Re: RTV and sig delimiter
Hello Peter! On Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 10:13:55 PM you wrote: DH Hey, are you imitating my style? Seems I'm to dumb this evening to understand this ... :-/ Easy to explain. As you may have noticed I tend to give short, correct, but hopelessly inadequate answers to obvious questions. (Stupid) Example: May I have your telephone number? - Yes. Another one (even more stupid, equally inadequate as an example and stolen): Oh, Doctor, he looks very ill ... - Yes, we need to bring him to a hospital. - A hospital? What is it? - A big house with doctors and nurses, but that doesn't matter now. Yeah ... just noticed it seems to be 'back in the wild' ... I know for sure it was fixed (maybe accidentally? *G*), but just discovered the old 'please change twice or enter the font size manually to make the settings active' bug is re-introduced again :-((( Thanks, that's what I meant. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/49 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C There *is* love at first sight. -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Why no release.txt??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello David, On Monday, March 18, 2002 at 00:10:13 +, Dave Conroy [DC] wrote concerning 'Why no release.txt??': ... DC But what happens if one has joined mid way through, as I have? You can always ask for a compiled list of changes on this list. There are several users that have compiled one. Take for instance the one from Guenther Eisele (http://www.guenther-eisele.de/bat/index_e.htm). - -- Best regards, David ** 1200 bps used to seem so fast. ** [TB! 1.54 Beta/49] [Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2] [Running on a Celeron 800@1176 256 Mb RAM] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 06 Comment: PGPKeys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_PGP_key iQA/AwUBPJWivFK9yf5+yp9NEQLWggCfQe09olU4UWOfRW9llmrZpXXZ49EAoPUL 1Iu54ZDM+r+ZrOuAMSQySVk5 =tN5j -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: various bugs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 08:59:57 +0100, Peter Palmreuther [PP] wrote these comments: ... JW 4) Undoing selecting by word in a header field is messed up. I.e., PP ACK. Somebody explained this are the Delphi components not PP supporting the 'de-facto standard' for selecting :-/ Unless these PP edit-field components are not replaced I think there will be no PP solutions for this. But replacing them might introduce another few PP bug which would block a hopefully soon coming RC ... :-/ How about this minor annoyance. :-) When pasting text in the header fields for messages, they are pasted in a selected state, so you have to hit an arrow key to deselect the pasted text before you can continue typing. Is there a reason for pasted text in the header fields being in a selected state? - -- Allie C Martin (_ List Moderator and fellow end user __) PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= TB! v1.54 Beta/49 Windows XP 5.1.2600 ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6-2 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyVr/4ACgkQV8nrYCsHF+JgVgCcCCjKLT8a1cXInxNlMlMKlqG9 nt0AoKAXRt9JGVr/S/xXuBTzHTvytBPt =66S0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: 1.54 Beta/49
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In a message dated, Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:04:02 +0100, Dierk Haasis [DH] wrote: ... uhhh.. one of us is a little bit confused here. I've always used ctrl+shift+Del to delete entire threads, not single messages. DH It's not mutually exclusive. One message is also one thread. And why DH should one use two different keystrokes if one suffices. I thought a thread comprised two or more messages? - -- Allie C Martin -- List Moderator PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [MUA: TB! v1.54 Beta/49 (*) OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600] ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6-2 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyVs3AACgkQV8nrYCsHF+LQWQCgxGspK7PHzDWs2FzbgApxVfi7 GIAAnji9957gf+zg/fNa4GvEQIC8cgQn =DAWw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Anyone confirm??
Hello tbbeta In beta 47b and 49, I've had the feeling that some e-mail has been marking itself as unread at random as I swap between folders. The ticker has gone away, I swap folders to an unread (non ticker) message, and then the ticker re-appears. I check the ticker, and discover its a message I've already read from the folder I was last in. Completely random.. am I losing my mind... or is this happening to other too? regards, Graham Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/49 under Windows NT 4.0 (Build 1381, Service Pack 6) -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: 1.54b49 RC for V2?
Hello Guti! On Monday, March 18, 2002 at 5:55:06 AM you wrote: - News reader function I actually hope that one is far down the list. There are very good news readers available (even for free). Who needs another one? - Concept of the GUI absolute flexible (sounded like skins and would also make the discussion whether to have this new look+feel or not obsolete) Definitely no skinning. Flexibility in creating ones own toolbars and menus. Partly already in beta (for keyboard shortcuts). - Linux version (are there ANY news regarding that?) AFAIUI, it won't come in the near future. Is it *necessary*? I mean, people tell me TB! runs alright with WINE. - HTML in sending (not that I need that, but it was promised) And I still hope they forgot about it ... -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/49 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C The First Amendment presupposes that right conclusions are more likely to be gathered out of a multitude of tongues, than through any kind of authoritative selection. (Judge Learned Hand as cited in New York Times v. Sullivan) -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: RTV and sig delimiter
Hello Peter! On Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 10:07:55 PM you wrote: DH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii DH Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit But my settings say yes ... -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/49 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Da, wo der Wille groß ist, können die Schwierigkeiten nicht groß sein. (Niccolo Machiavelli) -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re[2]: HTML viewer - color problem
Hello Martin, 18.03.02, you wrote: MSFONT color=crimson AL W3C also know nothing about _this_ color MS Found a link with color descriptions: MS http://st-ives.net/dlv/html/colorsamples.html Thank. Best regards, Dimanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Release Poll latest news
On Monday, March 18, 2002 Dierk Haasis wrote: *RTV: doesn't show last line with space used | Yes Ohh... yes it scrolls too much. This one is pretty annoying for me. Hope it'll be fixed... in final 1.54 release. regards, -- /\_/\ Raising your voice does not reinforce your argument. (~o o~) )'Y'( __ ( ) / Jacek Wojaczynski The Bat! 1.54 Beta/49 under Windows 95 \ -- Kto na bramce, kto w obronie? Zagraj! http://ruletka.interia.pl/ -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Flags Settings Bug, or ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 11:12:08 +0300 [ Mon, 18 Mar 2002], Oleg Polishchuk [OP] thoughtfully wrote the following: ... OP Select any message, then go to: OP Message - Flags - Replied (Forwarded/Redirected) OP You can select them, but you can't UN_select them... OP From Select Message, Right click - Flags - all OK !!! OP Can anyone confirm this behavior ? Yes. But it only happens with the main windows 'Message' menu. It works fine with the Folder View Windows' 'Message' menu. - -- Allie C Martin (_ List Moderator and fellow end user __) PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= TB! v1.54 Beta/49 Windows XP 5.1.2600 ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6-2 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyVsSoACgkQV8nrYCsHF+JWJQCg2Wl7LkWNj+6kwROLXZC1kNVf Pz8Ani9i9ayD7ueGI7JqdTlDIXlGzUBt =yXVw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: 1.54 Beta/49
Hello Alexander, On Saturday, March 16, 2002 at 11:16:37 PM you wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): AL Well, please _all_ who can - check Outlook (big brother) import too... I've done so ... or better: I've tried ... - Using Outlook 2000 (9.0.0.2814) - Having PGP 7.0.3 installed, PGP-Plugin for Outlook too I've _deselected_ the 'Public Folders' for importing, nevertheless they were tried to import. For not yet known reasons I got from about 50% up an error popup with title 'Microsoft Outlook' stating it was unable to load 'PGPexch.dll' for _every single message_ (at least it seems to pop up for every message, confirming it several hundred of times the process bar went on bit by bit every time). The DLL is located in System32-directory, Outlook never complains about not being able to load this DLL, PGP is working correctly within Outlook. Additionally this import is not able to be canceled as the 'Cancel' buttons is disabled, using the 'Closing-X' of dialog form seems to have canceled at least. (Of course only after I've 'OK'-ed the error several hundred of times :-/ ). Plus: this import takes up 100% of system resources. This is quite a lot on an Athlon 900 :-) I know this does not _really_ help, but maybe it gives a rough overview about were to look ... Of course you don't have to hesitate to re-request further information :-) Ciao Pit -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/49 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it. -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: 1.54b49 RC for V2?
Hello Nick! On Monday, March 18, 2002 at 4:22:16 PM you wrote: It's not so much a question of needing 'another one'. Rather, it's about having your News and Mail combined in one Application and the ability to use the same Editor for both. You know, one thing that drove me from StarOffice was this ... idea of them to give you one big app for everything. I'm glad that MS never did that - you *can* install everything (even with a kind of unified UI), but you don't have to. For a long time now I see people asking to have it all under one structure (not just in computing). I am deeply convinced that it is better to have specialised products. Why should RITLabs cater two different UIs - and that's what it will come down to eventually. We had this about a year ago, e-mail and news are quite different. Yes, every newsreader can be used as an e-mail client since it essentially a sub-routine of news reading. But *not the other way round*. The motorcycle market is not that diversified because marketing wants it but because it is not possible to build a cruiser with racing capabilities. You can't have your cake and eat it - unless you use a computer. But that is not necessarily right. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/49 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Never laugh at anyone's dreams. People who don't have dreams, don't have much. -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: 1.54b49 RC for V2?
Hello George, 18. marec 2002, 18:10:40, you wrote: GMM But, that's the point of what I wrote erlier. Downloading messages from GMM news is way different than downloading from pop or imap. Threading is GMM somewhat different. Composing is the same but posting, well, it is way GMM different. Not to mention thing like canceling, getting newsgroups GMM lists, syncronize them et cetera et cetera... The differences aren't so big: - threading is done by references, with (optional) breaking on subject change (this would be nice, if it were implemented in The Bat, too) - downloading messages: OK, this is different, as the protocol differs - posting: instead of sending to user@server you post to newsgroup (again, with different protocol) - canceling, newsgroup lists: well, that's part of the protocol... -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54 Beta/49 on Windows 98 4.10.. A ] Don't ask the barber whether you need a haircut. -- First Law of Expert Advice -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Poll: Bug collection
Hei, Alexander Leschinsky wrote: GE EUR char is not displayed correctly in header pane/ | Yes GE message list (#536) | Can't confirm bug for _Euro-enabled_ (sic!!!) font So I think that you think that I have a font which is not EUR enabled, which is of course not true. But you can send me a font which works for you, I'll install it and try it. -- Regards, Günther ¤I$¤£¤ Automatic virus scanning with F-PROT, ROT13 and a list of changes in 1.54: http://www.guenther-eisele.de/bat/index_e.htm TheBat! 1.54 Beta/49, Windows 2000 5.0 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: 1.54b49 RC for V2?
Hei, Guti wrote: - Completely new way to handle PGP (encrypting attachments, crypting and signing all automatically) This is actually the one which I'd like too see most. The fact that Ritlabs refuses to fix bugs in the current pgp dll maybe a pointer to either that they're developing something completely new or that they don't see a future in pgp. -- Regards, Günther ¤I$¤£¤ Automatic virus scanning with F-PROT, ROT13 and a list of changes in 1.54: http://www.guenther-eisele.de/bat/index_e.htm TheBat! 1.54 Beta/49, Windows 2000 5.0 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: 1.54 Beta/50
Monday, March 18, 2002, 9:12:59 PM, George M. Menegakis wrote: As I said I have seen that bug in an erlier version. But then, after I choose a viewer with keyboard, never occured this AV again. With beta50 it happens every time After searching the archives I found that this bug was introduced in version beta39. -- George M. Menegakis, System Network Administration Using The BAT! v1.54 Beta/50 on Microsoft Windows 2000Service Pack 2 v5.0 Build(2195) -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: 1.54 Beta/50
This message: 18/03/2002 19:19 GMT. Hello George, A reminder of what George ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed on: 18 March 2002 at 21:12:59 GMT +0200 GMM When I try to select viewer from View/Preferences/Viewer using mouse GMM it causes access violation. No problem here, changing view type with the mouse works fine. -- Best regards,Tony. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/50 S/N A27A5E65 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 P4 1.7Ghz -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re[2]: 1.54 Beta/50
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 Monday, March 18, 2002 2:36:30 PM RE: 1.54 Beta/50 Greetings George, On Monday, March 18, 2002, 2:12:59 PM, you wrote: George Monday, March 18, 2002, 8:23:49 PM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: [*] Loading is speeded up in RTV [*] RTV tries to show the last line when scrolling a page down George Ok, there is a strange reintroduced in beta50 (it has happened to me George with and older version, don't remember what was. When I try to select George viewer from View/Preferences/Viewer using mouse it causes access George violation. But If I cling on the viewer choose list and choose my viewer George with keyboard it works as expected. George As I said I have seen that bug in an erlier version. But then, after I George choose a viewer with keyboard, never occured this AV again. With beta50 George it happens every time Not here. Win2k Sp2 all applicable hotfixes. - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. Windows is NOT a virus. Viruses DO something. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6 iQEVAwUAPJZB8WaEPHoZkrdjAQEqqwf6AkNqNMqPlaaWq46p/VGwPX9PDkcPLUxv uIgWhO0smqXi7NBSMsExF8iwTd0XD/AB2OYlF/ZkQzKRqtuHq35Xj51mQZWR1TGs /psYTO+ii/xYw4LogRceMXXLs2eneYpBDOG3+KGI1QmRljTGU5Y+dH4eT+rYte8U zfbiPqGiRkSDb/7GK6HxSxFp02xT+JUMhDad4GxKwXcZ8JGR/XnMc9s4AtvqraiB 5ztAyHaaGe/u2BsQ6MXhPu09Ob67DT5JZjSfX+t8N9kacIZgyBQA9YuaTvIuScB+ iJU9XD33BLBGu/Ww8qCKhr1Kc7Of8zbRBhh2Xz1d9uvwkWTroS8vwg== =tpqq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: 1.54 Beta/50
Hello Stefan, Monday, March 18, 2002, 8:23:49 PM, you wrote: ST [*] RTV tries to show the last line when scrolling a page down And seems to do it succesfully! The missing empty space at the bottom of a message makes the scrolling still a bit awkward but it's a lot better now. -- Best regards, Pete -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
