Re: suggestion and bug
Hello Damien, On Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:40:04 +0200 GMT (13/10/00, 21:40 +0800 GMT), Damien wrote: D - When you wrap your text (like this one) and use the [ALT]+L when D you have a problem, The bat! didn't see the paragraph structure D (blank line) and your mail become one paragraph with all text in one D line (see the end of this mail). You must select each paragraph and D apply the format (very long). Is there any solution to select all D text ? I always place the cursor somewhere in the paragraph hit two arrow keys and then Alt-L. I don't wait until I have finished sevral paragraphs. D - Is there a possibilities to change the order of folders (and D accounts) in the left tree ? (actually, they appear in the creation D order) Alt-drag them to where you wish (even across accounts). D - When you receive a mail with a lot of "to:" people, it's not so D easy to see the entire list. (you cab display the header of course) Has been annoying me since the beginning. -- Cheers, Thomas.mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Sex is a disrobic experience Message reply created with The Bat! 1.46d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using a Celeron 366 MHz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: suggestion and bug
Hello Damien, Responding to your article on Fri, 13 Oct 2000 at 15:40:04 GMT +0200 (which was 13/10/2000 20:40 GMT +0700 my Local Time) : D - In a reinstallation, when you (re)create your mail account, the D bat! import all settings (mail, login, password) but if your SMTP D require a login/password different from the login/password of POP D account (for a same account), he replace the POP settings D (login/password) by SMTP settings. I am not sure, but it seems happens once here if memory serve. -- Best regards, - Syafril - +--+ Name: Syafril Hermansyah | Company : Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto : [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 URL : www.dutaint.co.id| FAX : (62) (21) 351-9241 +--+ Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/7 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 Created : Friday, October 13, 2000, 21:22:15 GMT +0700 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: suggestion and bug
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Damien, On 13 October 2000 at 15:40:04 GMT +0200 (which was 14:40 where I live) Damien wrote and made these points on the subject of "suggestion and bug": D - With the same PGP configuration, when I select "verify and D decrypt when receive a mail" in the plugins, nothing happens in The D Bat!. I must do all things with [CTRL]+[SHIFT]+D or C... These options are not applicable to the TB plug-in. TB's interface requires manual intervention. D - In a same account, I use multiple folder for changing identities. D When I receive mail in the "inbox" folder, I must move the mail to D the good folder (for changing my identities) before reply. Is there D any solution for selecting an identities (not attached to an D account but a folder) when you wrote a mail ? You can could define a Quick Template which changes the current account and sets the From and Reply-To accordingly using template macros. Just type the QT handle and press Ctrl-Space to switch. D - When you wrap your text (like this one) and use the [ALT]+L when D you have a problem, The bat! didn't see the paragraph structure D (blank line) and your mail become one paragraph with all text in D one line (see the end of this mail). You must select each paragraph D and apply the format (very long). Is there any solution to select D all text ? A paragraph is delimited by *two* blank lines. D - Is there a possibilities to change the order of folders (and D accounts) in the left tree ? (actually, they appear in the creation D order) Use Alt-Drag and drop to move folders. Use Ctrl-Drag to drop a folder /into/ another. D - When you receive a mail with a lot of "to:" people, it's not so D easy to see the entire list. (you cab display the header of course) You can display the header (of course) ;-). - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Headline - Enraged Cow Injures Farmer with Ax TB! v1.47 Beta/7 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOedHYDnkJKuSnc2gEQLogwCeJ+RxWuMEL1yMN1NwDeB3krTG9x4AoJyw DPs0jAuJFruYkzZFRJsgnn2K =8nja -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: unsubscribe
Hello Giamma, On Friday, October 13, 2000 at 13:48:49 GMT +0200 (which was 4:48 AM where I live) witnesses say Giamma typed: how about read what is written at the end of every message? Chances are the person had folder templates defined with %To="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" So if this person clicked the mailto link below, then the list would get a copy too. But speaking of that, perhaps a simple filter could be created to remove messages being sent to both the list and the unsub address? Create a filter with the following: String: Location Presence TB(UDL|BETA)[EMAIL PROTECTED]SenderYes TB(UDL|BETA)@thebat.dutaint.com Recipient Yes unsubs?c?r?i?b?e?Subject Yes Enable Regular Expressions and have it moved to the trash. The '?' characters are there so that typos would be caught. Can anyone think of a better way to catch typos? -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/7 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: suggestion and bug
Hello Marck, On Friday, October 13, 2000 at 18:33:20 GMT +0100 (which was 10:33 AM where I live) witnesses say Marck D. Pearlstone typed: D - Is there a possibilities to change the order of folders (and D accounts) in the left tree ? (actually, they appear in the creation D order) Use Alt-Drag and drop to move folders. Use Ctrl-Drag to drop a folder /into/ another. Um, slight correction, Ctrl-drag does nothing, Ctrl-Alt-drag moves a folder into another folder. D - When you receive a mail with a lot of "to:" people, it's not so D easy to see the entire list. (you cab display the header of course) You can display the header (of course) ;-). Um, Marck, if you display the header using View-Message Header, and your message has lots of recipients, then you don't see all of them. TB's scrolling of this field is also quite odd. This is one aspect that is rather annoying in TB. Personally, only Netscape comes close to dealing with this situation in a good way, but even that leaves something to be desired. In Netscape, a list is displayed in the main message viewer with essentially one address per line. Not all the addresses are shown by default but there is a little arrow that will show the rest. This field is treated like normal text, so highlighting and copying are easy. TB has the Address Auto-view option, but here the drop down list width is much too small to see an overview of everyone who received the message. Also all recipient fields (To, Cc, Bcc) are merged with the sender fields (From:) into one list. (Obviously Bcc is only applicable for messages you've created and sent). I think the best solution would be for the Address Auto-view dialogue to include a tab with a textbox containing the members of the list one per line. Also there should be some way to indicate who in in the sender field, To field and Cc field. Perhaps colours or an icon could do this job. Alternately, the dialogue box could have 4 extra tabs, one for each field. It would also be nice if this system ported to the message editor window as well. In the message editor, Netscape Messenger 4.5 has best system. If you've never seen how Netscape does this part, let me know and I'll produce a screen capture. It is a very nice solution. Don't get me wrong, when choosing addresses from the address book (the little rolodex icon on the address line in the message editor), TB has a very nice interface. What needs to be added is a way to add an address in this dialogue box that does not exist in your address book. Perhaps another possible solution would be to create a temporary address book with the various recipients and senders as entries. I'm not entirely sure how this would work, but it is another solution the developers might consider. However the developers choose to do this, I would really appreciate a better visualization system to see addresses in the messages. TB has excellent tools available, so I'm sure it won't require much extra code to make reading and manipulating mail just a little easier. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/7 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: suggestion and bug
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Januk, On 14 October 2000 at 16:46:42 GMT -0700 (which was 00:46 where I live) Januk Aggarwal wrote and made these points on the subject of "suggestion and bug": Use Alt-Drag and drop to move folders. Use Ctrl-Drag to drop a folder /into/ another. JA Um, slight correction, Ctrl-drag does nothing, Ctrl-Alt-drag moves a JA folder into another folder. Sorry - that's the one. D - When you receive a mail with a lot of "to:" people, it's not so D easy to see the entire list. (you cab display the header of course) You can display the header (of course) ;-). JA Um, Marck, if you display the header using View-Message Header, I (and I think Damien) were both referring to the RFC822 headers - kludges - since the original posting was complaining about the limitations of the normal header view (at least, I think he was - I know I was). By view the kludges you can clearly see all recipients. It's not pretty, but it's there. JA I think the best solution would be for the Address Auto-view JA dialogue to include a tab with a textbox containing the members of JA the list one per line. Also there should be some way to indicate JA who in in the sender field, To field and Cc field. Perhaps JA colours or an icon could do this job. Alternately, the dialogue JA box could have 4 extra tabs, one for each field. Either of these implementations would be good. JA It would also be nice if this system ported to the message editor JA window as well. In the message editor, Netscape Messenger 4.5 has JA best system. If you've never seen how Netscape does this part, JA let me know and I'll produce a screen capture. I haven't. Send it to me off-list. JA It is a very nice solution. Don't get me wrong, when choosing JA addresses from the address book (the little rolodex icon on the JA address line in the message editor), TB has a very nice interface. JA What needs to be added is a way to add an address in this dialogue JA box that does not exist in your address book. I agree. JA Perhaps another possible solution would be to create a temporary JA address book with the various recipients and senders as entries. JA I'm not entirely sure how this would work, but it is another JA solution the developers might consider. Sounds a bit of an overkill to me g. JA However the developers choose to do this, I would really JA appreciate a better visualization system to see addresses in the JA messages. TB has excellent tools available, so I'm sure it won't JA require much extra code to make reading and manipulating mail just JA a little easier. Let's hope that these ideas and thoughts make an impact on the new work being done towards V2. I don't think I'd like to see V2 slowed down to have modified functionality of this magnitude in V1. I know they've been proving some of the new V2 technology in the latest V1 upgrades but it seems to me that these new technologies have all been brand new features rather than enhancement to existing facilities. S/MIME, MAPI, new mail-base structures, etc. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Ground Beef: A Cow With No Legs TB! v1.47 Beta/7 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOeeqvTnkJKuSnc2gEQJkKACeNsAlrseVcu9yh5G52+CONUnoPgsAoMUD ZMMaPCawm+oW2wDTDtjP2B/Z =bpIb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: unsubscribe
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JA unsubs?c?r?i?b?e?Subject Yes
JA Enable Regular Expressions and have it moved to the trash. The '?'
JA characters are there so that typos would be caught. Can anyone think
JA of a better way to catch typos?
unsub([scribe]{0,7})? should do it. This would allow the mixing up of
letters and an occasional extra letter or missing letters. :-)
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Re: suggestion and bug
Hello Marck, On Friday, October 13, 2000 at 01:37:17 GMT +0100 (which was 5:37 PM where I live) witnesses say Marck D. Pearlstone typed: By view the kludges you can clearly see all recipients. It's not pretty, but it's there. I suppose, but there is so much other junk in there. It can be a pain to find the info. JA I think the best solution would be for the Address Auto-view JA dialogue to include a tab with a textbox containing the members of JA the list one per line. Also there should be some way to indicate JA who in in the sender field, To field and Cc field. Perhaps JA colours or an icon could do this job. Alternately, the dialogue JA box could have 4 extra tabs, one for each field. Either of these implementations would be good. The only additional request I'd like to append is to make the dialogue resizeable. There is no way to estimate what will be convenient for even a majority of users. But as long as the dialogue box is of user defined size and has sticky settings, the RIT guys don't have to worry about making that decision. JA It would also be nice if this system ported to the message editor JA window as well. In the message editor, Netscape Messenger 4.5 has JA best system. If you've never seen how Netscape does this part, JA let me know and I'll produce a screen capture. I haven't. Send it to me off-list. I posted it on TBOT in the files section: http://www.egroups.com/files/tbot/Netscape+Messenger+Capture.PNG To be correct, this is for version 4.7. It doesn't matter what the exact version is though, see the picture for key details. JA Perhaps another possible solution would be to create a temporary JA address book with the various recipients and senders as entries. JA I'm not entirely sure how this would work, but it is another JA solution the developers might consider. Sounds a bit of an overkill to me g. Ok, I'll grant you that one. :) I was just offering yet another idea. I really don't know how much code and/or work would be required for each of these ideas. By offering options to the developers, hopefully they can synthesize an even better solution. Case and point: Colour groups. Let's hope that these ideas and thoughts make an impact on the new work being done towards V2. I don't think I'd like to see V2 slowed down to have modified functionality of this magnitude in V1. Sure that's reasonable. V1, V2, it's all the same to me. TB in it's current form is quite different from the TB I registered. A lot has been added, and a lot has been fixed. I'm not going to insinuate that my suggestion has any greater priority than other suggestions. I know they've been proving some of the new V2 technology in the latest V1 upgrades but it seems to me that these new technologies have all been brand new features rather than enhancement to existing facilities. S/MIME, MAPI, new mail-base structures, etc. I agree. I registered with v1.35 or 1.36 (I don't remember). The changes between that version and the current version would be worthy of a V2 status if it were from any other company. Just take a look at the length of the version 1.42 update list and all the features since then. It is incredible. I'm happy that I'm not the one doing the coding. :) -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/7 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
