Filter problems
Hello, I need to do following function: delete from folder (not to Trash) selected message by defined schortcut, but not, if is parked or flagged. I created following filtr: - String : @ - "Actions/Delete the messag"e selected - "Options/Execute action set of this rule" selected - Schotcut - Ctrl+Shift+Alt+O - "Advanced/Message is unparked" selected - "Advanced/Message is not flagged" selected When I apply this filtr by pressing this schortcut on parked message, this message disappears in this folder. When I change folder and select back to previous, message is still there - cosmetic bug. Same problem, when I uncheck options "Message is unparked" and "Message is not flagged" in section "Advanced. When I apply this filtr by pressing this schortcut on flagged message, this message is deleted! - section Advanced was not used, I think. can somebody confirm? -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Using the best The Bat! 1.46 Beta/2 under the worst Windows 95 4.0 Build B Intel Celeron 266 MHz, 32 MB RAM -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
The Bat! - bug report
Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.46 Beta/2 Serial Number 14F4B4B2 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 and would like to report a bug The bug description: When pasting text from something like a Word document where there is no hard paragraph formatting the text ends up in the message as very, *very* long lines. TB should observe the auto-format and auto-wrap settings when pasting. Steps to reproduce the bug: Paste a large paragraph from word. It seems to me that Max suffers from this problem when he writes release notes :-). Regards, Marck D. Pearlstone -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
URLs in square brackets: [www.something.com]
Hello all, Is there any sensible reason why links in square brackets, such as [www.something.com], aren't clickable in TB?! You may type www.something.com as well as (www.something.com), but between [] it doesn't work... Regards, -- Christopher J. Trybowski === -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- uin:4350719 -- http://www.trybik.i.krakow.pl --- pgp-keys: 0xB92EEE69 0x9382700B ===( get-pgp-keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=send_key )=== -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
bad date handling
Has anyone else had problems with the bat handling Date lines wrongly. For instance, the header: Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 12:38:12 BST shows 3:38pm in the list. I know that this may be caused by not fully RFC compliant mailers (this was sent from Hotmail), but if these formats are in common use, then The Bat should attempt to handle them -- David Powell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! - 1.46 Beta/2 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - bug report
Hi Drunin, On 02 August 2000 at 15:59:42 GMT +0400 (which was 12:59 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "The Bat! - bug report": MDP When pasting text from something like a Word document where MDP there is no hard paragraph formatting the text ends up in the MDP message as very, *very* long lines. D I suffered from that bug while pasting text copied from the browser D until I noted that The Bat! wrap these long lines before sending D and typically I can leave it without reformatting. It's not good enough when we are used to the superb WYSIWYG plain text formatting TB gives. We both use justification in our presentation. Why should pasted text not conform to the same presentation standard? IMHO leaving it to send time wrapping is not good enough. Also, I didn't realize TB engaged in send-time wrapping ... in fact, I don't think it should. Some text is *supposed* to be in longer lines than normal. Code samples and log sections are goods examples of where I would suppress line wrap completely to allow the full format of the text to survive transit. Yes, I know that I could simply attach a text file, but that shouldn't be necessary. -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/2 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
S/Mime bug report
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBBETA, While trying to open an encrypted S/Mime message I received this error. In 1.46 beta/1 and 1.46 beta/2 it is not possible to open this message. Also the save dialog does not save the file. Clicking on save is a NOP instruction. For more information see http://www.dainton.org.uk/smime.jpg - -- - From Jamie Dainton [Bat] Wednesday, August 02, 2000 14:34:22 The Bat! 1.46 Beta/2 Windows 98 4.10 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=sendKey -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOYgjrrO9xx6V8gurEQLGLgCeNwFACzCZbgbOzkfp9klWQBNUOksAoOCx Jc4Z2F4yTm3F2Cv4reMULbL/ =wKj2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: S/Mime bug report
Hi Jamie, On 02 August 2000 at 14:35:35 GMT +0100 (which was 14:35 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "S/Mime bug report": JDB While trying to open an encrypted S/Mime message I received JDB this error. In 1.46 beta/1 and 1.46 beta/2 it is not possible to JDB open this message. Also the save dialog does not save the file. JDB Clicking on save is a NOP instruction. JDB For more information see http://www.dainton.org.uk/smime.jpg There was a premature beta/2 release which included this bug. Check on the RIT ftp server to make sure you have the final release of beta/2. -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/2 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Browsing with left and rigt arrows
Hi Darius, Left and right arrows seems don't work as it must. Browsing in tree with arrows differs in Microsoft products and TheBat (folder list, message list). Try to use arrows keys in Explorer folder tree and TheBat folder tree and will see the difference "Must" is a strong word here, and I don't think TB *must* use keyboard the same way as Microsoft. Heck, even M$ doesn't always use keyboard the same way across all their products. Admittedly, everyone has some preoccupation about how keyboard should be defined in TB. The preoccupation is largely related to software one has learned, and differs from one user to another. The best way to solve this is to allow users to re-define keyboard assignments, which is unfortunately not possible at this moment, and is promised for v2. For this specific case, I don't agree with you, either. In Explorer folder tree pane, you need to press Right key once to expand folder one level first, and one more time to go down one level. The first one is equivalent to pressing the Plus key on the Num-keypad (which works the same way in TB). In TB, pressing the Right key would expand the folder tree one level and go down to it, which is more convenient. Same for the Left key. BTW, Left and Right arrow key doesn't seem to work in Explorer's file list pane in Details view, while they work in TB's message list. Since you mentioned message list, are you trying to suggest RIT to disable both keys in message list? -- Best regards, Ming-Li Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/2 under Win2k -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: bad date handling
Hi David, Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 12:38:12 BST This doesn't conform to standard AFAIK, for it put "year" before "time". shows 3:38pm in the list. I know that this may be caused by not fully RFC compliant mailers (this was sent from Hotmail), but if these formats are in common use, then The Bat should attempt to handle them I agree TB should accommodate such non-conforming headers, or allow users to edit it directly in TB (now all you can do is to export it, edit it, and re-import it). Becky does the latter, and I miss the feature very much. That being said, I would also suggest you to send an email to Hotmail and ask them to go by the standard. -- Best regards, Ming-Li Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/2 under Win2k -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: URLs in square brackets: [www.something.com]
Hello Christopher, On Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:08:01 +0200 GMT (02/08/2000, 20:08 +0800 GMT), Christopher J. Trybowski wrote: CJT Is there any sensible reason why links in square brackets, such as CJT [www.something.com], aren't clickable in TB?! Deja-vu, or did you post this question before? Nobody answered, I guess that means there is no sensible reason. I wouldn't know of any. -- Cheers, Thomas.mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.45 S/MIME under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using a Celeron 366 MHz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: URLs in square brackets: [www.something.com]
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 02:08:01PM +0200, Christopher J. Trybowski wrote: You may type www.something.com as well as (www.something.com), but between [] it doesn't work... Generally because the accepted way of doing it doesn't include []'s. In fact, I think only 's is technically correct. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Browsing with left and rigt arrows
Hi Ming-Li, On 02 August 2000 at 07:32:59 GMT -0700 (which was 15:32 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Browsing with left and rigt arrows": Left and right arrows seems don't work as it must. Browsing in tree with arrows differs in Microsoft products and TheBat (folder list, message list). Try to use arrows keys in Explorer folder tree and TheBat folder tree and will see the difference ML "Must" is a strong word here, and I don't think TB *must* use ML keyboard the same way as Microsoft. Heck, even M$ doesn't always ML use keyboard the same way across all their products. Just a note of moderation here: a lot of non-native English speakers on this list (including the RIT programmers on occasion!) use the word "must" where "could", "should" and "aught" are clearly more apt. It is a matter of limited understanding and poor translation rather than the intention to use the imperative. ML For this specific case, I don't agree with you, either. In ML Explorer folder tree pane, you need to press Right key once to ML expand folder one level first, and one more time to go down one ML level. The first one is equivalent to pressing the Plus key on the ML Num-keypad (which works the same way in TB). In TB, pressing the ML Right key would expand the folder tree one level and go down to ML it, which is more convenient. Same for the Left key. FWIW I agree with you. -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/2 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: 1.46 Beta/1 is now available
Hello Syafril Hermansyah, On Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:16:20 +0700 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, August 02, 2000, 12:16:20 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Syafril Hermansyah wrote: Hello Stefan Tanurkov, Responding to your article on Monday, July 31, 2000 at 18:36:44 GMT +0300 (which was 02/08/2000 22:36 GMT +0700 my Local Time) : ST What are other urgent issues please? :-) Would you mind to add "confirmation" when exit from The Bat!, especially if clicking "X" icon on right top windows. Sometimes I click wrong "X" icon windows, I want to close other windows but actually closing The Bat! :-( I wouldnt mind having a proper closing button instead of that right top corner thing. I clicked it as well several times by mistake on a cluttered screen... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.46 Beta/2 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Browsing with left and rigt arrows
Hi Marck, Just a note of moderation here: a lot of non-native English speakers on this list (including the RIT programmers on occasion!) use the word "must" where "could", "should" and "aught" are clearly more apt. It is a matter of limited understanding and poor translation rather than the intention to use the imperative. My apology. As a non-native English speaker myself, I should have known better. Thanks for the reminder. -- Best regards, Ming-Li Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/2 under Win2k -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Browsing with left and rigt arrows
Hi phil, On 02 August 2000 at 08:56:29 GMT -0700 (which was 16:56 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Browsing with left and rigt arrows": p Aye, and here's my opportunity to test out to see if I can post a p message on TBBETA testing 1,2,3 How about it Marck? Am I p getting through to the list again? Hey! Welcome back Phil! Mind you, just because I can see it, doesn't mean you can. Of course you can - you just replied to Ming-Li. -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/2 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filter problems
Hi Marek, I need to do following function: delete from folder (not to Trash) selected message by defined schortcut, but not, if is parked or flagged. I created following filtr: - String : @ - "Actions/Delete the messag"e selected - "Options/Execute action set of this rule" selected - Schotcut - Ctrl+Shift+Alt+O - "Advanced/Message is unparked" selected - "Advanced/Message is not flagged" selected When I apply this filtr by pressing this schortcut on parked message, this message disappears in this folder. When I change folder and select back to previous, message is still there - cosmetic bug. Confirmed. Same problem, when I uncheck options "Message is unparked" and "Message is not flagged" in section "Advanced. When I apply this filtr by pressing this schortcut on flagged message, this message is deleted! - section Advanced was not used, I think. You're right, when applying a filter on selected messages with a hotkey, no filtering conditions (including the search string, and conditions in the advanced pane) would be used, IF the source folder is the same as the destination folder, UNLESS the option "Check the selected messages against this rule" is checked. Confusing? You bet. And this is designed behavior, not a bug. (Speaking with a straight face. :-| ) What happened to parked messages in your case is accidental: parked messages can't be deleted with a filter no matter what (before unparking it first), not because TB abides to the condition you set. A bit of history (from someone with a little more than 2 month's experience): It's long been lamented that TB's filters, with all its prowess, couldn't be used without moving messages to a certain folder. Hence RIT designed sort of a backdoor trick as described above. (Or it's been there all long, I don't know.) So you may set both the source folder and the destination folder to Inbox, and apply the filter to other folders with a hotkey without those messages being moved to Inbox. IOW, pressing the hotkey would simply do the designated "actions" on selected messages, with no regard to any other condition. For your purpose, enable the ""Check the selected messages against this rule" will do. Theoretically, it would make TB move the matched messages to the destination folder (even if it's the same as the source folder), but it won't be a problem here since TB execute the "delete" action first, hence no messages left to move. -- Best regards, Ming-Li Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/2 under Win2k -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Browsing with left and rigt arrows
Aye Marck! On Wednesday, August 02, 2000 at 17:19:26 GMT +0100 (which was 9:19 AM where you think I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: MDP Hi phil, MDP On 02 August 2000 at 08:56:29 GMT -0700 (which was 16:56 where I MDP live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject MDP of "Browsing with left and rigt arrows": p Aye, and here's my opportunity to test out to see if I can post a p message on TBBETA testing 1,2,3 How about it Marck? Am I p getting through to the list again? MDP Hey! Welcome back Phil! Mind you, just because I can see it, doesn't MDP mean you can. Of course you can - you just replied to Ming-Li. Alright! Yeah. ;o) Well since I got back on, and since I have you attention. I ran across something weird. I was talking to someone who was helping me out with a website. his mail program X-mailer showed Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win95; I) I know the CCK part means someone was tweaking on their browser, since, "CCK" means "Netscape Client Customization Kit Version 4.7" The weird thing is that when I tried to reply to him, nothing was quoted at all. I am assuming (maybe wrongly) that he has the "Send messages in HTML" box checked. In order to reply to him I had to resend the message (Forward) to myself and then nitpick the parts I wanted to quote manually actually it was formatted all screwed up and it is by far the worst email I have ever had to reply to in my entire life of email-ing. I told him how to edit his settings and send only Text out to me, but I wonder if the message wasn't a bug, ie. that I couldn't quote it back to him without processing it, and doing a lot of extra work. Normally I'd delete an HTML, but this is from someone who I am interested in what he has to say. And considering that were beta testing, I thought it was important. No joke. No quoting at all whatsoever. Hit reply and nothing at all. Just like I have a new message with everything he said removed. Kinda made me mad at first, because I knew that meant I had to totally re-edit what he sent. Sure... cut n paste was the solution, but should a message be that much trouble--I didn't think so. I can post the message, but it will show up normally after it's forwarded. I only hope the guy takes my suggestions and sends in both HTML and Plain TEXT. Anyway. looks like I've had some bad luck with mail lately ;o) -- ... Foghorn Leghorn: ah say, boy if your not using the bat! , you are about as smart as a bag of ball bearings! --- The Bat! 1.45 Beta/11+98Lite+ROM II+IE4+Beta/+9/+10/+11 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
