Re: [SOT] Question about 'Monitor Issue' in BT reports

2007-08-26 Thread MAU
Hello vitalie,

 Thank you Marek, I wasn't aware of that. I thought that selecting
 'Monitor Issue' was always needed, even if  I was reporter or I had
 added a note.
   
 depends on your profile settings.

You are right. I completely forgot about 'My Account' and 'Preferences'.

I'm getting old :-(

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Re[2]: Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse) REQUEST FOR MODERATION

2007-08-26 Thread Goncalo Farias

In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

 His  totally  unfounded  accusations against
 Ritlabs and CIFNet are

RG Unfounded - he posted the message with the headers

I  believe  you  should be responding to Paul Van Noord. Nevertheless,
posting the headers demonstrates nothing, I believe.

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Re: Addressing issue

2007-08-26 Thread MAU
Hello Rick,

 Up through v.18 (perhaps 19 too) I could start typing and several
 address for a person, one a secondary, would pop up for selection

 This no longer happens. When I start typing and a secondary address
 that has available this way since v3.74 is no longer available, eve if
 I choose from the list and have it add secondary addresses (which I
 never had to do before, it was always available from the drop down.)

 I tried it after copying it out of the address book and it is still
 not available

 Confirm anyone?

No, I cannot confirm this. I have just tried with a secondary address
and it will be displayed as a choice for autocomplete if:

  - The address has previously been used, and is therefore in the
  'history'. (I keep same history for all fields).
  
  - The selected 'Display list of suggestions from' option includes
  'history'. (A secondary address will not be displayed if suggestions
  from AB only)

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Re[6]: Mod: Personal Attack (was: Mailing List Abuse)

2007-08-26 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

 Come on! The title itself is meant to be provocative!

 Mailing  List  Abuse  -  where  is  the so called abuse? It was a
 PRIVATE EMAIL and nothing to do with the list.

I I  used  the word 'abuse' because the person abused the purposes of
I the  list  by  (1) not posting to the list, which is fine of course
I (2) used the list to obtain my email address, thereby sending me an
I email which had nothing to do with _the_list_ but instead served to
I put  me  on guard as if to say ...I know who you are etc. If he
I didn't  have  access  to  the  list, he won't have had access to my
I email  address  and  thus  would not have sent me such an email. He
I _knew_  that  his actions were suspect and reprehensible thats why,
I like  a  cowardly  rat  hiding  under a rock, he tried to cover his
I tracks. Thats the difference between men and boys.

I've  been  using  this  list  for  almost  3 years and never got such
emails. You must have done something VERY wrong.


I Here, let me help you a bit...

I don't remember asking you for help. So don't lecture me, please!


I I'm  not  sure  if  English  is your sixth language or not, but its
I clear  to  me  from  your  posts that its either (a) not your first
I language (b)

Well,  it's not my only language as you guessed. Probably that's why I
don't see any threat on the email you've receive.


Paranoia must be a requisite to be a celebrity.


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Re: Addressing issue

2007-08-26 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Rick,

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 21:26:43 -0400GMT (26-8-2007, 3:26 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

RG Up through v.18 (perhaps 19 too) I could start typing and several
RG address for a person, one a secondary, would pop up for selection

Can't remember ever having secondary addresses available.

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Re[2]: MAPI error 2

2007-08-26 Thread Goncalo Farias
Is this MAPI problem going to be fixed on the next beta?

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Re[3]: MAPI error 2

2007-08-26 Thread Ethan J. Mings
Hello Goncalo,

Sunday, August 26, 2007, 5:09:34 AM, you wrote:

 Is this MAPI problem going to be fixed on the next beta?

Excellent question.  I continue to find applications where the mapi
problem creates problems. A short list of problems impacted include:

MSWord Office 2007 Suite
Mindjet
Adobe Professional
Dreamweaver


Jerry

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Re[4]: MAPI error 2

2007-08-26 Thread Goncalo Farias

In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :


EJM Hello Goncalo,

EJM Sunday, August 26, 2007, 5:09:34 AM, you wrote:

 Is this MAPI problem going to be fixed on the next beta?

EJM Excellent question.  I continue to find applications where the mapi
EJM problem creates problems. A short list of problems impacted include:

EJM MSWord Office 2007 Suite
EJM Mindjet
EJM Adobe Professional
EJM Dreamweaver

You may add:

FeedDemon

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Issues with threaded view

2007-08-26 Thread Indie_Dev

1. I discovered that in threaded view mode, if you select the folder
(left pane), then set it to No View Mode, the screen is the
refreshed unless you first select another view tab (e.g. Unread) and
then back to the previous (e.g. All). In fact, I have observed that
sometimes, changing from threaded view mode does not work on a per
folder basis. Just now it happened to me and I have to do it from the
View/Global View Mode option.

However, going from any view (e.g. No View Mode) to threaded view
updates the screen immediately.

Anyone else getting this?

2. I also just had a crash in views. I was trying to get the 'created'
and 'date created' views to work right. I kept getting my messages
from 2001, threaded in a Last Year thread so I figured I'd set those
modes to No View Mode

While in the dialog, I got a recursive crash. For the laymen in the
list, it means a crash you can't get out of without using something
like Process Monitor to terminate the program.

So, I did just that. When I restarted TB!, my views dialog had huge
gaps in it. The pic is too large for this post, so I'll do a follow-up
next.

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Re: Issues with threaded view

2007-08-26 Thread Indie_Dev
Sunday, August 26, 2007, 9:39:43 AM, you wrote:

*snip*

 While in the dialog, I got a recursive crash. For the laymen in the
 list, it means a crash you can't get out of without using something
 like Process Monitor to terminate the program.

 So, I did just that. When I restarted TB!, my views dialog had huge
 gaps in it. The pic is too large for this post, so I'll do a follow-up
 next.

Attached is what my views dialog looks like. Notice the gaps? Is that
normal?

I also un-installed TB!, cleaned out the registry* and re-installed
but the views dialog remains the same. I'm quite certain thats not
what the default installation looks like. Where are these settings
stored. They're obviously not in the registry and I couldn't find the
file (in the mailbox folder) that would handle it. I'd like to reset
it to the defaults.

* Why does the un-installer not remove the HKCU\Software\RIT entries
during an un-install?

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Re: Issues with threaded view

2007-08-26 Thread Indie_Dev
Sunday, August 26, 2007, 9:39:43 AM, you wrote:

*snip*

 So, I did just that. When I restarted TB!, my views dialog had huge
 gaps in it. The pic is too large for this post, so I'll do a follow-up
 next.

Attached is what my views dialog looks like. Notice the gaps? Is that
normal?

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Re[2]: Issues with threaded view

2007-08-26 Thread Indie_Dev
Sunday, August 26, 2007, 9:49:44 AM, you wrote:

I also un-installed TB!, cleaned out the registry* and re-installed
but the views dialog remains the same. I'm quite certain thats not
what the default installation looks like. Where are these settings
stored. They're obviously not in the registry and I couldn't find the
file (in the mailbox folder) that would handle it. I'd like to reset
it to the defaults.

* Why does the un-installer not remove the HKCU\Software\RIT entries
during an un-install?

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Issue with mailbox

2007-08-26 Thread Indie_Dev

While I was searching for a message, I noticed that one of my
mailboxes was missing. So I tried re-create it so that I could
re-export the original folder from TB. Thats when TB! informed me that
a folder of the same name existed.

I looked through my entire folder tree for the a/c and didn't see it.

So I went to Explorer, looked in the account folder tree and saw that it
was there and contained two files:

MESSAGES.TBB
MESSAGES.TBI

In order to bring it back, I had to close TB!, rename the original
folder, create one of the same name, moved those two files from the
backup folder to the new folder and restarted TB!. The mailbox folder
then showed up.

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[beta 21] VIP handling corrupt

2007-08-26 Thread Sebastian Murawski
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!!

In  new  beta  is  VIP  handling corrupt. When I add VIP to contact in
address  book,  TB  move this contact from group to main address book.
Drop down list on new message is wrong and address are not in groups.

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Re: Issues with threaded view

2007-08-26 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Indie_Dev,
  A reminder of what Indie_Dev typed on:
  Sunday, August 26, 2007 at 09:39:43 GMT -0400

I 1. I discovered that in threaded view mode, if you select the folder
I (left pane), then set it to No View Mode, the screen is the
I refreshed unless you first select another view tab (e.g. Unread) and
I then back to the previous (e.g. All). In fact, I have observed that
I sometimes, changing from threaded view mode does not work on a per
I folder basis. Just now it happened to me and I have to do it from the
I View/Global View Mode option.

I However, going from any view (e.g. No View Mode) to threaded view
I updates the screen immediately.

My view modes seem to refresh with every change. The one thing I have
found with View Modes in TB! is to set View/Global View Mode to No
View Mode and leave it there. It overrides all other view modes and
causes confusion.

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Re[2]: Issues with threaded view

2007-08-26 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Indie_Dev,
  A reminder of what Indie_Dev typed on:
  Sunday, August 26, 2007 at 09:49:44 GMT -0400

 So, I did just that. When I restarted TB!, my views dialog had huge
 gaps in it. The pic is too large for this post, so I'll do a follow-up
 next.

I Attached is what my views dialog looks like. Notice the gaps? Is that
I normal?

No gaps in my display.

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Re[2]: [SOT] Question about 'Monitor Issue' in BT reports

2007-08-26 Thread Bob Riley
Hi MAU,

Sunday, August 26, 2007, 2:07:54 AM, you wrote:


 depends on your profile settings.

 You are right. I completely forgot about 'My Account' and 'Preferences'.

 I'm getting old  

And that is as normal as breathing and being born.  All part of a
journey, so please be patient with yourself.

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Re: Issues with threaded view

2007-08-26 Thread vitalie vrabie
Indie_Dev wrote:
 Attached is what my views dialog looks like. Notice the gaps? Is that
 normal?
   
wow! nice tits! thanks for the shot!
and what's wrong with the gap between them?


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Re[2]: Issues with threaded view

2007-08-26 Thread Indie_Dev
Sunday, August 26, 2007, 10:46:52 AM, you wrote:

 Hello Indie_Dev,
   A reminder of what Indie_Dev typed on:
   Sunday, August 26, 2007 at 09:39:43 GMT -0400

I 1. I discovered that in threaded view mode, if you select the folder
I (left pane), then set it to No View Mode, the screen is the
I refreshed unless you first select another view tab (e.g. Unread) and
I then back to the previous (e.g. All). In fact, I have observed that
I sometimes, changing from threaded view mode does not work on a per
I folder basis. Just now it happened to me and I have to do it from the
I View/Global View Mode option.

I However, going from any view (e.g. No View Mode) to threaded view
I updates the screen immediately.

 My view modes seem to refresh with every change. The one thing I have
 found with View Modes in TB! is to set View/Global View Mode to No
 View Mode and leave it there. It overrides all other view modes and
 causes confusion.

That might be the problem. I just noticed that having the View/Global
View Mode set to threaded, causes confusion and acts like a toggle.

e.g. if you have View/Global View Mode set, when switching to other
views and return to the All filter, the messages are not threaded.
Now if you check the view settings for that folder, its set to
threaded' but the messages are no longer threaded. You have to set it
to No View Mode and _then_ it goes back to being threaded (which I
assume its getting from the Global View Mode setting.

Yes, its inconsistent and confusing; but don't say it out loud though.

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Re[3]: Issues with threaded view

2007-08-26 Thread Indie_Dev
Sunday, August 26, 2007, 10:48:34 AM, you wrote:

 Hello Indie_Dev,
   A reminder of what Indie_Dev typed on:
   Sunday, August 26, 2007 at 09:49:44 GMT -0400

 So, I did just that. When I restarted TB!, my views dialog had huge
 gaps in it. The pic is too large for this post, so I'll do a follow-up
 next.

I Attached is what my views dialog looks like. Notice the gaps? Is that
I normal?

 No gaps in my display.

Yes, I thought so. I just need to figure out how to reset it to the
defaults.

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Re: Issues with threaded view

2007-08-26 Thread Rick Grunwald
Hello Indie_Dev
On Sunday, August 26, 2007 you wrote:

 Attached is what my views dialog looks
 like. Notice the gaps? Is that
 normal?

Not at all - something is very wrong


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Re: Issues with threaded view

2007-08-26 Thread Rick Grunwald
Hello vitalie
On Sunday, August 26, 2007 you wrote:

 Indie_Dev wrote:
 Attached is what my views dialog looks like.
 Notice the gaps? Is that
 normal?
   
 wow! nice tits! thanks for the shot!
 and what's wrong with the gap between them?

Vitalie - if the mods won't tell you I will.
We were all asked to quit the bickering

You seem to want to keep it going

PLEASE STOP - the rest of us have

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Re: [beta 21] VIP handling corrupt

2007-08-26 Thread Rick Grunwald
Hello Sebastian
On Sunday, August 26, 2007 you wrote:

 Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!!

 In  new  beta  is  VIP  handling corrupt. When I
 add VIP to contact in
 address  book,  TB  move this contact from group to
 main address book.
 Drop down list on new message is wrong and address
 are not in groups.

I have posted similar issues with the address book with no confirms.
SOME addresses are not in the list and secondary addresses that have
been used recently no longer appear

This is a change in behavior since .08 or .09

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Re: Issues with threaded view

2007-08-26 Thread Jim Brown
Hi Indie_Dev,

 Where are these settings stored.

   It seems the settings are stored in the config.cdb file which seems
   to be a binary CDB Database...

   I wonder whether somehow null/blank rows got added to the file
   may seem to obvious but perhaps are those clank row gaps
   selectable, and thus maybe able to be deleted from the views window?

 Best Regards,
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Re: [SOT] Question about 'Monitor Issue' in BT reports

2007-08-26 Thread MAU
Hello Bob,

 And that is as normal as breathing and being born.  All part of a
 journey, so please be patient with yourself.

Oh dear God, help me become a patient man. But do it NOW!! ;-)

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Re: Issues with threaded view

2007-08-26 Thread vitalie vrabie
Rick Grunwald wrote:
 Vitalie - if the mods won't tell you I will.
 We were all asked to quit the bickering

 You seem to want to keep it going

 PLEASE STOP - the rest of us have
   
okay, okay. was just having some fun.

as of the problem, if taken seriously - looks like data corruption.


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Delete msgs on server broken?

2007-08-26 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi all,

my PC at home and this notebook are both set to leave messages on the
server for 21 days. Now I found that the messages on the server date
back up to July 30. Obviously they aren't routinely deleted any more
since last Monday.

Has anyone else observed this?

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Filter settings

2007-08-26 Thread Den V. Yafyasov
Hello.

When I restart the Bat, all settings Share with... is clear, even
through I checked it.

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Re: Issue with mailbox

2007-08-26 Thread Krzysztof Trybowski
Hello Indie_Dev,

 In order to bring it back, I had to close TB!, rename the original
 folder, create one of the same name, moved those two files from the
 backup folder to the new folder and restarted TB!. The mailbox folder
 then showed up.

Taking aside the reason why this happens, in the future it will be
faster for you to use undocumented Ctrl-Shift-Alt-L combination.


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Faulty operation of 'Read' filters by 'SmartSpace' shortcut.

2007-08-26 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello  All,

It  is  apparent  that  some  of  the  older  bug report items are now being
attended  to,  perhaps in preparation for version 4? There is one bug that I
submitted  almost  two  years ago which is still shown as 'New'. This may be
because  it  did  not have any confirmations from anyone else! The bug still
exists and I would like to make another attempt to get it fixed.

The Problem:

I  usually  navigate  from  one  unread  message  to  the  next by using the
'SmartSpace'  shortcut.  Apart  from moving to the next message this is also
set  to mark the message being left as 'Read' and this action usually serves
to  trigger  any  associated  'Read'  filter.  However, if the message being
departed is the last unread message in a folder containing several messages,
or  if  it  is  the only message in a folder, then any 'Read' filter *IS NOT
TRIGGERED*.

Can anyone else confirm this please?

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Re[2]: Issue with mailbox

2007-08-26 Thread Indie_Dev
Sunday, August 26, 2007, 12:38:08 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Indie_Dev,

 In order to bring it back, I had to close TB!, rename the original
 folder, create one of the same name, moved those two files from the
 backup folder to the new folder and restarted TB!. The mailbox folder
 then showed up.

 Taking aside the reason why this happens, in the future it will be
 faster for you to use undocumented Ctrl-Shift-Alt-L combination.

Undocumented? So, uhm, what does it do exactly?


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