Re: RSS option
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Sunday morning, Hans wrote something like this: It would be nice to have a RSS option in The Bat!. Maybe an idea for the next version? We have plugins. rss2pop http://ivan.bolhovitinov.googlepages.com/rss2pop rss2pop3 http://www.pkierski.net/rss2pop3.shtml rss2mail http://thebat.pl/download/index.php?itemid=325 -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RSS option
We have plugins. rss2pop http://ivan.bolhovitinov.googlepages.com/rss2pop any idea how to change character encoding? rss2pop3 http://www.pkierski.net/rss2pop3.shtml is crashing TB when the connection is too slow. rss2mail http://thebat.pl/download/index.php?itemid=325 completely unusable. All of that plugins have lack of user-friendly interface - especially adding new RSS :( -- Pozdrowienia, Daniel mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Nietoperek 3.98.3 pracujący w Windows XP build 2600 + () ICQ: 49156588 -- Oficjalne konto pocztowe europejskich internautow! http://link.interia.pl/f19e8 Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: RSS option
Sebastian, It would be nice to have a RSS option in The Bat!. Maybe an idea for the next version? We have plugins. Yes you do. rss2pop http://ivan.bolhovitinov.googlepages.com/rss2pop rss2pop3 http://www.pkierski.net/rss2pop3.shtml rss2mail http://thebat.pl/download/index.php?itemid=325 For people who speak Russian or Polish. On your website, I see antispam and antivirus. Would it be possible to put the available TB plugins in one place and organize some translating? -- Gleason Using 3.98.3 on Windows XP, 5.1, Build 2600. IMAP email provider is Fastmail, which uses Cyrus server software. Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Version number nonsense (Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue)
Hello Thomas, V Come on guys, a little sense of humor... All is fine. I understood your intentions correctly from the beginning, only my posting came over too dry. ;-) Than everything is fine :) -- Vili Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Using external HTML editor with TB (was Re[2]: HTML Editor and Windows Editor in The Bat! 3.98.03)
Hello Thomas, I really dont want to intersect this thread, but I wrote an email with the subject of How to create an HTML mail with QT (was: Re[2]: amount of email addresses) on Feb21. Text of that mail: Create the an HTML*, save as message.html, attach it to an email with the pictures and send. (the pictures must be referenced as they would be in the same directory as the HTML, so with only their name). That will appear as an HTML mail at the recipient. And the best part: you can create a QT for it :))) *with your external editor Inconveniences: - open and use external HTML editor - you have to use the MicroEd (at least I did not try with the Windows Editor) - attach the files to a mail Other that that, you can use your favorite external editor with TB to create new HTML mails. -- Vili Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: HTML Editor and Windows Editor in The Bat! 3.98.03
Hello vitalie, On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 06:05:09 +0200 GMT (05/03/2007, 11:05 +0700 GMT), vitalie vrabie wrote: vv so, to resume: vv you agree that RSS and News should be implemented as plugins, to please vv those who want them be one-click-away. Yes. vv and, at the same time, you *disagree* that content handling be vv implemented the same architectural way. Maybe I don't understand you or you don't understand me. I can handle the content of my usenet postings very well from within TB. MyGate is just a gateway to NNTP servers, which many believe is not a protocol an email client needs to support. But that wouldn't be a big problem to implement. However, when you are very active in the usenet, you want other features. I mentioned scoring, they will be other features I don't know about. All this architecture can be handled better by a dedicated newsclient. Integrating it into an email client would be wrong IMHO. There is still a lot to be done in TB! as an email client (just look at the bugtracker for bugs and wishes), and it is better if the developers focus on that. Also, I don't need a full-fledged newsclient, so it would be an unnessary overhead for me. As for the HTML editor, a hook to the one existing already on any Windows plattform should be easier than reinventing the wheel, I would think. Creating an HTML mail with an external editor and then attaching it to a blank email will probably work, but it is a workaround with too many steps: o Copy the mail body into the editor o Manipulate it so that quoting levels exist (this is a reply) o Write the replies to the paragraphs o Hit Reply on the incoming message and delete the body o Attach the HTML file Not practicable on a day-to-day basis. If I'm not mistaken, such a message, when received with TB!, will show a blank body and an HTML attachment, and therefore nothing in the preview pane. That would be because the content-type doesn't say HTML, as it is a plaintext message with an attachment. I didn't try this though, but I need the body of the message to be displayed in the preview pane. vv again. do we discuss an *email* client or what? Yes. And we are discussing how replies to HTML emails in HTML format can be made to look as desired, and that is in my case the way many email clients make it look. I'm referring to sensible formatting (fonts, colours, bullet points) which need to remain unalterated. I'm not referring to sounds and flash animations, or other undesired features which are possible with HTML mails. -- Cheers, Thomas. Ich bin ferner mit meinen Nerven am Ende und habe mit einer schweren Kastritis zu tun. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.95.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Using external HTML editor with TB (was Re[2]: HTML Editor and Windows Editor in The Bat! 3.98.03)
Hello Vili, On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:58:56 -0500 GMT (05/03/2007, 21:58 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: V I really dont want to intersect this thread, but I wrote an email with V the subject of How to create an HTML mail with QT (was: Re[2]: amount V of email addresses) on Feb21. I saw that. I integrated my reply into the message to Vitali half a minute ago. -- Cheers, Thomas. Ohnosecond: That minuscule fraction of time in which you realize you've just made a big mistake. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.95.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.98.4
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-98-4.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_3-98-4.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_3-98-4.msi To allow The Bat! to support default programs associations under Windows Vista, the MSI have to set some values to the registry. The MSI works with Administrative rights, so Vista allows it to modify the registry. When thebat.exe is running, it runs with user rights and is unable to modify registry. That's why it is important to install The Bat! via MSI to get the Default Programs work under Vista. [+] The Bat! now supports default programs associations under Windows Vista. Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.98.4
Hello Maxim, http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-98-4.msi Installed and running fine. But I don't use Vista. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.98.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
IMAP - queue freezing
Hello tbbeta, As I reported before I have been having queue freezing problems with IMAP. I have now reported it to bugtraq. Please add confirmations at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6274. -- Best regards, Stuart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.98.4
Hello all, Monday, March 5, 2007, Maxim Masiutin wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-98-4.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_3-98-4.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_3-98-4.msi installed OK and running without problems, sending is OK too. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.98.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.0.0.2 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.98.4
Het was maandag 5 maart 2007 om 18:03 uur dat jij iets schreef over '3.98.4' : Hallo Maxim, MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-98-4.msi MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_3-98-4.msi MM [+] The Bat! now supports default programs associations under Windows Vista. working very smoothly under Windows Media Center. Fires up fast. Ever since this weekend I'm running both windows and all major programs on a RAID 0 system, which is something I should have done a long time ago. -- Toodle Oo, Cees :snowrub: Kindness in words creates confidence. Kindness in thinking creates profoundness. Kindness in giving creates love. - Lao-Tzu __ The Bat! 3.98.4 [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: HTML Editor and Windows Editor in The Bat! 3.98.03
Hello Thomas, If I'm not mistaken, such a message, when received with TB!, will show a blank body and an HTML attachment, and therefore nothing in the Just try it. Too much philosophy about something you did not try :) -- Vili Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.98.4
Hello Maxim, Monday, March 5, 2007, 12:03:15 PM, you wrote: MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-98-4.msi Installed fine. Working fine, so far. -- Best regards, Richardmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using The Bat! v3.98.4 on Windows XP5 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.98.4
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007, at 19:03:15 [GMT +0200] (which was 18:03 where I live) Maxim Masiutin wrote: MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-98-4.msi MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_3-98-4.msi MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_3-98-4.msi MM To allow The Bat! to support default programs associations under MM Windows Vista, the MSI have to set some values to the registry. The MM MSI works with Administrative rights, so Vista allows it to modify MM the registry. When thebat.exe is running, it runs with user rights MM and is unable to modify registry. That's why it is important to MM install The Bat! via MSI to get the Default Programs work under Vista. MM [+] The Bat! now supports default programs associations under Windows Vista. MM MM Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: MM http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html MM IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - MM http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/ Up and running, so far so good. However no Vista overhere (yet) ;-) -- Henk __ The Bat! E-Mail System version 3.98.4 Pro on Windows XP SP2/OTFE enabled AntispamSniper for the Bat! 1.8.0.8. Forté Agent version 4.2/32.1118 pgpH3pQSF02ca.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.98.4
Hi Maxim, up and running with OTFE and Vista. Default program also worked. :-) -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.98.4 powered by Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: HTML Editor and Windows Editor in The Bat! 3.98.03
Hello Alexander, That does not really exist in most email clients, or its not very usable. :-) TB puts a fat and ugly blue brickwall on the left. Outlook Thunderbird use a small blue thin line. Should not TB! use two horizontal lines before and after the quoted part? This way, it could be easily edited if needed. It is not a standard, so anything is fair game :) -- Vili Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.98.4
Warsaw/PL, Monday, March 5, 2007 Hello Maxim, On Mon, 5 Mar 2007, at 19:03:15 (which was 18:03 where I live) in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: [+] The Bat! now supports default programs associations under Windows Vista. I've tested it with Vista Business PL installed on VMware machine. Works just fine, both mailto: links and send to in windows explorer. You can say that Simple MAPI is no longer needed (MAPI.dll can't be overwritten) . Maybe you should grey it out under Vista? However, I was upgrading from 3.98.1 and the restart-manager thingy doesn't seem to work at all (I've got to close editor and TB! to install) -- Michal Kosinski TB! 3.98.4 (EF79B4F8) | Windows XP 5.1.2600 Dodatek Service Pack 2 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.98.4
·---·-Date---· | QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [1] | 2007-03-05 | ·---·· [Reply to: »Maxim Masiutin« · 2007-03-05 · 18:03 h (CET)] Hello, Maxim! http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-98-4.msi Up and running! :-) Cheers! VA -- [1] Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 3.98.4 [Pro] on Windows XP Service Pack 2. »A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.« - Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »Mostly Harmless« Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: HTML Editor and Windows Editor in The Bat! 3.98.03
Alexander S. Kunz wrote: yes, there's a whole lot of potential documentflow-related applications that may perfectly fit onto email-based transport, that go far beyond the imagination of any single individual. Outlook 2007, when installed as a part of the 2007 Office Suite, shows .pps and .doc(x) and .xls(x) as preview in Outlook simply when you click on it. The best thing Adobe could do would be to release a PDF viewer plugin immediately. theres a browser plugin already. and the specifications are quite open... That said, what TB may need in the future would be viewer plug-ins that allow the recipient to show whatever viewable format directly in the message/preview pane (much like the imageviewer for image attachments as it is today). e-e-exactly. Which leads to the need for a unified filetype description, much like AmigaOS 15 years old datatypes that would, given that the matching datatype is installed, allow any application to handle the file. Anything remotely like that in Windows or Linux? mime types. -- Signed, Vitalie. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.98.4
·---·-Date---· | QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [1] | 2007-03-05 | ·---·· [Reply to: »Volker Ahrendt« · 2007-03-05 · 21:53 h (CET)] http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-98-4.msi Up and running! :-) And German translation (Auto backup) is updated, too! :-) Cheers! VA -- [1] Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 3.98.4 [Pro] on Windows XP Service Pack 2. »A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.« - Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »Mostly Harmless« Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.98.4
Hello Maxim, Monday, March 5, 2007, 12:03:15 PM, you wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-98-4.msi Installed and running on my Windows Vista Ultimate machine ok. I did not uninstall the previous version and now have two The Bat! icons/shortcuts on my Start menu. However, I only have one The Bat listing under the Programs and Features window of Control Panel. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.98.4
Hello Maxim, Monday, March 5, 2007, 7:03:15 PM, among other things, you wrote: MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-98-4.msi MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_3-98-4.msi MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_3-98-4.msi MM To allow The Bat! to support default programs associations under MM Windows Vista, the MSI have to set some values to the registry. The MSI MM works with Administrative rights, so Vista allows it to modify the MM registry. When thebat.exe is running, it runs with user rights and is MM unable to modify registry. That's why it is important to install The MM Bat! via MSI to get the Default Programs work under Vista. MM [+] The Bat! now supports default programs associations under Windows Vista. Home version up and running. All OK so far. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-southafrica: The Bat! v3.98.4 :beta: with AntispamSniper 1.8.0.8 , on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
