Log viewer bug
Sometimes, when my SMTP server does not respond (or probably does respond, but not as supposed), I see something like the below in my account.log file: ,- | 2004-10-25, 14:40:40: SEND - sending mail messages - 1 messages in queue | !2004-10-25, 14:40:53: SEND - Server reports it is not ready, reply: ð È¿àÖHN´HN´ ° È¿S/ · F ¾Bà È¿rÔAN´È ¬ È¿ ýã¦ÈAÈ ¬0 È¿ ¬¦ÈAF Û¦BHN´ | 2004-10-25, 14:40:53: SEND - connection finished - 0 messages sent | 2004-10-25, 14:40:53: SEND - Some messages were not sent - check the log for details `- A few minutes later, the server is up and running again and I can send my messages. All fine so far. The problem is TB!'s account log viewer cannot view my log file when it's mangled up like above. I can see all entries before 2004-10-25 14:40:53, but not what has happened afterwards. TB! keeps logging, the status bar gets updated and the account.log file too, it's just that I cannot view the entire log within TB!. If I try to, the last line I see is: ,- | !2004-10-25, 14:40:53: SEND - Server reports it is not ready, reply: ð È¿àÖHN´HN´ `- Now, if I report this to the BT, I suppose I cannot use Notepad to extract the faulty lines. Any suggestions of what to use to preserve all characters correctly. UltraEdit? Or can I use Notepad to delete the entries above and below and trust it not to modify the relevant parts? (I do - by integrity reasons - not want to post my hole log to the BT) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Confirmed.
JT At this point, for me, TB! tries to connect to Yahoo servers on port JT 445 and 139. Can anyone confirm? Port 445. TB freezes until I give any answer to firewall/ Firewall - Norton Internet security 2003 v 6.0.4.35 OEM (came with Giabyte mobo) -- Best regards, Sergey Uvarov OS: Windows XP Service Pack 1 TheBat!: 3.0.1.33 CPU :x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9 Memory : 512 MyMacros 1.07attachment: Clipboard02.jpg Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: HTML Renderer Trying to Access Internet
On Tuesday, October 26, 2004, at 06:53:55 [UTC+0200] (Tuesday, October 26, 2004 06:53 my local time) Martin Schoch wrote: At this point, for me, TB! tries to connect to Yahoo servers on port 445 and 139. Can anyone confirm? Yes - confirmed - my firewall says that it is a ping request. Did you click on any active link in this message? There are some in it. -- Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski (Using The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Windows 95 4.0 Build b) Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Sorry - wrong picture.
Right picture here Comments - on slow connection after I clicked on a 00..1.msg TB opens a new window freezes for a while (5-10 sec) firewall ask we what to do TB does nit respond for 5 sec TB opens a message -- Best regards, Sergey Uvarov OS: Windows XP Service Pack 1 TheBat!: 3.0.1.33 CPU :x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9 Memory : 512 MyMacros 1.07attachment: Clipboard02.gif Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: HTML Renderer Trying to Access Internet
Hello John,
A reminder of what John Thomas typed on:
26 October 2004 at 18:51:30 GMT -0700
At this point, for me, TB! tries to connect to Yahoo servers on port
445 and 139. Can anyone confirm?
I can confirm it, thought TB wasn't supposed to do that?
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Re: HTML Renderer Trying to Access Internet
On 26/10/2004, Martin Schoch wrote: Yes - confirmed - my firewall says that it is a ping request. pings dont go to ports 139 and 445 - these are netbios ports. There are some ping requests just before the other ports are connected to. There is definitely something wierd here. I've just run ethereal (a network sniffer) on the network activity the bat generates on this message and what something like firefox generates on the same html. Its quite different. In fact I'd hazard a guess that the network trace the bat generates looks horribly like the one Internet explorer generates when it views the message. I didnt think the bat used the MS html component? I'm going to dig around a bit more Marcus -- Marcus Williams -- http://www.quintic.co.uk Quintic Ltd, 39 Newnham Road, Cambridge, UK This message is private [ ] public [*] Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: HTML Renderer Trying to Access Internet
Hello Martin,
A reminder of what Martin Schoch typed on:
26 October 2004 at 06:53:55 GMT +0200
AND: When I don't allow the connection TheBat! gets confused - an
empty Connection window is opened and I have to kill TheBat! with
the Task Manager.
Nothing crashed or froze here, TB just paused while Kerio waited form me to
allow/deny the outgoing connections... I denied all requests and TB opened
the mail without a single whinge.
The above sequence of events are perfectly normal, I was however under the
impression The Bat wasn't supposed to get as far as even attempting an
outgoing connection unless specifically requested to by the user, clicking
a URL for example.
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Re: HTML Renderer Trying to Access Internet
On 26/10/2004, I wrote: In fact I'd hazard a guess that the network trace the bat generates looks horribly like the one Internet explorer generates when it views the message. I didnt think the bat used the MS html component? Whilst it does look like this, its not because it uses the html component (thank god). If you look at the html closely theres an image in there that looks like: img width=1 height=1 src=//us.csc.adserver.yahoo.com/l?/SIG=11aa7evr7/D=alertrem/S=37992800:LREC/EXP=1098786821/A=-1/F=x/B=5/R=1098700421119114_9dacab9a I suspect this is what is causing the problem - its a UNC path which would cause the netbios lookups that are occuring. The bat really should not do this - This is a bug as it is trying to get something from the internet. I think that yahoo have missed off the http: because I cant believe they'd be serving up content this way. Marcus -- Marcus Williams -- http://www.quintic.co.uk Quintic Ltd, 39 Newnham Road, Cambridge, UK This message is private [ ] public [*] Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: most used PGP
Hello Chris, On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:37:19 -0400GMT (26-10-2004, 0:37 +0100, where I live), you wrote: C Is the most used pgp program for the bat the free version located at C http://www.pgp.com/downloads/freeware/index.html or is there something C else better? I am new to PGP and have only been using the bat for C about a month. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Next to PGP, which I use for keysigning, I also use Gnupg http://www.gnupg.org/ for signing my messages. -- cheers, Henk. __ The Bat! Natural Email System v3.0.1nl Professional on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey request: see headers or send email with subj.: send HenksKeyID Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://gswot.webhop.info/ pgpsYQ6ufGSzR.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Open with option not working
Hello tbbeta I have an attachment, its a text file but the supplied extension is .PRO When I try to open the attachment, I was expecting a dialogue to ask me which application to use. This doesn't appear.. in fact nothing happens at all (other than the usual warning do you wish to save this file ) I'm sure this used to work.. anyone confirm? -- regards, Graham Using The Bat! 3.0.2.1 assisted by [Bayes Filter Plugin v1.5.6] under Windows XP 5.1 (Build 2600, Service Pack 1) -- Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains information of Merck Co., Inc. (One Merck Drive, Whitehouse Station, New Jersey, USA 08889), and/or its affiliates (which may be known outside the United States as Merck Frosst, Merck Sharp Dohme or MSD and in Japan, as Banyu) that may be confidential, proprietary copyrighted and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named on this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete it from your system. -- Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Log viewer bug
Hallo Marcus, On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:47:07 +0200GMT (26-10-2004, 9:47 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MO The problem is TB!'s account log viewer cannot view my log file when MO it's mangled up like above. I can see all entries before 2004-10-25 On the TB-forum somebody has the same issue http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forum/read.php?FID=4TID=373MID=1374#message1374read.php?FID=4TID=373MID=1374#message1374 -- Groetjes, Roelof and that is how we know the Earth is banana-shaped. The Bat! 3.0.2.1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpQxWV7HRPVM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: HTML Renderer Trying to Access Internet
Hello Marcus The bat really should not do this - This is a bug as it is trying to get something from the internet. Clicking on the original message of this thread caused my TB! instance to lockup completely.. I'd appreciate it if TB! didn't do this either. Easy Denial Of Service attack on TB! then :-) -- regards, Graham Using The Bat! 3.0.2.1 assisted by under Windows XP 5.1 (Build 2600, Service Pack 1) -- Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains information of Merck Co., Inc. (One Merck Drive, Whitehouse Station, New Jersey, USA 08889), and/or its affiliates (which may be known outside the United States as Merck Frosst, Merck Sharp Dohme or MSD and in Japan, as Banyu) that may be confidential, proprietary copyrighted and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named on this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete it from your system. -- Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Log viewer bug
On Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 12:28, Roelof Otten wrote: MO The problem is TB!'s account log viewer cannot view my log file MO when it's mangled up like above. I can see all entries before MO 2004-10-25 On the TB-forum somebody has the same issue http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forum/read.php?FID=4TID=373MID=1374#message1374read.php?FID=4TID=373MID=1374#message1374 Not quite the same, but thanks anyway. I see those mangled characters when I open account.log in a text editor as well, besides, the problem goes away if I delete account.log or when enough new information has been added to the log to make the faulty line disappear. Chris problem seems to be the log viewer not being able to display anything correctly, mine is the log viewer stops displaying lines below the mangled ones. I've seen this for a long time, it's not a 3.0 problem, if that's of any help. I'll report into the BT later, haven't got the time now. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Log viewer bug
Hello, Marcus. You wrote 26.10.2004 @ 16:47 in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] using mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional MO status bar gets updated and the account.log file too, it's just that I MO cannot view the entire log within TB!. If I try to, the last line I see MO is: MO ,- MO | !2004-10-25, 14:40:53: SEND - Server reports it is not ready, reply: ð È¿àÖHN´HN´ MO `- Unfortunately can't confirm. I just copied your lines into the log and The Bat! shows them as far as the next records without a problem. May be this text was changed because of different encoding? I suggest that the server answered on some unicode (which looks like UTF8, but it is also looks like nonsense if you decode it). May be some trash symbol caused The Bat! thinks that it is the very end of the log - and skip the rest. -- Sincerely, Alexey. Using TB 3.0.1.33 on WinXP Pro SP2 (2600), spelling by ORFO2002 (CSAPI) ..with Kaspersky Antivirus Plugin (ver 3.5 Gold) antispam filter BayesIt! 0.7.5 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: HTML Renderer Trying to Access Internet
Hello Marcus, Whilst it does look like this, its not because it uses the html component (thank god). If you look at the html closely theres an image in there that looks like: img width=1 height=1 src=//us.csc.adserver.yahoo.com/l?/SIG=11aa7evr7/D=alertrem/S=37992800:LREC/EXP=1098786821/A=-1/F=x/B=5/R=1098700421119114_9dacab9a I suspect this is what is causing the problem - its a UNC path which would cause the netbios lookups that are occuring. The bat really should not do this - This is a bug as it is trying to get something from the internet. I agree with you. An probably TB misses it because it is not HTML code but done with a js document.write. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Moving, Deleting Printing a thread...
Maybe i´m too stupid or this feature is actually missing: I have kept around 50 E-Mails in one folder and want to print them all out. Of course there is more than one thread in this folder. If i mark all threads and then say print - TB! only prints the first (actually marked message)! I have to collapse all threads and then mark all messages to actually print them all. Same is also when i move / delete threads. Now i find this pretty dumb and nerving, i my case having to collapse around 20 different threads sometimes up to 10 levels deep. So my request - Please change this so that a complete thread can be handled in one go! -- Christian Grams ## Harlekin's-EDV Christian Grams E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## E-Mail Disclaimer: http://www.harlekin-edv.de/email/email.html PGP-Key: http://pgp.upb.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindexsearch=0xD775BF12 benutze/using: TheBat! 3.0.2.1 Windows XP Build: 2600 with Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: HTML Renderer Trying to Access Internet
Hello MAU,
A reminder of what MAU typed on:
26 October 2004 at 13:01:48 GMT +0200
I agree with you. An probably TB misses it because it is not HTML code
but done with a js document.write.
Would it not be just a matter of finding out the extension and adding it to
these reg entries? Notice that .JS is already included!
ProtectDisableOpen=*.EXE,*.COM,*.BAT,*.CMD,*.VBS,*.PL,*.BAS,*.JS,*.JAVA,*.REG,*.SHS,*.PIF,*.SCR,*.DLL,*.SSH,*.CHM,*.HLP,*.LNK,*.{*},*.CPL
ProtectAllowOpen=*.JPG,*.JPEG,*.PNG,*.GIF,*.BMP,*.ICO,*.WMF,*.EMF,*.VCF,*.EML,*.MSG,*.ARJ,*.ZIP,*.RAR,*.TIF,*.ACE,*.LZH,*.WAV
Saying that though, shouldn't this reg entry have trapped it anyway?
ProtectWarnOpen=*.*
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Re: Moving, Deleting Printing a thread...
Hello Christian, Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 1:03:32 PM, you wrote: I have kept around 50 E-Mails in one folder and want to print them all out. Of course there is more than one thread in this folder. If i mark all threads and then say print - TB! only prints the first (actually marked message)! I have to collapse all threads and then mark all messages to actually print them all. Same is also when i move / delete threads. You can use CTRL-* (numpad) to expand all threads in the current folder at once - after that, press CTRL-A to mark all, then print/move/copy... whatever. (AFAIK there is no keyboard shortcut to collapse them all again, but if you change folders the threads will be closed anyway). (http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut.eng.txt) So my request - Please change this so that a complete thread can be handled in one go! I'd say the above keyboard shortcut should be added as Expand all together with a new Collapse all entry to the messagelist context menu's subentry Threads -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: HTML Renderer Trying to Access Internet
On Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 13:08, Tony Boom wrote:
Would it not be just a matter of finding out the extension and adding
it to these reg entries? Notice that .JS is already included!
ProtectDisableOpen=*.EXE,*.COM,*.BAT,*.CMD,*.VBS,*.PL,*.BAS,*.JS,*.JAVA,*.REG,*.SHS,*.PIF,*.SCR,*.DLL,*.SSH,*.CHM,*.HLP,*.LNK,*.{*},*.CPL
ProtectAllowOpen=*.JPG,*.JPEG,*.PNG,*.GIF,*.BMP,*.ICO,*.WMF,*.EMF,*.VCF,*.EML,*.MSG,*.ARJ,*.ZIP,*.RAR,*.TIF,*.ACE,*.LZH,*.WAV
Saying that though, shouldn't this reg entry have trapped it anyway?
ProtectWarnOpen=*.*
No, these categories only applies when you open a document with an
external tool. Here, you don't, you view the html within TB! and then
the lists above is not considered. It's definitely a bug, but it's not
related to the lists you mention.
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Re: Log viewer bug
On Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 12:10, Alexey N. Vinogradov wrote: MO status bar gets updated and the account.log file too, it's just MO that I cannot view the entire log within TB!. If I try to, the last MO line I see is: MO ,- MO | !2004-10-25, 14:40:53: SEND - Server reports it is not MO ready, reply: ð È¿àÖHN´HN´ MO `- Unfortunately can't confirm. I just copied your lines into the log and The Bat! shows them as far as the next records without a problem. May be this text was changed because of different encoding? Probably. I will extract the relevant lines and publish them in a .rar file on my site later for anyone to test. The keyword is 'later', still don't have time to do it, sorry about that. May be some trash symbol caused The Bat! thinks that it is the very end of the log - and skip the rest. That's my guess as well. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Moving, Deleting Printing a thread...
On Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 13:32, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: You can use CTRL-* (numpad) to expand all threads in the current folder at once - after that, press CTRL-A to mark all, then print/move/copy... whatever. (AFAIK there is no keyboard shortcut to collapse them all again, but if you change folders the threads will be closed anyway). Try ctrl-shift-* (again, numpad). -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: HTML Renderer Trying to Access Internet
Hello! No. I have the preview window on - as soon as I click on the message 001.msg the request is sent. The same ( Klimov Vova [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.starsoft.org Sisoftware Russian localisation team Ritlabs Russian localisation team Using The Bat! 3.0.2.1 Professional on Windows XP (5. 1) Build 2600 Service Pack 2 pgph2WWkjFC38.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: HTML Renderer Trying to Access Internet
Hello Marcus,
A reminder of what Marcus Ohlström typed on:
26 October 2004 at 13:48:03 GMT +0200
It's definitely a bug, but it's not related to the lists you mention.
It was just a thought. if it was then ProtectWarnOpen=*.* would have
trapped it.
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Re: most used PGP
On Monday, October 25, 2004 at 5:37:19 PM [GMT -0500], Chris wrote: Is the most used pgp program for the bat the free version located at http://www.pgp.com/downloads/freeware/index.html or is there something else better? I am new to PGP and have only been using the bat for about a month. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I use PGP as well, though I have GnuPG/GPGShell installed. I just find PGP to be less of a problem to use. However, your mileage may vary from mine so I'd suggest trying both. They can both coexist perfectly well on your system without one interfering with the other. I tend to switch back and forth between one or the other, but eventually settle with using PGP most of the time. -- -= Allie =- . Food is an important part of a balanced diet. __ IMAP [ Client: The Bat! v3.0.1.33 | Server: MDaemon Pro ] OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
filtering attachments
Hello All, I hope I am not asking questions that shouldn't be here and please tell me if I am but how would I filter attahcments with different extensions? example I want to move all messages with .exe attachments to a different folder. Is this possile? -- Thanks, Chris Using The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: batskin.ini file format
Hæ! Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 01:25, MaXxX wrote: I would like to vote a big no to the idea above. With many available file formats appropriate for this task - XML, for example - I would strongly advise against creating a yet another TB! proprietary format for users to learn... A no from me too. I vote too for XML. -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.2.1 Professional PopFile v0.22.0 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) +---+ | Get Firefox - Take back the web! | | http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesamp;id=22411amp;t=1 | +---+ Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
RE:batskin.ini file format
Hello Thorvald, Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 5:14:22 PM, you wrote: I would like to vote a big no to the idea above. With many available file formats appropriate for this task - XML, for example - I would strongly advise against creating a yet another TB! proprietary format for users to learn... A no from me too. I vote too for XML. aye, same here! -- regards, :eu-flag3: :de-bw: :safaribears: Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder... Using The Bat! v3.0.2.1, Opera v7.54.3865 on WinXP Home v2600 SP2 * PGP key available on request: send mail with subject 'PGP key request' pgpc6TVbmiM1k.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: batskin.ini file format
On Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 11:14:22 AM, Thorvald Neumann wrote: TN A no from me too. TN I vote too for XML. I have to agree with that as well. -- Mike Using The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: On S/MIME -- perhaps old news
On 2004-10-26 at 04:41:21 hggdh wrote: Now, I had never used the TB! S/MIME certificate generator (usually I run openssl to do something like this). Where is this nice generator hidden? At least, I can't seem to find the magical sequence of commands to enable the Generate button in the address book properties dialog. pgpFURsCQe5jR.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: On S/MIME -- perhaps old news
On 2004-10-26 at 21:28:44 Dimitry Andric wrote: Now, I had never used the TB! S/MIME certificate generator (usually I run openssl to do something like this). Where is this nice generator hidden? At least, I can't seem to find the magical sequence of commands to enable the Generate button in the address book properties dialog. Duh, I just found it... Never mind. :) I'm not sure why I didn't think of the account properties sooner. Probably because you do seem to have to do all other certificate stuff via the Address Book interface. A small hint in the help file indicating this would be nice, I guess. pgpkA0BUDp1aQ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: On S/MIME -- perhaps old news
Hello Dimitry, Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 14:36:50, you wrote: DA On 2004-10-26 at 21:28:44 Dimitry Andric wrote: Now, I had never used the TB! S/MIME certificate generator (usually I run openssl to do something like this). Where is this nice generator hidden? At least, I can't seem to find the magical sequence of commands to enable the Generate button in the address book properties dialog. DA Duh, I just found it... Never mind. :) I'm not sure why I didn't DA think of the account properties sooner. Probably because you do seem DA to have to do all other certificate stuff via the Address Book DA interface. A small hint in the help file indicating this would be DA nice, I guess. Well, Dimitry, now I do not feel so bad, after my rather dumb mistake. Also, you have to use the internal implementation, *not* the MS Crypto API for this to work. But there is still some more work to do here... I am not quite happy with the interface and the options... later I should have more to say on it. -- ..hggdh.. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 and BayesIt! 0.7.3 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 pgpqOUZJFLGfh.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: filtering attachments
Hello Chris, On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:36:33 -0400GMT Chris wrote: C example I want to move all messages with .exe attachments to a C different folder. Is this possile? yes, should be easy. Create a new filter with the condition File matching mask exe is attached and under actions choose the directory or the folder where you want to store the mail. -- Regards, Feli The Bat! 3.0.2.1 on Windows 2000 5.0 2195 Service Pack 4 BayesIt! 0.7.3 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Feature wish- allow user to permanently permit session with incomplete SSL/TLS server certs
Hello hggdh, Sunday, October 24, 2004, 5:46:31 PM, you wrote: h Hello Army RL, h Sunday, October 24, 2004, 14:58:59, you wrote: h (snip) h OK. Let me rephrase this. First of all you can add a rootless public h certificate in the base. The expectation is that you will, eventually h (and before actually using this certificate) add in the missing roots. The only reason I would/should need to add any certificate to the base is because I am concerned with authentication, ensuring what I have on file is what is presented to me each time I reinitiate comms with the server. I don't necessarily need that with a particular server, I simply want an encrypted channel for transporting my mail securely (hence privately:) from me to them. I use PGP for true message security and privacy anyways- especially since the storage of the message until retrieved by the recipient and how that user retrieves it may make all my transport prerequisites null and void anyways. back to your point- doing this, adding the rootless public to the base does nothing- the popup remains the same- with the same unselectable buttons- user is still forced to just OK or Cancel it... h Secondly, the security/privacy attained by the use of encryption is h also dependent on guaranteeing the integrity of the certificate (and, h by extension, of the public/private key pair it uses). not quite- you mix potatoes with tomatoes here... ;) althoughy all closely related I do admit, and in most settings all *should* be considered for perfection. but please correct me if I am wrong... Security, Privacy, and Authentication, while they are all very desirable together they *are* three separate functions as well they are all very familiar to those of us who use PGP, GPG, and dabble a bit in PKI/x509's (our dreaded certificate conversation again;) Security is at my box and at the server. When the server and client establish an encrypted transport, privacy is afforded enroute. this message is also secure from tampering... authentication, on the other hand (hence the potato/tomato line) is *very* nice almost to the point of should be required, however it is not a requirement- nor a standard as you will see from the quote I provide in response to your text below. h If you cannot safely confirm the public certificate, it follows that h you cannot trust the resulting generated symmetric keys, and encrypted h sessions using them. not so, at least in my case- I trust the algo and other details of the encrypted session- the only worry I would have is in knowing exactly *who* I have set up a session with. Once my personal requierments have been met- then all should be good... for me, the user... (errrm, not 1_user either;) h When you receive a certificate (on SSL negotiation) you do NOT trust h this certificate. What you trust, want it or not, is that it's h signature can be verified by a known authority -- known to you, and h accepted as such by you. This known authority is represented by the h root certificates you accepted to use. Your trust on the certificate h you received is transitive: you trust it because a know root confirms h it. And *THIS* root is trusted by you not to mess up. As such, if h there are missing intermediate root certificates, then there is no h trust transitivity, and the certificate you received is, by default, h tainted. sigh I understand- and agree... *If* I want that handshake to provide me proof of who it is I establish the session with... *If* I desire authentication, then yes- waht you have said above and most folks are saying is true. But, this particular user doesn't require authentication in this circumstance- call it sacriledge- but I don't. and by the RFC's and FAQs I can find on the matter it doesn't say this is required- only that the session must fail if authenticating the entity thru their session based certificate is requested. again, I simply want TB! to give me that option- if I don't want to authenticate, perhaps, thengive me plenty of warnings- but let me permanently accept that particular cert for future sessions- not force me to amnually OK it each time I connect to the server(s) in question (power to the people!! ;) AR This is not *always* so. If I was concerned with the entire PKI or AR hierarchy of it- then yes. If all I want to do is communicate via secure AR transport with a mail service and can verify the servers cert, as well AR other factors like the IP of the server, published info about the cert AR on the website, etc then I can be satisfied. My personal standard has AR been met in this case- and it may not always *require* having placed my AR trust completely in the CA or Intermediaries. Why must I trust them AR anyways? h Please let me give you an example of an issue here. Let's say your h mail server is at address 10.10.10.10, and it's fully qualified name h is mail.dummyserver.info. This means that you could query DNS on h 10.10.10.10, and would get mail.dummyserver.info as a
access violation when moving filter
Hello All, I hold down alt while dragging a folder from incoming folder to read folder. Anyone else repro this? -- Thanks, Chris Using The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
what is the 2 for in screencap?
Hello All, Please look at screencap. What does the 2 mean? I never seen before this version. -- Thanks, Chris Using The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2attachment: screen.png Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
