Re: The Bat! v2.03 Beta/50 is now available

[Zygmunt Wereszczynski]

On Friday, January 30, 2004, at 22:39:06 [UTC+0200] (Friday, January 30,
2004 21:39 my local time) Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

> It's actually a pre-release candidate version, we are going to fix
> some more problems during next few days, so please point us to
> issues you think should be solved before the release. Sure enough, we
> check the Bugtraq often, but it would be better to read what you
> think...

For me, there are several very annoying bugs which exist since a long time:

1. Nonability to execute any action "when event finishes" in Scheduler (see
   bug http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002411).

2. Bug in HTML anchors handling (code like  is not anchored
   to #1 in The Bat! preview pane). It is described in
   http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002240

3. Difference in encoding of new message parts in HTML editor. The default
   charset declared in account properties is not used in HTML part (this is
   probably specific to CE versions of MS Windows, where Windows 1250 is the
   system encoding and ISO-8859-2 is a kind of Internet standard and should be
   used in both parts). This bug is described in
   http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002155

4. Please restore ability to use CHM help file in The Bat!

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Re: The Bat! v2.03 Beta/50 is now available

[Markus Wilhelm]

Hi Stefan Tanurkov,

it was Friday,  January 30th 2004 at about 21:39 you wrote
-at least in parts- :

> The Bat! v2.03 Beta/The Bat! v2.03 Beta/50 is now available...

May I remind you that the user-unfriendly behavior I described in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> still is not changed, despite
you wrote in reply to it:

> Thank you, noted :-)

And the backup module still is better than nothing, but far away from
being a convenient and reliable tool to save the dictionary, folders,
settings and so on... The complete Bat should be saved with it.

Will it be available in the upcoming release?



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Re: The Bat! v2.03 Beta/50 is now available

[dAniel hAhler]

Hello bats,

on Fri, 30. Jan 2004 at 22:48:20 +0100 Martin Schoch wrote:

MS> 1. Question: Will the (international) language file be updated?

I was suprised yesterday that it has been recently updated.

MS> 2. Bug with jumping text in header lines of the editor window still
MS> not fixed.

confirmed.


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View modes

[dAniel hAhler]

Hello bats,

It's the first time I actually played a bit with view modes: I created
a new mode for using with mailinglists and edited the standard one.
After doing so, the name of the standard one ("") was blank.
I have renamed it to "default" now and it seems to stick with this,
but it's confusing..


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Re: test cutmark, ignore

[Mike Pesce]

On Friday, January 30, 2004, 11:20:25 AM, Marcus Ohlström wrote:

>> If  you  go  to  http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/mymacros/  and install
>> MyMacros you'll find one called %CUTHERE.

MO> True, but this is of such importance that it should be included by
MO> default.

That was my point.  I personally haven't had any problems with
the  cut mark.  But, since so many users *do* seem to have problems, I
just thought it would be a nice convenience.

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Re: SMTP-S issue

[Oliver Wolfram]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [Freitag, 30. Januar 2004, 18:24:10]:

>> I should add that I found out that said error doesn't occur with
>> "very short" messages, i.e. when I just put a few words into Subject
>> and Body.
> Do you notice any special characters in the emails, like a . appearing
> on it's own line?

No, regular text. You're thinking of the email providing an EOF or
something like that?

> Do you know if it happens past a certain number of
> lines?

It does happen after about 1024 bytes, 1019 bytes pass, anything above
that fails. The number of lines do not seem to be an issue.

> Have you tried testing from another client to see if the same
> behaviour is exhibited?

I have tested it with OE. Worked perfectly.

I also have tried stunnel now. When I do a telnet through stunnel I
can send messages of any size without problems. When I use TheBat
through stunnel, 1024 is the limit again.

To put it in a nutshell, anything from TheBat to port 465 over SSL
must not be larger than about 1024 bytes to be transmitted.

I also tried to simulate what was happening through the Bat. I thought
that maybe TheBat just failed to transmit the EOF (.), so I logged on
to the server waiting for a timeout, which didn't occur (at least not
as fast as it does when using TB). I then simply closed the connection
hoping that the server would still transmit the message (assuming the
Bat would simply cut the connection). But the message didn't get sent.
So where we get stuck here is past the EOF and for some reason TB
assumes the message couldn't be sent while it did get transmitted.
Anybody know what TB needs to assume a message has been transmitted
successfully?

One can also look at this from a different point of view, but I have
avoided this as I don't know enough about it. ;)

I had exactly the same problem a while ago with regular SMTP while
being connected to the net through a software router (Winroute).
Setting the MTU to 1300 fixed the problem, somebody just recommended
this to me and I never pondered why the MTU wasn't supposed to be
larger.

But this is happening on a direct connection now. Nothing in between.
Still, it might point to the underlying reason for the problem.
However, that's yet out of my league. As I have come to understand it,
some routers will simply drop packets that are above a certain limit.
Now if I lower the MTU, the packets do not exceed the allowed size and
do pass. But packets are packets, whether they are encrypted or not,
idependent of the port they're transmitted over. So I really don't see
how the MTU problem and the SMTPS issue could be other than that they
bring up the exact same error message.

I'm somewhat confused.

Thanks for following my train of thought. ;)

Cheers,
Oliver

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Re: The Bat! v2.03 Beta/50 is now available

[Martin Schoch]

 Hi Stefan

 On Friday, January 30, 2004 9:39:06 PM you wrote:

 
> It's actually a pre-release candidate version, we are going to fix
> some more problems during next few days, so please point us to
> issues you think should be solved before the release. Sure enough, we
> check the Bugtraq often, but it would be better to read what you
> think...

Thanks a lot.

1. Question: Will the (international) language file be updated?

2. Bug with jumping text in header lines of the editor window still
not fixed.

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Re: The Bat! v2.03 Beta/50 is now available

[Ian A. White]

Stefan,

On Saturday, January 31, 2004, 7:39:06 AM, you (Stefan Tanurkov) wrote:

ST> Hello All,

ST> The Bat! v2.03 Beta/The Bat! v2.03 Beta/50 is now available from
ST> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

ST> It's actually a pre-release candidate version, we are going to fix
ST> some more problems during next few days, so please point us to
ST> issues you think should be solved before the release. Sure enough, we
ST> check the Bugtraq often, but it would be better to read what you
ST> think...

ST> The idea of this 2.03 release is to replace the CE version with more
ST> stable/less buggy version as soon as possible...

One thing about this. Will the help system be updated? There are a
number of dialogs where pressing the help button sees an alert saying
no topic found (or similar) and the help system shuts down. Is this
only because this is a beta?

It might be better to have the help system remain at the index rather
than shut down.

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Re: Will we ever get ...

[Peter Fjelsten]

shemming,

On 30-01-2004 15:02, you [sec] wrote in
:
sec> ... an option to allow ctrl+] to skip across accounts?

sec> This one bugs be a thousand times a day.

Strangely enough, nobody supported my request when I made it in May 2002
!

Fortunately, somebody made it a bug and now it appears some attention
has been put to this (sorry, but I cannot find it in the BT - could
somebody post a link)?

(I don't like the virtual folder ticker)

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Re: The Bat! v2.03 Beta/50 is now available

[dAniel hAhler]

Hello bats,

on Fri, 30. Jan 2004 at 22:39:06 +0200 Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

ST> [+] New "Preview Pane on the left" Split Mode for comfortable mail
ST> reading on wide-screen displays

sweet.

Is there any chance to let the folder list window use two (or more)
columns, instead of a one-column list (with 3 name/unread/total
columns), so that the space of this window is used better?
(with "Full-height account tree" the folder list can be hold smaller)

Though this would be very cool, I don't think this would be possible,
would it?

ST> The idea of this 2.03 release is to replace the CE version with more
ST> stable/less buggy version as soon as possible...

Good idea!
Is there currently work in progress on the new filtering system and
the help file(s)?


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Re: The Bat! v2.03 Beta/50 is now available

[Ethan J. Mings]

Crafted from The Desk on location in the Quality Lab.
Hello Stefan,

Friday, January 30, 2004, 3:39:06 PM, you wrote:

> The idea of this 2.03 release is to replace the CE version with more
> stable/less buggy version as soon as possible...

This is a good idea.

Thanks!

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Re: The Bat! v2.03 Beta/50 is now available

[Gary]

Hi there Stefan,

Friday, January 30, 2004, 2:39:06 PM, you wrote:

S> Here goes a short list of changes:

S> [-] (#0001818) Messages could not be copied between different IMAP
S> accounts

Nice job with the APPEND function of IMAP... this very important feature
works very well now..   thanks!!!

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The Bat! v2.03 Beta/50 is now available

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello All,

The Bat! v2.03 Beta/The Bat! v2.03 Beta/50 is now available from
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

Here goes a short list of changes:

[+] New "Preview Pane on the left" Split Mode for comfortable mail
reading on wide-screen displays
[-] (#0001818) Messages could not be copied between different IMAP
accounts
[-] (#0001016) Address Groups templates were not used if a group name
was entered manually or from the Favourites menu

It's actually a pre-release candidate version, we are going to fix
some more problems during next few days, so please point us to
issues you think should be solved before the release. Sure enough, we
check the Bugtraq often, but it would be better to read what you
think...

The idea of this 2.03 release is to replace the CE version with more
stable/less buggy version as soon as possible...


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Re: Will we ever get ...

[dAniel hAhler]

Hello bats,

on Fri, 30. Jan 2004 at 12:46:51 -0600 Jonathan Angliss wrote:

>> ... an option to allow ctrl+] to skip across accounts?
>> This one bugs be a thousand times a day.
JA> If you're using the virtual ticker folder, that command just goes
JA> through all the unread messages, across accounts.

What's the virtual ticker folder?


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Re: test cutmark, ignore

[Greg Strong]

Hello John,

Friday, January 30, 2004, 2:19:37 PM, John Seymour wrote:

JS> How come it changed without my tinkering with the template.

Got me!

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Re: test cutmark, ignore

[John Seymour]

Hello Greg,

Friday, January 30, 2004, 12:18:32 PM, you wrote:
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

GS> You have to look at the source message which you are replying to see if
GS> the  exist. Do you have a text editor where you can
GS> SEE the spaces and carriage returns?

Just checked and you are right.
How come it changed without my tinkering with the template.

I have been posting for about two years, never saw that it didn't work
before.

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Re: Code review (was: Z0mbies macros)

[Alexey N. Vinogradov]

Hello, Carsten.

You wrote 31.01.2004 @ 0:06 

CT> Please reply to tbdev if possible ...

Z0mbie, since you are a new member, tbdev is also the list - for plugin's
developers ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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