Re: Daylight Saving Time
>> The sent from Outlook at 22:43. > TB is definitely using the wrong offset. It's not my PC as Outlook is > correct. I have rebooted and restarted TB. > I have tried Optoions/Perferences/Message List/Date_Time Format to use > Windows regional Settings > Now the spellin checker has gone AWOL. > I am close to giving up on TB! after more than 10 years of hoping. > It's like pushing down bubbles in wallpaper. They fix one bug and > another pops up somewhere else. Have you checked your SYSTEM clock to see if it is set for the correct time zone? Mine used to have the nasty habit of resetting to GMT when I am on GMT -5. The time and date would be correct, but it would make all kinds of weird other issues -- Rick "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." -- Seneca the Younger v5.0.36.3 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Daylight Saving Time
> The sent from Outlook at 22:43. TB is definitely using the wrong offset. It's not my PC as Outlook is correct. I have rebooted and restarted TB. I have tried Optoions/Perferences/Message List/Date_Time Format to use Windows regional Settings Now the spellin checker has gone AWOL. I am close to giving up on TB! after more than 10 years of hoping. It's like pushing down bubbles in wallpaper. They fix one bug and another pops up somewhere else. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.36.3 (BETA) Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Daylight Saving Time
> I don't know why TB has the offset as -0100. I assume TB gets the > timezone info from Windows. There was a lot of discussion a while back > about timezone offsets and now I wonder if something got broken back > then. > > This message sent at 22:00:11 BST This reply sent from Outlook 22:55 Cheers. Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Daylight Saving Time
> I don't know why TB has the offset as -0100. I assume TB gets the > timezone info from Windows. There was a lot of discussion a while back > about timezone offsets and now I wonder if something got broken back > then. > > This message sent at 22:00:11 BST The sent from Outlook at 22:43. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.36.3 (BETA) Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: Daylight Saving Time
> I don't know why TB has the offset as -0100. I assume TB gets the > timezone info from Windows. There was a lot of discussion a while back > about timezone offsets and now I wonder if something got broken back > then. > > This message sent at 22:00:11 BST Apologies for the lack of quoting. This is being sent from Outlook at 22:32 BST. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.36.3 (BETA) Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Daylight Saving Time
Hello Tony, Tuesday, March 27, 2012, 12:10:59 AM, you wrote: > I don't know why TB has the offset as -0100. I assume TB gets the > timezone info from Windows. There was a lot of discussion a while back > about timezone offsets and now I wonder if something got broken back > then. > > This message sent at 22:00:11 BST > Take a look at the headers of my previous message. Received: from activate.adobe.com (silver.parkinch.co.uk [192.168.1.46]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.parkinch.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A710527297D for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 22:11:04 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 22:10:59 -0100 The Date: is produced by TB (I assume) and offset is incorrect. The first hop is my mail server. Offset is correct. This sent at 22:33 BST -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.36.3 (BETA) Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Daylight Saving Time
Hello Dwight, Monday, March 26, 2012, 7:03:14 PM, you wrote: > On Monday, March 26, 2012, 11:36:49 AM, Tony Hoare wrote: > >> I don't think TB has a clue about the time now. See the attached image > > why would it know anything about the time, beyond what it can learn > from the system clock? > I restarted TB, cleared the cache and all time times on the messages changed. The header says my first message in the thread was sent at Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:41:47 -0100 which was actually 9:41 BST (=GMT+1) My Windows XP PC system clock shows the correct real time and the correct Timezone (automatically adjusts) I don't know why TB has the offset as -0100. I assume TB gets the timezone info from Windows. There was a lot of discussion a while back about timezone offsets and now I wonder if something got broken back then. This message sent at 22:00:11 BST -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.36.3 (BETA) Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: winmail.dat
Hallo Thomas, On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 21:52:29 +0700GMT (26-3-2012, 16:52 , where I live), you wrote: yes, v5 decodes winmail.dat and it is done automatically, so if You see any body or attachment, they were decoded from TS-TNEF. MM>> but I was wrong, it was implemented in 4.0 already :-) TF> No, not in the version I am using. It should be, because this is in the change log: ,- [ ] | 4.0 | --- | | Security has always been the RITLabs' characteristic feature. This credo was not forsaken by The Bat! 4.0 developers - they introduce the URL manager for background retrieval of the HTML images. Its appearance is caused by malicious codes penetrating PCs through graphic elements of the HTML messages more and more frequently. New manager blocks the suspicious images and lets the safe ones through. URL Manager controls the retrieval of messages not by folder or addressee, but by particular hosts or URLs. | | Large-scale innovations were made in The Bat! 4.0 folder tabs. Now users are armed with Favorite sets of folders and addresses which allow grouping the folders according to various criteria regardless of their mailbox positions. Users with large and sophisticatedly structured message bases shall appreciate this quick message access option. One can add his working projects to different Favorite sets, view his most important folders using Favorites or even read the new messages from virtual folders added to Favorite sets. Each Favorite set may contain folders (including virtual ones) and Address History, which is also a The Bat! 4.0 novelty. | | Address History gives users the possibility to track messages for each of the correspondents. Users may quickly find messages from a particular person, find out when this person replied or wrote a message for the last time, etc. The setup wizard collects initial information from the existing message base, so users can start navigating the Address History right away. Address History is totally adjustable - unnecessary correspondents can be deleted from this view mode, addressees can be divided into groups for the user's convenience. When the Address History is enabled, the list of the recorded correspondents can be accessed on the Addresses tab of the folder pane in the main program's window. It can also be combined with the Favorite sets. | | In The Bat! 4.0 users will find an improved convenient interface. The main windows of the program have a modern look. Headers and free spaces of the windows have nice gradient background, unnecessary borders around graphic components were removed, avoiding visual clutter. The account section of the status bar has its own customizable popup menu, the status bar itself having an option to show/hide the account log. | | The MicroEd text editor is improved. Now it supports Unicode, which means that one message can contain symbols from various sets (Latin, Cyrillic, hieroglyphic sets, etc.). In the new version any system fonts can be used for writing messages. Work with the editor is handier; the text search is equipped with new options. | | The developers highly improved the internal image viewer. Now it allows viewing all the attached images in selected messages navigating between them. The viewer supports rotate, advanced resize and zoom algorithms and full screen mode. | | Among other novelties the following ones should be mentioned: | - %EMAIL% environment variable which simplifies The Bat! support and maintenance; | - smart security buttons in PGP and S/MIME messages; | - addressee's name capitalization thanks to a new %TOFName macro processing algorithm; | - Outlook's attachment TNEF format support; | - work with JPEG images with CMYK and YCCK color schemes; | - five times faster message sorting, less memory consume due to fixed memory leaks. `- -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator Rule #4: Everyone hates you, so hate them back! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.36.3 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Daylight Saving Time
Hallo Tony, On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:36:49 -0100GMT (26-3-2012, 18:36 , where I live), you wrote: TH We have just gone over to BST and now my new emails are showing that TH they are created/received two hours into the future. It seems that the TH offset has been added the wrong way. TH> I don't think TB has a clue about the time now. See the attached image How did you change to daylight saving time? Automatically or manually? When I view the headers of your message, it appears that the time of creation is 15:36 -0100, whereas the message is received by the server at 18:57 +0100. As my server mentions receipt of your message at 19:58 +0200, my guess is that the receiving server is right about the time. TB gets the time from your PC's system clock and presuming that your message got sent on creation, your system time is off a bit. 15:36 -0100 = 17:36 +0100 So there's a lag of 90 minutes. Apart from that your timezone suggests that you're in the Azores. However, those are the times listed in your last message in this thread. Your first message mentions a creation time of 9:41 -0100 whereas the server confirms receipt at 9:41 +0100 and the latter time matches with the 10:43 +0200 that my server listed. Therefore either your system has some major problems or you are intentionally or not messing around with your system time. -- Groetjes, Roelof Been there, done that, Got warned by the MODERATOR!!! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.36.3 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Daylight Saving Time
On Monday, March 26, 2012, 11:36:49 AM, Tony Hoare wrote: > I don't think TB has a clue about the time now. See the attached image why would it know anything about the time, beyond what it can learn from the system clock? -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.36.3 (BETA) on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Daylight Saving Time
TH>>> We have just gone over to BST and now my new emails are showing that TH>>> they are created/received two hours into the future. It seems that the TH>>> offset has been added the wrong way. I don't think TB has a clue about the time now. See the attached image -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.36.3 (BETA) <> Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: winmail.dat
Hello Marek, Monday, March 19, 2012, 11:41:44 PM, you wrote: MM> Hello all, MM> Monday, March 19, 2012, Dierk Haasis wrote: >>> yes, v5 decodes winmail.dat and it is done automatically, so if You see any >>> body or attachment, they were decoded from TS-TNEF. >> In that case I sit enlightened. MM> but I was wrong, it was implemented in 4.0 already :-) No, not in the version I am using. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: winmail.dat
Hello Marek, Monday, March 19, 2012, 10:38:02 PM, you wrote: MM> yes, v5 decodes winmail.dat and it is done automatically, so if You see any MM> body or attachment, they were decoded from TS-TNEF. Guessing that you mean v5 of TheBat!, this is extremely good news! Once they can guarantee that the flters work as expected, I'll upgrade. I don't think they are even working on it though. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Daylight Saving Time
Hello Roelof, Monday, March 26, 2012, 10:33:03 AM, you wrote: > Hallo Tony, > On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:41:47 -0100GMT (26-3-2012, 12:41 , where I > live), you wrote: TH>> We have just gone over to BST and now my new emails are showing that TH>> they are created/received two hours into the future. It seems that the TH>> offset has been added the wrong way. > You do appear to have an offset listed the wrong way. That's interesting. The message header says: Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:41:47 -0100 and TB message list says the message was received at 15:41 Is there something I can set somewhere? I don't recall having to do that in any previous version. Your reply: Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 11:44:22 +0200 TB message list: 12:45 -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.36.3 (BETA) Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Daylight Saving Time
Hallo Tony, On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:41:47 -0100GMT (26-3-2012, 12:41 , where I live), you wrote: TH> We have just gone over to BST and now my new emails are showing that TH> they are created/received two hours into the future. It seems that the TH> offset has been added the wrong way. My previous message was created 5.0.36.2 and that had no wrong offset, but I was using that as my new PC isn't quite up to date with all stuff I prefer to use. So therefore I'm doing this with .3 As far as I can see I'm still using the right offset. So maybe it's a local problem on your computer and not something with the current beta. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderatoritis: symptoms include swollen head and running mouth. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.36.3 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Daylight Saving Time
Hallo Tony, On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:41:47 -0100GMT (26-3-2012, 12:41 , where I live), you wrote: TH> We have just gone over to BST and now my new emails are showing that TH> they are created/received two hours into the future. It seems that the TH> offset has been added the wrong way. You do appear to have an offset listed the wrong way. -- Groetjes, Roelof I don't care! That's one of our moderators. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.36.2 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Daylight Saving Time
Hello Tbbeta, We have just gone over to BST and now my new emails are showing that they are created/received two hours into the future. It seems that the offset has been added the wrong way. Confirmations? -- Best regards, Tony mailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.36.3 (BETA) Current beta is 5.0.36.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
