Re[2]: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
2/25/2008 12:50 PM Hi Jens, On 2/24/2008 Jens Franik wrote: JF Could somebody set up a knowledge base or wiki for the best JF tips and quirks for The-Bat! I learned them from reading the menus. - -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current beta is 4.0.14.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
Hello, folks! Just curious for a better understanding: If in Options|Viewer/Editor|Editor preferences Auto-wrap is *activated* for MicroEd, is it supposed to work also with pasted text or not? I know that auto-wrap causes automatic line breaks, if one types text manually, but how is this feature supposed to work with pasted text? Thanks in advance! Cheers! VA - -- QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] — Date: 2008-02-24 Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 4.0.14.5 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2. »He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy« Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
Hello Volker, If in Options|Viewer/Editor|Editor preferences Auto-wrap is activated for MicroEd, is it supposed to work also with pasted text or not? No. Although I know you don't like it, your only option is 'Edit/Paste formatted' (Shift+Ctrl+Ins) or a 'Ctrl+L' after a normal paste. I know that auto-wrap causes automatic line breaks, if one types text manually, but how is this feature supposed to work with pasted text? It doesn't affect pasted text. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
[Reply to: »MAU« · 2008-02-24 · 20:49 h (CET)] Hello, MAU! I know that auto-wrap causes automatic line breaks, if one types text manually, but how is this feature supposed to work with pasted text? It doesn't affect pasted text. Why is it so? Either auto-wrap is enabled and *all* text — manually typed or pasted — will cause an automatic line break at the defined right margin (70 characters or so). Or it is disabled and no text will wrapped at all. I do not understand in *this* case, where the difference between typed and pasted text should be. Who can enlighten me? :-) BTW: Your signature delimiter seems to be broken (see below): -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Cheers! VA - -- QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] — Date: 2008-02-24 Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 4.0.14.5 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2. »Infinity itself looks flat and uninteresting. Looking up into the night sky is looking into infinity — distance is incomprehensible and therefore meaningless.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy« Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
Hello Volker, It doesn't affect pasted text. Why is it so? Because that's the way RIT guys designed it, that's all. BTW: Your signature delimiter seems to be broken (see below): Yes, I can see it now. I wonder why. It looks ok in the editor window, let's see what happens with this one. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
No. Although I know you don't like it, your only option is 'Edit/Paste formatted' (Shift+Ctrl+Ins) or a 'Ctrl+L' after a normal paste. What does [ctrl] L do again? I forget -- Is the message delimiter bug fixed yet? -- Rick Are we in the Post-Bush era yet? v4.0.14.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
Hello Rick, No. Although I know you don't like it, your only option is 'Edit/Paste formatted' (Shift+Ctrl+Ins) or a 'Ctrl+L' after a normal paste. What does [ctrl] L do again? I forget Sorry :( I meant to say 'Alt+L'. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
[Reply to: »MAU« · 2008-02-24 · 21:32 h (CET)] It doesn't affect pasted text. Why is it so? Because that's the way RIT guys designed it, that's all. HARHARHAR! :-D This one will get a top ranking in my personal Top-Ten of feeblest arguments in TBB Mailing List! If everybody here and at RITLabs would think this way, e.g. we would never have an optional download of external images in HTML messages nor would we have a HTML editor in The Bat!. SCNR … Cheers! VA - -- QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] — Date: 2008-02-24 Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 4.0.14.5 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2. »Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »Last Chance to See« Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
[Reply to: »Rick Grunwald« · 2008-02-24 · 21:50 h (CET)] Hello, Rick! What does [ctrl] L do again? I forget Re-format text left aligned. Cheers! VA - -- QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] — Date: 2008-02-24 Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 4.0.14.5 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2. »You live and learn. At any rate, you live.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001) Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
2/24/2008 4:38 PM Hi Volker, On 2/24/2008 Volker Ahrendt wrote: VA Because it is *inconsistent*: Either auto-wrap is enabled and *all* VA text — manually typed or pasted — will cause an automatic line break VA or it is disabled and no text will wrapped at all. It may be inappropriate to reformat pasted text. Especially when someone is attempting to convey a graphic as text. When I paste and want to reformat I automatically go [ALT][L]. If I am slow it takes 1/2 second to do it. - -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
Hello all, Sunday, February 24, 2008, Volker Ahrendt wrote: Because that's the way RIT guys designed it, that's all. HARHARHAR! :-D This one will get a top ranking in my personal Top-Ten of feeblest arguments in TBB Mailing List! If everybody here and at RITLabs would think this way, e.g. we would never have an optional download of external images in HTML messages nor would we have a HTML editor in The Bat!. You have pasting formatted optionable, so what is wrong? And about downloading images, what is not optionable? You have problem to disable opening URL manager automatically? -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.14.5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.7 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
[Reply to: »Marek Mikus« · 2008-02-24 · 22:21 h (CET)] Because that's the way RIT guys designed it, that's all. If everybody here and at RITLabs would think this way, e.g. we would never have an optional download of external images in HTML messages nor would we have a HTML editor in The Bat!. You have pasting formatted optionable, so what is wrong? Because it is *inconsistent*: Either auto-wrap is enabled and *all* text — manually typed or pasted — will cause an automatic line break or it is disabled and no text will wrapped at all. And about downloading images, what is not optionable? You have problem to disable opening URL manager automatically? I do not have any problems with it. It was just an example (see above)! ;-) Cheers! VA - -- QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] — Date: 2008-02-24 Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 4.0.14.5 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2. »The story so far: In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001) »The Restaurant at the End of the Universe« Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
Hello all, Sunday, February 24, 2008, Volker Ahrendt wrote: I do not have any problems with it. It was just an example (see above)! ;-) sorry, I do not uderstand why we are discussing hypothesis here then... -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.14.5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.7 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
Hello Volker, Because that's the way RIT guys designed it, that's all. HARHARHAR! :-D This one will get a top ranking in my personal Top-Ten of feeblest arguments in TBB Mailing List! Only at the top? I thought it would be even higher. ;) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
[Reply to: »Paul Van Noord« · 2008-02-24 · 22:42 h (CET)] Hello, Paul! Because it is *inconsistent*: Either auto-wrap is enabled and *all* text — manually typed or pasted — will cause an automatic line break or it is disabled and no text will wrapped at all. It may be inappropriate to reformat pasted text. Especially when someone is attempting to convey a graphic as text. When I paste and want to reformat I automatically go [ALT][L]. If I am slow it takes 1/2 second to do it. Yes, that's how I have handled it for 7 years, but with 4.0.x.x a bug appeared: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6842 (Title: Problem with [alt]+[L] in MicroEd) The/My main problem is Step 2[*] of the bug description, but this looong discussion already started with Step 1 and ended in a closed/unresolved issue and this thread. *) I have a problem with MicroEd when I paste unformatted text: […] 2. After [alt]+[L] the line breaks are okay, but beginning of the lines are not visible and a useless horizontal scrollbar occurs. […] I think, I am going round in circles in this matter. ;-) Good night! VA - -- QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] — Date: 2008-02-24 Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 4.0.14.5 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2. »Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy« Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Signature delimiter bug (was: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap)
Hello Rick, On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:50:17 -0500 GMT (25/02/2008, 03:50 +0700 GMT), Rick Grunwald wrote: RG Is the message delimiter bug fixed yet? What bug (number / URL)? Sig delimiter works fine here. -- Cheers, Thomas. When you breath, you inspire. When you do not breath, you expire. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.14.5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
Guten Tag Marek Mikus, am Sonntag, 24. Februar 2008 um 22:21 schrieben Sie: And about downloading images, what is not optionable? You have problem to disable opening URL manager automatically? The Design of the URL-Manager is still a dunge-hill (sorry). - you can't see which URL belongs to actual message - you can't use rules to allow/forbid (eMail tracking Links) - you don't have option to disable it - no options how you would like to use it - (download all now - WIP) The Design maybe was an drawing of the RAW Window, but not an technological reflection. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.14.5 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
Guten Tag MAU, am Sonntag, 24. Februar 2008 um 22:06 schrieben Sie: No. Although I know you don't like it, your only option is 'Edit/Paste formatted' (Shift+Ctrl+Ins) or a 'Ctrl+L' after a normal paste. Sorry I meant to say 'Alt+L'. Big :beer: to MAU, you saved my futher life again!! Always i paste Text into Mails, i do format it with going behind and pressing space to activate line-wrap. And only one ALT-L does it now :-O Could somebody set up a knowledge base or wiki for the best tips and quirks for The-Bat! -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.14.5 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
On Sunday, February 24, 2008, 3:42:21 PM, Paul Van Noord wrote: It may be inappropriate to reformat pasted text. Especially when someone is attempting to convey a graphic as text. or a really long URL -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.14.5 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
Hello Jens, No. Although I know you don't like it, your only option is 'Edit/Paste formatted' (Shift+Ctrl+Ins) or a 'Ctrl+L' after a normal paste. Sorry I meant to say 'Alt+L'. Big :beer: to MAU, you saved my futher life again!! Always i paste Text into Mails, i do format it with going behind and pressing space to activate line-wrap. RTFM my friend, RTFM! From Help/Writing Mail/Automatic text formatting ,- [ ] | Reformat on the fly | | To reformat your text while typing, use key strokes: | · Alt+L - Left-align | · Alt+C - Centre | · Alt+R - Right-align | · Alt+J - Justify `- :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
Hello Jens, And only one ALT-L does it now :-o Could somebody set up a knowledge base or wiki for the best tips and quirks for The-Bat! http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-index.php -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
