type of music that I like best. I really do want to know his opinions whether I agree or not I know they will be well thought out and his own. I really don't think I'm right all the time, either, or do I. Clyde Clevenger Just My Opinion, But It's Right Salem, Oregon Old Circle --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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thanks David For saying this it really needed to be said. We are so worried about hurting eachothers feelings in this country and world our once thick skin has become paper thin. As you say where would all the greats be if they had been told all of thier lif ethat they were good enough? Dennis www.friendsforlifedogtraining.com When will the madness stop. Spay and Neuter your pets EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:11:21 -0500 Subject: Re: New Skaggs CD From: bigevemu...@gmail.com To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com It troubles me to know end how squeamish and sensitive our culture can be in regards to discussions of these matters. The It's all good and If you don't have any thing nice to say attitudes will continue ruining discussion and argument until the end of time. By all means, put anyone you like on a stage and let them do their dance, but DONT say they have no right to be criticized. Mostly because we not only have a right to express these opinions, but to hear those of others. How would we, as people and musicians for that matter, ever get anywhere without criticism? Yes, it does sometimes come across as junkie energy but if a person has the ability to canonize that into something witty, ironic, or humorous (as Mike does) then it wouldn't always seem so crass and we may be able to get down to business. Our conversation and vocabularies are so poverty stricken that all one has in the barrel is, That sucks, dude followed by an even more pathetic rebuke and then ultimately devolving into fragile, hurt feelings of people that don't even have an arsenal of words or intellect to move discussion forward and understand the idea that a difference of opinion IS NOT INTENTIONALLY INSULTING. Nelson, I hope you realize what a disservice you have done to your playing by removing yourself from Mike's calender. We need people like you. I myself have been on the same receiving end of Mike's tongue several times but had I bailed at the first sign of thunder I dare say my life wouldn't be any different. Good luck. Onto the Scaggs point: I have never net the man, nor do I care to. His music never thrilled me and his manners on stage and television I find appalling. His comment in the Virginia newspaper a few months ago was one of the most galling and fatuous assumptions that I ever heard a performer make. He makes it clearly known that he is a man of faith and preaches at his shows. To me, it's obvious why he and other performers do this. If I, on stage, were to start expressing my opinions about how repulsive I think religion is, I would surely hear from the pulpit. I'd love to quiz Ricky on his biblical literacy some time. When we as performers start thundering about faith, morality, politics, or professional football we immediately make ourselves a hostage to criticism and rebuke. Quite honestly, if I ever met Scaggs, I may find him quite nice and personal and who knows, potential friendship. But like all my closest, dearest and most intelligent friends, we ENJOY the contrast and the clash because we are sufficiently grown up enough to know that we can take it and what may seem tense or awkward at first usually turns into something learned down the line. Criticism is necessary and should be welcome. Those who are willing to let it rest softly in there hearts will be a better man and those who cast it aside and let something trivial get in the way will stagnate, suffer, and find themselves in a frenzy of immobilization. Reporting live, Miles Long On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:31 AM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: I have received email from Nelson offlist and he is of the impression that my post was meant to put him in his place. If that was my point, I'd say yea, be pissed off, because I have no right to tell Nelson or anyone else what to listen to, play, say, blah, blah, blah. Nelson cited the phrase that suggested he was easily impressed... and referenced the sentence that encouraged him to send Skaggs a Xmas card, to go sit on his doorstep. Okay. Two things about that...1) Living in this town where you can't swing a dead cat without hitting somebody that plays half a dozen instruments well or at the least, above average, makes it really hard to be impressed by yet another person that can do the same. Unfortunately, sometimes learning more about something(or in the case of Jimmy Martin, Monroe, etc) runs the risk of losing respect or love or interest for it. Educating oneself is admirable, but it does sometimes put a dimmer light on some things, or has for me. 2) I thought I made it adequately clear that I was all for Nelson's appreciation for Skaggs' music. Finding something that touches the soul and inspires, provides an escape from the turmoil of the day is about as good as it gets. I remember what I felt like when I bought Monroe's records. I used to get the dry
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Glad to see I'm not the only one- I'm an agnostic as far as religious beliefs but also a lover of old-time bluegrass gospel. My wife says it's sacriligious when I sing and play it- but hey- I'm not religious so I don't care. :). I just spent 2 weeks picking out Mr. Compton's version of I'll Fly Away from youtube. Love it! Bill in Nashville On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 4:33 PM, mandoho...@comcast.net wrote: I get to play and sing a number of gospel shows each year. I never preach at these shows nor to I try to convert the flock to my way of thinking (born again atheist) but, if they want to have a discussion I'm always ready, turns out most of them just want to shout slogans at me and have never actually read a book, any book. I sing songs about murder too but have never murdered anyone. I'm not quick to judge, but I have opinions. I've met Mike, met his family, heard his music, (a lot) read an awful lot of what he has written and I judge him to be a good, honest family man with the best handle on the type of music that I like best. I really do want to know his opinions whether I agree or not I know they will be well thought out and his own. I really don't think I'm right all the time, either, or do I. Clyde Clevenger Just My Opinion, But It's Right Salem, Oregon Old Circle http://www.myspace.com/oldcircle --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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My Wife Pam and I hosted a Mandolin workshop with Mike along with Roland White and Rolands wiife Diane. Mike stayed at our house for foour of the longest days of my life. Other than his addiction to E-bay mike is no different from any of us. Yes his suspenders may be a bit tight and he may be folicly challenged like most of us and he can put some chow away. i do have to say i was sad to see him go. Dennis www.friendsforlifedogtraining.com When will the madness stop. Spay and Neuter your pets EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:55:47 -0500 Subject: Re: New Skaggs CD From: bburne...@gmail.com To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Glad to see I'm not the only one- I'm an agnostic as far as religious beliefs but also a lover of old-time bluegrass gospel. My wife says it's sacriligious when I sing and play it- but hey- I'm not religious so I don't care. :). I just spent 2 weeks picking out Mr. Compton's version of I'll Fly Away from youtube. Love it! Bill in Nashville On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 4:33 PM, mandoho...@comcast.net wrote: I get to play and sing a number of gospel shows each year. I never preach at these shows nor to I try to convert the flock to my way of thinking (born again atheist) but, if they want to have a discussion I'm always ready, turns out most of them just want to shout slogans at me and have never actually read a book, any book. I sing songs about murder too but have never murdered anyone. I'm not quick to judge, but I have opinions. I've met Mike, met his family, heard his music, (a lot) read an awful lot of what he has written and I judge him to be a good, honest family man with the best handle on the type of music that I like best. I really do want to know his opinions whether I agree or not I know they will be well thought out and his own. I really don't think I'm right all the time, either, or do I. Clyde Clevenger Just My Opinion, But It's Right Salem, Oregon Old Circle --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Sounds very sad, and from your message, very frustrating. What a shame that he couldn't give his talent to the Monroe camp, despite your honest efforts to get through to him. Did you mention you were a Taterbugger? On the upside, yes this list is the only one I have ever been on where I feel free to say whatever absurd thought is in my head and know that the participants are sufficiently adult and human to realise that having a certain amount of passion for something means that you may be surreal, very intense and serious, plain stupid, rude, silly and wise without it being necessary to question motives or integrity. Chapeau Monsieur Tater On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 11:58 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote: Nelson, I think a lot of this is being done in fun, but some is a thin veil to a more serious issue, that being what I'd guess to be a growing intolerance for Ricky's attitude. I have been told by more than a few people that Ricky was downright rude to them in face to face situations, not to mention him talking down to an entire crowd. One member of this group was called sonny by Skaggs once in very condescending manner. Then, you have the damned ongoing father of bluegrass issue. Who in hell wants to hear that shit anymore? I tried for decades to play everything Bill played, only to find I can't do it. There's nothing I'd like better than to have his commitment and powerful musical mind, but I'm not a Bill Monroe. There was only one, there will only be ONE. Nobody else can play like the man, no one else (in the bluegrass field) had his creative depth and showmanship. Bill was king in his time. For the style of music he played and sang, no one else will come close. There are others, were others who stand as tall, I'm sure of it. But I don't have a list. Bill couldn't have been the only one. But Ricky is not one of them. He is very talented, yes. He damned well oughta be considering he's been doing this since he was a kid. No one is trying to deny Ricky his talents and achievements. Indeed, I'd like to have his level of success and position myself. I'd like to have as strong a contact with the driving force as he does. But you gotta know by now that putting one's life in the public eye requires being willing to take more than one's fair share of hits. You might also consider the fact that I asked Ricky repeatedly to contact me about coming to the Monroe Mando Camp this year. After I hounded him (and his father-in-law Buck White) to call me about stepping up to the plate and show us all his best father of bluegrass impersonation, he sent me two lines on his cell phone in a text message saying that he was working on three projects and would not be able to make it. Do you suppose he was so busy that he could not spare part of one weekend to honor the very person whose image he seeks to emulate? If you are easily impressed by people who can play more than one instrument, I can point you to a dozen here just in my own neighborhood (I am NOT one of them, by the way). If Ricky touches a nerve in you, then by God, I say buy everything the man's put out, send him a Xmas card and go hang out on his doorstep. Good for you. But you needn't chastise the rest of the us for having opinions about the man's motives. As far as addressing things in this group, we do not have nor need a mediator. That's one of the reasons I set it up this way. Everybody says what they want to. Period. If one of us smells something he/she thinks smells like shit, then it's fair game. By the same token, you brought us something that you liked and we're grateful for it. I'm sure that even some of the ones commenting here will go out and buy the album. If you want a kinder gentler crowd, I'm sure Commando's door is open. Best I remember, they were nice and PC over there. Instiga-tater On Sep 23, 9:08 am, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: Some of the nastiness in this thread makes me think some of us need to contact that BDSM lady for a spanking or two! On Sep 23, 8:28 am, Mike Romkey rom...@qconline.com wrote: And you thought Skaggs knew now to turn a buck! On Sep 23, 2009, at 6:39 AM, Dasspunk wrote: Wow, bigevemusic.com [NWF] has really gone through some changes... eek! B On Sep 22, 7:12 pm, Bigevemusic bigevemu...@gmail.com wrote: Yep Reporting live from Bean Blossom. Miles Sent from my iPhone On Sep 22, 2009, at 5:58 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: Izzatchoomiles? On Sep 22, 2:33 pm, David Long bigevemu...@gmail.com wrote: How about, Songs I would listen to when I come up with the utterly fatuous notion that I am a leader of a group of people that do not require any sort of leadership whatsoever? Song list: Under My Thumb I'm the Boss of This Here House Loser (Beck) Follow ME You get the picture. David
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Take me off your lessons calendar. I don't need this hit. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:58:25 To: Taterbugmandotaterbugmando@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New Skaggs CD Nelson, I think a lot of this is being done in fun, but some is a thin veil to a more serious issue, that being what I'd guess to be a growing intolerance for Ricky's attitude. I have been told by more than a few people that Ricky was downright rude to them in face to face situations, not to mention him talking down to an entire crowd. One member of this group was called sonny by Skaggs once in very condescending manner. Then, you have the damned ongoing father of bluegrass issue. Who in hell wants to hear that shit anymore? I tried for decades to play everything Bill played, only to find I can't do it. There's nothing I'd like better than to have his commitment and powerful musical mind, but I'm not a Bill Monroe. There was only one, there will only be ONE. Nobody else can play like the man, no one else (in the bluegrass field) had his creative depth and showmanship. Bill was king in his time. For the style of music he played and sang, no one else will come close. There are others, were others who stand as tall, I'm sure of it. But I don't have a list. Bill couldn't have been the only one. But Ricky is not one of them. He is very talented, yes. He damned well oughta be considering he's been doing this since he was a kid. No one is trying to deny Ricky his talents and achievements. Indeed, I'd like to have his level of success and position myself. I'd like to have as strong a contact with the driving force as he does. But you gotta know by now that putting one's life in the public eye requires being willing to take more than one's fair share of hits. You might also consider the fact that I asked Ricky repeatedly to contact me about coming to the Monroe Mando Camp this year. After I hounded him (and his father-in-law Buck White) to call me about stepping up to the plate and show us all his best father of bluegrass impersonation, he sent me two lines on his cell phone in a text message saying that he was working on three projects and would not be able to make it. Do you suppose he was so busy that he could not spare part of one weekend to honor the very person whose image he seeks to emulate? If you are easily impressed by people who can play more than one instrument, I can point you to a dozen here just in my own neighborhood (I am NOT one of them, by the way). If Ricky touches a nerve in you, then by God, I say buy everything the man's put out, send him a Xmas card and go hang out on his doorstep. Good for you. But you needn't chastise the rest of the us for having opinions about the man's motives. As far as addressing things in this group, we do not have nor need a mediator. That's one of the reasons I set it up this way. Everybody says what they want to. Period. If one of us smells something he/she thinks smells like shit, then it's fair game. By the same token, you brought us something that you liked and we're grateful for it. I'm sure that even some of the ones commenting here will go out and buy the album. If you want a kinder gentler crowd, I'm sure Commando's door is open. Best I remember, they were nice and PC over there. Instiga-tater On Sep 23, 9:08 am, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: Some of the nastiness in this thread makes me think some of us need to contact that BDSM lady for a spanking or two! On Sep 23, 8:28 am, Mike Romkey rom...@qconline.com wrote: And you thought Skaggs knew now to turn a buck! On Sep 23, 2009, at 6:39 AM, Dasspunk wrote: Wow, bigevemusic.com [NWF] has really gone through some changes... eek! B On Sep 22, 7:12 pm, Bigevemusic bigevemu...@gmail.com wrote: Yep Reporting live from Bean Blossom. Miles Sent from my iPhone On Sep 22, 2009, at 5:58 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: Izzatchoomiles? On Sep 22, 2:33 pm, David Long bigevemu...@gmail.com wrote: How about, Songs I would listen to when I come up with the utterly fatuous notion that I am a leader of a group of people that do not require any sort of leadership whatsoever? Song list: Under My Thumb I'm the Boss of This Here House Loser (Beck) Follow ME You get the picture. David On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 3:18 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote: My lands, what's next? Ricky Skaggs and KY Thundermug do Truck Driving Songs That Made Momma Cry... Might be a good time to revive some good old Iron Butterfly hits. But I'm not sure how In A Gadda da Vida would lay out on the banjer. Taterfly On Sep 22, 9:09 am, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: I hope this is o.k. to address in this group. I bought the cd Songs My Dad Loved last week and have been listening
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don't do it On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 12:50 AM, nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: make that 'shit'. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:39:17 To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New Skaggs CD Take me off your lessons calendar. I don't need this hit. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:58:25 To: Taterbugmandotaterbugmando@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New Skaggs CD Nelson, I think a lot of this is being done in fun, but some is a thin veil to a more serious issue, that being what I'd guess to be a growing intolerance for Ricky's attitude. I have been told by more than a few people that Ricky was downright rude to them in face to face situations, not to mention him talking down to an entire crowd. One member of this group was called sonny by Skaggs once in very condescending manner. Then, you have the damned ongoing father of bluegrass issue. Who in hell wants to hear that shit anymore? I tried for decades to play everything Bill played, only to find I can't do it. There's nothing I'd like better than to have his commitment and powerful musical mind, but I'm not a Bill Monroe. There was only one, there will only be ONE. Nobody else can play like the man, no one else (in the bluegrass field) had his creative depth and showmanship. Bill was king in his time. For the style of music he played and sang, no one else will come close. There are others, were others who stand as tall, I'm sure of it. But I don't have a list. Bill couldn't have been the only one. But Ricky is not one of them. He is very talented, yes. He damned well oughta be considering he's been doing this since he was a kid. No one is trying to deny Ricky his talents and achievements. Indeed, I'd like to have his level of success and position myself. I'd like to have as strong a contact with the driving force as he does. But you gotta know by now that putting one's life in the public eye requires being willing to take more than one's fair share of hits. You might also consider the fact that I asked Ricky repeatedly to contact me about coming to the Monroe Mando Camp this year. After I hounded him (and his father-in-law Buck White) to call me about stepping up to the plate and show us all his best father of bluegrass impersonation, he sent me two lines on his cell phone in a text message saying that he was working on three projects and would not be able to make it. Do you suppose he was so busy that he could not spare part of one weekend to honor the very person whose image he seeks to emulate? If you are easily impressed by people who can play more than one instrument, I can point you to a dozen here just in my own neighborhood (I am NOT one of them, by the way). If Ricky touches a nerve in you, then by God, I say buy everything the man's put out, send him a Xmas card and go hang out on his doorstep. Good for you. But you needn't chastise the rest of the us for having opinions about the man's motives. As far as addressing things in this group, we do not have nor need a mediator. That's one of the reasons I set it up this way. Everybody says what they want to. Period. If one of us smells something he/she thinks smells like shit, then it's fair game. By the same token, you brought us something that you liked and we're grateful for it. I'm sure that even some of the ones commenting here will go out and buy the album. If you want a kinder gentler crowd, I'm sure Commando's door is open. Best I remember, they were nice and PC over there. Instiga-tater On Sep 23, 9:08 am, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: Some of the nastiness in this thread makes me think some of us need to contact that BDSM lady for a spanking or two! On Sep 23, 8:28 am, Mike Romkey rom...@qconline.com wrote: And you thought Skaggs knew now to turn a buck! On Sep 23, 2009, at 6:39 AM, Dasspunk wrote: Wow, bigevemusic.com [NWF] has really gone through some changes... eek! B On Sep 22, 7:12 pm, Bigevemusic bigevemu...@gmail.com wrote: Yep Reporting live from Bean Blossom. Miles Sent from my iPhone On Sep 22, 2009, at 5:58 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: Izzatchoomiles? On Sep 22, 2:33 pm, David Long bigevemu...@gmail.com wrote: How about, Songs I would listen to when I come up with the utterly fatuous notion that I am a leader of a group of people that do not require any sort of leadership whatsoever? Song list: Under My Thumb I'm the Boss of This Here House Loser (Beck) Follow ME You get the picture. David On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 3:18 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote: My lands, what's next? Ricky
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Wow, I have mostly been lurking for a few weeks- posted once or twice, but I've been following this thread and I must say I can't see what got your panties in such a bunch. Bill in Nashville On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 5:39 PM, nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: Take me off your lessons calendar. I don't need this hit. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:58:25 To: Taterbugmandotaterbugmando@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New Skaggs CD Nelson, I think a lot of this is being done in fun, but some is a thin veil to a more serious issue, that being what I'd guess to be a growing intolerance for Ricky's attitude. I have been told by more than a few people that Ricky was downright rude to them in face to face situations, not to mention him talking down to an entire crowd. One member of this group was called sonny by Skaggs once in very condescending manner. Then, you have the damned ongoing father of bluegrass issue. Who in hell wants to hear that shit anymore? I tried for decades to play everything Bill played, only to find I can't do it. There's nothing I'd like better than to have his commitment and powerful musical mind, but I'm not a Bill Monroe. There was only one, there will only be ONE. Nobody else can play like the man, no one else (in the bluegrass field) had his creative depth and showmanship. Bill was king in his time. For the style of music he played and sang, no one else will come close. There are others, were others who stand as tall, I'm sure of it. But I don't have a list. Bill couldn't have been the only one. But Ricky is not one of them. He is very talented, yes. He damned well oughta be considering he's been doing this since he was a kid. No one is trying to deny Ricky his talents and achievements. Indeed, I'd like to have his level of success and position myself. I'd like to have as strong a contact with the driving force as he does. But you gotta know by now that putting one's life in the public eye requires being willing to take more than one's fair share of hits. You might also consider the fact that I asked Ricky repeatedly to contact me about coming to the Monroe Mando Camp this year. After I hounded him (and his father-in-law Buck White) to call me about stepping up to the plate and show us all his best father of bluegrass impersonation, he sent me two lines on his cell phone in a text message saying that he was working on three projects and would not be able to make it. Do you suppose he was so busy that he could not spare part of one weekend to honor the very person whose image he seeks to emulate? If you are easily impressed by people who can play more than one instrument, I can point you to a dozen here just in my own neighborhood (I am NOT one of them, by the way). If Ricky touches a nerve in you, then by God, I say buy everything the man's put out, send him a Xmas card and go hang out on his doorstep. Good for you. But you needn't chastise the rest of the us for having opinions about the man's motives. As far as addressing things in this group, we do not have nor need a mediator. That's one of the reasons I set it up this way. Everybody says what they want to. Period. If one of us smells something he/she thinks smells like shit, then it's fair game. By the same token, you brought us something that you liked and we're grateful for it. I'm sure that even some of the ones commenting here will go out and buy the album. If you want a kinder gentler crowd, I'm sure Commando's door is open. Best I remember, they were nice and PC over there. Instiga-tater On Sep 23, 9:08 am, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: Some of the nastiness in this thread makes me think some of us need to contact that BDSM lady for a spanking or two! On Sep 23, 8:28 am, Mike Romkey rom...@qconline.com wrote: And you thought Skaggs knew now to turn a buck! On Sep 23, 2009, at 6:39 AM, Dasspunk wrote: Wow, bigevemusic.com [NWF] has really gone through some changes... eek! B On Sep 22, 7:12 pm, Bigevemusic bigevemu...@gmail.com wrote: Yep Reporting live from Bean Blossom. Miles Sent from my iPhone On Sep 22, 2009, at 5:58 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: Izzatchoomiles? On Sep 22, 2:33 pm, David Long bigevemu...@gmail.com wrote: How about, Songs I would listen to when I come up with the utterly fatuous notion that I am a leader of a group of people that do not require any sort of leadership whatsoever? Song list: Under My Thumb I'm the Boss of This Here House Loser (Beck) Follow ME You get the picture. David On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 3:18 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote: My lands, what's next? Ricky Skaggs and KY Thundermug do Truck Driving Songs
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Just call it as I see it... Bill in Nashville On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 7:54 PM, nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: I have not had a problem, quite honestly, until I got Tater's email today. None of you know me, so you don't know that I am rarely ever very serious. It does peeve me a bit that people jump on skaggs so easily, but to each his own... And, Bill, don't assume everyone wears the same drawers you do. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- *From*: Bill Burnette *Date*: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:18:44 -0500 *To*: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com *Subject*: Re: New Skaggs CD Wow, I have mostly been lurking for a few weeks- posted once or twice, but I've been following this thread and I must say I can't see what got your panties in such a bunch. Bill in Nashville On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 5:39 PM, nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: Take me off your lessons calendar. I don't need this hit. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:58:25 To: Taterbugmandotaterbugmando@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New Skaggs CD Nelson, I think a lot of this is being done in fun, but some is a thin veil to a more serious issue, that being what I'd guess to be a growing intolerance for Ricky's attitude. I have been told by more than a few people that Ricky was downright rude to them in face to face situations, not to mention him talking down to an entire crowd. One member of this group was called sonny by Skaggs once in very condescending manner. Then, you have the damned ongoing father of bluegrass issue. Who in hell wants to hear that shit anymore? I tried for decades to play everything Bill played, only to find I can't do it. There's nothing I'd like better than to have his commitment and powerful musical mind, but I'm not a Bill Monroe. There was only one, there will only be ONE. Nobody else can play like the man, no one else (in the bluegrass field) had his creative depth and showmanship. Bill was king in his time. For the style of music he played and sang, no one else will come close. There are others, were others who stand as tall, I'm sure of it. But I don't have a list. Bill couldn't have been the only one. But Ricky is not one of them. He is very talented, yes. He damned well oughta be considering he's been doing this since he was a kid. No one is trying to deny Ricky his talents and achievements. Indeed, I'd like to have his level of success and position myself. I'd like to have as strong a contact with the driving force as he does. But you gotta know by now that putting one's life in the public eye requires being willing to take more than one's fair share of hits. You might also consider the fact that I asked Ricky repeatedly to contact me about coming to the Monroe Mando Camp this year. After I hounded him (and his father-in-law Buck White) to call me about stepping up to the plate and show us all his best father of bluegrass impersonation, he sent me two lines on his cell phone in a text message saying that he was working on three projects and would not be able to make it. Do you suppose he was so busy that he could not spare part of one weekend to honor the very person whose image he seeks to emulate? If you are easily impressed by people who can play more than one instrument, I can point you to a dozen here just in my own neighborhood (I am NOT one of them, by the way). If Ricky touches a nerve in you, then by God, I say buy everything the man's put out, send him a Xmas card and go hang out on his doorstep. Good for you. But you needn't chastise the rest of the us for having opinions about the man's motives. As far as addressing things in this group, we do not have nor need a mediator. That's one of the reasons I set it up this way. Everybody says what they want to. Period. If one of us smells something he/she thinks smells like shit, then it's fair game. By the same token, you brought us something that you liked and we're grateful for it. I'm sure that even some of the ones commenting here will go out and buy the album. If you want a kinder gentler crowd, I'm sure Commando's door is open. Best I remember, they were nice and PC over there. Instiga-tater On Sep 23, 9:08 am, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: Some of the nastiness in this thread makes me think some of us need to contact that BDSM lady for a spanking or two! On Sep 23, 8:28 am, Mike Romkey rom...@qconline.com wrote: And you thought Skaggs knew now to turn a buck! On Sep 23, 2009, at 6:39 AM, Dasspunk wrote: Wow, bigevemusic.com [NWF] has really gone through some changes... eek! B On Sep 22, 7:12 pm, Bigevemusic bigevemu...@gmail.com wrote: Yep Reporting live from Bean Blossom. Miles Sent from my iPhone On Sep 22, 2009, at 5:58 PM, mistertaterbug
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I always thought taste...in food and music and other things in life are an individual matter, and each person in that way gets to like what they like and not like what they don't like. After all we are all different and its not necessary to always agree to still find common ground. Its way too easy in written communications to take things in a way not intended. As for the dude ..being discussed, I have not seen much of his work, only a few you tube offerings and as a rank outsider to the finer points of bluegrass he seems a great leader or front man on stage at least, seems he has a good singing voice, has showmanship, has experienced a bit of success with it, and he is well known in the bluegrass circles, but as for his mando playing, its not my favorite, he seems to skim over the top of the best licks and on those takes I can't really hear what he is doing with his mando, but that is just me, and since I know so little I don't think my opinion really counts much. I have not seen any 2009 Mando camp you tube offerings yet but it did me good to see all those well known, talented folks play The Kentucky Waltz, on the You Tube video offered on the Mando Camp site. It eased my mind while dealing with aspects of ...no chance to go there myself, as I would so much have liked to. So many outstanding players all in the one spot, all holding a mandolin and all knowing seriously what to do with it!! Every one an inspiration. We can't know for sure his motivations for refusing to participate in a given event. I am for peace and reconciliation and pretty music!! On Sep 27, 10:58 am, Bill Burnette bburne...@gmail.com wrote: Just call it as I see it... Bill in Nashville On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 7:54 PM, nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: I have not had a problem, quite honestly, until I got Tater's email today. None of you know me, so you don't know that I am rarely ever very serious. It does peeve me a bit that people jump on skaggs so easily, but to each his own... And, Bill, don't assume everyone wears the same drawers you do. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- *From*: Bill Burnette *Date*: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:18:44 -0500 *To*: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com *Subject*: Re: New Skaggs CD Wow, I have mostly been lurking for a few weeks- posted once or twice, but I've been following this thread and I must say I can't see what got your panties in such a bunch. Bill in Nashville On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 5:39 PM, nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: Take me off your lessons calendar. I don't need this hit. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:58:25 To: Taterbugmandotaterbugmando@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New Skaggs CD Nelson, I think a lot of this is being done in fun, but some is a thin veil to a more serious issue, that being what I'd guess to be a growing intolerance for Ricky's attitude. I have been told by more than a few people that Ricky was downright rude to them in face to face situations, not to mention him talking down to an entire crowd. One member of this group was called sonny by Skaggs once in very condescending manner. Then, you have the damned ongoing father of bluegrass issue. Who in hell wants to hear that shit anymore? I tried for decades to play everything Bill played, only to find I can't do it. There's nothing I'd like better than to have his commitment and powerful musical mind, but I'm not a Bill Monroe. There was only one, there will only be ONE. Nobody else can play like the man, no one else (in the bluegrass field) had his creative depth and showmanship. Bill was king in his time. For the style of music he played and sang, no one else will come close. There are others, were others who stand as tall, I'm sure of it. But I don't have a list. Bill couldn't have been the only one. But Ricky is not one of them. He is very talented, yes. He damned well oughta be considering he's been doing this since he was a kid. No one is trying to deny Ricky his talents and achievements. Indeed, I'd like to have his level of success and position myself. I'd like to have as strong a contact with the driving force as he does. But you gotta know by now that putting one's life in the public eye requires being willing to take more than one's fair share of hits. You might also consider the fact that I asked Ricky repeatedly to contact me about coming to the Monroe Mando Camp this year. After I hounded him (and his father-in-law Buck White) to call me about stepping up to the plate and show us all his best father of bluegrass impersonation, he sent me two lines on his cell phone in a text message saying that he was working on three projects and would not be able to make it. Do you suppose he was so busy that he could not spare part of one
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Wow, bigevemusic.com [NWF] has really gone through some changes... eek! B On Sep 22, 7:12 pm, Bigevemusic bigevemu...@gmail.com wrote: Yep Reporting live from Bean Blossom. Miles Sent from my iPhone On Sep 22, 2009, at 5:58 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: Izzatchoomiles? On Sep 22, 2:33 pm, David Long bigevemu...@gmail.com wrote: How about, Songs I would listen to when I come up with the utterly fatuous notion that I am a leader of a group of people that do not require any sort of leadership whatsoever? Song list: Under My Thumb I'm the Boss of This Here House Loser (Beck) Follow ME You get the picture. David On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 3:18 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote: My lands, what's next? Ricky Skaggs and KY Thundermug do Truck Driving Songs That Made Momma Cry... Might be a good time to revive some good old Iron Butterfly hits. But I'm not sure how In A Gadda da Vida would lay out on the banjer. Taterfly On Sep 22, 9:09 am, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: I hope this is o.k. to address in this group. I bought the cd Songs My Dad Loved last week and have been listening to it quite a bit. It is really very good. The personal nature of the effort comes through in a very understated, nice way; there is a simplicity to it that appeals to me. There are very few, instrumental breaks, and the arrangements are limited to one or two instruments on most tracks. It has an old-time flavor without being an old-time disc, you might say. No banjo players were harmed in the making of this message. Maybe next time --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Ricky Skaggs is the Al Haig of bluegrass music... I am in control here On Sep 22, 3:51 pm, Terry Bullin tbull...@yahoo.com wrote: LOL --- On Tue, 9/22/09, David Long bigevemu...@gmail.com wrote: From: David Long bigevemu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: New Skaggs CD To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 3:33 PM How about, Songs I would listen to when I come up with the utterly fatuous notion that I am a leader of a group of people that do not require any sort of leadership whatsoever? Song list: Under My Thumb I'm the Boss of This Here House Loser (Beck) Follow ME You get the picture. David On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 3:18 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: My lands, what's next? Ricky Skaggs and KY Thundermug do Truck Driving Songs That Made Momma Cry... Might be a good time to revive some good old Iron Butterfly hits. But I'm not sure how In A Gadda da Vida would lay out on the banjer. Taterfly On Sep 22, 9:09 am, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: I hope this is o.k. to address in this group. I bought the cd Songs My Dad Loved last week and have been listening to it quite a bit. It is really very good. The personal nature of the effort comes through in a very understated, nice way; there is a simplicity to it that appeals to me. There are very few, instrumental breaks, and the arrangements are limited to one or two instruments on most tracks. It has an old-time flavor without being an old-time disc, you might say. No banjo players were harmed in the making of this message. Maybe next time --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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see what happens when you don't renew your domain name? i hope big eve never sees that, then again he may think it's pretty hilarious. btw, if anyone is going to uncle penn days, make sure to say hi. miles On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:18 AM, erik berry eberr...@gmail.com wrote: Y'know, I never thought I'd read the phrase contact that BDSM lady for a spanking on a mandolin oriented group. Never thought I'd read BDSM lady either, heh. Hey Nelson, does Skaggs play the mandocello he's pictured playing on the cover? Is it cool? erik On Sep 23, 9:08 am, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: Some of the nastiness in this thread makes me think some of us need to contact that BDSM lady for a spanking or two! On Sep 23, 8:28 am, Mike Romkey rom...@qconline.com wrote: And you thought Skaggs knew now to turn a buck! On Sep 23, 2009, at 6:39 AM, Dasspunk wrote: Wow, bigevemusic.com [NWF] has really gone through some changes... eek! B On Sep 22, 7:12 pm, Bigevemusic bigevemu...@gmail.com wrote: Yep Reporting live from Bean Blossom. Miles Sent from my iPhone On Sep 22, 2009, at 5:58 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: Izzatchoomiles? On Sep 22, 2:33 pm, David Long bigevemu...@gmail.com wrote: How about, Songs I would listen to when I come up with the utterly fatuous notion that I am a leader of a group of people that do not require any sort of leadership whatsoever? Song list: Under My Thumb I'm the Boss of This Here House Loser (Beck) Follow ME You get the picture. David On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 3:18 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote: My lands, what's next? Ricky Skaggs and KY Thundermug do Truck Driving Songs That Made Momma Cry... Might be a good time to revive some good old Iron Butterfly hits. But I'm not sure how In A Gadda da Vida would lay out on the banjer. Taterfly On Sep 22, 9:09 am, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: I hope this is o.k. to address in this group. I bought the cd Songs My Dad Loved last week and have been listening to it quite a bit. It is really very good. The personal nature of the effort comes through in a very understated, nice way; there is a simplicity to it that appeals to me. There are very few, instrumental breaks, and the arrangements are limited to one or two instruments on most tracks. It has an old-time flavor without being an old-time disc, you might say. No banjo players were harmed in the making of this message. Maybe next time- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Skaggs CD
Erik, He plays 12+ instruments on the disc, including the mandocello. They are all well done, especially the OT banjo, in my opinion. Nelson On Sep 23, 9:47 am, 14strings perrypale...@gmail.com wrote: I hope this is o.k. to address in this group. Nelson I guess it's not okay LOL.. I have the CD and it's a good one; I like how it's not overly drenched in reverb or over production. On another note I was at a Cracker Barrel and picked up their Bluegrass Train Songs CD (no MC on this one) It has Sam and Ronnie playing mandolin.I can usually hear those two guys styles but so far I'm having trouble picking out whose playing when. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Skaggs CD
Does it say who made the mandocello on the CD cover? On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: Erik, He plays 12+ instruments on the disc, including the mandocello. They are all well done, especially the OT banjo, in my opinion. Nelson On Sep 23, 9:47 am, 14strings perrypale...@gmail.com wrote: I hope this is o.k. to address in this group. Nelson I guess it's not okay LOL.. I have the CD and it's a good one; I like how it's not overly drenched in reverb or over production. On another note I was at a Cracker Barrel and picked up their Bluegrass Train Songs CD (no MC on this one) It has Sam and Ronnie playing mandolin.I can usually hear those two guys styles but so far I'm having trouble picking out whose playing when. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Skaggs CD
I looked at some Capek mandolins in Brighton (at the only mandolin shop in Europe worth going to), but got a Lebeda instead. As it was the first time I had been in a shop that had more than one mandolin, my criteria were not very well developed, but they were the top two in my price range for my limited ears. Both are from the Czech republic and thus have Euro prices, and also are pretty well rated as far as I hear. I like my Lebeda, but also keep playing the lottery... I think the Czech instruments rely on the longstanding knowledge of fiddle woods and construction that come from that area near the mountains: apparently a lot of the Italian violin makers used woods from what is now the Czech Republic on the north side of the Alps. I think Skaggs met Mr. Capek and has offered plenty of support for his instruments, as well as taking away a mandola. Don't know about a 'cello. Best Robin On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: In the liner notes, he offers special thanks to Capek Mandolins- Mandocellos. Since he plays Gibson mandolins (and mentions that in the notes), I would guess it is a Capek. On Sep 23, 12:00 pm, Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote: Does it say who made the mandocello on the CD cover? On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: Erik, He plays 12+ instruments on the disc, including the mandocello. They are all well done, especially the OT banjo, in my opinion. Nelson On Sep 23, 9:47 am, 14strings perrypale...@gmail.com wrote: I hope this is o.k. to address in this group. Nelson I guess it's not okay LOL.. I have the CD and it's a good one; I like how it's not overly drenched in reverb or over production. On another note I was at a Cracker Barrel and picked up their Bluegrass Train Songs CD (no MC on this one) It has Sam and Ronnie playing mandolin.I can usually hear those two guys styles but so far I'm having trouble picking out whose playing when.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Skaggs CD
I might check it out, if someone can confirm there are no Rick James tunes on the record. (g) Rick James: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75qXUfp4wtw Ricky Rick James Skaggs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFfbtaMFcW8 On Sep 22, 2009, at 9:09 AM, Nelson wrote: I hope this is o.k. to address in this group. I bought the cd Songs My Dad Loved last week and have been listening to it quite a bit. It is really very good. The personal nature of the effort comes through in a very understated, nice way; there is a simplicity to it that appeals to me. There are very few, instrumental breaks, and the arrangements are limited to one or two instruments on most tracks. It has an old-time flavor without being an old-time disc, you might say. No banjo players were harmed in the making of this message. Maybe next time --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Skaggs CD
The words Ricky Skaggs and Superfreak are now burned into my mind's eye with little hope of removal. Out! Get out! From: Mike Romkey rom...@qconline.com To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:37:09 AM Subject: Re: New Skaggs CD I might check it out, if someone can confirm there are no Rick James tunes on the record. (g) Rick James: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75qXUfp4wtw Ricky Rick James Skaggs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFfbtaMFcW8 On Sep 22, 2009, at 9:09 AM, Nelson wrote: I hope this is o.k. to address in this group. I bought the cd Songs My Dad Loved last week and have been listening to it quite a bit. It is really very good. The personal nature of the effort comes through in a very understated, nice way; there is a simplicity to it that appeals to me. There are very few, instrumental breaks, and the arrangements are limited to one or two instruments on most tracks. It has an old-time flavor without being an old-time disc, you might say. No banjo players were harmed in the making of this message. Maybe next time --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Skaggs CD
I'm ricky skaggs, biiyaach? 2009/9/22, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net: The words Ricky Skaggs and Superfreak are now burned into my mind's eye with little hope of removal. Out! Get out! From: Mike Romkey rom...@qconline.com To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:37:09 AM Subject: Re: New Skaggs CD I might check it out, if someone can confirm there are no Rick James tunes on the record. (g) Rick James: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75qXUfp4wtw Ricky Rick James Skaggs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFfbtaMFcW8 On Sep 22, 2009, at 9:09 AM, Nelson wrote: I hope this is o.k. to address in this group. I bought the cd Songs My Dad Loved last week and have been listening to it quite a bit. It is really very good. The personal nature of the effort comes through in a very understated, nice way; there is a simplicity to it that appeals to me. There are very few, instrumental breaks, and the arrangements are limited to one or two instruments on most tracks. It has an old-time flavor without being an old-time disc, you might say. No banjo players were harmed in the making of this message. Maybe next time -- Enviado desde mi dispositivo móvil --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Skaggs CD
LOL --- On Tue, 9/22/09, David Long bigevemu...@gmail.com wrote: From: David Long bigevemu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: New Skaggs CD To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 3:33 PM How about, Songs I would listen to when I come up with the utterly fatuous notion that I am a leader of a group of people that do not require any sort of leadership whatsoever? Song list: Under My Thumb I'm the Boss of This Here House Loser (Beck) Follow ME You get the picture. David On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 3:18 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: My lands, what's next? Ricky Skaggs and KY Thundermug do Truck Driving Songs That Made Momma Cry... Might be a good time to revive some good old Iron Butterfly hits. But I'm not sure how In A Gadda da Vida would lay out on the banjer. Taterfly On Sep 22, 9:09 am, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: I hope this is o.k. to address in this group. I bought the cd Songs My Dad Loved last week and have been listening to it quite a bit. It is really very good. The personal nature of the effort comes through in a very understated, nice way; there is a simplicity to it that appeals to me. There are very few, instrumental breaks, and the arrangements are limited to one or two instruments on most tracks. It has an old-time flavor without being an old-time disc, you might say. No banjo players were harmed in the making of this message. Maybe next time --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Skaggs CD
Ricky, I'm really happy for you, and I'm gonna let you finish, but Bill Monroe was the best Father of Bluegrass of all time! B On Sep 22, 2:33 pm, David Long bigevemu...@gmail.com wrote: How about, Songs I would listen to when I come up with the utterly fatuous notion that I am a leader of a group of people that do not require any sort of leadership whatsoever? Song list: Under My Thumb I'm the Boss of This Here House Loser (Beck) Follow ME You get the picture. David On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 3:18 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote: My lands, what's next? Ricky Skaggs and KY Thundermug do Truck Driving Songs That Made Momma Cry... Might be a good time to revive some good old Iron Butterfly hits. But I'm not sure how In A Gadda da Vida would lay out on the banjer. Taterfly On Sep 22, 9:09 am, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: I hope this is o.k. to address in this group. I bought the cd Songs My Dad Loved last week and have been listening to it quite a bit. It is really very good. The personal nature of the effort comes through in a very understated, nice way; there is a simplicity to it that appeals to me. There are very few, instrumental breaks, and the arrangements are limited to one or two instruments on most tracks. It has an old-time flavor without being an old-time disc, you might say. No banjo players were harmed in the making of this message. Maybe next time --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Skaggs CD
OK, I've already joined the pile on, but in the spirit of fairness, I still think THIS is a cool video with R.S. in a supporting role! http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individualVideoID=47626085 The B-roll (there's a link at the above site) for this has Ricky trying to remember how to play Happy Foot, one of my favorite Russ Barenberg tunes, on an old A. On Sep 22, 2009, at 2:33 PM, David Long wrote: How about, Songs I would listen to when I come up with the utterly fatuous notion that I am a leader of a group of people that do not require any sort of leadership whatsoever? Song list: Under My Thumb I'm the Boss of This Here House Loser (Beck) Follow ME You get the picture. David On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 3:18 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: My lands, what's next? Ricky Skaggs and KY Thundermug do Truck Driving Songs That Made Momma Cry... Might be a good time to revive some good old Iron Butterfly hits. But I'm not sure how In A Gadda da Vida would lay out on the banjer. Taterfly On Sep 22, 9:09 am, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: I hope this is o.k. to address in this group. I bought the cd Songs My Dad Loved last week and have been listening to it quite a bit. It is really very good. The personal nature of the effort comes through in a very understated, nice way; there is a simplicity to it that appeals to me. There are very few, instrumental breaks, and the arrangements are limited to one or two instruments on most tracks. It has an old-time flavor without being an old-time disc, you might say. No banjo players were harmed in the making of this message. Maybe next time --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Skaggs CD
Izzatchoomiles? On Sep 22, 2:33 pm, David Long bigevemu...@gmail.com wrote: How about, Songs I would listen to when I come up with the utterly fatuous notion that I am a leader of a group of people that do not require any sort of leadership whatsoever? Song list: Under My Thumb I'm the Boss of This Here House Loser (Beck) Follow ME You get the picture. David On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 3:18 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote: My lands, what's next? Ricky Skaggs and KY Thundermug do Truck Driving Songs That Made Momma Cry... Might be a good time to revive some good old Iron Butterfly hits. But I'm not sure how In A Gadda da Vida would lay out on the banjer. Taterfly On Sep 22, 9:09 am, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: I hope this is o.k. to address in this group. I bought the cd Songs My Dad Loved last week and have been listening to it quite a bit. It is really very good. The personal nature of the effort comes through in a very understated, nice way; there is a simplicity to it that appeals to me. There are very few, instrumental breaks, and the arrangements are limited to one or two instruments on most tracks. It has an old-time flavor without being an old-time disc, you might say. No banjo players were harmed in the making of this message. Maybe next time --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Skaggs CD
Yep Reporting live from Bean Blossom. Miles Sent from my iPhone On Sep 22, 2009, at 5:58 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: Izzatchoomiles? On Sep 22, 2:33 pm, David Long bigevemu...@gmail.com wrote: How about, Songs I would listen to when I come up with the utterly fatuous notion that I am a leader of a group of people that do not require any sort of leadership whatsoever? Song list: Under My Thumb I'm the Boss of This Here House Loser (Beck) Follow ME You get the picture. David On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 3:18 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote: My lands, what's next? Ricky Skaggs and KY Thundermug do Truck Driving Songs That Made Momma Cry... Might be a good time to revive some good old Iron Butterfly hits. But I'm not sure how In A Gadda da Vida would lay out on the banjer. Taterfly On Sep 22, 9:09 am, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: I hope this is o.k. to address in this group. I bought the cd Songs My Dad Loved last week and have been listening to it quite a bit. It is really very good. The personal nature of the effort comes through in a very understated, nice way; there is a simplicity to it that appeals to me. There are very few, instrumental breaks, and the arrangements are limited to one or two instruments on most tracks. It has an old-time flavor without being an old-time disc, you might say. No banjo players were harmed in the making of this message. Maybe next time --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
