Re: Empty space (was: 3.5RC8 a preview of issues to be tested)
Hello Thomas! On Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 9:48 PM, you wrote: ... means I cannot use v3.5 in the office. This version is a nice toy for my home, but not what I need in a heavy production environment. And I thought TB is *the* tool for the heavy user, and not just a toy. MB It *is* a tool for the heavy user. And getting more so all the time. MB You know that, Thomas! Yeah? You must have missed my message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I cannot use v3.5 in the office if the message list behaviour is not fixed. YMMV, but the new behaviour costs me too much time. I understood that it was giving you too many problems. I just wanted to tease you a bit about your sweeping language. :) MB I think you couldn't resist the alliteration and elegant word MB play. But to write toy in connection with TB! is to slander it! MB ... The customisable toolsbars are a toy for me, while they are important to others. The new look is also nice but has nothing to do with a production environment. Yes. Truer words never spoken. But you don't have to use that feature. So I was objecting to what I read as your calling the entire program a toy. ;) Did they say when TB will move back from toy status to tool status? MB In connection with a threading issue, ... MB mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the mid. I have no problems with threading (works here as ever) and hope that the message list behavior will be fixed at the same time. That's my hope, too. MB There are so many minor (depending on the particular use needed) MB things to fix, that I'm not sure whether the empty space one will be MB among them. The empty space is a cosmetic issue. I am sure it is connected with the clicking on the last message issue and will be implicitely fixed (would be annoying otherwise). Well, it's wait and see time, nicht wahr? ;) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty space (was: 3.5RC8 a preview of issues to be tested)
Hello Thomas! On Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 8:38 PM, you wrote, in part: My point is: The message list is not fixed in the current release. MB Completely confirmed. Thanks. MB But Stefan has implied that these aspects are a work-in-progress, Too bad. It means I cannot use v3.5 in the office. This version is a nice toy for my home, but not what I need in a heavy production environment. And I thought TB is *the* tool for the heavy user, and not just a toy. It *is* a tool for the heavy user. And getting more so all the time. You know that, Thomas! I think you couldn't resist the alliteration and elegant word play. But to write toy in connection with TB! is to slander it! :pointmade: ... Did they say when TB will move back from toy status to tool status? In connection with a threading issue, Stefan Tanurkov has posted on TBUDL this morning that the hope is to make a post-release available by the weekend. mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There are so many minor (depending on the particular use needed) things to fix, that I'm not sure whether the empty space one will be among them. I'm counting on Stefan's work in progress comment to the Bug Tracker issue report that I cited earlier in this thread. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty space (was: 3.5RC8 a preview of issues to be tested)
Hello Mary, On Wed, 18 May 2005 07:54:46 -0500 GMT (18/05/2005, 19:54 +0700 GMT), Mary Bull wrote: Too bad. It means I cannot use v3.5 in the office. This version is a nice toy for my home, but not what I need in a heavy production environment. And I thought TB is *the* tool for the heavy user, and not just a toy. MB It *is* a tool for the heavy user. And getting more so all the time. MB You know that, Thomas! Yeah? You must have missed my message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I cannot use v3.5 in the office if the message list behaviour is not fixed. YMMV, but the new behaviour costs me too much time. MB I think you couldn't resist the alliteration and elegant word MB play. But to write toy in connection with TB! is to slander it! MB :pointmade: The customisable toolsbars are a toy for me, while they are important to others. The new look is also nice but has nothing to do with a production environment. Did they say when TB will move back from toy status to tool status? MB In connection with a threading issue, Stefan Tanurkov has posted on MB TBUDL this morning that the hope is to make a post-release available MB by the weekend. MB mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the mid. I have no problems with threading (works here as ever) and hope that the message list behavior will be fixed at the same time. MB There are so many minor (depending on the particular use needed) MB things to fix, that I'm not sure whether the empty space one will be MB among them. The empty space is a cosmetic issue. I am sure it is connected with the clicking on the last message issue and will be implicitely fixed (would be annoying otherwise). -- Cheers, Thomas. There are a lot of drunk people about to drive home, so drive as fast as you can. It's harder for drunk people to hit you. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty space (was: 3.5RC8 a preview of issues to be tested)
Hello Mary, On Thu, 12 May 2005 09:31:32 -0500 GMT (12/05/2005, 21:31 +0700 GMT), Mary Bull wrote: MB When scrolling, I have only one line of empty space. I still have empty space in the message list. More than one line. Especially when I delete messages off that list. MB Yes. Confirmed. It's the Account/Folder tree which is slightly MB improved in RC8. The slight improvement in the current version doesn't cut it for me. MB *But*: Select Bottom from Account/Folder tree context menu, and MB space the full height of the account tree pane is left below the MB display of the last listing on the Account/Folder tree. MB Can you confirm this? No, I don't have a problem in the account tree. But in the message list. With 1,125 messages to go in TBBETA alone, don't count on me seeing your reply, though. My point is: The message list is not fixed in the current release. -- Cheers, Thomas. Die Bewohner von Hinter-Indien haben suedlich unter dem Munde eine Oeffnung. Ich habe sie mir auf der Karte gemerkt. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty space (was: 3.5RC8 a preview of issues to be tested)
Hello Thomas! On Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 11:33 AM, you wrote: With 1,125 messages to go in TBBETA alone, don't count on me seeing your reply, though. ... LOL So you get a PM CC with this! Never challenge a Bull! hehehe :evilbat: My point is: The message list is not fixed in the current release. Completely confirmed. But Stefan has implied that these aspects are a work-in-progress, in what he's said about moving columns and customise. So I have hope. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Empty space (was: 3.5RC8 a preview of issues to be tested)
Hello Mary, Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 12:11:08 AM, you wrote: MB LOL So you get a PM CC with this! Good idea! ;-) MB Never challenge a Bull! hehehe :evilbat: hehehe My point is: The message list is not fixed in the current release. MB Completely confirmed. Thanks. MB But Stefan has implied that these aspects are a work-in-progress, Too bad. It means I cannot use v3.5 in the office. This version is a nice toy for my home, but not what I need in a heavy production environment. And I thought TB is *the* tool for the heavy user, and not just a toy. MB So I have hope. :) Did they say when TB will move back from toy status to tool status? -- Best regards, Thomasmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5RC8 a preview of issues to be tested
Hello Stuart, It would be nice to have both functions. I have subdivided over 250 addresses into 10 groups, all addresses have a favorite entry. If I open the favorite menu, I get a dialog window which takes the whole screen. To find an address, I must scroll the menu for quite a number of seconds - really annoying. With this bug I cannot use TB in daily use. :( It exists already since the 'Deep Alpha', see attach -- best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.orgavision.de/bat-mail.xml Klipfolio Klip: http://thebat.orgavision.de/klipfolio Attachments / Dateianlagen: --- [1] screenshot_favorite_bug_v3.png (10,06 KB)attachment: screenshot_favorite_bug_v3.png Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Empty space (was: 3.5RC8 a preview of issues to be tested)
Hello Mary, On Wed, 11 May 2005 15:44:59 -0500 GMT (12/05/2005, 03:44 +0700 GMT), Mary Bull wrote: - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Empty lines if you scroll total on the bottom with the mouse in the message list. 3.5RC7: There appears to be improvement in the Account/Foldr tree. MB When scrolling, I have only one line of empty space. I still have empty space in the message list. More than one line. Especially when I delete messages off that list. -- Cheers, Thomas. No one ever falls in love with another person's mind at a cocktail party. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Empty space (was: 3.5RC8 a preview of issues to be tested)
Hello Thomas! On Thursday, May 12, 2005, 9:12 AM, you wrote: There appears to be improvement in the Account/Foldr tree. MB When scrolling, I have only one line of empty space. I still have empty space in the message list. More than one line. Especially when I delete messages off that list. Yes. Confirmed. It's the Account/Folder tree which is slightly improved in RC8. Scrolling, Account/Folder tree, only one line of empty space at bottom. *But*: Select Bottom from Account/Folder tree context menu, and space the full height of the account tree pane is left below the display of the last listing on the Account/Folder tree. Can you confirm this? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5 Return RC8 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.5RC8 a preview of issues to be tested
Hello Miroslav, Thursday, May 12, 2005, 6:31:45 AM, you wrote: MF I have subdivided over 250 addresses into 10 groups, all addresses have MF a favorite entry. If I open the favorite menu, I get a dialog window MF which takes the whole screen. To find an address, I must scroll the menu MF for quite a number of seconds - really annoying. With this bug I cannot MF use TB in daily use. Yes that is a lot of favorites. Before you could have none of the specific people selected, just the group. The difference between now and then was that the groups would expand to show their contents so you could pick a specific individual in that group. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC8 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5RC8 a preview of issues to be tested
Hello Peter! On Wednesday, May 11, 2005, 3:25 PM, you wrote, in part: User Interface: ... - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Empty lines if you scroll total on the bottom with the mouse in the message list. 3.5RC7: There appears to be improvement in the Account/Foldr tree. When scrolling, I have only one line of empty space. But if I do a right-click with the mouse and select Bottom from the context menu, the Account/Folder tree does indeed go to the bottom--but it leaves a space the height of the Account/Folder tree below the one Folder that is shown. Thanks for this careful collection of the issues, Peter. I read them all, and concur with how you assess them, for those places where I have been testing. (Especially Customise procedures that bring AVs.) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5 Return RC7 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5RC8 a preview of issues to be tested
Hello Peter, Customise: == - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wrong menu in View Source window Fixed. - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Options - Quick Templates: buttons gone completely. Options - Quick Templates: pop-up menu problem Fixed. User Interface: === - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Filters are not logged Fixed. - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sort order changed after initial restart. Seems to be fixed. Sort order has not changed with RC8. - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Deleted Messages window: - The Del-key, as mentioned in the context menu of the message list, does not undelete messages. Not fixed. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC8 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5RC8 a preview of issues to be tested
Hello Peter, A reminder of what Peter Ouwehand typed on: May 11, 2005 at 22:25:33 GMT +0200 PO Customise: PO == PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PO Toolbar sometimes truncated. Not Fixed. PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PO All Menu choices still not represented in Customize. PO ie. View/Display/Only Unread Messages. Not fixed. PO User Interface: PO === PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PO Filters are not logged Fixed, I think. PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PO Sort order changed after initial restart. Fixed at least for now. Will give this some time. PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PO and replies PO Odd behaviour after selecting View/Only Unread Messages. Appears to be fixed. PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PO - Have messages sorted by thread PO - Selecting View/Display/Unread Only the last message is sent to PO the top of the viewing area and all other Unread messages are PO pushed above that so it look like there is only 1 Unread message. PO This makes it necessary to scroll up to see the rest of the PO messages. Not fixed. PO Password Protected Accounts: PO PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PO Dispatch Mail on Server in Password Protected Account PO mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PO More detailed info PO 3.5RC2: PO - with reference to PMs with 9Val regarding daily-build 20050503: PO no changes in behaviour, hence not ok PO 3.RC7: PO ... to be tested later ... Not fixed as far as new system isn't quite working yet. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC8 Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2 On Windows 2000 5.0 Build #2195 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5RC8 a preview of issues to be tested
Hello Peter, - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The favourite entries are not correctly represented, introduced in v3.0.9.1 - see attach. the favorite entries are furthermore not usable - really disturbing :( https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4463 -- best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.orgavision.de/bat-mail.xml Klipfolio Klip: http://thebat.orgavision.de/klipfolio Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5RC8 a preview of issues to be tested
Hello Miroslav, A reminder of what Miroslav Florensen typed on: May 11, 2005 at 23:35:50 GMT +0200 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The favourite entries are not correctly represented, introduced in v3.0.9.1 - see attach. MF the favorite entries are furthermore not usable - really disturbing :( MF https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4463 Have you tried: Go into address book. RMB on an group and select properties. Select Add Items to Instant Address Popup. This lets me select address book groups from favorite lists, but it does not work as it did before allowing you to expand a group and select one member from that group. It would be nice to have both functions. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC8 Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2 On Windows 2000 5.0 Build #2195 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
