Re: Voyager 3.64.02
Hello Roelof... On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:10:55 +0100, you wrote: Hallo steverio2k, On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 17:27:01 -0800GMT (4-1-2006, 2:27 +0100, where I live), you wrote: S For me, for some reason, TBV does not associate itself with a mailto: S by setting preferences there in the program. Even so, it does not list S itself in the registry as a recognized mail client. In order for IE6 TBV isn't supposed to list itself in the registry whatsoever. It should leave the registry alone. Therefore it should not be able to install itself as the default mail client. The only thing that's wrong is that it offers the (non-functioning) option to do so. The preferences for this should be deleted, but I guess their presence has something to do with the similarity in code between TB and TBV. Thank you for confirming that. Leaving no registry traces is the way to go. -- steverio TB!v3.64.01 Christmas Edition TBV!v3.64.02 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager and Gmail
Hello Christina... On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:32:39 +, you wrote: Hello, I have several Gmail accounts and they all work very well with TB! I am now starting to use Voyager in my USB key. All my other accounts function properly, at least to download (I haven't sent any messages yet). However, I couldn't connect to my Gmail accounts. I used the same configuration I have in TB!, so I don't see why Voyager wouldn't work. Are there any known issues related to this? I used to have GMail in TBV and it connected as well as TB, that is, intermittently. I could not connect during some times such as peak Internet use. GMail was slower to connect than my ISP POP accounts. It was frustrating for me but OK for someone who doesn't mind waiting or checking back. I can't condemn the service...it's free! :) -- steverio TB!v3.64.01 Christmas Edition TBV!v3.64.02 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Re[2]: Voyager and Gmail
Maria... On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 16:35:23 +, you wrote: Hi steverio, On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 08:13:43 -0800GMT (04-01-2006, 16:13, where I live), you wrote: I used to have GMail in TBV and it connected as well as TB, that is, intermittently. I could not connect during some times such as peak Internet use. GMail was slower to connect than my ISP POP accounts. It was frustrating for me but OK for someone who doesn't mind waiting or checking back. I can't condemn the service...it's free! :) Altering the server timeout could fix my problem then? It may. Actually I don't have delays in TB! The 2 clients behave differently to me. This is fortunate for you. -- steverio TB!v3.64.01 Christmas Edition TBV!v3.64.02 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Re[2]: Voyager 3.64.02
Hi Vitalie... On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 15:29:12 +0200, you wrote: Hello steverio, Saturday, December 31, 2005, 1:14:26 AM, you wrote: Registering TBV for default email client lacks the approriate keys and values in the registry. Glad to hear from you again...wonderful! :) huh, does it need at all the ability to be registered as such? good question, eh? For me, for some reason, TBV does not associate itself with a mailto: by setting preferences there in the program. Even so, it does not list itself in the registry as a recognized mail client. In order for IE6 to open TBV from a mailto: I have to edit and register the URL:MailTo Protocol file type to open with TBV. Then make sure TBV is accessible when I use a mailto:. however nonsense it may seem at first, Portable Firefox, for example, does have this functionality and i use it quite frequently. from my observations, it comes equally as handy as it brings enough annoyance as well: if it would be default only for the period it is running; when i close it, let it revert to what was before, it would be perfect. From what I understand, FF will open whatever the system default mail client is set at. I haven't used the portable FF to give an opinion about it's mailto: capabilities. The annoyances about it that you speak of? Have you tried the Launchy extension? It works great for mailto: control on FF non-portable. i would like to hear a list of your proscons on this subject here as well. As I would yours and others when we can find time. :) Maybe having a U3 compatible version of TB too is something to consider for the future? -- steverio TB!v3.64.01 Christmas Edition TBV!v3.64.02 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.64.02
Hello Prezes... On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 11:42:20 +0100, you wrote: Hello, CR Good ! could it also be possible to remove all the un needed options CR of the preferences/applications section ? Remove all preferences/application section - there is only one needed element: to ask about default e-mail client. This entry should be moved to general tab. Registering TBV for default email client lacks the approriate keys and values in the registry. -- steverio TB!v3.64.01 Christmas Edition TBV!v3.64.02 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Need help about the Agava anti-spamServant plugin
Claude... On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:41:32 +0100, you wrote: Hi, I'm currently trialling the Agava antispam plugin with TBV. IT seems to be quite efficient but I encounter just a little problem. As tbv, I thought this plugin could work portably. But even if I could install it with no problem on my USB key, I noticed that the relative antispam training data are stored on my C drive under C:\Documents and Settings\Claude Renaud\Application Data\AGAVA TBP. Does someone know if there is a setting to adjust in order to store those data in a custum directory ? You are pretty much tied with the data folder being where it is in (Documents and Settings). AGAVA data installs to disk:\Documents and Settings\user\Application Data\AGAVA TBP by default in windows. -- steverio TB!v3.64.01 Christmas Edition TBV!v3.64.01 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Reply button submenu is empty
Zygmunt... On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 08:31:11 +0100, you wrote: Interesting. I checked this on two other computers without OTFE (on Windows XP and Windows 95) and quick templates menu is available on Reply button. Maybe the problem is caused by OTFE mode? Maybe so but then having no problems with OTFE being used by at least two users who posted here so far. -- steverio TB!v3.64.01 Christmas Edition TBV!v3.64 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Jumping headers when filling the TO field
Alexander... On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 11:40:58 +0100, you wrote: OK, I found it. Its the font size that matters. Tahoma 8, 9 and 10 are no problem. Tahoma size 11 makes the lines jump up down by one pixel. Segoe UI sizes 8 and 9 are no problem either, but here it starts to jump at size 10. Please, anyone, try to open Options / Preferences / Messages / Header Layout and set the font to Tahoma 11, or some other font, using a larger size. I added a note to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5520 Confirmed...Tahoma size 11 makes the lines jump while typing the address manually. Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: Jumping headers when filling the TO field)
Hello Roelof... On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 21:05:59 +0100, you wrote: ...moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out steverio2k. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages Thank you. It was a user error while configuring Agent. -- steverio TB!v3.64.01 Christmas Edition TBV!v3.64 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [3.64.01] Reply button submenu is empty
Hello Zygmunt... On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 22:25:11 +0100, you wrote: Hello all! Use of quick templates from Reply button submenu is impossible in TB! 3.64.01. Reply button submenu should contain a list of templates that have checked Use for Reply messages option. Unfortunately, the list is empty, despite of the option is checked. It contains only one general item Quick Templates. A bug report has been prepared: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5523 My TB doesn't confirm this. QT designated list is available on sub menu. -- steverio TB!v3.64.01 Christmas Edition TBV!v3.64 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Reply button submenu is empty
Zygmunt... On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 23:54:12 +0100, you wrote: Did you checked this on 'Reply' button? Several users confirmed that only this button menu is corrupted. 'Create a new message' button has correct submenu. For some reason, I do not have this issue. -- steverio TB!v3.64.01 Christmas Edition TBV!v3.64 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Jumping headers when filling the TO field
Alexander... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:46:21 +0100, you wrote: With v3.64.01, when I start a new message and fill the TO field with text (typing the address manually), the headers below it are jumping up and down one pixel with each keystroke. When I tab down into the message body, the headers jump down one last time and then stay fixed, even if I tab back up into the headers. Confirmations? My TB doesn't confirm this. Video Card is nVidya GeForce 6800 -- steverio TB!v3.64.01 Christmas Edition TBV!v3.64 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: History entries can't be deleted with Del key since 3.64 version with new header control
Marek... On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:58:56 +0100, you wrote: Hello, When I create new message, click to Subject field, hit Alt+DownArrow and hit Del to delete entry in list box, nothing happens. Bugtraq: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5517 My TB confirms this. -- steverio TB!v3.64.01 Christmas Edition TBV!v3.64 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is NONE | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Christmas Edition
Hello again Mary... On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 13:27:05 -0600, you wrote: Hello RitLabs Development Team (and all my fellow beta testers here) ! Finally I'm able to send and receive messages here once more. I appreciate that and don't I know it too! :) I just want to say that I appreciate the bag of Christmas goodies the Blue Bat showed me on the splash screen and I appreciate the improvements that have been incorporated, after all our hard work as beta testers, into this latest full release. The Bat's fat and I'm happy! Merry Christmas and happy holidays to everyone who reads me here, and may there be happy days all over the world, especially at your homes and at mine, and at The Bat!'s pole in Chisinau! :chisinau: Cheers! :batwine: Thank you! Cheers! -- steverio TB!v3.64.01 Christmas Edition TBV!v3.64 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Help File
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 15:43:38 +0200, you wrote: Hello Tbbeta, Please download The Bat! help file written by Dierk Haasis and Marck Pearlstone http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/the_bat_v3_hlp.rar This help differs significantly from previous helps, and I like it much. We will include this help file into the next version of The Bat! Your ideas about this help are very welcome. Please also click F1 throughtout all The Bat! If you'll find a missing topic or if an irrelevant topic will suddently open, please let us know. Thank you for the great work Dierk and Marck! -- steverio TB!v3.64.01 TBV!v3.64 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
OT:TB List message retrieval still not working since 12/19
Thanks Marck for checking. I found that at least I can post only. Comcast has no comments. Separating the wheat from the chaff ... -- steverio TB!v3.64.01 TBV!v3.64 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.63.13 is totally UNUSABLE for me
Hello MAU... On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:29:57 +0100, you wrote: Hello all, Back all the way to 3.62.14 Me too! Seems like v3.62.14 is a reliable vintage for me. I've reverted back to it with every beta since. Now I wish there was a TBV version that matched v3.62.14! -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.09 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: (no subject)
Hello Mary... On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:34:18 -0600, you wrote: Thanks anyway for the hard work, 9Val and team. :) I second that! Not all betas are gleaming like diamonds for everyone. I'm looking forward to see some more TB gems! :) -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.09 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
beta 3.63.12-13 no AB popup when clicking fields
Has this been changed in the betas? This does not happen in v3.62.14. Anyone confirm this? Upon addressing a new message, I can now *only* open the AB via the icon across from the field. The popup AB window does not appear now when I click any addressing fields (TO;, BCC:, CC:) -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.09 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP - 3.63.12 Still not sowing correct number of messages
Stuart... On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:36:24 -0600, you wrote: Hello tbbeta, As can be seen in the screenshot the count in my IMAP folders still does not make any sense at all in this latest beta that promised IMAP as the main thing to be fixed. I actually have 57 messages in the trash and yet it reports 12. I seem to have no unread messages in The Bat folder and yet there are actually 2 Unread. It says there are 942 messages in there, but if I select all the messages there are actually 4234 messages. The Inbox shows as bold even though there are no messages Unread in it and there is no indication that any messages are Unread in any folder. Most of the messages that are adding to the TB folder seem to be duplicates and is probably what got my Fastmail account shut down the other day. They gave me another 20MB of bandwidth to help me solve the problem. Do you suppose there is any way that is going to happen before I get kicked off again. :( FWIW... I don't know if you have had these message count issues with the latest non-beta...I don't. But I have only a few messages. You have many. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.09 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Re[2]: IMAP - 3.63.12 Still not sowing correct number of messages
Stuart... On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:22:59 -0600, you wrote: Hello steverio, A reminder of what steverio typed on: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 at 16:16:24 GMT -0800 s FWIW... s I don't know if you have had these message count issues with the s latest non-beta...I don't. But I have only a few messages. You have s many. Yes, I can't remember when they started. I have been trying to test the betas but they seem to be getting too erratic and I may have to drop back to a stable version. Yes, reverting back is what I have done. I still try betas out but not for long if they cause enough problems. I'll wait til those are fixed then stay with a new beta if bugs are minor. Of course if all the IMAP testers do this, then how will we know when it actually gets fixed. ;) Good point! :) Hopefully, more IMAP bug fixes will come soon! -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.09 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?
Maxim... On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:27:58 +0200, you wrote: We cal alter the outbox protection feature to automatically mark all messages copied to the outbox as draft. This will save from accidentally sending them. You will have to explicitly unpark them to send them out. For an alternative end solution instead of having a Drafts folder, I think your suggestion here is a good one. It is something that would still be characteristic of TB's style and not be another standard Drafts folder as some other email clients offer. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.09 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: better identification of issues in subject
Dwight... On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:13:39 -0600, you wrote: There are a number of separate sets of issues these days in beta testing: most notably OFTE, IMAP, POP, and Voyager. Since I don't use OFTE and have stopped using POP, there is generally no use in reading about those bugs, although some POP reports I can go back and test. I notice again this morning OFTE threads which aren't clearly identified as such in the header, and sometimes it isn't even clear in the message itself. I also have a complaint about the long threads which grow from the Beta number x is now available, when we would all be better served if each individual issue became it's own thread. Just my two pence. OK...I agree that it would be more easily to distinguish individual issues. Normally I would this and I do it elsewhere. I am new to this list and I should of added my latest IMAP *bizarre* issue with beta .09 separately instead of following the pack. Now it will become lost in a sea of an identical subject title. :( -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.07 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
TBV 3.63.09 IMAP auto-disconnect timer broken
As with TB 3.63..betas so far, IMAP server sessions remain open with the auto-disconnect timer ticked. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.09 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager Installer
Maxim... On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 01:43:22 +0200, you wrote: Hello Tbbeta, We've made installer program for the Voyager which prompts the user the destination drive where to copy Voyager files. Here it is: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/voyager_install.exe There weren't many changes since last update of Voyager: [-] IMAP: duplication problem [-] (#0005407) Filters on Message source don't work (beta issue) [-] (#0005432) Password-protected account was left unlocked after creation of a new message. [-] When there were no drive C:\ available in the system, Windows Folder selection dialog didn't contain icons. Installed correctly to my USB -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.09 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager Installer
Clive... On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 08:53:01 +, you wrote: There weren't many changes since last update of Voyager: Pity. I don't see anything that resolves my inability to even install the programme in the first place. Tis a pity! I hope you can get a complete activation key to enter into the field. I noticed you remarked on an earlier post that you kept on getting the message activation key should be 104 characters long. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.09 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.09 and the Outbox Protection Feature
Maxim... On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 04:11:46 +0200, you wrote: Hello Tbbeta, We've implemented Outbox Protection Feature. It is currently OFF by default. If you add Registry DWORD Value CopyToOutboxProhibited=1 to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!, The Bat! will prohibit copying messages to Outbox from other folders. You will be only able to foward, redirect, etc. messages, which will lead to creation of new messages in Outbox, but you will not be able to copy (or move) messages to Outbox. When this option is ON, and you click Copy to folder menu item, the Outbox folder is not shown in the list. Also, if you try to use Drag-And-Drop to copy messages to Outbox, the cursor gets prohibited shape. Please let us know whether it should be ON by default. We have some reports from corporate users that being able to drag and drop messages to outbox folder and have them sent is a potentially very dangerous feature for corporate users. The new beta URL http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb36309.rar This beta is not usable to me. It caused my IMAP account and folders to disappear from sight in TB and an old deleted POP account was resurrected with it's folders that I had stored in TB's mail directory! Needless to say, I backed out quickly before testing anything further. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.07 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Re[7]: New spam - bayes filters not working
RMorris... On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 20:26:37 -0600, you wrote: Regula is very aggressive=had to set all my filters to the 'over ride' option just to get my normal mail to their folders. Trained it with 3000 spams and 2000 hams=after resetting filters=zero spams. All went to each spam folder. Ingore tagline as avaga is turned off. I wish the Regula help section was in English. I have a hard time understanding it even using Babel Fish so I gave up. TB filters saved a few hams otherwise Regula labeled them spam in the filter log. I don't know why. Thanks for the input. I'll be groping around for now. :) -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.07 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: New spam - bayes filters not working
Hello On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:18:44 +0100, you wrote: On 05-12-08 (09:47), you wrote: I have tried to teach both bayesit and bayes filter but Try AGAVA AntispamServant - works like charm. :) Best regards, Krzysztof Kud³acik I have AGAVA and it is not totally effective against image-type spam. I have trained many of these type (a few hundred) and it still remains that some get through. Believe it or not but the email spam rules that nail them good is in Outlook 2003. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.07 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: New spam - bayes filters not working
Hello Fabio... On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 09:47:41 +0100, you wrote: I am recently receiving a new kind of spam. Spammers instead of writing a text inside the email are attaching a gif file containing the ad and the product image. The subject and the text of the email are always changing and also the name of the attachment is always changing. I have tried to teach both bayesit and bayes filter but after a month the spam is still passing through the filters. I suppose this is because the ad is inside the image and cannot be read by the filter that only reads the subject and the text (that is randomly chosed). Anyone having the same problem and any suggested solution? Maybe new to you but have been around for awhile I'm afraid. To me these image-type spam seem to fool the Bayesian filters. With the TB anti-spam plug-ins, I have had the best results with AGAVA but not totally effective. Some of this spam types still get through and makes you wonder. Adding a TB filter action derived from something common from the message source of your spam which might be like* Message Source contains Content-Type: image/gif;* works for me but possibly could some nail legitimate email. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.07 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: New spam - bayes filters not working
Hello Krzyszto... On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:18:44 +0100, you wrote: On 05-12-08 (09:47), you wrote: I have tried to teach both bayesit and bayes filter but Try AGAVA AntispamServant - works like charm. :) Best regards, Krzysztof Kud³acik To add to my previous post to you: If you are getting totally effective image-type spam control with AGAVA TB plug-in, please, if you wish, tell me any information you use such as spam score setting, how many trained image-type spam have been marked, etc. Thanks -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.07 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Re[2]: The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) is now available
Stuart... On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 08:02:23 -0600, you wrote: Hello Krzysztof, Thursday, December 8, 2005, 1:51:45 AM, you wrote: KK Not confirmed - here: Imap/Exchange - every refresh of folder makes KK duplictaes of last fetched messages. Confirmed as not working here as well. Also the message counts are all over the place. In this v3.63.08 both refresh and counts worked for me. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.07 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Re[5]: New spam - bayes filters not working
Hello RMorris... On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 19:56:38 -0600, you wrote: Hello All, I downloaded Regula and it really works. What AGAVA does not get regula does. I usually get 200-300 spams a day between 6 mailboxes. The 'new' type of spam agava seems to have a hard time picking up,regula does not. Regula seems to be (IMO) unuser friendly,but it works. I got a little over 300 spams today=everyone sent to their respected junk folder. I gave up a long time ago on bayesit,it just quits working. Bayes does good but it quits working after awhile. I bought agava when it came out=still [EMAIL PROTECTED] 80%=but it works. The down side is=zero updates,very un-user friendly,interface is very cheesy. I set regula up to do bayes filtering=will see in about 3-5 days if it really works,as I will turn avaga off on rely on regula to really see what happens. IMO=regula is great just have to babblefish the web pages to get it in english (wonder if I can get the author to speak Texan=pipedream,just hoping)and it needs better support. Thanks for the interesting comments on Regula. Please drop a note later when you find out more from testing the bayesian filters. Talk about anti-spam plug-in's for TB is not kept very active and usually are very brief. Look for the next version of AGAVA to be further improved too. This is what I was told upon inquiry. I have not heard of any future plans with BayesIt or BayesFilter for quite awhile. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.07 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
v3.63.08 IMAP autodisconnect timer still not working
I know this has been brought up before but not much have been said about it except in the past archives...something about some IMAP servers not recognizing the disconnect command for some users. This is not so in my case. I use fastmail for IMAP. As I posted before TBv3.62.14 worked perfectly with the disconnect timer option. Now with TBv3.63.08 and 09 it does not. I have to manually close the connection centre each time I start TB or if I check mail on my POP accounts. Sure... I can hide the connection centre but then I cannot use the message dispatcher as before. The only alternative I've found is manually disconnect from the IMAP each time I check for mail or revert back to TBv3.62.14. It is quite annoying! I see no mention of this so I think it must be just me? Can anyone shed some more light on this? -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.07 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Confirmation dialog at the end of spell check when sending
Hello Ian... On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 06:55:51 +1100, you wrote: Hi, I don't know if others feel the same way, but I find the confirmation dialog at the end a spell check (particularly) when sending a message very annoying. It is not as though you can do anything other than pick OK. It can also have other side effects. The other day I was reporting abuse to an ISP and I quoted the entire message (headers and all). Needless to say I got quite tired of waiting for each spelling error to pop up and so I simply kept picking with the mouse on where the ignore all was. Of course in the end I picked where there was no dialog and strangely the message went through without the attachment (I discovered this later). Then when I closed The Bat!, I found that the spell check completion alert was still there, and so was the message waiting to be sent. I thought that something had happened to stop it being sent, so I sent it again. This time it went through with the attachment as well. Can this alert be optional with spell check before sending? As I said, it is not as though anything can be done other than pick OK. I never use the *Check before send/queue* option because it too distracting for me. I use the *Automatic Checking* as you type option instead. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.07 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager - QuickTemplate Error
Hello Nick... On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 09:34:15 -0600, you wrote: Hello again, When I try to add/edit a quick template I get the following error: Ancestor for 'TBXPopupMenu' not found. Ideas? Thanks, I can't confirm this. It's working for me. No ideas. -- steverio TB! Voyager v3.63.07 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: A TBV preference question
Hello Claude... On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 16:26:03 +0100, you wrote: Hi, When we select to check one of several checkboxes on the preferences/applications/Associate The Bat! Voyager with specific file types/URLs, their state are not saved in the global.ini setting file, why ? Do you confirm this ? This doesn't seem to work for me either. TBV doesn't remember the checked boxes. I don't see any reference in the ini. -- steverio TB!v3.63.07 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager 3.63.07 IMAP auto-disconnect from server setting not working
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 23:01:09 -0800, you wrote: I find that the IMAP account setting under Mail Management *When inactive, disconnect after...* does not work. There is no *session finished* listed in the IMAP account log. The IMAP session on the server appears to remain active once initialized unless you manually use the *Disconnect from server* command then it is listed in the account log. An update to add: When IMAP session is activated, the *Connection Centre* stays open and doesn't close unless manually doing so. -- steverio TB! Voyager 3.63.07 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager Price
Hello Paul... On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 20:59:43 -0500, you wrote: Thanks Max! I hope this appropriately places a cork where needed by those lacking objectivity. I appreciate your efforts! For seven years TB! has done for me what no other email client is capable of doing. If we were all perfect why would they put erasers on pencils and why do they make replacement erasers? Thanks again. Yes, likewise...good show Ritlabs! -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Voyager 3.63.07 IMAP auto-disconnect from server setting not working
Hello all... I find that the IMAP account setting under Mail Management *When inactive, disconnect after...* does not work. There is no *session finished* listed in the IMAP account log. The IMAP session on the server appears to remain active once initialized unless you manually use the *Disconnect from server* command then it is listed in the account log. -- steverio TB! Voyager v3.63.07 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
v3.63.06 - IMAP session remains active despite disconnect setting checked
Hello All... Just joined in at Tbudl and Tbbeta. The IMAP account setting under Mail Management *When inactive, disconnect after 1 seconds* is checked for me but the IMAP server session remains active and will not finish unless I manually disconnect from the server. It appears broken in this beta. I didn't have this problem with v3.62.14 final. I reverted back to it for now. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
