Re: Wish/Suggestion re: URL manager

2008-01-08 Thread MAU
Hello Kyle,

 If  you  would  be so kind, please indicate where one accesses the url 
 manager. I do not see it in
 the preferences or anyplace else for that matter. Help index does not 
 reference URL Manger.

Select an HTML message which includes remote images. To the right of the
Headers pane you will see a World with a question mark. Click on that
icon.

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Re: Mod: HTML use

2008-01-08 Thread Robert van der Hulst
Hi Marck,
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008, at 07:48:18 [GMT +] (which was 8:48 where I live) 
you wrote about: 'Mod: HTML use'

 HTML causes the main message body to be MIME encapsulated and that
 in turn pushes the list message footer into a part.txt attachment.


So does PGP signing, which you use in your messages...


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Re: Mod: HTML use

2008-01-08 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Robert,

@8-Jan-2008, 12:29 +0100 (08-Jan 11:29 here) Robert van der Hulst
[RVD] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:

 HTML causes the main message body to be MIME encapsulated and that
 in turn pushes the list message footer into a part.txt attachment.

RVD So does PGP signing, which you use in your messages...

Yes - if it is PGP/MIME signing, which we moderators use to
authenticate our posts here.

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Re: Wish/Suggestion re: URL manager

2008-01-08 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Tuesday, January 8, 2008, MAU wrote:

 Wish: Have the URL Manager icon show in the toolbar by default.

 Why? You only need it when you are viewing HTML message with remote
 images. It's similar to the Insert Smiley icon that you get in the
 editor, would you want that in the main toolbar?

as I think, there should be new section in preferences dialog with options
related to downlading images (purging, proxy setting etc.) and button for
editing hostnames can be included there.

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Re: Wish/Suggestion re: URL manager

2008-01-08 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

M Select an HTML message which includes remote images. To the right
M of the Headers pane you will see a World with a question mark.
M Click on that icon.

 Wish: Have the URL Manager icon show in the toolbar by default.

Why? You only need it when you are viewing HTML message with remote
images. It's similar to the Insert Smiley icon that you get in the
editor, would you want that in the main toolbar?

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Re: 4.0.0.6: Unread tab

2008-01-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Robert,

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 08:15:50 +0100 GMT (08/01/2008, 14:15 +0700 GMT),
Robert van der Hulst wrote:

RvdH https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6632

Added a note.

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Re: Wish/Suggestion re: URL manager

2008-01-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 10:54:54 +0100 GMT (08/01/2008, 16:54 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

 If you would be so kind, please indicate where one accesses the
 url manager. I do not see it in the preferences or anyplace else
 for that matter. Help index does not reference URL Manger.

M Select an HTML message which includes remote images. To the right
M of the Headers pane you will see a World with a question mark.
M Click on that icon.

Wish: Have the URL Manager icon show in the toolbar by default.

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URL manager

2008-01-08 Thread Kyle Goodnight
Ahh  so, Now I see the the Trees! I have been using it all along and just did 
not pay attention to
the caption of the focus window that was validating the URL links to display 
the HTML images. Is the
URL Manger functionality covered in any of the help documentation?

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Re: URL manager

2008-01-08 Thread MAU
Hello Kyle,

 Is the URL Manger functionality covered in any of the help
 documentation?

No, not yet. We are working with an ALPHA version, not even a Beta. I
assume something will be included when the new version is actually
released.


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Re[2]: The Bat! 4.0.0.5 ALPHA

2008-01-08 Thread Ethan J. Mings
Hello Richard,

Monday, December 31, 2007, 11:07:36 AM, you wrote:

 but no spell checker.

I understand the spell checker will be released at some point.  I'm
waiting for a test version with a spell checker before I dig into some
serious testing.

Jerry

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Re: Wish/Suggestion re: URL manager

2008-01-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek,

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 13:27:26 +0100 GMT (08/01/2008, 19:27 +0700 GMT),
Marek Mikus wrote:

 Wish: Have the URL Manager icon show in the toolbar by default.

 Why? You only need it when you are viewing HTML message with remote
 images. It's similar to the Insert Smiley icon that you get in the
 editor, would you want that in the main toolbar?

Because I sometimes click on the icon I created manually in the
toolbar, in order to clean up. Also, it satisfies the curiosity of
new users, but that it admittedly a marketing issue, not a technical
one.

MM as I think, there should be new section in preferences dialog with
MM options related to downlading images (purging, proxy setting etc.)
MM and button for editing hostnames can be included there.

That's a good idea.

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Re: Wish/Suggestion re: URL manager

2008-01-08 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

 Wish: Have the URL Manager icon show in the toolbar by default.

 Why? You only need it when you are viewing HTML message with remote
 images. It's similar to the Insert Smiley icon that you get in the
 editor, would you want that in the main toolbar?

 Because I sometimes click on the icon I created manually in the
 toolbar, in order to clean up.

You can always use Customiser. There is no need to clutter everybody's
toolbar by default.

 Also, it satisfies the curiosity of new users,

And maybe be misled if, when they click the icon, they are not
displaying an HTM message with remote images. Anyway, my example of
'Insert Smiley' is still valid. Why not include it in the toolbar to
satisfy curiosity of new users? :)


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Re: Wish/Suggestion re: URL manager

2008-01-08 Thread MAU
Hello Marek,

 Wish: Have the URL Manager icon show in the toolbar by default.

 Why? You only need it when you are viewing HTML message with remote
 images. It's similar to the Insert Smiley icon that you get in the
 editor, would you want that in the main toolbar?

 as I think, there should be new section in preferences dialog with options
 related to downlading images (purging, proxy setting etc.) and button for
 editing hostnames can be included there.

But that is different. You are talking about configuration options,
which seem logical in the Preferences dialog.

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Re: Wish/Suggestion re: URL manager

2008-01-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 14:15:14 +0100 GMT (08/01/2008, 20:15 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

 Because I sometimes click on the icon I created manually in the
 toolbar, in order to clean up.

M You can always use Customiser. There is no need to clutter
M everybody's toolbar by default.

The Customiser is a usability nightmare.

 Also, it satisfies the curiosity of new users,

M And maybe be misled if, when they click the icon, they are not
M displaying an HTM message with remote images.

Maybe, maybe not. Maybe they just want to have a choice. I have at
several times criticised that TB! came across as a nannying software.

M Anyway, my example of 'Insert Smiley' is still valid. Why not
M include it in the toolbar to satisfy curiosity of new users? :)

The insert smiley does indeed show up automatically if you use the
HTML editor. As it should. I don't click on it, I don't use it, so it
is my choice.

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Re[2]: The Bat! 4.0.0.7 ALPHA

2008-01-08 Thread Valerye Bostan
Hello, Henk!

On Sat, 5 Jan 2008, at 00:37:11 [GMT +0100] (which was 1:37 where I
live) you wrote:

...

HMdB Up and running fine, next to:
HMdB https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6628

This issue will stay this way for a while.
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Re: Wish/Suggestion re: URL manager

2008-01-08 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

M Anyway, my example of 'Insert Smiley' is still valid. Why not
M include it in the toolbar to satisfy curiosity of new users? :)

 The insert smiley does indeed show up automatically if you use the
 HTML editor. As it should.

Not just for HTML editor, it also shows if using Microed for plain text.
I don't recall from which version on, but it seems to me that it has been
there for a long time.

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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.7 ALPHA

2008-01-08 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008, at 16:17:54 [GMT +0200] (which was 15:17 where I
live) Valerye Bostan wrote:

Hello, Valerye,

 On Sat, 5 Jan 2008, at 00:37:11 [GMT +0100] (which was 1:37 where I
 live) you wrote:

 ...

HMdB Up and running fine, next to:
HMdB https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6628

 This issue will stay this way for a while.
 Old simple No message pane is in progress of replacement.

Ok, thanks!

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Re: Wish/Suggestion re: URL manager

2008-01-08 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Thomas Fernandez,

am Dienstag, 8. Januar 2008 um 12:57 schrieben Sie:

 Wish: Have the URL Manager icon show in the toolbar by default.

I support this.

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The Bat! 4.0.0.8 ALPHA

2008-01-08 Thread Maxim Masiutin
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tba4008.rar

[-] (#0006618) Strange errors in ex_log.txt on every start since 4.0.0.5 Alpha
[*] Icon definitions for smaller versions added
[+] When verifying S/MIME digital signatures, The Bat! now shows time stamps 
made by a Time Stamping Authority (TSA) 
[-] AV in reload big message
[-] movemousemessage delpi error
[-] (#0006610) Images are not downloaded, when paths are relative instead 
absolute
[-] (#0006584) HTML documents do not print online images 
[-] (#0006628) Message window not redrawn for empty folders



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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.8 ALPHA

2008-01-08 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Tuesday, January 8, 2008, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

 [-] (#0006610) Images are not downloaded, when paths are relative instead
 absolute
 [-] (#0006584) HTML documents do not print online images 
 [-] (#0006628) Message window not redrawn for empty folders

all these confirmed as fixed.

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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.8 ALPHA

2008-01-08 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Tuesday, January 8, 2008, 19:05:14, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tba4008.rar

URLs are broken in this release - all  signs in URL end up as
#x0026; in the browser.

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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.8 ALPHA

2008-01-08 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hello Maxim,
 
 [*] Icon definitions for smaller versions added

how can I see the changes at the XML file? The XML file is encrypted.

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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.8 ALPHA

2008-01-08 Thread MAU
Hello Maxim,

 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tba4008.rar

 [-] (#0006618) Strange errors in ex_log.txt on every start since 4.0.0.5 Alpha

Seems fixed. But wasn't it fixed in 4.0.0.7? My log has entries for
4.0.0.5 and 4.0.0.6 but none for 4.0.0.7.

 [-] (#0006584) HTML documents do not print online images
 [-] (#0006628) Message window not redrawn for empty folders

Both fixed.

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Re[2]: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts

2008-01-08 Thread Goncalo Farias

In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

M I  also  move  'old  messages' to a folder in my password protected
M Archive   account.  But  I  do  this  automatically  by  using  the
M Alternative  deletion  in  the  folder  Properties.  I  have many
M folders set up this way.

I  see  what  you  mean.  I was not aware of that alternative deletion
mode. It's nice... maybe I'll give it a try.

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4.0.0.8: AV. What the heck happend to my folder tree ?????

2008-01-08 Thread MAU
Hello all,

This is a bit scary. As you can see in my signature I'm back all the way
to v3.99.29. This is why:

I was looking at the Unread tab in the folder tree and decided to change
the column settings of this tab. While looking at the column settings
dialog, a few seconds after opening it and without doing anything, I got
the following AV:

---
The Bat!
---
Access violation at address 009A8EDC in module 'thebat4008.exe'. Read of 
address .
---
Aceptar   
---

Upon clicking Aceptar (OK) the error dialog disappeared but then I
noticed that the Unread tab did not show any folder at all, it was
blank. I switched to All and Virtual tabs and back to Unread but it
still didn't show any folders. So, I decided to re-start TB.

And what happened after restarting? Look at the attached PNG. That was
for the All tab. Scary, isn't it? So I went back to 4.0.0.7 and same
thing. Oh my God, what has happened? I verified that the physical
folders on disk had the correct names but, anyhow, I decided to at least
momentarily go back to 3.99.29.

After I calmed down a bit I have finally understood what happened.
Somehow, when I was looking at the Unread tab column set up and got the
AV, the column settings for All tab had changed and instead of Name,
Unread and Total columns (which is what I use) it was set up to display
Account, Unread and Total.

What a relief!!!  :-))

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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.8 ALPHA

2008-01-08 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Maxim Masiutin,

am Dienstag, 8. Januar 2008 um 19:05 schrieben Sie:

 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tba4008.rar

I have still Problems with viewing one HTML Mail, please see yourself
at:
http://www.de2all.de/thebat/obi-newsletter.mbx
The Images from newsletter.obi.de are not visible to me, even i did
allow download in URLmanager...

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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.8 ALPHA

2008-01-08 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Tuesday, January 8, 2008, Jens Franik wrote:

 I have still Problems with viewing one HTML Mail, please see yourself
 at:
 http://www.de2all.de/thebat/obi-newsletter.mbx
 The Images from newsletter.obi.de are not visible to me, even i did
 allow download in URLmanager...

it  is  interesting,  but all files are correctly downloaded, so maybe
there is some problem with displaying them...

Seems like only images from http://rdir.de/ are not displayed, maybe it is
related to  in URLs problem reported by Jernej 2 hours ago.

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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.8 ALPHA

2008-01-08 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008, at 20:05:14 [GMT +0200] (which was 19:05 where I
live) Maxim Masiutin wrote:

 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tba4008.rar

Up and running fine!

 [-] (#0006618) Strange errors in ex_log.txt on every start since 4.0.0.5 Alpha

v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) 5-1-2008 6:50:59 RasMon:4 EAccessViolation Access
violation at address 0045AD4B in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address
0008

However with this version no errors in this file

...*snipped*

 [-] (#0006628) Message window not redrawn for empty folders

Looks ok ;-)

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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.8 ALPHA

2008-01-08 Thread Marc Segers




Hello The Bat,

Tuesday, January 8, 2008 - 7:05:14 PM, our friendtbbeta@thebat.dutaint.comwrote:

MMhttp://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tba4008.rar

MM [-] (#0006618) Strange errors in ex_log.txt on every start since 4.0.0.5 Alpha
MM [*] Icon definitions for smaller versions added
MM [+] When verifying S/MIME digital signatures, The Bat! now shows time stamps made by a Time Stamping Authority (TSA)
MM [-] AV in reload big message
MM [-] movemousemessage delpi error
MM [-] (#0006610) Images are not downloaded, when paths are relative instead absolute
MM [-] (#0006584) HTML documents do not print online images
MM [-] (#0006628) Message window not redrawn for empty folders


MM 
MM Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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Re: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts

2008-01-08 Thread MAU
Hello Goncalo,

M I  also  move  'old  messages' to a folder in my password protected
M Archive   account.  But  I  do  this  automatically  by  using  the
M Alternative  deletion  in  the  folder  Properties.  I  have many
M folders set up this way.

 I  see  what  you  mean.  I was not aware of that alternative deletion
 mode. It's nice... maybe I'll give it a try.

It is certainly one of the many nice features of TB. One further
suggestion, if I may, if you decide to use it. With time, and specially
if you have many folder, it is easy to forget which folders are set-up
for Alternative Deletion. What I do is to assign these folders to a
special Archive colour group. This way, aside of seeing these folders
(the names) in a different colour in my folder tree while in All tab, I
can also select to view the Archive tab with only these folders.

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Mod: HTML use (was: The Bat! 4.0.0.8 ALPHA)

2008-01-08 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Marc,

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 21:32:15 +0100GMT (8-1-2008, 21:32, where I live),
you wrote:

M Hello The Bat,

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Re: URL manager

2008-01-08 Thread Kyle Goodnight
 Is the URL Manger functionality covered in any of the help
 documentation?
M 
M No, not yet. We are working with an ALPHA version, not even a Beta. I
M assume something will be included when the new version is actually
M released.
M 
M 
M -- 
M Best regards,
M 
M Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
M Using The Bat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2

Thanks  for  the reply. I am sure everything will be in it's proper place at 
the proper time. I must
say  that  I  am really impressed with the functionality of this client. Just 
reading the group list
posts is an education in it's self. Thanks again.

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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.8 ALPHA

2008-01-08 Thread Rick Grunwald
Hello Maxim
On Tuesday, January 8, 2008 you wrote:

 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tba4008.rar

I have found something I REALLY don't like. If you have a message and
click on any address in the preview pane you would have options,
Replay to this addrss, send a message to this address etc

Now there is some sort of menu that lets you adjust the headers Copy
etc. Not good

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4.0.0.8A - Add to addressbook missing

2008-01-08 Thread Wolffe
Greetings BatPeople,

With the latest alpha, I tried to add a new address to the address
book from the headers of an email I received. 'Lo and behold, the
option to add selected address to address was missing. I can't
remember the other options, but I do remember there being several
others that also seem to be missing.

Currently, if I highlight the From header and right click all I get
are the following popup options:
  copy
  headers
  send photo
  header layout
  display current part size

If this was an intentional change, I will sorely miss to ability to
add new addresses to the addressbook by simply clicking on them in
the header.

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Re: 4.0.0.8A - Add to addressbook missing

2008-01-08 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Wednesday, January 9, 2008, Wolffe wrote:

 Currently, if I highlight the From header and right click all I get
 are the following popup options:
   copy
   headers
   send photo
   header layout
   display current part size

 If this was an intentional change, I will sorely miss to ability to
 add new addresses to the addressbook by simply clicking on them in
 the header.

of course not, there are changes in plaintext editor and viewer in
progress, they will be back.

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Re[2]: 4.0.0.8A - Add to addressbook missing

2008-01-08 Thread Jim Nafus
Hello Marek,

Tuesday, January 8, 2008, 7:23:20 PM, you wrote:

 Hello all,
 Wednesday, January 9, 2008, Wolffe wrote:

 Currently, if I highlight the From header and right click all I get
 are the following popup options:
   copy
   headers
   send photo
   header layout
   display current part size

 If this was an intentional change, I will sorely miss to ability to
 add new addresses to the addressbook by simply clicking on them in
 the header.

 of course not, there are changes in plaintext editor and viewer in
 progress, they will be back.


I believe that double clicking on the address will add it to the
address book.  I am not fond of this design, either - would like it to
just right click to add.

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Re: 4.0.0.8A - Add to addressbook missing

2008-01-08 Thread Thomas Martin
Hello Wolffe,

on Tuesday, 8. January 2008, at 01:22:05 [GMT +0100] you wrote
regarding 4.0.0.8A - Add to addressbook missing:

 If this was an intentional change, I will sorely miss to ability to
 add new addresses to the addressbook by simply clicking on them in
 the header.

Still working here by doubleclick.

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Re: 4.0.0.8A - Add to addressbook missing

2008-01-08 Thread Rick Grunwald
Hello Thomas
On Tuesday, January 8, 2008 you wrote:

 Hello Wolffe,

 on Tuesday, 8. January 2008, at 01:22:05 [GMT +0100] you wrote
 regarding 4.0.0.8A - Add to addressbook missing:

 If this was an intentional change, I will sorely miss to ability to
 add new addresses to the addressbook by simply clicking on them in
 the header.

 Still working here by doubleclick.

Yes but the reply to this address and the write a message to this
address are gone. :(


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Re: Header click (was: 4.0.0.8A - Add to addressbook missing)

2008-01-08 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Wednesday, January 9, 2008, Peter Gannushkin wrote:

 If this was an intentional change, I will sorely miss to ability to
 add new addresses to the addressbook by simply clicking on them in
 the header.

MM of course not, there are changes in plaintext editor and viewer in
MM progress, they will be back.

 This is not 4.xx alpha issue.

I have replied to issue about missing entries, _this is_ new in latest
build 4.0.0.8.


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Header click (was: 4.0.0.8A - Add to addressbook missing)

2008-01-08 Thread Peter Gannushkin
Hello Marek,

 Currently, if I highlight the From header and right click all I get
 are the following popup options:
   copy
   headers
   send photo
   header layout
   display current part size

 If this was an intentional change, I will sorely miss to ability to
 add new addresses to the addressbook by simply clicking on them in
 the header.

MM of course not, there are changes in plaintext editor and viewer in
MM progress, they will be back.

This is not 4.xx alpha issue. As reported for 3.99.24 you have to put
the cursor on the header and then double-click instead of just
double-clicking. Here is the bug report which was not yet supported:

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6463

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Address History Setup will not close

2008-01-08 Thread Jim Nafus
Ran the Adress History Setup and once it is finishes searching all the
folders, I click on finish, but the screen will not close.  Have to
hit OK on the preferences window to close the history setup window.

Is this just me?
  

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Re: Header click (was: 4.0.0.8A - Add to addressbook missing)

2008-01-08 Thread Peter Gannushkin
Hello Marek,

 If this was an intentional change, I will sorely miss to ability to
 add new addresses to the addressbook by simply clicking on them in
 the header.

MM of course not, there are changes in plaintext editor and viewer in
MM progress, they will be back.

 This is not 4.xx alpha issue.

MM I have replied to issue about missing entries, _this is_ new in latest
MM build 4.0.0.8.

Part of the issue was that the ability to add new addresses to the
addressbook by simply clicking on them in the header was lost. That
particular functionality was lost before 4.0.0.8. The most of the
right-click menu did indeed disappear in the latest alpha. While I am
sure the latter will be eventually fixed, the former might stay broken
unless someone supports the bug report.

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Re: 4.0.0.8A - Add to addressbook missing

2008-01-08 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello Wolffe,

Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 2:21:02 AM, among other things, you wrote:


W If this was an intentional change, I will sorely miss to ability to
W add new addresses to the addressbook by simply clicking on them in
W the header.

 Agreed, the  feature to add to the address book is essential.


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Re: 4.0.0.8A - Add to addressbook missing

2008-01-08 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello Wolffe,

Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 2:21:02 AM, among other things, you wrote:

W If this was an intentional change, I will sorely miss to ability to
W add new addresses to the addressbook by simply clicking on them in
W the header.

I've  already  answered  once,  but  I now  see that the 'write to address book'
feature  still exists in the 'Specials' menu and presumably one could assign
short-cut keys.


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Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.8 ALPHA

2008-01-08 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hello Rick,

 Now there is some sort of menu that lets you adjust the headers Copy
 etc. Not good

Full ACK, some entries are missing, bring them back please.

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Shutting down TB takes very long

2008-01-08 Thread Robert van der Hulst
With the new alpha (beta) cycle going on I have to restart TB every
now and then to install a new build (I normally keep it running 24*7).

I noticed that after shutting down TB it takes ages before the program
really disappear from memory (I used taskmanager to check for this).

I just timed it and it took 2 minutes and 45 seconds to finish.
I think it is creating msgs.dump files for my virtual folders.

Am I the only one seeing this?

Some statistics for my situation:

- 3 Accounts
- 478 folders
- 4 Gb disk space used by the message base
- 29 virtual folders
- 310 thousand messages
- Most virtual folders monitor only one folder (and filter on mail
from/to a certain address)
- All virtual folders have the 'store state between sessions' flag
unchecked.

I saw the following memory usage
When shutdown begins: Working Set: 48 Mb, Peak 74 Mb
At the end of the shutdown process: Working Set: 75 Mb, Peak 75 Mb

I also noticed that even though I have virtual folders deep in the
hierarchy like (Account\Folder\SubFolder\*VF*)
TB creates a folder on disk directly under the account to store the
file msgs.dump (Account\VF)

I finaly found a folder 'cache' in my messagebase folder with what
looks like images used in HTML mails. Is this ever cleared ?


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