Re: 10.1.0.2 - The Bat! (32bit) blocks start of Libreoffice 7.3.5.2 x64 / Win 11 21H2
Hello Jernej, > I've got another program with the same symptoms as LibreOffice: Asp32, a very > old (last release in 2002) dictionary program from Slovenia. It appears the problem with no-start is gone when a single process CEF is used by The Bat!. So, most probably CEF and those apps with problems are trying to use same resources simultaneously. I've found some mentions of hardware acceleration, but I don't believe a dictionary program from 2002 would need it at all :) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2 - The Bat! (32bit) blocks start of Libreoffice 7.3.5.2 x64 / Win 11 21H2
On Monday, September 5, 2022, 16:55:36, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > The problem is that we have no idea what Libre Office is trying to do and > what exactly prevents it from starting. Presumably, they try to exclusively > lock some resource which is also used by CEF, but we have zero knowledge of > resources used by Libre Office. On the other hand, LO is the only software > that is suffering, we did not receive reports about similar problems in other > software. Thus, we'll have to wait for LO team findings... I've got another program with the same symptoms as LibreOffice: Asp32, a very old (last release in 2002) dictionary program from Slovenia. With either LibreOffice or Asp32, when I run them, they freeze at splash screen. If I exit The Bat, they finish loading; or I can click the splash screen a few times to get the "This program is not responding" dialog from Windows, where I can kill the program, then if I run the program again, it'll finish loading. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > People are always available for work in the past tense. -- Zymurgy's Law of Volunteer Labour TheBat! Version 10.1.0.2 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2 - The Bat! (32bit) blocks start of Libreoffice 7.3.5.2 x64 / Win 11 21H2
Hello, Gwen> if dound a starnge bug where The Bat! 32bit block start of LibreOffice Please enable the option "Run CEF Browser in a single process" under the menu "Options\Preferences\General" and see whether that make any difference. -- Alexander Petrari Ritlabs, SRL 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2 - The Bat! (32bit) blocks start of Libreoffice 7.3.5.2 x64 / Win 11 21H2
Hello Gwen, >The troublemaker is THe Bat! CEF browser. > >See urgent bug report: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2208 The problem is that we have no idea what Libre Office is trying to do and what exactly prevents it from starting. Presumably, they try to exclusively lock some resource which is also used by CEF, but we have zero knowledge of resources used by Libre Office. On the other hand, LO is the only software that is suffering, we did not receive reports about similar problems in other software. Thus, we'll have to wait for LO team findings... -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2 - The Bat! (32bit) blocks start of Libreoffice 7.3.5.2 x64 / Win 11 21H2
Hello list, hello Stefan, The issue happens on The Bat! 10.1, too! The troublemaker is THe Bat! CEF browser. See urgent bug report: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2208 More on this issue at Libreoffice: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149948 -- Regards Gwen Using The Bat! Version 10.1 (32-bit) on Windows 11 10.0 (Build 22000 ) pgpbqVurrVw6m.pgp Description: PGP signature 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2 - The Bat! (32bit) blocks start of Libreoffice 7.3.5.2 x64 / Win 11 21H2
Hello list, hello Stefan, On Tue, 30 Aug 2022, at 16:22:00 [GMT +0200] (which was 16:22 where I live) Gwen wrote: > if dound a starnge bug where The Bat! 32bit block start of LibreOffice > 7.3.5.2 x64. FYI: Libreoffice team is investigating https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149948 -- Regards Gwen Using The Bat! Version 10.1 (32-bit) on Windows 11 10.0 (Build 22000 ) pgpalp0q53oSj.pgp Description: PGP signature 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2 - The Bat! (32bit) blocks start of Libreoffice 7.3.5.2 x64 / Win 11 21H2
Hello list, hello Stefan, On Tue, 30 Aug 2022, at 16:22:00 [GMT +0200] (which was 16:22 where I live) Gwen wrote: > if dound a starnge bug where The Bat! 32bit block start of LibreOffice > 7.3.5.2 x64. Same troube with The Bat! 10.1 32bit :-( I installed 10.1 and before 10.1.0.2 both with the standard installer (not the nau-installer!). -- Regards Gwen Using The Bat! Version 10.1 (32-bit) on Windows 11 10.0 (Build 22000 ) pgpDxgw4nfM_J.pgp Description: PGP signature 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2 - The Bat! (32bit) blocks start of Libreoffice 7.3.5.2 x64 / Win 11 21H2
Hello list and Stefan, > if dound a starnge bug where The Bat! 32bit block start of LibreOffice Has to be done without Hibernation and Windows Quickstart active and after a Coldstart of the PC. -- Regards Gwen Using The Bat! Version 10.1.0.2 (32-bit) on Windows 11 10.0 (Build 22000 ) pgp3s63bE9pUq.pgp Description: PGP signature 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
10.1.0.2 - The Bat! (32bit) blocks start of Libreoffice 7.3.5.2 x64 / Win 11 21H2
Hello list, hello Stefan, if dound a starnge bug where The Bat! 32bit block start of LibreOffice 7.3.5.2 x64. That happens only once after login of Windows user. 1. Login to your Windows 11 user 2. Start The Bat! 32bit 10.1.0.2 3. Wait a few seconds until The Bat! UI has completed 4. Start LibreOffice by Windows > Search > Libreoffice 5. LibreOffice not visible 6. Checking in task manager shows 2 LibreOffice processes but no LibreOfice UI 7. Close The Bat! 8. Wait a few seconds and Libreoffice starts and shows UI now 9. Close LibreOffice 10. Wait 1 minute 11. Start LibreOffice 12. LibreOffice starts without delay!!! - Windows 11 21H2 x64 Build 22000.918 - The Bat! 10.1.0.2 32bit - Libreoffice Version: 7.3.5.2 (x64) / LibreOffice Community Build ID: 184fe81b8c8c30d8b5082578aee2fed2ea847c01 CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 22000; UI render: Skia/Vulkan; VCL: win Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI: de-DE Calc: CL Can somone confirm this? And if yes, can a Ritlabs developer help to check? -- Regards Gwen Using The Bat! Version 10.1.0.2 (32-bit) on Windows 11 10.0 (Build 22000 ) pgpoIkq99yqvG.pgp Description: PGP signature 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html