Re: Release of an Official Beta
Hello Thomas, > We are in "pre-beta". Ethan knew that. His first question was: "Will there come a point when the pre-beta testing will end...?" ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.4 Return (pre-beta) is now available
On Thursday, March 10, 2005, at 04:37 AM, 9Val wrote: > Sorry, my fault, I wanted to know if you see the message content > request in IMAP queue (from Connection Centre, not from logs). Ok. I just had an episode of the problem. The CC flickers as though the request was sent. However, I don't see the message content request appear and remain until the message body loads. -- -=[ Allie ]=- ... I hit the CTRL key but I'm still not in control! __ Running TB! v3.0.9.4 Return or ThunderBird v1 IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.4 Return (pre-beta) is now available
On Thursday, March 10, 2005, at 04:37 AM, 9Val wrote: > Sorry, my fault, I wanted to know if you see the message content > request in IMAP queue (from Connection Centre, not from logs). I'll be looking out for that. I just read some mail and didn't encounter the problem. -- -=[ Allie ]=- ... If you cannot convince them, confuse them. __ Running TB! v3.0.9.4 Return or ThunderBird v1.0 IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Problems with connection on running test
Hi 9Val, On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:57:50 +0200 UTC (3/10/2005, 9:57 AM -0600 UTC my time), 9Val wrote: 9> You have good server, not all servers allow that. LOL... I think pretty much most IMAP servers are that way, Binc and I think, Courier are on Unix/Linux (I use Binc as you know), and I am using MDaemon Pro in XP for IMAPS also.. I don't know about UW-IMAP as I have never used it. But it makes sense, any connection to the server is just another socket connection, and its only limitation is that of the OS as to number of total sockets. Regarding locking of a mailbox in IMAP, there can't be any. An example would be a public mailbox on an enterprise IMAP server which might have 100, 200, 500 or more simultaneous connections to it at any given time, so it can't be locked, as a POP3 mailbox would. I also think the type of mailbox is important also in the way it stores email on an IMAP server. Examples, in the mbox format style, all mail is stored on one spool, versus the Maildir format where each email is stored as individual email, not on one spool. Therefore, there is no mbox spool locking required when new mail arrives to be appended to the spool, or to be read by the user(s). Binc, Courier, and MDaemon work on Maildir type formats, each email separate, therefore making multiple accesses to the same email, in the same mailbox possible. -- Gary Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Test, ignore it (Re: IMAP: moving mails to server)
Test, very rare conditions, please ignore it -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: moving mails to server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, > Hmm, have no problem both for manual/filter moving (2.5Mb message). > Any log messages/new strings in except.log? No, nothing. As I said on german boards there are a lot of users with the same problem. Some don't have it. Perhaps problems with the usable bandwith and a timeout within TheBat! ? I just have 256kbit upstream, others with no problems use local servers or have faster upstreams. Michael - -- Die kleinen Alltagsleistungen setzen viel mehr Energie in die Welt als die seltenen heroischen Taten. PGP oder S/MIME-Verschlüsselung erwünscht! Fingerprint: 5E4A 25B3 0B24 4C5C 7668 7A66 C127 968D E59F D50D -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCMHavwSeWjeWf1Q0RAgbJAKD6IOBfZUOBVFOjvcRbcy7fJLdvKACdFfNM loXssq5/igtKvrptUkAf1MI= =T8NH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: moving mails to server
Hello Michael, MS> Both moving manual by drag'n'drop and moving by option to store copies MS> automatically on the server in the account-settings. Hmm, have no problem both for manual/filter moving (2.5Mb message). Any log messages/new strings in except.log? -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: moving mails to server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 9Val schrieb: > Do you mean it is done by outgoing filter? Have you tried manual > moving/coping to IMAP? Both moving manual by drag'n'drop and moving by option to store copies automatically on the server in the account-settings. Michael - -- Die kleinen Alltagsleistungen setzen viel mehr Energie in die Welt als die seltenen heroischen Taten. PGP oder S/MIME-Verschlüsselung erwünscht! Fingerprint: 5E4A 25B3 0B24 4C5C 7668 7A66 C127 968D E59F D50D -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCMHDwwSeWjeWf1Q0RAmpRAKDzFK8vfvtdcjiehx95i0HoauJD0wCg0IQj y7FCpCFkbTXtaGsAxwBswCg= =3kMp -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: moving mails to server (was: IMAP: Problems with connection on running test)
Hello Michael, MS> I selected to automatically move sent eMails to the Sent-dir on the Do you mean it is done by outgoing filter? Have you tried manual moving/coping to IMAP? -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Problems with connection on running test
Hello Gary, G> It is the same, the below is from using not only the same mailbox, but also G> reading the same email within that mailbox, using Outlook 2003 and Mulberry G> for the test. This is in my LAN Unix IMAPS server. You have good server, not all servers allow that. -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Release of an Official Beta
Hello Ethan, On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 06:36:35 -0500 GMT (10/03/2005, 18:36 +0700 GMT), Ethan J. Mings wrote: EJM> Question: Will there come a point when he pre-beta testing will EJM> end and the beta testing will start? Yes. Patience, my friend. EJM> I'm not sure if we are in alpha testing, late alpha (is there EJM> such a thing) or beta. We are in "pre-beta". I'll wait for the beta. -- Cheers, Thomas. Things You Would Never Know Without the Movies: It doesn't matter if you are heavily outnumbered in a fight involving martial arts - your enemies will wait patiently to attack you one by one by dancing around in a threatening manner until you have knocked them out. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
IMAP: moving mails to server (was: IMAP: Problems with connection on running test)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 9Val: And now to something slightly different: What about the issue, that TheBat! loses eMails larger than ~1MB when moving mails from local to a remote directory via IMAP? I selected to automatically move sent eMails to the Sent-dir on the server which works for small emails but not for eMails with 1MB or higher size. TheBat! opens the task to move, does something but after some time, the task disappears and the mail is still local - not on the server. TB! has this behavior since v2.xx and it is impossible to move bigger eMails. Afaik this is a well known issue (at least in german boards are a lot of users with the same problem) and it's still in the pre-beta release, so what about a fix at last? I have this problem with each of my imap-accounts on differents providers. Moving with Thunderbird, KMail etc. is working well. Michael - -- Die kleinen Alltagsleistungen setzen viel mehr Energie in die Welt als die seltenen heroischen Taten. PGP oder S/MIME-Verschlüsselung erwünscht! Fingerprint: 5E4A 25B3 0B24 4C5C 7668 7A66 C127 968D E59F D50D -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCMFwMwSeWjeWf1Q0RAj/0AKDvJ7sxyp7tJq5DcgcL4n+lqd4PawCfTHFU mEGP8WAdbnPNGxFISa7b/6c= =V7Mu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Problems with connection on running test
Hi 9Val, On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:38:23 +0200 UTC (3/10/2005, 3:38 AM -0600 UTC my time), 9Val wrote: 9> It is correct, but now try to select one mailbox from different 9> connections (or even clients). It is the same, the below is from using not only the same mailbox, but also reading the same email within that mailbox, using Outlook 2003 and Mulberry for the test. This is in my LAN Unix IMAPS server. tcp4 192.168.0.6.993192.168.0.5.2203 ESTABLISHED tcp4 192.168.0.6.993192.168.0.5.2202 ESTABLISHED tcp4 192.168.0.6.993192.168.0.5.2199 ESTABLISHED The same multiple connections are showed on a different IMAP server, MDaemon in XP, coming in from the WAN (Internet) on different connections, into the same mailbox using Mulberry and TheBat!. Only the listed established IP addresses are obviously different. -- Gary Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Release of an Official Beta
Het was op donderdag 10 maart 2005 om 13:34 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'Release of an Official Beta' : Hallo Liz, MDP>> You'll have to judge that for yourself from the nature of the bug MDP>> reports at each successive release level. L> I think that currently places the last available exe as "OMG it ran!" L> status :) Grinn... -- regards, Cees Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake! __ The Bat! 3.0.9.4 Return [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0510-0, 08-03-2005 Tested on: 10-3-2005 13:42:48 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Release of an Official Beta
Dear Liz, @10-Mar-2005, 12:34 Liz [L] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: MDP>> You'll have to judge that for yourself from the nature of the bug MDP>> reports at each successive release level. L> I think that currently places the last available exe as "OMG it ran!" L> status :) ROTFLOL!!! :grin: L> I love the insight of where its going, its just a shame its not quite L> usable yet.. Agreed. The biggest issue for me is the AVs and List index out of bounds errors in the folder view. It makes it unusable. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpwMRDUCKs3k.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Release of an Official Beta
Hi Marck, Thursday, March 10, 2005, 12:19:10 PM, you wrote: MDP> You'll have to judge that for yourself from the nature of the bug MDP> reports at each successive release level. I think that currently places the last available exe as "OMG it ran!" status :) There are deffinately a large number of issues with the last release, however, it was never claimed to be anything other than an exe called thebat with hopefully some functionality. I love the insight of where its going, its just a shame its not quite usable yet.. -- Best regards, Liz (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Website: http://www.xcalibur.co.uk Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Release of an Official Beta
Dear Jerry, @10-Mar-2005, 06:36 -0500 (10-Mar 11:36 UK time) Ethan J. Mings [EJM] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: EJM> Question: Will there come a point when he pre-beta testing will EJM> end and the beta testing will start? I'm not sure if we are in EJM> alpha testing, late alpha (is there such a thing) or beta. You'll have to judge that for yourself from the nature of the bug reports at each successive release level. I don't find the current pre-beta usable in a production environment. YMMV -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgp73GVrW44cl.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Release of an Official Beta
Question: Will there come a point when he pre-beta testing will end and the beta testing will start? I'm not sure if we are in alpha testing, late alpha (is there such a thing) or beta. Jerry -- Ethan J. Mings Principal, The Desk Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Problems with connection on running test
Hello Gary, G> From one of my UNIX servers, using another client, you can see many G> simultaneous connections, on just a few folders: It is correct, but now try to select one mailbox from different connections (or even clients). -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.4 Return (pre-beta) is now available
Hello Allie, >> Have you checked if there are correct requests to server? Or it simply >> doesn't try to download them? A> You're asking me hard questions here. :) I don't know how to make the A> difference between a correct and incorrect request. I don't know. Sorry, my fault, I wanted to know if you see the message content request in IMAP queue (from Connection Centre, not from logs). -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: AV's while emptying folder cache
Hello Marck, MDP> I get this often when folder list contents change while a folder view MDP> is open. Particularly in the Ticker VF. Is that any help? Yes, perhaps it happens in updating message list, some of notifications are handled not correctly -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
