Mod: Untrimmed reply (was: The Bat! 4.0)
Hallo Hans, On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 7:06:49 +0200GMT (15-10-2007, 7:06, where I live), you wrote: HS Hans Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Hans. ' Please trim replies to context. A sure fire indicator that insufficient trimming has been done is that the original signature and list footer remain in the quoted text. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof I'm an absolute, off-the-wall fanatical Moderator. pgpTzjzPdv6hk.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in night, Krzysztof wrote something like this: Tell me why this happen? I suspect a quite a big number of reasons are involved. Frequency of releases being a lesser one. I'd roughly say: (...) But this is RITs side. Normal user do not see this. You asked why that happened. So I wrote about my ideas what the reasons are. Normal users see results of the reasons above. The results are *NOT* things to cure. The reasons are. But this results show why TB ...none of these posts contains a detailed question that could lead to a conclusion that it not true that you can set everything so that it works exactly as in OE. Hence I re-state my assertion: I believe you can set everything so that it works exactly as in OE. hmmm Belive or not but not everything. Once again - see above links. Once again: the above links do NOT give detailed information about what can't be set up. That's why I'm asking. What is this:? Nie da się - każde konto musi mieć swój własny zestaw standardowych folderów. Another thing I notice after reading the articles you liked above is that people on that forum seem to be quite unhelpful. When you activate account, you must accept rules. One of rule is that you not ask about something that is in manual or you can find in forum archive, tb-l archive and PSTB FAQ - use search option. And you end up with… how many? 6 topics with virtually the same content: -How do I...? -RTFM. Sometimes better write more. Or give an exact link not just read the manual. Otherwise we can replace all answers with Google it!. Please do not judge people that help other users. You do not help on this forum even one more time and have knowledge how to set TB like OE up. People that help maybe do not know this trick. You know - please write this, it is very important for many users. Help them but nor here. Each topic starts with a question if it was possible to set TB up in an OE-manner. The answers are short and there are just two of them. Either no, So please support RITs and PSTB forum and only one time answer (you read, you know answer? you not answer - you are quite unhelpful?). I'm not even registered there and I just saw those posts Rules are the some like you accepted with tb-l registration. You are registered tb-l user. Topics are above. There is no possibility to have 5 different Accounts and one folder tree like in OE. You can only cheat but you newer hide 5 accounts. And this answer is in PSTB FAQ, you can find in forum and in tb-l. You can hide the accounts in a tree. You need to use color groups. Since some versions you can apply a color group to a folder. A new tab will appear by the bottom of the account tree. Select it. Voila. And filters? And many Inboxes? You have read questions? Perhaps it would be better to instead just explain exactly how to set things up. Once again: there is no such possibility. Over. But you still didn't explain what exactly is not possible :P. See posts dates and TB versions. See changelog and note date for: - virtual folders - folder tabs And think about: - options for global inbox and then when something arrive to this inbox filters sorting - extended and not manual - automatic account choosing by new message or answer EOT -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: The Bat! 4.0
Hello Gleason, Sunday, October 14, 2007, 5:59:25 PM, you wrote: GP I remember a techie friend in the early days of Firebird saying that GP it was superior because it introduced tabs. He didn't seem to think GP that Netscape had tabs. Never heard of Opera. So what was the GP secret? How did Moz get noticed? The thing about FF was that it offered improvements over IE in the areas of functionality, but more importantly, security. That made it very attractive to the geek community. They picked up in it early. When they went to help out their tech-challenged friends who had gotten 'clobbered' by some 'problem' in IE, they would tell them to use this here program. Then the tech journals picked up on it ... and then the main stream press got wind ... etc. I don't know that the same tactic will work here. For one thing, there are a lot of mail clients out there. When FF came out there were just a couple out there. Look at all the mail clients and some of them are quite functional. The other problem is that the 'benefits' are not as 'clear' in this situation. For example, I cannot use TB for MSN now that MS has changed the authentication (yet again sigh). -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.99.25 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0
Hello Sebastian, On Monday, October 15, 2007 Sebastian Murawski wrote: What is this:? Nie da się - każde konto musi mieć swój własny zestaw standardowych folderów. OK, true: each account has to have its own set of folders. But you can just hide them, and forget them. This doesn't really influence the way one can work with the programme. The solution is not technically identical with what other programmes do. It is however workable from the user's POV. I knot what, because I use that :). And you end up with (...) 6 topics with virtually the same content: -How do I...? -RTFM. Sometimes better write more. Or give an exact link not just read the manual. Otherwise we can replace all answers with Google it!. Please do not judge people that help other users. Oh, I'm not judging, I'm just roughly describing the content of the topics you linked. Roughly, means not exactly. This comment of mine was of more general nature. People that help maybe do not know this trick. You know - please write this, it is very important for many users. Help them but nor here. Well, I consider this a challenge. Okay, I'll do some research and write an article, why not. Up till now, I wasn't aware of the problem. So please support RITs and PSTB forum and only one time answer (you read, you know answer? you not answer - you are quite unhelpful?). I'm not even registered there and I just saw those posts Rules are the some like you accepted with tb-l registration. You are registered tb-l user. True. And it will remain so -- I don't like forums, so I'd rather stick to ML. Topics are above. There is no possibility to have 5 different Accounts and one folder tree like in OE. You can only cheat but you newer hide 5 accounts. And this answer is in PSTB FAQ, you can find in forum and in tb-l. You can hide the accounts in a tree. You need to use color groups. Since some versions you can apply a color group to a folder. A new tab will appear by the bottom of the account tree. Select it. Voila. And filters? And many Inboxes? You have read questions? You just wrote a few mails ago, that you know how to cheat that behavior using filters and common folders... Right? Perhaps it would be better to instead just explain exactly how to set things up. Once again: there is no such possibility. Over. But you still didn't explain what exactly is not possible :P. See posts dates and TB versions. See changelog and note date for: - virtual folders - folder tabs Oh... You got me with forum topics -- perhaps by the time those posts were sent, TB lacked the necessary functionality. But we are discussing the case here and now, hence we're settling our claims on the newest version. It was yesterday when you wrote it can't be done. And think about: - options for global inbox and then when something arrive to this inbox filters sorting - extended and not manual - automatic account choosing by new message or answer Can you give me more details on PM (and in Polish)? EOT Sure, EOT. Thanks for having a nice and inspiring discussion ;). Regards, KT -- Krzysztof Trybowski Gadu-Gadu: 1458144 --- Skype: trybowski AQQ: 141062 --- ICQ: 4350719 --- gpg key-id: 0xC937B0F2 Using The Bat! 3.99.24 [reg] under Windows XP 5.1 build 2600. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[6]: The Bat! 4.0
10/15/2007 8:31 AM Hi MikeD, On 10/15/2007 MikeD (2) wrote: M2 very attractive to the geek community. They picked up in it early. M2 When they went to help out their tech-challenged friends who had M2 gotten 'clobbered' by some 'problem' in IE, they would tell them to M2 use this here program. Hmm... Opera was around waay before Firefox and is waay more secure. A quick check at Secunia will confirm this. As I recall Firebird/Firefox started as a way to get rid of Netscape bloat and then morphed into the secure replacement for IE. If you want a safe browser get it here: http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/ See its security history here: http://secunia.com/product/15549/?task=advisories M2 I cannot use TB for MSN now M2 that MS has changed the authentication (yet again sigh). What a wonderful opportunity to move to a more positive email host! 8-]} -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! 4.0
10/15/2007 8:47 AM Hi Krzysztof, On 10/15/2007 Krzysztof Trybowski wrote: Topics are above. There is no possibility to have 5 different Accounts and one folder tree like in OE. You can only cheat but you newer hide 5 accounts. And this answer is in PSTB FAQ, you can find in forum and in tb-l. You can hide the accounts in a tree. You need to use color groups. Since some versions you can apply a color group to a folder. A new tab will appear by the bottom of the account tree. Select it. Voila. And filters? And many Inboxes? You have read questions? KT You just wrote a few mails ago, that you know how to cheat KT that behavior using filters and common folders... Right? I'm still waiting for someone to transform my VW Rabbit into a Mercedes-Benz 350 SL. Why won't somebody do it for me? And preferably free! Making TB into OE is akin to the reverse of the above example! -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
access violation
Het is nu maandag 15 oktober 2007, 18:57:35 : Hallo TbBeta, 15-10-2007, 18:57:06: FETCH - receiving mail messages 15-10-2007, 18:57:06: FETCH - connected to POP3 server 15-10-2007, 18:57:07: FETCH - authenticated (plain) 15-10-2007, 18:57:07: FETCH - 1 messages in the mailbox, 1 new 15-10-2007, 18:57:07: FETCH - Received message from totaljobs.nl [EMAIL PROTECTED], size: 14791 bytes, subject: Vacatures van totaljobs.nl !15-10-2007, 18:57:07: FETCH - Access violation at address 100053CB in module 'antispamservant.tbp'. Read of address 15-10-2007, 18:57:07: FETCH - connection finished - 1 messages received is what I keep getting as of now only happened after changing TheBat! version. -- groeten, Cees :snowrub: Most books now say our sun is a star. But it still knows how to change back into a sun in the daytime. __ The Bat! 3.99.25 [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: access violation
Hello all, 15-10-2007, 18:57:06: FETCH - receiving mail messages 15-10-2007, 18:57:06: FETCH - connected to POP3 server 15-10-2007, 18:57:07: FETCH - authenticated (plain) 15-10-2007, 18:57:07: FETCH - 1 messages in the mailbox, 1 new 15-10-2007, 18:57:07: FETCH - Received message from totaljobs.nl [EMAIL PROTECTED], size: 14791 bytes, subject: Vacatures van totaljobs.nl !15-10-2007, 18:57:07: FETCH - Access violation at address 100053CB in module 'antispamservant.tbp'. Read of address 15-10-2007, 18:57:07: FETCH - connection finished - 1 messages received is what I keep getting as of now only happened after changing TheBat! version. and what version of ASS do You use? I have no problem here in TB 3.99.25 with ASS 2.6.1.5 Pro -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.99.25 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.6.1.5 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: access violation
Het was maandag 15 oktober 2007 om 19:05 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'access violation' : Hallo Marek, module 'antispamservant.tbp'. Read of address 15-10-2007, 18:57:07: FETCH - connection finished - 1 messages received is what I keep getting as of now only happened after changing TheBat! version. MM and what version of ASS do You use? I have no problem here in TB 3.99.25 MM with ASS 2.6.1.5 Pro 2.2.17.141 and it says there's no update available :S -- Groeten, Cees :snowrub: On a hotel provided shower cap: Fits one head. __ The Bat! 3.99.25 [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Access violation ! v3.99.23 - 25
Hi the bat don't wont start (50% core 2 duo used) v3.99.25 Z/giesu 2007-10-14 21:39:26 tbmain:StartThebat EAccessViolation Access violation at address 005291E0. Write of address 005291E0 v3.99.25 Z/giesu 2007-10-15 09:55:14 tbmain:StartThebat EAccessViolation Access violation at address 004991E0. Write of address 004991E0 v3.99.25 Z/giesu 2007-10-15 09:55:17 ExceptHandler:004991E0 EAccessViolation Access violation at address 004991E0. Write of address 004991E0 v3.99.25 Z/giesu 2007-10-15 20:06:51 tbmain:StartThebat EAccessViolation Access violation at address 003A91E0. Write of address 003A91E0 v3.99.25 Z/giesu 2007-10-15 20:09:48 tbmain:StartThebat EAccessViolation Access violation at address 004A91E0. Write of address 004A91E0 plugin enable or disable nothing change... antispamsniper 2.6.1.5 and The BAT! v3.99.23,24,25 ! in x.xx.9 works ok on Windows Vista i tested and only change thebat.exe to like thebat2.exe and works ;] or windows restart (sometimes 2x) and works -- __ Pozdrawiam, Grzesiek Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Signal strings in filters using a text file
Hi TBBETA, I've been trying to figure out how to get a signal string text file to work in v3.x filter. I want to kill messages on the server and have an external word list. Do I put a macro in filter condition or what? Tried TBUL and the Ritlabs message board, but no takers :( -- Regards, Neal Using TheBat! v3.99.24 (BETA) on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
