Re: 9.4.2.7 - HTML editor - selecting text with Ctrl+Shift+Arrow makes multi-word jumps
Hello Viktor, On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 10:15:28 +0200 GMT (27-Jul-21, 15:15 +0700 GMT), Viktor Kabelac wrote: >> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.7-x64-full.7z > After playing with this version some more, I noticed one behavior that I'd > like to point out. > When editing an HTML message and selecting text "wordwise" using > Ctrl+Shift+Arrow (left/right), the editor sometimes selects one or two words > as expected and then starts to make jumps of several words, selecting random > large portions of the text - in both directions (not only in the direction I > wanted to select in but also "back" behind the caret). > The boundaries of the large selecting block seem to stay the same even if I > try to start selecting a different word, wich brings me to the idea that > possibly something in the HTML causes the stops. > It happens with a fresh mail written from scratch too - it only needs to be > HTML. Terxt editing is OK i this regard. > Has anyone experienced that behavior and possibly already created an issue > for it? Yes, I have experienced that. It's an expansion of the "jumping cursor syndrome": https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2125 Jumping cursor https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2142 Jumping cursor when replying inline to HTML messages I think they are all related. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7 - HTML editor - selecting text with Ctrl+Shift+Arrow makes multi-word jumps
Hello all, Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 10:30:30 AM, you wrote: > Dear All, > Version 9.4.2.7 is available > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.7-x64-full.7z After playing with this version some more, I noticed one behavior that I'd like to point out. When editing an HTML message and selecting text "wordwise" using Ctrl+Shift+Arrow (left/right), the editor sometimes selects one or two words as expected and then starts to make jumps of several words, selecting random large portions of the text - in both directions (not only in the direction I wanted to select in but also "back" behind the caret). The boundaries of the large selecting block seem to stay the same even if I try to start selecting a different word, wich brings me to the idea that possibly something in the HTML causes the stops. It happens with a fresh mail written from scratch too - it only needs to be HTML. Terxt editing is OK i this regard. Has anyone experienced that behavior and possibly already created an issue for it? -- Cheers Viktor Kabelacmailto:kabe...@rar.cz TheBat! 9.4.2.7 Pro (x64, no OTFE) on Windows 10.0 x64 19042 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7
On Thursday, July 22, 2021, 12:19:17, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > We'll fix it in the next version. Funny enough, it depends on the font size, > e.g. size 9 use normal spaces, size 10 - nbsp, I've noticed the difference on > my office and home systems :-) Yeah, I have 10pt set as my default size. There's another bug – sometimes if I select a few words in the middle of the text and start typing (to replace them), TB will remove all text from the start of selection to the end of message (including any quoted text and signature). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > A pat on the back is only a few centimeters from a kick in the pants. -- Wilcox's Law TheBat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7 Forwarding HTML messages with national characters
Hello Stefan, On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 13:15:26 +0300 GMT (22-Jul-21, 17:15 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> Not fixed. I just tried with a message in German: Reply is fine, Forward is >> HTML code. > Yep, confirmed :) It has something to do with changes in the template engine. Thanks, looking forward to the next beta. Sent by PM. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7
Thursday, July 22, 2021 Thanks for your email. I've put my answers below. Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 4:30:30 AM, you wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.7-x64-full.7z Potential bug If a wrong word is found in the test. The spell checker will underline the word. If you right click on the word, select the correct spelling, the correct work is put at the start of the sentence and does not replace the misspelled word. Running the Bat 64 bit. Jerry -- Ethan J. Mings The Desk Consulting Group Inc. 1-200 North Service Road W. - Suite 311 | Oakville, Ontario, Canada. L6M 2Y1 Phone 905-825-9938 or 1-877-763-7776 | e-mail je...@thedeskdatacentre.com 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7
Hello Jernej, On Wed, 21 Jul 2021, at 18:17:42 [GMT +0200] (which was 18:17 where I live) Jernej wrote: > HTML editor still uses non-breaking spaces instead of regular > spaces: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2150 I confirmed in Ritlabs bug tracker. -- Regards Gwen Using The Bat! Version 9.4.2.7 (32-bit) on Windows 10.0 (Build 19043 ) pgpnvrSN4e3n1.pgp Description: PGP signature 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7
Title: Re: 9.4.2.7 Hi Stefan, ST> Version 9.4.2.7 is available As in a previous beta html editor can't be used daily: 1) after copy-past text fragments in different styles where are no way to simply "normalize" it to default font name, size and color. Selecting text and trying to enter new font name in a toolbar reset the selection. Pressing "Enter" in font size field do nothing (needs to change font in in list to higher and next to lower size to make changes). 2) Using logo in mail templates works incorrectly (doesn't mean ANSI English path to image or used local chars). After saving mail - logo is not attached to thу message. 3) Most keyboard shortcut things, like: - select text, press enter to delete selected and jump to new line - deleting parts of inserted tables by Backspace - pressing Del before tables to delete line by line doesn't work :( May be new generation of users is not use keyboard and use only mouse, but this is not a best practice. Same incorrect thing on TabOrder at a lot of places. Jumping from one field to another by "Tab" is not possible, only by mouse, because TabOrder is wrong for toolbars. -- With best regards, Sergey ( mailto:ad...@dotfix.net ) DotFix Software: http://www.dotfixsoft.com 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7
Hello Jernej, > HTML editor still uses non-breaking spaces instead of regular spaces: > https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2150 We'll fix it in the next version. Funny enough, it depends on the font size, e.g. size 9 use normal spaces, size 10 - nbsp, I've noticed the difference on my office and home systems :-) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7 Forwarding HTML messages with national characters
Hello Thomas, > Not fixed. I just tried with a message in German: Reply is fine, Forward is > HTML code. Yep, confirmed :) It has something to do with changes in the template engine. > I also mentioned earlier (mid:298798343.20210720175...@gmx.net) that is does > not work with a message in Thai language. It does work with other messages in > Thai language though. I can send the offending message and one that has no > problems (neither for replying nor for forwarding) to you by PM if you like. Please send it to me, sure -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7 HTML editor usees non-breaking spaces
Hello Thomas, On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 13:11:29 +0700 GMT (22-Jul-21, 13:11 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: > Hello Jernej, > On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 07:49:32 +0200 GMT (22-Jul-21, 12:49 +0700 GMT), > Jernej Simončič wrote: >> >>> HTML editor still uses non-breaking spaces instead of regular spaces: >>> https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2150 >>> Kindly explain for laymen what a "non-breaking space" is. I have an idea, >>> in which case I can confirm your bug, but I am not sure I undeerstand it >>> correctly. >> Wikipedia has a nice explanation: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-breaking_space (basically, instead of >> using U+0020 space character, TB uses U+00A0, which prevents automatic >> wrapping). > I had to get back into the tread to see what this was about: Kindly do not > cut too much of the previous conversation that the context gets lost. Thanks. > > OK, thanks for the Wikipedia article. I experience the opposite: Hard line > breaks are inserted by teh HTML editor where none is wanted; the bug > mentioned by you in mid:43367910.20210719231...@eternallybored.org is still > present. > > For example in the paragraph above, I certainly did not insert an LF after > "OK," and I cannot get rid of it. In the viewer, after receiving this message back, there was no hard LF after "OK,". Now that means the editor and the viewer do not show the same. I clicked on the HTML icon, and there is indeed no hard LF. The editor is not WYSIWYG. Bug. I again see a hrd LF after '"OK,' but the second " is on the nexct line... weired. Also, in the viewer there are no soft line breaks, the lines in the incoming message just go on outside the screen and I have to scroll to read them. Bug. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7 HTML editor usees non-breaking spaces
Hello Jernej, On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 07:49:32 +0200 GMT (22-Jul-21, 12:49 +0700 GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: > >> HTML editor still uses non-breaking spaces instead of regular spaces: >> https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2150 >> Kindly explain for laymen what a "non-breaking space" is. I have an idea, in >> which case I can confirm your bug, but I am not sure I undeerstand it >> correctly. > Wikipedia has a nice explanation: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-breaking_space (basically, instead of using > U+0020 space character, TB uses U+00A0, which prevents automatic wrapping). I had to get back into the tread to see what this was about: Kindly do not cut too much of the previous conversation that the context gets lost. Thanks. OK, thanks for the Wikipedia article. I experience the opposite: Hard line breaks are inserted by teh HTML editor where none is wanted; the bug mentioned by you in mid:43367910.20210719231...@eternallybored.org is still present. For example in the paragraph above, I certainly did not insert an LF after "OK," and I cannot get rid of it. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7 HTML editor usees non-breaking spaces
On Thursday, July 22, 2021, 05:13:48, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > Kindly explain for laymen what a "non-breaking space" is. I have an idea, in > which case I can confirm your bug, but I am not sure I undeerstand it > correctly. Wikipedia has a nice explanation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-breaking_space (basically, instead of using U+0020 space character, TB uses U+00A0, which prevents automatic wrapping). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Everything breaks down. -- Orion's Law TheBat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7 Forwarding HTML messages with national characters
Hello Stefan, On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 11:30:30 +0300 GMT (21-Jul-21, 15:30 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Version 9.4.2.7 is available > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.7-x64.7z > Here is a short list of changes: > [-] Forward of HTML messages was inserting HTML code Not fixed. I just tried with a message in German: Reply is fine, Forward is HTML code. I also mentioned earlier (mid:298798343.20210720175...@gmx.net) that is does not work with a message in Thai language. It does work with other messages in Thai language though. I can send the offending message and one that has no problems (neither for replying nor for forwarding) to you by PM if you like. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7
Hello Stefan, On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 11:30:30 +0300 GMT (21-Jul-21, 15:30 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Version 9.4.2.7 is available > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.7-x64.7z > Here is a short list of changes: > [-] (#02144) Clicking internal links was not working Confirm fixed. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7 HTML editor usees non-breaking spaces
Hello Jernej, On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 18:17:42 +0200 GMT (21-Jul-21, 23:17 +0700 GMT), Jernej Simončič wrote: > On Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 10:30:30, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.7-x64.7z > HTML editor still uses non-breaking spaces instead of regular spaces: > https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2150 Kindly explain for laymen what a "non-breaking space" is. I have an idea, in which case I can confirm your bug, but I am not sure I undeerstand it correctly. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[SPAM?] 9.4.2.7
So I set this already but I'm uncertain if it went because instead of reply, I was playing with edit as new and accidently used edit as new for this which left the from as it was on the original message. Also, when I then changed the account so it was coming from me, it added a forwarded from header at the top and an end of original message footer, not something I wanted or expected though I guess one might argue it makes sense. Also further testing shows that some HTML messages work properly and some don't. Dear All, Version 9.4.2.7 is available [-] "Message | Edit as new" was quoting original text Well, it works better for text messages, but not at all for HTML messages. When I use edit as new on a HTML message it puts in all the HTML as text so it looks like this. I've only included the first few lines but a one page message is many many pages of HTML code. The text between the lines of /// was just copied from a message where I choose edit as new. Ira /// Thank you for your purchase!
Re: 9.4.2.7
Hello Stefan, STvT> Version 9.4.2.7 is available STvT> https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.7-x64.7z U Sticking to plain text until we have a workable HTML. -- Best regards, Richardmailto:the...@newmangroup.com -- Using The Bat! v9.4.2.7 on Windows v10 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7
On Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 10:30:30, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.7-x64.7z HTML editor still uses non-breaking spaces instead of regular spaces: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2150 -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > A bird in the hand is safer than one overhead. -- Avian Law TheBat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7
Hello Stefan, > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.7-x64.7z Installed and running fine so far. Thank you! -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.4.2.7 Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 19042 NordVPN vs. 6.36.4.0 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7
Hello Stefan, Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 10:30:30 AM, you wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.7-x64-full.7z Looks good so far - I left our some betas lately, but the HTML editor feels much calmer and more robust. Thank you! -- Cheers Viktor Kabelacmailto:kabe...@rar.cz TheBat! 9.4.2.7 Pro (x64, no OTFE) on Windows 10.0 x64 19042 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7
Hello Stefan, U Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 4:30:30 AM, you wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.7-x64.7z -- Best regards, Curt Akin 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7
Hello Stefan, On Wed, 21 Jul 2021, at 11:30:30 [GMT +0300] (which was 10:30 where I live) Stefan wrote: > Version 9.4.2.7 is available > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.7-x32-full.7z U & R -- Regards Gwen Using The Bat! Version 9.4.2.7 (32-bit) on Windows 10.0 (Build 19043 ) pgpqOUO9JaKkt.pgp Description: PGP signature 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7
Hello Stefan, > Version 9.4.2.7 is available > > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.7-x64.7z Downloaded and running. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial (Madrid) - Spain) Using The Bat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7
Wednesday, July 21, 2021 Thanks for your email. I've put my answers below. Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 4:30:30 AM, you wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.7-x64-full.7z Installed and running. Jerry -- Ethan J. Mings The Desk Consulting Group Inc. 1-200 North Service Road W. - Suite 311 | Oakville, Ontario, Canada. L6M 2Y1 Phone 905-825-9938 or 1-877-763-7776 | e-mail je...@thedeskdatacentre.com 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
9.4.2.7
Dear All, Version 9.4.2.7 is available https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.7-x32-full.7z https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.7-x64-full.7z https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.7-x32.7z https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.7-x64.7z Here is a short list of changes: [-] (#02144) Clicking internal links was not working [-] Forward of HTML messages was inserting HTML code [-] "Message | Edit as new" was quoting original text -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov CEO @ Ritlabs S.R.L. 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
