Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: Wish: HTML inline forwarding)

2004-11-11 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Marck,

  A reminder of what Marck D Pearlstone typed on:
  10 November 2004 at 22:31:24 GMT +0100

MDP Please include a signature delimiter in your messages.

 Not arguing here or trying to start a revolution or siding with anyone
 so please don't feel singled out Marck, I'm just curious...  :)

 He doesn't appear to use a signature at all so why the need for a
 delimiter? The part you quoted is added at the server end, not by the
 sender of the message.

 I can understand the obligatory use of a delimiter when actually using
 a signature but when you don't?


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Re: Currupted mail/repair

2004-11-11 Thread Tony Boom
Hello MAU,

  A reminder of what MAU typed on:
  11 November 2004 at 01:44:03 GMT +0100

M If you don't have it, download a 30 day evaluation (www.textpad.com)
M and try it.

 PSpad, it 100% free and quite phenomenal.

 http://www.pspad.com/


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MicroEd as standalone?

2004-11-11 Thread Marcus Ohlström
Are there any possibility MicroEd will ever be released as a standalone
editor? I often find myself opening up a new message just to use MicroEd
to format or compile text. I would love having MicroEd as my default
editor, but as long as there is no standalone version...

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Re: MicroEd as standalone?

2004-11-11 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Marcus,

  A reminder of what Marcus Ohlström typed on:
  11 November 2004 at 09:31:38 GMT +0100

MO Are there any possibility MicroEd will ever be released as a standalone
MO editor? I often find myself opening up a new message just to use MicroEd
MO to format or compile text. I would love having MicroEd as my default
MO editor, but as long as there is no standalone version...

 I support this 100%. I thought I was alone doing this, an underground
 MicroEd user. So glad someone else has come out the closet :)

 I mainly use it to spell check and format, it's so much easier and
 quicker than firing up Word.


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Re[2]: MicroEd as standalone?

2004-11-11 Thread Peter Hampf
Hello Tony,

on Thu, 11 Nov 2004 08:52:53 + GMT your local time you wrote:

TB  I support this 100%.

here's another one!

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Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: Wish: HTML inline forwarding)

2004-11-11 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Tony,

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 08:12:37 +GMT (11-11-2004, 9:12 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

TB  I can understand the obligatory use of a delimiter when actually using
TB  a signature but when you don't?

Because of the list footer.
We can't add a signature delimiter to the list footer, because that
would mean that for the rest of us our own signature delimiter would
be invalid since TB uses only the last one.

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Re: MicroEd as standalone?

2004-11-11 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Peter,

  A reminder of what Peter Hampf typed on:
  11 November 2004 at 09:59:48 GMT +0100

PH here's another one!

 Soon as I figure out how, I'll put it on the wish list.


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Re: MicroEd as standalone?

2004-11-11 Thread Marcus Ohlström

On Thursday, November 11, 2004, 09:52, Tony Boom wrote:

MO Are there any possibility MicroEd will ever be released as a
MO standalone editor?

 I support this 100%. I thought I was alone doing this, an underground
 MicroEd user. So glad someone else has come out the closet :)

:-)

Now, before filing a wish, I would appreciate a few words from Ritlabs.
Isn't Stefan the author of MicroEd? Stefan, what do you say?

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Re: Currupted mail/repair

2004-11-11 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Tony,

On 11-11-2004 09:22, you [TB] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
TB  PSpad, it 100% free and quite phenomenal.

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AV Sorting Office

2004-11-11 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ!

I just got an AV in the sorting office.

I tried to change a Selective Download-filter's action from Ignore
to Kill. The attached AV appeared. After clicking OK, you cannot
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Re: MicroEd as standalone?

2004-11-11 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Marcus,

  A reminder of what Marcus Ohlström typed on:
  11 November 2004 at 10:08:51 GMT +0100

MO Now, before filing a wish, I would appreciate a few words from Ritlabs.
MO Isn't Stefan the author of MicroEd? Stefan, what do you say?

 I'll hang on then.


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Re: Re[2]: MicroEd as standalone?

2004-11-11 Thread Mackley
Me too !
I love MicroEd.
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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.2.6 beta

2004-11-11 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Alain,

Monday, November 08, 2004, 17:26:56, you wrote:

Access violation at address 00712659 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 
0014.
when retrieving then content of a message on Hamster
Did you have On-The-Fly Encryption ON or OFF?

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Re: MicroEd as standalone?

2004-11-11 Thread Max Shirshin
Hello Marcus,

MO Are there any possibility MicroEd will ever be released as a standalone
MO editor? I often find myself opening up a new message just to use MicroEd
MO to format or compile text. I would love having MicroEd as my default
MO editor, but as long as there is no standalone version...

Would be nice indeed.

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Re: MicroEd as standalone?

2004-11-11 Thread Manuel Breitfeld
Hello Mackley,

on 11.11.2004 at 10:47 you wrote:

 I love MicroEd.
I would also love to have MicroEd as standalone.

BTW - Welcome again, lovely RTV...
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Re: MicroEd as standalone?

2004-11-11 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ!

Thursday, November 11, 2004, 11:11, Max Shirshin wrote:
 Would be nice indeed.

Yes, indeed. But only when it gets Unicode support... ;)

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Re: Currupted mail/repair

2004-11-11 Thread Foster, Graham
Hello Peter

 Tony,

 On 11-11-2004 09:22, you [TB] wrote in
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
TB  PSpad, it 100% free and quite phenomenal.

I'd even have PSPad as my MicroEd replacement if they manage to disentangle 
MicroEd from TB! one day ;-)

  
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Using 3.0.2.6

2004-11-11 Thread shemming
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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I've got a Pro licence and would like to use OTF encryption but ca
wait until the backup/restore problems are all sorted before trying
it. The question is, is 3.0.2.6 safe enough to use (notwithstanding
the normal warnings about betas) if I just overwrite my .exe?

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Re: MicroEd as standalone?

2004-11-11 Thread Stuart Hemming
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MO Are there any possibility MicroEd will ever be released as a standalone
MO editor?
snip
MO I would love having MicroEd as my default editor, but as long as
MO there is no standalone version...
On the flip side, it would be great if I could use my fave text editor
as the default for TB!.

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Re: Using 3.0.2.6

2004-11-11 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello shemming!

On Thursday, November 11, 2004 at 11:59:47 AM you wrote:

 it. The question is, is 3.0.2.6 safe enough to use (notwithstanding
 the normal warnings about betas) if I just overwrite my .exe?

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Re: Using 3.0.2.6

2004-11-11 Thread Tony Boom
Hello shemming,

  A reminder of what [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed on:
  11 November 2004 at 12:04:35 GMT +0100

sec The question is, is 3.0.2.6 safe enough to use (notwithstanding
sec the normal warnings about betas) if I just overwrite my .exe?

 I'd say it was. I'm using it in OTF mode and it's just as stable... For
 me it is anyway. (Usual disclaimer applies)  :)

 I installed it the way Marek suggested, that allowed me to CP all my
 filters over. Then I just imported all my mail and it's working fine.

 Don't have a clue what an AV is, I've never seen one.


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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.7 beta

2004-11-11 Thread Marcus Ohlström

On Thursday, November 11, 2004, 12:06, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

 The Bat! 3.0.2.7 beta fixes the following bug with the Restore from
 Backup:

This email has the exact same message ID as the release notification for
3.0.2.6.

Either you (Max) has somehow manage to manually create two emails with
the same mid (does that happen if you resend and/or redirect a
message?), or the version you are using is corrupt and produces the same
mid for different messages. I'll go with the former, other messages from
you did not have the same mid.

A note to Tony: Don't stop thread by reference, at least this I haven't
seen before. You just choose a bad moment to start threading :-)

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.7 beta

2004-11-11 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Marcus,

  A reminder of what Marcus Ohlström typed on:
  11 November 2004 at 12:48:31 GMT +0100

MO A note to Tony: Don't stop thread by reference, at least this I haven't
MO seen before. You just choose a bad moment to start threading  

 I'm still threading, finding it exceeding hard to keep track of new
 posts, normally I have it so all new posts appear in the list in the
 order they was written. Threading puts them all over the shop.

 Still looking for the mail that refers to 3.0.2.7, I not got that one
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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.7 beta

2004-11-11 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Tony,

  A reminder of what Tony Boom typed on:
  11 November 2004 at 13:05:59 GMT +0100

TB Still looking for the mail that refers to 3.0.2.7, I not got that one
TB  yet?

 Scrub round that I just changed the 6 to a 7 in the URL he sent for
 3026 like below and now I got it.

 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb30206.rar

 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb30207.rar


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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.7 beta

2004-11-11 Thread Marcus Ohlström

On Thursday, November 11, 2004, 13:05, Tony Boom wrote:

  I'm still threading, finding it exceeding hard to keep track of new
  posts, normally I have it so all new posts appear in the list in the
  order they was written. Threading puts them all over the shop.

I suppose you should try to get used to navigating with ctrl-left/right
(or ctrl-alt-left/right if you want a shortcut that works in any pane)
at the same time. I don't think I would stand threading if I navigated
by mouse.

  Still looking for the mail that refers to 3.0.2.7, I not got that one
  yet?

I could give you the mid, but since it's the same as that of the email
announcing 3.0.2.6 it won't do much good :-)

I can't find it neither in the Mail Archive, nor at gmane.

It was posted about one hour ago and read:

,-
| Hello,
| 
| The Bat! 3.0.2.7 beta fixes the following bug with the Restore from Backup:
| 
| [-] Sorting configuration and messages weren't restored from a backup archive 
in the On-The-Fly
| encryption mode.
| 
| http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb30207.rar  
| 
| You should only download this beta if you are using the On-The-Fly encryption 
mode.
| 
| 
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Re: Currupted mail/repair (now also IMAP)

2004-11-11 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Peter,

On 10-11-2004 22:38, you [PF] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
PF  I just got a your message base is corrupted - do you want to
PF  repair it now message.

Here at work I experienced the same for an IMAP folder.

I repaired and suddenly several messages were marked unread, some were
duplicated. I cleared the local cache and did a full re-sync. That
helped.

I believe the repair function is iffy.

Re-sync found some old messages - although I have set TB! to compress
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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.7 beta

2004-11-11 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Marcus,

Thursday, November 11, 2004, 12:47:56 PM, you wrote:

MO A note to Tony: Don't stop thread by reference, at least this I haven't
MO seen before. You just choose a bad moment to start threading  

I had thread by reference on before.
In a list with predominantly OE  Outlook users (don't know if that has
anything to do with it) it was a complete mess. I changed to thread by
subject, because a lot of the messages in that list DIDN'T EVEN HAVE a
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IMAP and I

2004-11-11 Thread Mark Partous


Hello Beta-Bats,

I took a FastMail-account in order to be able to try out IMAP.

(BTW, I still do not see much difference between using POP, leaving the
mail on the server and IMAP, but that's another issue)

I have some questions/remarks about this IMAP business.

1) No problem whatsoever receiving mail.
2) Send a new message:
   a) When I am in the Inbox and I create a new message, trying to send it
  results in a message not being sent in the Out box.
   b) Being in the Drafts folder everything works fine and messages are
  being sent.
3) Whenever I am in my FastMail account, the connection center stays open
   permanently (saying  copy messages on server to waiting (free
   translation)) unless I choose abort all. Is this a bug or am I doing
   something wrong?
  
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Mark
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Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 4:59:44) on Uno 
AMD Duron
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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.7 beta

2004-11-11 Thread Julien RANC
Hello Maxim,

Recently, I saw:

MM Hello,

MM The Bat! 3.0.2.7 beta fixes the following bug with the Restore from Backup:

MM [-] Sorting configuration and messages weren't restored from
MM a backup archive in the On-The-Fly encryption mode.

Confirmed as fixed. I successfully restored all accounts and emails
with on the fly encryption turned on. Thanks for this bugfix.

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Re: Using 3.0.2.6

2004-11-11 Thread Stuart Hemming
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Following Maxim's message I downloaded 3.0.2.7, did a backup and
uninstalled TB (for safety I copied my old TB setup first).

Then I installed from the PRO msi file, copied the 3.0.2.7 exe over
that installed my the msi file and fired it up. There are 2 things to
note; (1) I wasn't asked if I wanted to use OFT encryption and (2)
even though none of my folders existed TB seemed to know about all of
my accounts from the old install.

- --
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If your attack is going too well, you're probably walking into an
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Re: Using 3.0.2.6

2004-11-11 Thread Stuart Hemming
SH There are 2 things to note; (1) I wasn't asked if I wanted to use
SH OFT encryption and (2) even though none of my folders existed TB
SH seemed to know about all of my accounts from the old install.
I had another go after noticing that there's a checkbox on the
uninstaller telling it to hang on to your data; I unchecked that and
reinstalled and all seems OK and I'm now using the OTF encryption.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.7 beta

2004-11-11 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Thursday, November 11, 2004, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

 The Bat! 3.0.2.7 beta fixes the following bug with the Restore from Backup:

 [-] Sorting configuration and messages weren't restored from a
 backup archive in the On-The-Fly encryption mode.

confirm as fixed in encrypoted mode. Thanks

-- 

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Re: Calendars

2004-11-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dierk,

On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 22:37:38 +0100 GMT (10/11/2004, 04:37 +0700 GMT),
Dierk Haasis wrote:

DH For the sake of cultural relativism, let RITLabs make TB as flexible
DH as possible, Jews and traditionalists may want to start their week on
DH the last day of the week-end, others may choose Saturday, I do like
DH the ISO-norm, if only to make business easy. And I have no idea on
DH what day Chinese, Japanese, Aborigines or Heterocephalus glaber do
DH start their (working) week.

I don't know about the others, but real Chinese work seven days a
week! ;-)

DH It's totally arbitrary!

I agree. And that's why an international standard was invented in
order to avoid misunderstandings. Day 1 in the airline industry is
Monday, and even though I grew up with Sunday being the first day of
the week, I have changed my paradigm. It doesn't really matter, the
point is that people understand one another. Hence, I like the ISO
norm as well.

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Late receipt of message (was:3.0.2.5 is awesome)

2004-11-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Paul,

On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 21:54:38 + GMT (08/11/2004, 04:54 +0700 GMT),
Paul White wrote:

PW On Sunday, 07 November 2004 at 16:14 (UK time), I said:

PW Aha, the message turned up then, over FIVE hours late. :)

Not here. First Received header:

PW Received: from du-069-0309.access.clara.net ([217.158.145.55])
PW by relay2.mail.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 4.34)
PW id 1CQv23-000Hpc-Ct
PW for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 07 Nov 2004 21:57:08 +
PW Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 21:54:38 +

Under three minutes from your creation timestamp to receipt by the
first MTA. Less than my mail checksend interval.

PW Received: (qmail 20552 invoked by uid 65534); 7 Nov 2004 21:57:13 -

This is when my SMTP server got it. 5 seconds later.

Please post the Received headers here to let us have a look at where
the message sat so long.

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Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maurice,

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 07:56:45 +0100 GMT (10/11/2004, 13:56 +0700 GMT),
Maurice Snellen wrote:

MS In most germanic languages and even in English (anglo-saxon), the
MS names of the days are derived from nature and scandinavian gods.
MS Other languages may have the same, but I'm not familiar enough
MS with them to comment.

Just to chip in here:

In Chinese, Monday is called Day-one, Tuesday is Day-two.  There
is an exception to the rule on the weekend, I forgot.

In Thai, the days are named after celestial bodies: Monday is
Moon-Day, Tuesday is Venus-Day (if I'm not mixing up the names of
the planets). Sunday is Sun-Day.

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Thomas.

Deine Stereoanlage hat aber viele Knoepfe! - Na, ja, mit
Reissverschluss saehe sie ja auch ziemlich bloed aus.

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.2.7 beta

2004-11-11 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Tony,
Thursday, November 11, 2004, 6:05:02 AM, you wrote:

TB I'm still threading, finding it exceeding hard to keep track of new
TB  posts, normally I have it so all new posts appear in the list in the
TB  order they was written. Threading puts them all over the shop.
 
 Try View/Display/Only Unread Messages. I have Ctrl + \ set as a
 shortcut for this. Ctrl + =  brings all messages back again.
 
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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.7 beta

2004-11-11 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Marcus,

  A reminder of what Marcus Ohlström typed on:
  11 November 2004 at 13:16:37 GMT +0100

MO [-] Sorting configuration and messages weren't restored from a
MO backup archive in the On-The-Fly | encryption mode.

MO | You should only download this beta if you are using the On-The-Fly
MO encryption mode.

 Shouldn't that read if you are not using the On-The-Fly encryption
 mode and would like to.^^^

Those of us that are using it have already found a way to restore
filters and messages. Those that aren't can't use it because they don't
know how to restore them.

OK, it's relevant for future backup/restores when using OTF but not
initially as suggested.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.6 beta

2004-11-11 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Mon 8-Nov-04 6:03am -0600, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

 Hello,

 The Bat! 3.0.2.6 beta fixes the Access Violation
 bugs in the On-The-Fly mode, reported by Marek Mikus.

 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb30206.rar

Is someone there working on a way to use the new
encryption without needing to uninstall TB! (including
all registry entries), install a fresh msi release,
then restore the registry and overwrite thebat.exe
before starting again - if this is the correct
procedure?

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.7 beta

2004-11-11 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Stuart,

  A reminder of what Stuart Cuddy typed on:
  11 November 2004 at 15:39:01 GMT +0100

SC Try View/Display/Only Unread Messages.

 I'll try it thank you.


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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.6 beta

2004-11-11 Thread Stuart Hemming
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BM uninstall TB! (including all registry entries), install a fresh
BM msi release, then restore the registry and overwrite thebat.exe
BM before starting again - if this is the correct procedure?
That's pretty much how I did it with the added step of using the 3027
exe to do the backup with first.

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It's all fun and games 'til someone loses an eye! Then it's a SPORT!

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On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-11 Thread Nick Andriash
Would someone mind explaining the procedure for enabling 'On The Fly
Encryption' with this latest TB Pro Beta 3.0.2.7?

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Re: IMAP and I

2004-11-11 Thread Allie Martin
Hi  Mark,

You wrote:

 (BTW, I still do not see much difference between using POP, leaving the
 mail on the server and IMAP, but that's another issue)

POP3

- You cannot create folders on the server.

- You cannot mark messages as read, forwarded, replied, flagged, parked
  on the server so that when you view them with another TB! install on
  another machine you see the same attributes as with the other TB!
  install.

- You cannot store sent messages on the server so that you can view
  messages sent from one location at another location.

There's more. IMAP is *the* way to go if you wish to manage the same
account on multiple machines and at the same time keeping fully abreast
and in sync with what's done at each location. If you try this with POP
it's rather tedious.

 I have some questions/remarks about this IMAP business.

 1) No problem whatsoever receiving mail.

OK.

 2) Send a new message:
a) When I am in the Inbox and I create a new message, trying to send it
   results in a message not being sent in the Out box.

Is the message sent at all, in that, does the recipient receive the
message. Is your Outbox local or on the server? To check that, look in
your account properties under the Mail Management section. You can
assign the Outbox, Sent and Trash folders to be server side or local.
Disable the option/s for the folder/s you wish to be local.

A local Outbox works more reliably.

b) Being in the Drafts folder everything works fine and messages are
   being sent.

I'm not sure what you mean here.

 3) Whenever I am in my FastMail account, the connection center stays open
permanently (saying  copy messages on server to waiting (free
translation)) unless I choose abort all. Is this a bug or am I doing
something wrong?

IMAP involves working with the server all the time. You're working with
the messages as they are on the server. As a result, the CC will always
be open.

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Re: IMAP and I

2004-11-11 Thread Kevin J. Menard, Jr.
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 11:47:59 -0600 (CST), Allie Martin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 IMAP involves working with the server all the time. You're working with
 the messages as they are on the server. As a result, the CC will always
 be open.

Yes, this is quite annoying.  Oddly enough, I have 3 IMAP accounts,
one of which has filters that move messages to a folder on a different
accont.  This is the only account that stays active in the CC (which
is why I say oddly).

In any event, I like having my tb! in the systray, but using CC, I
always have something in the taskbar.  It'd be really nice if the CC
were a pane in tb! that could be made a separate window for those that
want it.  I use the full-height account tree view, and wouldn't mind
sacrificing some account tree real estate to have the CC be a pane
that sits below the account tree.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.6 beta

2004-11-11 Thread Allie Martin

Hi  Bill,

You wrote:

 Is someone there working on a way to use the new encryption without
 needing to uninstall TB! (including all registry entries), install a
 fresh msi release, then restore the registry and overwrite thebat.exe
 before starting again - if this is the correct procedure?

You don't need to install an MSI really.

You just need to make the current executable run without it finding a
registry tree.

You can do this by running it from another location other than your
current installation and forcing it to generate a new registry key.
Marek outlined how to do that in his message
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Once TB! sees it's a fresh installation, it'll ask you what you wish to
do.

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Re: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-11 Thread Allie Martin
Hi  Nick,
You wrote:

 Would someone mind explaining the procedure for enabling 'On The Fly
 Encryption' with this latest TB Pro Beta 3.0.2.7?

- Backup TB! using the TB! backup.

- Backup TB! by exporting the registry key to file and Backing up the
  installation directory and mail directories. This is the failsafe in
  case the TB! backup fails you.

- Unistall TB! completely.

- Reinstall TB! using one of the MSI installers and then overwrite the
  TB! executable with the new beta, i.e., v3.0.2.7. *DO NOT* run the new
  installation prior to overwriting the executable with the new beta.

- When the new beta runs, it will ask if you wish to use on the fly
  encryption. Choose that. You can then go on to restore from backup
  rather than creating fresh accounts.


If you wish to keep your current installation going and try this on the
fly encryption, you can create a parallel installation that uses its own
registry branch.

- Copy your installation directory to another folder.

- Overwrite the TB! executable in that new folder with the current beta
  executable

- Create a shortcut to the new executable and then go in the properties
  of the shortcut. To the executable path, add the reg: parameter so
  that it's like this.
  C:/Program Files/new folder/thebat.exe /reg:Beta
  This will lead to the building of a new registry branch on execution.

- Run TB! using that shortcut and you'll be prompted for using on the
  fly encryption etc.

Good Luck! :)

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_
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Re: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-11 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Nick,

  A reminder of what Nick Andriash typed on:
  11 November 2004 at 19:22:38 GMT +0100

NA Would someone mind explaining the procedure for enabling 'On The Fly
NA Encryption' with this latest TB Pro Beta 3.0.2.7?

 1. Use The Bats inbuilt backup to create a complete backup of all your
 accounts, filters etc.

 2. Delete all RIT registry entries...
 HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!

 3. Run The Bat as normal and it should start from fresh asking you if
 you want to use OTF. Careful you don't miss it, it's a tiny check box
 at the top of a lot of writing.

 4. Follow on screen prompts.

 5. Choose restore from backup and navigate to where you stored the
 backup in step 1.

 6. Don't forget your password :)


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Re: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-11 Thread Nick Andriash
Allie Martin wrote:

- Run TB! using that shortcut and you'll be prompted for using on the
  fly encryption etc.

Good Luck! :)
  

So far, so good Allie, but I want to use my iKey Token... only I do not
have the URL's to download the iKey Token Manager and Driver. Do you
still have those URL's  instructions handy?


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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.7 beta

2004-11-11 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Stuart,

  A reminder of what Stuart Cuddy typed on:
  11 November 2004 at 15:39:01 GMT +0100

SC  Try View/Display/Only Unread Messages.

OK, brilliant idea, how do I get it to work? Every time I open TB! they
are ALL on display again.

 Is there a way to make this Display only unread messages setting
 stick or do I have to enable it every time I start TB!?
 


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Re: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-11 Thread Nick Andriash
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On Thursday, November 11, 2004, at 12:15:09 PM, Nick wrote:

 So far, so good Allie, but I want to use my iKey Token... only I do not
 have the URL's to download the iKey Token Manager and Driver. Do you
 still have those URL's  instructions handy?

Never mind Allie. I followed your and Tony's instructions, finally found my
original Email with the iKey Token Manager and Driver Downloads URL... and
now have everything working just fine.

Thanks Tony and Allie for all your help.



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Re: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-11 Thread Allie Martin
Hi  Nick,

You wrote:

 So far, so good Allie, but I want to use my iKey Token... only I do
 not have the URL's to download the iKey Token Manager and Driver. Do
 you still have those URL's  instructions handy?

I haven't used an iKey since mine went on the blink.

I found being able to just use a strong passphrase to be a godsend with
less chances of failure. :)

I've since lost the various links for the iKey Token Manager. Sorry.


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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.7 beta

2004-11-11 Thread Allie Martin
Hi  Tony,

You wrote:

 OK, brilliant idea, how do I get it to work? Every time I open TB!
 they are ALL on display again.

  Is there a way to make this Display only unread messages setting
  stick or do I have to enable it every time I start TB!?

Unfortunately, there isn't a way to make that option stick between
restarts.

Another way to view only unread messages is through the ticker virtual
folder. Configure the ticker to display messages only for those folders
you wish to and then open the ticker folder. If it's the first time
you're doing this, the message list may not be shown and you have to
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Re: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-11 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Nick,

  A reminder of what Nick Andriash typed on:
  11 November 2004 at 20:18:06 GMT +0100

NA Thanks Tony and Allie for all your help.

 Your more than welcome. Had I followed this advice from Allie yesterday
 it would have been easier for me.

AM - Create a shortcut to the new executable and then go in the properties
AM   of the shortcut. To the executable path, add the reg: parameter so
AM   that it's like this.
AM   C:/Program Files/new folder/thebat.exe /reg:Beta
AM   This will lead to the building of a new registry branch on execution.

Instead of that I went the long way round and created two reg entries by
installing, uninstalling twice then and editing the respective reg file
to get it go where I wanted... Didn't think just adding a switch would
create it automatically for me.

While we're on the subject, are these ikey thingies special or could I
used an SD card or memory stick?


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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.7 beta

2004-11-11 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Allie,

On 11-11-2004 20:25, you [AM] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
AM Unfortunately, there isn't a way to make that option stick between
AM restarts.

AM Another way to view only unread messages is through the ticker virtual
AM folder. Configure the ticker to display messages only for those folders
AM you wish to and then open the ticker folder.

A third way is to assign a view mode that has the filter condition
Message attributes message is unread?


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Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-11 Thread Avi Yashar
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:18:13 +0700, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

 In Chinese, Monday is called Day-one, Tuesday is Day-two.  There
 is an exception to the rule on the weekend, I forgot.

Thomas, if we are going to get down to such detail, then in Hebrew,
Sunday is Yom Rishon (First Day). The numbering continues until
Saturday, which is called Yom Shabat (Sabbath Day).

Furthermore, the vast majority of Western calendars and the standard
calendar in the Windows operating system (at least the English
version) shows Sunday as the first day of the week.

Even if ISO has set a standard, their decision might not have been the
best. And, good or bad, it is still too soon for Ritlabs to be
imposing that standard in a rigid fashion. Why should this be thrust
on TB users like some sort of religious dogma? Perhaps from some
absolute perspective, the numbers assigned to the days of the week are
largely arbitrary. ISO might just as well have declared Wednesday as
the first day of the week. After all, these are just communication
symbols. But why use symbols that are likely to confuse? Why use
symbols that impose unnecessary definitions?  Why use symbols that are
likely to offend the religious or cultural sensibilities of others?
Why not retain - or at least allow the retention of - the rich context
of an historical and cultural legacy?

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.2.6 beta

2004-11-11 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Bill,

Thursday, November 11, 2004, 16:54:10, you wrote:

install a fresh msi release,
then restore the registry and overwrite thebat.exe
before starting again - if this is the correct
procedure?
There is no need to install the MSI. Just delete The Bat! registry entry and 
run the latest beta.


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Re[2]: Using 3.0.2.6

2004-11-11 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Stuart,

Thursday, November 11, 2004, 15:32:03, you wrote:

Then I installed from the PRO msi file, 

Who said that you needed to install the MSI to activate the OTFE?

copied the 3.0.2.7 exe over
that installed my the msi file and fired it up.

You need to delete The Bat! registry branch before running this beta.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.7 beta

2004-11-11 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Allie,

  A reminder of what Allie Martin typed on:
  11 November 2004 at 20:26:35 GMT +0100

AM Unfortunately, there isn't a way to make that option stick between
AM restarts.

 Thanks for that Allie. Normally all my unread messages appear at the
 bottom or the list. OK, they don't run in true context with the rest of
 the messages but at least they're easy to fine.

 Trouble now is I have to look for the unread icons, the little
 envelopes but read and unread are very similar unless I have my nose up
 to the screen... Comes with age I'm afraid.

 I'm going to have a play with a filter and see if I can't colour new
 unread mail dayglo yellow or red and green stripes, something like that :)


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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.7 beta

2004-11-11 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Peter,

  A reminder of what Peter Fjelsten typed on:
  11 November 2004 at 20:36:25 GMT +0100

PF A third way is to assign a view mode that has the filter condition
PF Message attributes message is unread?

 I have done, see attached png and see if you can tell what one is
 unread? The red ones are from me, the teal ones are from me but not
 coloured because of unread messages and the unread new one?

 I might get to like this fredding after all... Or I would do if my
 posts took less than 20 minutes to get to the list.


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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.7 beta

2004-11-11 Thread Allie Martin
Hi  Tony,

You wrote:

 AM Unfortunately, there isn't a way to make that option stick between
 AM restarts.

  Thanks for that Allie.

Actually, there's a way that Peter mentioned. I just hadn't thought of
it.

Create a view mode that uses the filter to show only unread messages.
It'll stick between restarts like glue. :)


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Re: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-11 Thread Thomas Woelk
* Nick Andriash [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 So far, so good Allie, but I want to use my iKey Token... only I do not
 have the URL's to download the iKey Token Manager and Driver.

» Ritlabs SecureBat! Token Manager  Activation Utility for iKey1000
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/securebat/ikey1000/TokenMgrSetup.exe

» Rainbow iKey Driver
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/securebat/ikey1000/iKeyDriver344.exe

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IMAP performance no longer what it used to be.

2004-11-11 Thread Allie Martin
Hi,
My little vacation with an open IMAP port at work is done. They've
closed it and I now have to find my way around. I'm again using an HTTP
Tunnel application.
I do recall at one time switching back and forth between TB! and
ThunderBird and not seeing any significant difference in performance
once I tuned TB! to work similarly to ThunderBird.
Now, it's not so. TB! is now bogged down with a tremendous queue of what
I really don't know. A lot of server count requests, something I used to
do without problems. I'm now back to using ThunderBird.
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Re: IMAP performance no longer what it used to be.

2004-11-11 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Allie,

On Thursday, November 11, 2004 16:03 your local time, which was 21:03 my
local time, Allie Martin [AM] wrote;

AM My little vacation with an open IMAP port at work is done. They've
AM closed it and I now have to find my way around.

Fingers crossed this doesn't happen to me :-/

AM Now, it's not so. TB! is now bogged down with a tremendous queue of what
AM I really don't know. A lot of server count requests, something I used to
AM do without problems. I'm now back to using ThunderBird.

This is a similar problem to what I am having, although, I've just spent
some time reviewing and adjusting a few settings here.

At home, I don't mind keeping the connection to the server open, but at
work, I'm not happy leaving the connection and port open and therefore
attempt to connect, sync and then close. But as you say, things are less
fluent now than they were a while back (see my thread at
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]).

I'm hoping it's just a bad spell before we see improvements :-(

AM IMAP Clients: ThundeBird | SquirrelMail | The Bat!

Sorry to pick up on this, but your Thunderbird seems to have lost an 'R'
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Re: IMAP performance no longer what it used to be.

2004-11-11 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Allie,

On 11-11-2004 22:03, you [AM] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
AM Now, it's not so. TB! is now bogged down with a tremendous queue of
AM what I really don't know. A lot of server count requests, something
AM I used to do without problems.

I have this as well for the last 3-4 betas.

TB! locks up for no reason executing a task.

At work I have found that unticking retrieve message structure with
message headers lessens the problems somewhat but TB! is definitely
worse.

Worst thing is that gong back to 3.0.1.33 (my reference version) does
not really help.

AM --
AM Allie Martin

Ouch! :)

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Re[2]: IMAP performance no longer what it used to be.

2004-11-11 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Peter,

On Thursday, November 11, 2004 22:19 your local time, which was 21:19 my
local time, Peter Fjelsten [PF] wrote;

AM --
AM Allie Martin

PF Ouch! :)

lol - I didn't want to say anything :-)

I'm sure it was just an innocent accident, we all do them, either that,
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Re: IMAP performance no longer what it used to be.

2004-11-11 Thread Allie Martin
Chris Weaven wrote:
 AM My little vacation with an open IMAP port at work is done. They've
 AM closed it and I now have to find my way around.

 Fingers crossed this doesn't happen to me :-/
I doubt you'd have to worry about that. I never did really have that
port available behind my work proxy. They had it open for experimental
reasons and I stumbled upon it. The experiment is now over.
HTTP-Tunnel seems to be working pretty well for the time being. I've
grown accustomed to the unpredictability of things here. I just use the
method available. Sometimes there's none and I just do something else.
 This is a similar problem to what I am having, although, I've just
 spent some time reviewing and adjusting a few settings here.
Yeah. If it were only a queue having too much problem, then I'd lower
the frequency of folder counts. However, it's more than that. The queue
frequently hangs.
The frequency of CC checks to see and minister unto and nurse along
what's happening borders on the impractical. No. I change my mind. It's
impractical. :)
 At home, I don't mind keeping the connection to the server open, but
 at work, I'm not happy leaving the connection and port open and
 therefore attempt to connect, sync and then close. But as you say,
 things are less fluent now than they were a while back (see my thread
 at mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]).

 I'm hoping it's just a bad spell before we see improvements :-(
Yes. I do hope so myself. Multiple server connection support should
herald some improvements. I doubt we'll see any significant changes
until then.
 Sorry to pick up on this, but your Thunderbird seems to have lost an
 'R' in flight :-)
Wow! A bug in the signature. My first bug fix in a while. Thanks.
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Re: IMAP performance no longer what it used to be.

2004-11-11 Thread Allie Martin
Chris Weaven wrote:
AM My little vacation with an open IMAP port at work is done. They've
AM closed it and I now have to find my way around.
Fingers crossed this doesn't happen to me :-/
I doubt you'd have to worry about that. I never did really have that
port available behind my work proxy. They had it open for experimental
reasons and I stumbled upon it. The experiment is now over.
HTTP-Tunnel seems to be working pretty well for the time being. I've
grown accustomed to the unpredictability of things here. I just use the
method available. Sometimes there's none and I just do something else.
This is a similar problem to what I am having, although, I've just
spent some time reviewing and adjusting a few settings here.
Yeah. If it were only a queue having too much problem, then I'd lower
the frequency of folder counts. However, it's more than that. The queue
frequently hangs.
The frequency of CC checks to see and minister unto and nurse along
what's happening borders on the impractical. No. I change my mind. It's
impractical. :)
At home, I don't mind keeping the connection to the server open, but
at work, I'm not happy leaving the connection and port open and
therefore attempt to connect, sync and then close. But as you say,
things are less fluent now than they were a while back (see my thread
at mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]).
I'm hoping it's just a bad spell before we see improvements :-(
Yes. I do hope so myself. Multiple server connection support should
herald some improvements. I doubt we'll see any significant changes
until then.
Sorry to pick up on this, but your Thunderbird seems to have lost an
'R' in flight :-)
Wow! A bug in the signature. My first bug fix in a while. Thanks.
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Re: IMAP performance no longer what it used to be.

2004-11-11 Thread Allie Martin
Chris Weaven wrote:
 AM --
 AM Allie Martin

 PF Ouch! :)

 lol - I didn't want to say anything :-)

 I'm sure it was just an innocent accident, we all do them, either that,
 or Allie is being rebellious now the shoe is on the other foot ;-)
I'm not really sure what happened.
ThunderBird generates that sig delimiter. shrug
I see that it was OK on my other message. When I copy and paste the
signature delimiter in an editor, the space seems to be there. Odd.
After pushing those rules for so long, I feel naked defying them. ;)
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Re: IMAP performance no longer what it used to be.

2004-11-11 Thread Allie Martin
Peter Fjelsten wrote:
 AM what I really don't know. A lot of server count requests, something
 AM I used to do without problems.

 I have this as well for the last 3-4 betas.

 TB! locks up for no reason executing a task.

 At work I have found that unticking retrieve message structure with
 message headers lessens the problems somewhat but TB! is definitely
 worse.
Already done. I never used that setting at work. That setting is for
fast connections like at home on the LAN.
One thing ThunderBird has that is bandwidth friendly is the ability to
configure whether or not a folder is checked for new messages.
Currently, for TB!, it's an all or none thing. The 'refresh folder'
option refreshes the counts for all folders. If you have a lot of
folders then it's a lot of folders to check. I've been catching it doing
counts from 0 on some of the folders. Very time consuming.
With ThunderBird, I have only 4 of my 21 folders checked for messages
periodically. Additionally, it checks for new messages very quickly. I
don't what it does differently.
 Worst thing is that gong back to 3.0.1.33 (my reference version) does
 not really help.
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Re: Toolbar Change

2004-11-11 Thread Zygmunt Wereszczynski
On Thursday, November 11, 2004, at 08:25:32 [UTC+1100] (Thursday, November
11, 2004 22:25 my local time) Ian A. White wrote:

 Has one of the toolbars changed?

Yes, it happened with TB 3.02.6 version. In encrypted mode The Bat! has no
menu entry for account password protection (it is only one password required
globally for entire program), that's the way the icon was removed from
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Re: Toolbar Change

2004-11-11 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Ian,

  A reminder of what Ian A. White typed on:
  11 November 2004 at 22:26:18 GMT +0100

IAW I cannot recall when this happened, but the Main toolbar ended up
IAW shifted one button width over to the right.

 I just had a look at the configuration toolbar, clicked on Network and
 Administration and this is what I got and I get it every time I click
 OK.

 Now I know what an AV is. Glad I don't use that toolbar.


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Re: IMAP performance no longer what it used to be.

2004-11-11 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Allie,

On 11-11-2004 22:53, you [AM] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Worst thing is that gong back to 3.0.1.33 (my reference version)
  does not really help.

AM I've discovered *that* as well.

Which is strange, isn't it? One would think that a new *.exe was all
that was needed to get back the performance of yore? Since nothing else
is installed, I don't get it.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.7 beta

2004-11-11 Thread Zygmunt Wereszczynski
On Thursday, November 11, 2004, at 13:06:12 [UTC+0200] (Thursday, November
11, 2004 12:06 my local time) Maxim Masiutin wrote:

 The Bat! 3.0.2.7 beta fixes the following bug with the Restore from Backup:

 [-] Sorting configuration and messages weren't restored from a backup
 archive in the On-The-Fly encryption mode.

Yes, I generally confirm those bugs were fixed, but I have problems with
retrieving of password protected accounts.

I have two such accounts and two error messages appeared during retrieving
accounts structure form the backup. Backup copy was produced by TB 3.02.6 in
non-encrypted mode. I ignored the errors and all my accounts but these two
were successfully retrieved. Password protected accounts had no messages,
but folder structure and other settings were OK.

I switched to non-encrypted mode, remove password protection and made backup
copy for lacking accounts. Then import to encrypted base was correct.

P.S. On-The-Fly encryption is really fast!

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Re: Toolbar Change

2004-11-11 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Tony Boom  everyone else

on 11-Nov-2004 at 23:01:00 (GMT +0100), you wrote:

  I just had a look at the configuration toolbar, clicked on Network and
  Administration and this is what I got and I get it every time I click
  OK.

No problem here (Home version).

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Re: Toolbar Change

2004-11-11 Thread Zygmunt Wereszczynski
On Thursday, November 11, 2004, at 09:05:13 [UTC+1100] (Thursday, November
11, 2004 23:05 my local time) Ian A. White wrote:

 Should it be there if encrypted mode is not use, or is account
 password protection gone completely if encrypted mode is not used?

Yes, I think so. I was also surprised this empty place on the toolbar, even
in non-encrypted mode.

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Re: Toolbar Change

2004-11-11 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Alexander,

  A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz typed on:
  11 November 2004 at 23:07:36 GMT +0100

ASK No problem here (Home version).

It's just one of life little drawbacks for us professionals :)


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Re: Toolbar Change

2004-11-11 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Tony Boom  everyone else

on 11-Nov-2004 at 23:15:07 (GMT +0100), you wrote:

ASK No problem here (Home version).

 It's just one of life little drawbacks for us professionals :)

Well, as a pro, you surely can deal with it. ;-)

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Encryption Algorithm

2004-11-11 Thread znark
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G'day TBBETA,

What encryption algorithm is used in The Bat! in on the fly
encryption?

Is it some well known \ tried and tested algorithm like RSA, AES,
DES, Blowfish, Diffe\Helman ... etc or is it some proprietary \
closed source encryption?

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Does fuzzy logic tickle?

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Re: Encryption Algorithm

2004-11-11 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello znark!

On Thursday, November 11, 2004 at 11:28:57 PM you wrote:

 What encryption algorithm is used in The Bat! in on the fly
 encryption?

Yep, that's one I want to know, too. Actually it would be very nice to
get much more info on this issue since I believe in know ledge,
especially when it comes to security features.

What algorithm?
40-bit, 128-bit or more?





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Re: Encryption Algorithm

2004-11-11 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Thursday, November 11, 2004, znark wrote:

 What encryption algorithm is used in The Bat! in on the fly
 encryption?

 Is it some well known \ tried and tested algorithm like RSA, AES,
 DES, Blowfish, Diffe\Helman ... etc or is it some proprietary \
 closed source encryption?

cipher RC2 with 128bit key is used, YOu can see description here for
example: http://www.rsasecurity.com/rsalabs/node.asp?id=2249

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On-the-Fly Encryption

2004-11-11 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello TBBETA Members!

  I am not a happy ...

  Sorry, wrong movie.

  Nevertheless, I am not happy with the current state of the
  encryption. I tried the delete RIT reg tree-approach and do now
  have more than just a bit of trouble.

  First I did a Backup of my accounts and I exported the RIT reg tree.
  Then I started TB, got the wizard [don't laugh, Mary], foolishly
  created a test account and so on. None of my settings were there.
  I restored from my backup and had all my accounts back (hopefully
  with everything I need), still TB looked very different to what I
  want it to look like. Most obvious was the language, I prefer the
  English interface to the German.

  Well, I thought, you do have the exported reg tree. I double clicked
  it, got all my settings back - but lost the encryption. Not good.

  Tried that a bit back and forth, had no nerve to find out which of
  the many keys, dwords and whatnots I do have to export and re-import
  to get the best of both worlds: my customisation and the encryption.

  Whatever I now use - I guess the old MB - for the time being the
  transition is sub-optimal (or should I call it NASA?).
  



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Re: On-the-Fly Encryption

2004-11-11 Thread Allie Martin
On Thursday, November 11, 2004 at 6:17:34 PM [GMT -0500], Dierk Haasis
wrote:

 I am not a happy ...

I'm not happy either.

I've managed to get an encrypted installation going. I restored from a
backup just fine. However, TB! seems to be having the dickens of a time
getting the local cache going for these IMAP mailboxes.

I'm getting a lot of lockups and pauses. The TBBETA folder has all
messages duplicated. The black coloured messages are Ok, but the blue
coloured (that's the colour in the message list) messages show no body
text when selected.

I'm also getting AV's. :(

Additionally, the first time I ran v3.0.2.7, the preview pane filled the
entire window. So all I saw was a grey window with 'Message not loaded'
in the middle of it.

I changed to another split view mode to get out of that situation.

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Re[2]: On The Fly Encryption

2004-11-11 Thread NetVicious
jueves, 11 nov 2004 at 20:17, it seems you wrote:

 Never mind Allie. I followed your and Tony's instructions, finally found my
 original Email with the iKey Token Manager and Driver Downloads URL... and
 now have everything working just fine.

What you made for use the iKey with the TB! ?

I  have  my  iKey  activated and it was running correctly with the old
SecureBat v1.x

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Jumping windows

2004-11-11 Thread Cristina Ramos
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Hello,

I've been away for some time so I don't know if this problem has been
discussed.

When I'm reading some message in the Message Auto-view pane and
downloading new messages at the same time, TB jumps me to the Inbox
and if I try to get back to the message I was reading, that will
happen again and again. This didn't use to happen before to me. This
started to happen in version 3.0.2.5. I didn't try the more recent
updates yet, but they do not seem to address this problem.


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Re: MicroEd as standalone?

2004-11-11 Thread Neal Laugman
Hi Marcus

 Are there any possibility MicroEd will ever be released as a
 standalone editor? I often find myself opening up a new message just
 to use MicroEd to format or compile text. I would love having
 MicroEd as my default editor, but as long as there is no standalone
 version...

My yearning for a free-carat text editor send me first back to Turbo
Pascal 7 and TurboPower's Object Professional. Not having the stomach
for that anymore, I found http://www.textpad.com which is not bad, but
I too yearn for MicroEd standing on his own. Nothing compares to
MicroEd for what it is.

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Re: MicroEd as standalone?

2004-11-11 Thread Gonçalo Farias

MO Are there any possibility MicroEd will ever be released as a standalone
MO editor? I often find myself opening up a new message just to use MicroEd

I feel the same way!


MO to format or compile text. I would love having MicroEd as my default
MO editor, but as long as there is no standalone version...

Me too.



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Re: IMAP and I

2004-11-11 Thread Gonalo Farias
MP Hello Beta-Bats,

MP I took a FastMail-account in order to be able to try out IMAP.

MP (BTW, I still do not see much difference between using POP, leaving the
MP mail on the server and IMAP, but that's another issue)

But you would, if you like to keep the sent mails! :)


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Gmail is hot!

2004-11-11 Thread Avi Yashar
Gmail has started to phase in POP3 access, and Google is assuring us
that there is no plan to charge for the service. It will take a few
weeks before everyone has it. But at this stage it seems to me that
Gmail is a great option for managing the tremendous amount of mail
from this forum. You get 1Gb of storage, a great search engine for
locating information, and you can easily receive the messages in TB if
you want to use TB, rather than Gmail, for sending and receiving
messages to tbbeta.

If you are using IMAP, you could still funnel your tbbeta
correspondence through Gmail by setting up Gmail to forward all
messages to your IMAP account.

If anyone is interested, I currently have a spare six invitations that
will be no problem to hand out.

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Re: Encryption Algorithm

2004-11-11 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Znark,

Friday, November 12, 2004, 0:28:57, you wrote:

What encryption algorithm is used in The Bat! in on the fly
encryption?

It is RC2 encryption algorithm with 128 bit key: 
http://www.rsasecurity.com/rsalabs/node.asp?id=2249


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