Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Greg, On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 23:17:48 -0600 GMT (20/11/2005, 12:17 +0700 GMT), Greg Strong wrote: GS> I believe the 'Security Center' is added to the 'Control Box' with GS> SP2. I have not updated to SP2 for other reasons. So your computer may GS> work differently, than mine. :) Yes, I have SP2. But I don't this this feature was added only with SP2, but I may be wrong. Double-click on the desktop icon My Computer, then Control Panel (that's in the left pane, second from top and is called "Other places"; Control Panel is the last option). In the Control Panel you can access the Security Center when you click on that large icon. It's the last one of ten options here. When the Security Center opens, you have a pane on the left that's called "Resources". If that's not the case, please let me know what is different in your version. -- Cheers, Thomas. In der Sahara liegt der Sand so locker, das heute Berge sind, wo morgen Thaeler waren. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.14 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Vili, On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:07:06 -0500 GMT (20/11/2005, 04:07 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: V> It seems so far, that I need automated update... :( I guess you just need SP2. I don't use automated update (it caused problems with one of those "anti-malware packs") and haven't updated for two months or so. TB windows close fast, but I am unable to estimate fractions of seconds. Hat's off to Arjan, who can even estimate milliseconds . OS: XP Pro SP2 English. Hard: Intel P4 1.7GHz, 512MB. Soft: TB 3.62.14 -- Cheers, Thomas. What to not say to the nice policeman: I was trying to keep up with traffic. Yes, I know there is no other car around--that's how far ahead of me they are. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.14 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Greg, On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 14:08:47 -0600 GMT (20/11/2005, 03:08 +0700 GMT), Greg Strong wrote: GS> Updated Saturday, November 12, 2005. You can NOT update WinXP GS> Pro with IE unless automatic update switch is on, so I leave off until GS> I want to update. That's not true. If I update, I do it manually only. In the Security Center, check out the left pane, "Resources". click on "Check for the latest..." and it will take you there. MS will check on your computer which updates you have already installed and offer those you haven't. You can choose which ones you want to download, and also choose whether you want to be reminded of the otehrs later. -- Cheers, Thomas. Just because you're not paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.14 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Can't activate Voyager beta
Hi Clive >> What browser do you use? My default browser is IE > Opera, but I'd already tried setting IE to be the default browser. > It makes no difference one way or the other. I use Opera,too and really like it, but it processes javascript differently than IE or FF/Moz (can't remember the specifics right now). This is why many financial institutions on the web won't work properly with Opera. This says more about them than Opera I think, as Opera is very secure. So - you mau have to break down and use IE or FF. I think I used IE in this particular instance. -- Neal Laugman Using The Bat! v3.62.05 and Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.4 on Win2000 SP4 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Now, this is strange...
Hello Vili, on Sat, 19 Nov 2005 18:19:37 +0100 (2005-11-19 18:19:37 in .nl) in the message with reference you [] wrote (at least in part): V> Hello tbbeta, V> Check this: V> - close your account tree V> - focus on one of your account V> - select a message list tab that is not "All" V> - select "All" tab V> You can see your Inbox mails... :) I'm not sure what you're getting at. Is it about protected accounts? What was the selected folder listed on your "non-All" tab just before you returned to the "All" tab? Was it the same one TB showed after selecting the "All" tab (which is my experience)? ... anything else ... -- Kind regards, Peter Ouwehand - - - Using A program which insists to be : The Bat! V3.62.13 (Beta) (Home) An anti-spam filter which insists to be : Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.3 An OS which insists to be : Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Multiple POP3, one gmail.com, one fastmail.fm IMAP Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Meaningful subjects (was: Re: Now, this is strange...)
Hello Marek, > Vili, please, use meaningful subjects... Thanks! It is the case of killing the murderer :)) You are right, I used to enforce meaningful subjects, too :)) -- Vili The Bat 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 1 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB Voyager and its interface
Hello Claude, > And if I asked you if the interface has changed, it's also because, > in the 3.60x versions I had no problem setting up tb browsing the > various configuration dialogs, but in this version I noticed that > Jaws, my screen reader does not recognize the usual objects as > checkboxes, radio buttons and so on ... I tried to play around with > various themes and windows accessibility options but nothing > changed, no reading improvements ... > So, could someone tell me if there is something to set up inparticular > in order to facilitate TB working ... with ... screen readers ? I read a little about JAWS: from v6.1 it supports unicode. -- Vili The Bat 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 1 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Few question about TB Voyager
Hello Claude, > So I have few questions about TBV. > Currently we activate the product with a temporary key which is only > valid for 30 days, what will we have to do when this period will > expire ? Buy. :) -- Vili The Bat 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 1 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Peter, Saturday, November 19, 2005, 6:09:53 PM, you wrote: PF> I have noticed the the screen redraws (I.e. it is drawn twice) when you PF> you first open TB! I've reported this problem quite a while ago. There is something very strange on the graphics side. I have + Tested two different graphics cards (Radeon and nVidia) + Doubled the memory (from 512 to 1Gig) + Made sure by XP Professional SP2 were up to date. + Change graphics options (Windows Advanced Features) + Tested it on three different machines (Laptop, PII and and a PIII) + Cleaned out the registry + deleted the tbuser file numerous times + Done a new install twice. Still the graphics is a real problem. I think there is something in the underlying code. However, I am only a user and I can only report my problems from the perspective of using the program in the field. I suspect the programers are aware of this problem. Jerry -- Ethan J. Mings Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Vili, On 19-11-2005 19:55, you [V] wrote in : V> 1. How many second is from the push of the Esc until you get back V> your original main screen? Estimate. 0.8 sec. Which to me is a bit too slow. I would expect around 0.3-0.5 sec. V> 2. What is you op.system (if XP, Prof or Home?, specify that English, V> Russian, etc.)? English (see sig). V> 3. What is your service pack? See sig. V> 4. When did you update your Windows last time? Do you have automatic V> update switched on? Automatically. V> 5. What kind of CPU you have (speed, too), how much RAM you have. Athlon XP 2200+, 1 GB. V> 6. What is your TB! version (I am kind of interested in the .14, last V> version)? See sig. I have noticed the the screen redraws (I.e. it is drawn twice) when you you first open TB! -- Best regards Peter Fjelsten 3.62.12 Pro MyGate, AVG 4 POP3, 7 IMAP (UWIMAP 2002e) & 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Meaningful subjects (was: Re: Now, this is strange...)
Hello all, Saturday, November 19, 2005, Vili wrote: > Hello tbbeta, Vili, please, use meaningful subjects... Thanks! -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.62.14 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB Voyager and its interface
Hello Claude, Did you ever use The Bat! v 3.62? We've changed almost all graphics controls to unicode. This might cause problems with screen readers. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Few question about TB Voyager
Hi, Sorry to post them here but I'm only subscribed to this list and have left tb development story since few months, so ... So I have few questions about TBV. Currently we activate the product with a temporary key which is only valid for 30 days, what will we have to do when this period will expire ? Do we know the approximate price of the TBV version and when it will be approximately released ? -- Greetings, Claude Renaud Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Vili & everyone else, on 19-Nov-2005 at 19:55 you (Vili) wrote: > 1. How many second is from the push of the Esc until you get back your > original main screen? Estimate. Below 1 second. Its visible though. > 2. What is you op.system (if XP, Prof or Home?, specify that English, > Russian, etc.)? XP Pro English. > 3. What is your service pack? SP2 > 4. When did you update your Windows last time? Today, when I found out that after a repair installation I was missing all the security updates. Downloaded 31 of them, sheesh... > Do you have automatic update switched on? Yes, of course. > 5. What kind of CPU you have (speed, too), how much RAM you have. AMD Athlon XP 3000+, normally 1024MB RAM but due to some problems only 512MB at the moment. :( > 6. What is your TB! version (I am kind of interested in the .14, last > version)? 3.62.14 as you can see from my X-Mailer header. :) > I have a XP Home, with SP1 Is there any particular reason why you're still using SP1? > and 512 MB RAM, it takes 3-4 sec to close a mail... It is not right. As > other people have the same problem, with this survey I would like to find > out, if my opsys have some old component that redraws that screen this > slow, or not... Check the mainboard chipset and graphics card drivers first, I'd say. When I repaired my Windows XP installation last week, I was missing the VIA chipset AGP busmaster driver and thus could not install the latest ATI drivers for my gfx card. Screen redraws were painfully slow. After installing the chipset driver again I updated the gfx card driver and everything was running fast & smooth again. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Egotist: a person more interested in himself than in me. -- Ambrose Bierce Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
A little bug ...
Hi, When I choose account/properties/tempplates/edit quick templates/new for creating a new one, I receive the following error message "Ancestor for 'TBXPopupMenu1' not found." What does it mean ? -- Greetings, Claude Renaud Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
TB Voyager and its interface
Hi, I have been working with TB since few years now. I switched temporarily from tb to outlook tis last months waiting for the arrival of the portable version of TB. Now is here so I began to test it. And I would like to know if a sighted person could tell me if the interface has changed since the 3.60 version of tb, because in this version, my screen reader had no problem to follow the focus each time I hit the tab key. But in this version it is very difficult to navigate in various dialog boxes such as the preferences or properties one I often obliged to use my virtual cursor and click with the mouse on objects because hitting the tab key I can not reach them as before. And if I asked you if the interface has changed, it's also because, in the 3.60x versions I had no problem setting up tb browsing the various configuration dialogs, but in this version I noticed that Jaws, my screen reader does not recognize the usual objects as checkboxes, radio buttons and so on ... I tried to play around with various themes and windows accessibility options but nothing changed, no reading improvements ... So, could someone tell me if there is something to set up inparticular in order to facilitate TB working ... with ... screen readers ? -- Greetings, Claude Renaud Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Arjan, >> 6. What is your TB! version (I am kind of interested in the .14, last >> version)? > 2.12.03 Cheater :) With that version I have fast closing too :))) Thanks! It seems so far, that I need automated update... :( -- Vili Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Stuart, V>> 3. What is your service pack? > SP2 I start to suspect that it will be the cause... I have an SP2, too, TB! is fast on that, too. -- Vili Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 13:55:39 -0500, Vili asked: > So, please answer this questions: > 1. How many second is from the push of the Esc until you get back your > original main screen? Estimate. 0.023 seconds. > 2. What is you op.system (if XP, Prof or Home?, specify that English, > Russian, etc.)? XP Pro NL > 3. What is your service pack? SP2 > 4. When did you update your Windows last time? Do you have automatic > update switched on? Couple of weeks ago (upgraded to sp2). No > 5. What kind of CPU you have (speed, too), how much RAM you have. P3 (933MHz) 384 MB RAM. > 6. What is your TB! version (I am kind of interested in the .14, last > version)? 2.12.03 Arjan -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello Vili, A reminder of what Vili typed on: Saturday, November 19, 2005 at 13:55:39 GMT -0500 V> 1. How many second is from the push of the Esc until you get back your V> original main screen? Estimate. < 1 second V> 2. What is you op.system (if XP, Prof or Home?, specify that English, V> Russian, etc.)? XP Home, English V> 3. What is your service pack? SP2 V> 4. When did you update your Windows last time? Do you have automatic V> update switched on? Recent, but now automatic. V> 5. What kind of CPU you have (speed, too), how much RAM you have. AMD Athalon XP 2500+ 1.83 Ghz 512MB RAM V> 6. What is your TB! version (I am kind of interested in the .14, last V> version)? Using The Bat! v3.62.14 -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.62.14 On Windows XP 5.1 Build #2600 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Slow redraw of main screen, try to find the cause
Hello all, So, you could see this thread about slow closing of TB! and slow reappearance of the message list (or main screen) if you open and close a mail in full window. So, please, open a mail in full window (Enter) and close the mail (Esc). So, please answer this questions: 1. How many second is from the push of the Esc until you get back your original main screen? Estimate. 2. What is you op.system (if XP, Prof or Home?, specify that English, Russian, etc.)? 3. What is your service pack? 4. When did you update your Windows last time? Do you have automatic update switched on? 5. What kind of CPU you have (speed, too), how much RAM you have. 6. What is your TB! version (I am kind of interested in the .14, last version)? I have a XP Home, with SP1, and 512 MB RAM, it takes 3-4 sec to close a mail... It is not right. As other people have the same problem, with this survey I would like to find out, if my opsys have some old component that redraws that screen this slow, or not... -- Vili Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Now, this is strange...
Hello Roelof, V>> You can see your Inbox mails... :) > Nope. > Not confirmed, 1 account with otfe Ok. Before you close the account, select a folder that contains mail, and follow the procedures from the beginning. Please. -- Vili Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Now, this is strange...
Hallo Vili, On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 18:19:37 +0100GMT (19-11-2005, 18:19 +0100, where I live), you wrote: V> - close your account tree Done V> - focus on one of your account I've only got one V> - select a message list tab that is not "All" Done (had to enable them first) V> - select "All" tab Done V> You can see your Inbox mails... :) Nope. Not confirmed, 1 account with otfe -- Groetjes, Roelof As long as I can remember, I've had amnesia. The Bat! 3.62.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpn1Lvru4b3L.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Now, this is strange...
Recently, Peter Hampf squawked: > confirmed. To be more precise: You can see the messages of the last > active (used) account. OK ... I see what to do. What happens, here , is that no matter which account and sub-folder I select, when switching from *unread* Tab to *All* tab, the topmost account becomes active. Everytime. However, no folder messages or anything else is shown. Just that the blue *focus* colour jumps to the top of the Accounts pane. No folder or messages show up. -- Robert D. _ The Bat! Version: 3.62.14 Windows ME FireFox Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Now, this is strange...
Hello Vili & everyone else, on 19-Nov-2005 at 18:19 you (Vili) wrote: > You can see your Inbox mails... :) I don't see the inbox, but the content of the folder I was in before closing the account tree. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) There is no ox so dumb as the orthodox. -- George Francis Gillette Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Now, this is strange...
Recently, Vili squawked: > Check this: > - close your account tree OK, I go to upper left pane and close "Lists" so that all folders no longer visible. Just a + mark left-side of "Lists" account > - focus on one of your account I have a few, so I select a different one this time > - select a message list tab that is not "All" OK, I select "unread" tab and see nothing because I am in account with no mails currently > - select "All" tab I do, and still don't see anything because there is nothing, other than empty Inbox/Outbox folders, to see. > You can see your Inbox mails... :) Hummm, must be the moon cycle ? I can't make it show me the Inbox on my system anyway. -- Robert D. _ The Bat! Version: 3.62.14 Windows ME FireFox Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Now, this is strange...
Hello tbbeta, Check this: - close your account tree - focus on one of your account - select a message list tab that is not "All" - select "All" tab You can see your Inbox mails... :) -- Vili The Bat 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 1 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: BUG: Backup 2., v3.62.14
Hello Peter, V>> This way it is easy to lose mails... V>> To reproduce: just set access password to any of your account, dont V>> extend it (dont open it), Tools, Backup, see the list of accounts: V>> the protected account is not in the list. > Looks like 'normal' behaviour to me (and I have noticed such myself > since, oh, dunno how long). > As you noticed yourself, those accounts are not listed, therefor not > available for backup. You also, very probably, noticed you need to > select which accounts to backup, to start with. Simply clicking on > 'Select All' will exclude all 'non-opened' password protected > accounts, as they are not listed. (all of this assuming the deeper > logic of TB functions according to what it offers one). I totally understand you, Peter. What I tried to say: I have like 3 password protected account. I made a backup, restored, and -of course- I did not get back my PW protected accounts. (I am just testing, so I did not lose mails :) So, I know, it is "normal" behaviour, BUT: at least a warning message should be there... -- Vili The Bat 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 1 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: What is the role of all those directories that are getting created .. in the Voyager ..??
Hallo Narayana, On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 11:31:46 +0530GMT (19-11-2005, 7:01 +0100, where I live), you wrote: N> Still I do not get another issue right. I have not encrypted N> anything. I have not given any passwords. Even the Master Password is N> empty. So Why should my files be in *.EBB & *.EBI format, as you were N> saying. Voyager, due to its mobile nature, encrypts everything, it could be painful or embarrassing when you lose your USB stick and somebody reads your mail. (That's why I strongly suggest you install Voyager again with a password.) Due to this encryption scheme the directories matching your mail folders have encrypted names. -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, Vedi, Vomitus. (I came, I saw, it made me sick) The Bat! 3.62.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpfw1TPtzNQX.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: What is the role of all those directories that are getting created .. in the Voyager ..??
Hello Roelof, Sorry for my previous e-mail on this issue. I figured out the problem. I had imported a folder from my regular TB installation which had many directories inside it. I just deleted all of them to make sure I was right. I understood the problem. Still I do not get another issue right. I have not encrypted anything. I have not given any passwords. Even the Master Password is empty. So Why should my files be in *.EBB & *.EBI format, as you were saying. Also , There are no folders with names "Inbox" etc., inside those account folders. -- Best regards, Narayanamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Friday, November 18, 2005, 11:34:35 PM, you wrote: RO> Hallo Narayana, RO> On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 22:44:08 +0530GMT (18-11-2005, 18:14 +0100, where RO> I live), you wrote: N>> Can someone tell me as to what is the role of all those directories N>> getting created with *.EBB & *.EBI files inside them. I have only 4 N>> e-mail id's configured. N>> Yet I seem to have a looot of directories with all these files with N>> funny names as directories. RO> Not really a beta issue. RO> But they're your folders. You mention four id's, so I guess you mean RO> you've got four accounts configured. Per default every account has at RO> least six folders (inbox, inbox known, outbox, sent mail, trash and RO> junk) so four accounts gives you 24 folders, each with their own RO> directory with a messages.ebb/.ebi pair (.tbb and .tbi for a non RO> encrypted message base) RO> Part of TB's encryption system is that they've got odd names, where RO> a plain message base has names corresponding with the actual name as RO> shown by TB. Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Can't activate Voyager beta
Hello Roelof, Saturday, November 19, 2005, 1:12:33 PM, you wrote: > What browser do you use? My default browser is IE Opera, but I'd already tried setting IE to be the default browser. It makes no difference one way or the other. -- Regards, Clive Taylor TheBat!:3.62.14 Windows XP: Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Can't activate Voyager beta
Hallo Clive, On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 08:38:15 +GMT (19-11-2005, 9:38 +0100, where I live), you wrote: >> Works for everybody. CT> Except for me apparently, Roelof. If I do as you suggest, I get the CT> error message I posted as 'voyager1' in my previous message. What browser do you use? My default browser is IE and that does the trick. Haven't heard about other browsers not performing properly. -- Groetjes, Roelof FIDO: Fading Into Discreet Obsolescence The Bat! 3.62.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpFrhZhQ4VRm.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! voyager ...
Hello Claude Renaud & everyone else, on 18-Nov-2005 at 22:51 you (Claude Renaud) wrote: >> Its all in the conversation on the list starting with >> mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > For the moment, as I do not use TB yet, could you give me the exact > message please ? Its not a single message, the message with the above ID is the announcement from Ritlabs. Following it is a number of replies, questions and answers, that exactly cover what you need to know. :-) If you don't have the message, you can go to the public mail archive and start reading the whole conversation there: http://www.mail-archive.com/tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com/msg75295.html -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) I tell you that I can trace my ancestry back to a protoplasmic primordial atomic globule. -- Gilbert & Sullivan Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Can't activate Voyager beta
> Works for everybody. Except for me apparently, Roelof. If I do as you suggest, I get the error message I posted as 'voyager1' in my previous message. If I enter my current reg code for TB, i get the error message I posted as 'voyager2'. -- Regards, Clive Taylor TheBat!:3.62.14 Windows XP: Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Can't activate Voyager beta
Hallo Clive, On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 07:27:37 +GMT (19-11-2005, 8:27 +0100, where I live), you wrote: CT> I posted a message explaining that I couldn't activate the Voyager CT> beta because it wouldn't accept my Bat reg data or connect to Ritlabs CT> for an activation token. Use 7 as order number, press 'fetch key' and insert the activation code the website returns. Works for everybody. -- Groetjes, Roelof "deja moo," the feeling that you've heard this bull before. The Bat! 3.62.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpH2rJoKtSgu.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: What is the role of all those directories that are getting created .. in the Voyager ..??
Hallo Narayana, On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 08:58:28 +0530GMT (19-11-2005, 4:28 +0100, where I live), you wrote: N> Actually I have at least 77 folders apart from the folders that N> represent my accounts. Also none of these folders have inside them any Are you using that many common folders, virtual folders, etc? -- Groetjes, Roelof It is meaningless to speak of domesticating a child. The Bat! 3.62.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpqjeO335pI2.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
