Horizontal line between subject in subject thread

2005-05-26 Thread The Final Cut
Hello all,

Is it possible to get rid of the horizontal line between the subjects when you 
sort by subject thread?  I'd like to see 3.5.* to looks like 3.2.0.10.

Since I've never found a better way to sort mailing list, I only pick this 
threading method and now with the lines, I find it more bloated than anything 
else

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Re: Next Beta Series Request

2005-05-16 Thread The Final Cut
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Hello MAU

On Thursday, May 12, 2005, 10:44:40 AM +0400 GMT
You wrote:

M Hello 9Val,

M You can already select different colour for
M odd/even quotes, it has been
M that way for many many moons.

 For text colour - yes, but try to do it only for quotes background ;-)

M Ah, I see. The background, you guys were talking about background.

ThunderBird has this feature with an extention
This is very useful when there is many reply to the same email

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Re: Alternate Glyph for v3.5 available

2005-05-16 Thread The Final Cut
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Hello Miroslav Florensen

On Saturday, May 14, 2005, 12:18:25 PM +0400 GMT
You wrote:

MF Hello tbbeta,

MF the new version of the Minimal Design Glyph is completely rearranged,
MF and now completely adapted to the new GUI in
MF version v3.5. The icon set
MF is optimized and tested for Win98 SE, Win2k and WinXP. (no stages on
MF Win98/w2k)

MF If you would like to try them, please take a look at the readme file
MF before installing the icon set.

MF enjoy...


MF Preview: http://bat-mail.de.vu/minimal.html

MF Download [132 KB]:
MF http://thebat.orgavision.de/zip/minimal_batskin_v335.zip


I like the original 2.11 3d icons so much and that is something I miss the most 
from 3.2.0.10 version
Is it possible to still use the glyphs for any ways?

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC7 is now available

2005-05-11 Thread The Final Cut
Hello 9Val

On Tuesday, May 10, 2005, 2:58:07 PM +0400 GMT
You wrote:

9 Hi All,

9 The Bat! 3.5 Return RC7 is now available from:
9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

9 Here is a short list of changes:
9 [-] (#0004460) The Active Account Tray Menu option was not working
9 [-] Other : Bugs with priority and confirmation
9 settings in the Message Editor
9 [-] Other : Bold Outbox
9 [-] Other : Multi-sort storing
9 [-] Other : Size part is placed randomly
9 [-] Other : New thread sorting works incorrectly in reverse order
9 [-] Other : Esc doesn't reset filter in VF
9 [-] Other : Ctrl+Click doesn't follow in VF
9 [-] Other : Ctrl+G needs two presses to work
9 [-] Other : empty menus in some cases
9 [-] Other : Bugs with Quick Search/Message List filter under Win9x
9 [-] Other : Better behaviour of the new message list view control
9 [-] IMAP  : Copying to local folders
9 [-] Minor : costmetic issues

I always get a fatal error everytime I close RC7
I cant say if this was there before since this is the first 3.5 RC* version I 
try.

the picture of the fatal error is in attach

have any idea?

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC7 is now available

2005-05-11 Thread The Final Cut
Hello 9Val

On Wednesday, May 11, 2005, 3:00:10 PM  GMT
You wrote:

9 Hi The,  

TFC I always get a fatal error everytime I close RC7
TFC I cant say if this was there before since this
TFC is the first 3.5 RC* version I try.
TFC the picture of the fatal error is in attach
TFC have any idea?

9  Yes, that's plugin exception

indeed, found it was the nod32 plugin :(

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available

2005-05-04 Thread The Final Cut
Hello 9Val

On Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 2:23:59 PM +0400 GMT
You wrote:

9 Hi All,

9 The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available from:
9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

Does the subject-reference threading option still shows the first post bold 
even if all emais are read?

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC2 is now available

2005-05-04 Thread The Final Cut
Hello MAU

On Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 8:39:16 PM +0400 GMT
You wrote:

M Hello The,

 Does the subject-reference threading option still shows the first post bold
 even if all emais are read?

M As far as I can recall that was when threading by Subject only and the
M answer to your question is no, RC2 doesn't.

Well I've just tried it and yes it does yay!
But I really don't like icons
as I still use custom glyphs because I like small icons
So im back with 3.2.0.10



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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread The Final Cut
Hello 9Val

On Friday, April 29, 2005, 2:10:47 PM +0400 GMT
You wrote:

9 Hello All,

9 The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available from:
9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

9 Here is a short list of changes:
9 [-] Other : AV on saving view mode to newly created
9 [-] Other : mixing glyphs and new png
9 [-] Minor : improvements in account tree behaviour
9 [-] Minor : follow-up, selection and 'Open link' 
9 [-] mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
9   When you delete the last message of a folder in folder view, folder
9   view don't close automatically but stays open. (Bug because I don't
9   see the sense of empty folder view and it was auto closed in earlier
9   versions).
9 [-] mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
9   Status-bar pop-ups in Edit Mail Message window:
9 [-] mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
9   [View | Attached Files] after a restart always indicates
9   'Show as Pane' although the actual option used is 'Show as Button'.
9   In Main, View Folder and Message Finder windows.
9 [-] mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
9   In context menu of Folder View: Reply to All quoting selected text
9   is missing.
9   Also missing in context menu of the Main window and Message Finder
9   window.
9 [-] mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
9   Checkmarks in
9   [ View | Character set]
9   are not remembered between restarts.
9 [-] mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
9   'View folder' window [View | Memo auto view] menu:
9   Isn't correct updated, if you close memo auto view with ESC
9 [-] Moving the menu toolbar in the search Window, hangs the toolbar in
9 a wrong position

Ack, I still don't like it
The day the subject or reference sort threat will get rid of the bold for every 
first post, I'll switch
that bugs me a lot to have the primary email in bold even if all emails are read

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Re: 3.0.9.18 - Reordering Filters in NFS

2005-04-22 Thread The Final Cut
Hello Simon Fincham

On Friday, April 22, 2005, 5:53:23 PM +0400 GMT
You wrote:

  
SF Hello TBBeta,

SF I have noticed that if you wish to re-order
SF filters; using the up/down arrows if you attempt to move
SF a single filter past an open filter with associated
SF sub-filters displayed expanded it fails.  If the
SF sub-filters are not expanded, then the single filter
SF will correctly continue up the tree to it's new position.

Just an advice which im not sure 100%
but you shouldnt use html for email in this list

Someone correct me if im wrong
if so, sorry about that

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Re: My reasons to revert to 3.0.2.10

2005-04-19 Thread The Final Cut
Hello MAU

On Tuesday, April 19, 2005, 7:04:28 AM +0400 GMT
You wrote:

M Hello all,

M After deleting my existing tbuser.def and a couple of tweaks I find the
M last beta, v3.0.9.17 quite stable and would certainly like to use it all
M day long for my work, which is the way I like to test betas.

M However, quite unfortunately and as I think I have explained before in
M this list, the threading by Reference+Subject which was introduced with
M this beta series is a no-no for me and that forces me to revert all
M the way to 3.0.2.10.

M I know RIT guys intend to re-instate the possibility of threading by
M Reference _only_ (and hopefully allowing also Reference+Subject to
M satisfy everyone) and I can understand that this is not a high priority
M at this time for most users and therefore for RIT. But it does force
M me to use 3.0.2.10 during my works hours and I am sorry about it.

Same goes for me.  Some mailing list that I am subscribed just dont sort 
correctly.
Is there a buglist filled about that so I can put a vote or something.  I want 
to add my 2 cent

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return is now available

2005-03-31 Thread The Final Cut
Hello 9Val

On Thursday, March 31, 2005, at 3:04:06 PM
You wrote:

9 Hello All,

9 The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return is now available from:
9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

9 Here is a short list of changes:
9 [-] UI: ViewFrame migration finished
9 [-] Other : Un-delete
9 [-] Other : Shift+Reply button works
9 [-] Other : sometimes incorrect message follow
9 [-] UI: folder view has Next/Prev buttons 
9 [-] Other : AV if SmartPad is opened on program shutdown
9 [-] Other : Tray icon problems
9 [*] Other : QTemplates have editable shortcuts
9 [-] Other : Sometimes AV on viewing messages with PNG
9 [-] ABook : auto QSearch, minor fixes
9 [*] Editor: New font/background color selection 
9 [-] Minor : AV in finder, 'Quote' and 'Quote With Prefix'
9 [-] Minor : Overwrite/Insert is disabled in HTML
9 editor, HTML specific actions added to Format menu

I cannot disale toolbars in 3.0.9.11
I have installed it over 3.0.2.10
Should I do a clean install or this is a bug and it doesnt matter?

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return is now available

2005-03-31 Thread The Final Cut
Hello Roelof Otten

On Thursday, March 31, 2005, at 6:21:24 PM
You wrote:

RO Hallo The,

RO On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:08:31 -0500GMT (1-4-2005, 1:08 +0100, where I
RO live), you wrote:

F I cannot disale toolbars in 3.0.9.11

RO Not confirmed.
RO I hasd them disabled, but I can make the appear and disappear at will.

Should I backup my emails as .eml's and then clean registry and install the 
3.0.9.11 in a clean folder then?

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Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-28 Thread The Final Cut
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Hello Tony Boom

On Monday, February 28, 2005, at 4:31:12 AM
You wrote:

TB Poco is full of bugs, I bought it.

TB  Incredimail is adware/spyware, I bought it.

TB  Express plus is very, very basic, I bought it.

TB  Eudora is well, same as Incredimail, adware... Not bought that, don't like
TB  constrained windows :)

TB  No doubt about it, The Bat! even without pictures is by far the best of
TB  the bunch.


I was just mentioning that not all email clients dont have browser associated 
with ;)

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Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread The Final Cut
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Hello Tony Boom

On Sunday, February 27, 2005, at 1:04:51 PM
You wrote:

TB Also the reason I bowed out of the discussion. I want a bug free Bat
TB  before they make any new additions, they want html right now and Sod
TB  everyone else.


Didnt you say earlier in the threat that this feature has been requested for 
around 4 years?

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Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread The Final Cut
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Hello Tony Boom

On Sunday, February 27, 2005, at 3:01:31 PM
You wrote:

TB You laugh all you want but I have a wife and family whom I love very much
TB  and I'm certainly not going to put them at risk for the sake of a html
TB  argument, I'd rather go back to using Outlook Express.


hahahaha I hope you are not serious!


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Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-27 Thread The Final Cut
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Hello

On Sunday, February 27, 2005, at 5:03:35 PM
You wrote:

 The reason other players have good HTML support is that these
 other player also write browsers. They implement their browser into
  their e-mail product. Do I have anything against TB writing their
 own browser... Nope. Would I rather they spend the time making TB a
  better and more solid product for *e-mail*. Definitely.


Pocomail, incredimail, eurora, Express plus are all email clients that their 
programmers don't code browsers
they all have great html supports too!



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Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-26 Thread The Final Cut
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Hello tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com

On Saturday, February 26, 2005, at 11:33:51 AM
You wrote:

DC NetVicious wrote:
 The perfect option will be a button or something to load the images of
 the current mail. And this should be made manually every time.

DC That's what I suggested originally... And that works fine for me. (It's
DC also the default way of operating in Thunderbird).

indeed, check the original post
the threat is gone so far away eh

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Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-25 Thread The Final Cut
Hello Tony Boom

On Friday, February 25, 2005, at 3:29:32 AM
You wrote:

TB Nothing to do with closed minds. Most people on here chose TB!
TB  specifically because of it's inability to handle html. You go changing
TB  that and everyone will have to find another client.

Well that will make me keep Thunderbird and forget to buy a license of thebat 
for my wife and I

You must be kidding to think ppl would have to switch to another email client 
if thebat download images from web.

As mentionned _many_ times, that would work with a whitelist and the most 
important, the option would be disabled by default.




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Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-25 Thread The Final Cut
Hello Paul Van Noord

On Friday, February 25, 2005, at 6:49:57 AM
You wrote:

PVN Hi The,

PVN Some day you will experience circumstances that change your mind.
PVN Until then please continue using Thunderbird and allow TB to be what
PVN it was designed to be...a very powerful _and_ secure email client.
PVN Thunderbird has many peers. The Bat! has none! We do not want your
PVN ideas to destroy that!

1. I will continu to use thunderbird for sure
2. that was not my idea but damn this is a good one
3. peers? show me some and your sources

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Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-25 Thread The Final Cut
Hello Krzysztof Trybowski

On Friday, February 25, 2005, at 7:53:27 PM
You wrote:

KT Having  read  this  sentence, I don't know: should I laugh or should I
KT cry?  Believe  me, I, and many others, didn't choose TB because of its
KT inability  to  display  HTML  (which  was,  BTW, on a TO-DO list since
KT versions below 1.0)! We had some other and more important reasons. For
KT example,  possibility  to use more than one
KT account, templates, quotes
KT coloring.

KT Adding decent remote image support, will certainty not break anything.
KT TB!  will not be less secure. TB! will not be less stable. And it will
KT not  be  slower  (unless,  you  decide to download some remote images,
KT which  must  take  some  time, but it's irrelevant in your case, since
KT you'll just never use this option).

KT And  one  more thing. Please save me your
KT newcomers speech (which I,
KT BTW,  consider  relatively  rude). With quite high chances I'm on this
KT list  longer  than  you  are (or at least long enough to not be called
KT that  way).  And  even  if I were, it wouldn't change much. I'd rather
KT judge  people  on  what  they say and how they manage to justify their
KT claims  and not on their seniority on this or that list. And I require
KT others to do the same.



Couldn't be said in a better way!

The way the buglist wish is being asked, it's far away from being dangerous! 


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Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-25 Thread The Final Cut
Hello AC Martin

On Friday, February 25, 2005, at 7:58:29 PM
You wrote:

AM I'm using ThunderBird primarily. However, I'd much *prefer* using TB!
AM for a lot of reasons. While using ThunderBird, I've encountered
AM interesting features and approaches. Why not suggest them, especially
AM if I'm actually not happy with ThunderBird either and am far more
AM interested in TB! eventually really working for me, rather than
AM ThunderBird. I've chosen the lesser of two currently bad situations.
AM This is sad, considering that for years, I couldn't have cared less
AM about, and didn't really consider other clients.


That is exactly why I'm pushing for this wonderful feature that ThunderBird 
has, and has the right way to protect users.  Whitelist or having the email 
addy in your collected address book

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html whitelist wish

2005-02-24 Thread The Final Cut
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Hello all,

I hope I'm asking to the right list, but I'd like to know
if some of you are agree with this wishlist
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=1780

This is a great idea to compete with thunderbird and any email clients that 
actually download images from website
If I put thunderbird as exemple, you can choose to download images from address 
you have in personnal address book or in collected address book.

In my opinion, this is something very good and secure since you block all 
downloading images from untrusted sites by default!

I really hope this will be implemented in thebat so we can see mailing list in 
html format.  I personally received 3-4 emails everyday from differents 
websites such like jobs and news paper online

cheers

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Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-24 Thread The Final Cut
Hello Peter Meyns

  On 24 février 2005 at 22:18:20GMT +0100 (which was 16:18 where I live)
Peter Meyns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

PM I don't. Use a browser if you need content that wasn't sent along with
PM the message. The Bat! is an email client, not a browser. And I don't
PM want her to be.

that's all the reason for the whitelist and having the option to block by 
default
thunderbird isnt a web browser either ;)


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Re: Double PGP sig (was: html whitelist wish)

2005-02-24 Thread The Final Cut
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Hello Peter Meyns

  On 24 février 2005 at 22:25:32GMT +0100 (which was 16:25 where I live)
Peter Meyns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

PM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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PM Hi all,

PM on Thu, 24 Feb 2005 22:18:20 +0100GMT, I wrote a message that was
PM signed twice.

PM I don't know why this occurred. Maybe I should stick to GnuPG, but
PM the newer versions don't work from within TB!...

WFM

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Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-24 Thread The Final Cut
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Hello Cees

  On 24 février 2005 at 22:34:18GMT +0100 (which was 16:34 where I live)
Cees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

C AMEN to that!

C  If you want THAT kinda crap... use that bitch that's called Outlook Express!
C  Let's  keep  TheBat!  the decent email client it is and NOT change it into a
C  Microsoft Monster.

wow that's sad to see thebat users to closed mind :(

this an option that would be disabled by default


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Re: html whitelist wish

2005-02-24 Thread The Final Cut
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Hello Krzysztof Trybowski

  On 24 février 2005 at 23:29:14GMT +0100 (which was 17:29 where I live)
Krzysztof Trybowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

KT I  absolutely  agree.  This will perhaps happen one day. The only pain
KT is,  if  it  will be done in a sensible way. I think this should be an
KT action  that  would  only be executed when some certain conditions are
KT met.  For  example when the sender is in
KT addressbook. It could also be
KT an action in sorting office or an option if a context menu. I doubt if
KT there should be a system-wide switch for that. And I think there could
KT be  some sort of filename matching with a
KT black-list, so that external
KT image  of  suspicious names would be by default treated with even more
KT caution.

KT Regards


Yup, having thebat to block all images by default and having a whitelist or 
allowing address from a particular folder in your address book would be awsome

downloading images from web is far from being a security issue this way

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