Re: IMAP support (was: Filter problem with IMAP account)

2004-09-20 Thread Keith Russell
Hi, Oliver.
Olivier Mascia wrote:
Is there some central wish-list about TB IMAP features somewhere ? I'd
like to read it and probably add some input.
Peter recently started a thread on this topic at:
msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[snip]
I found your discussion of POP3/IMAP clients highly interesting 
and educational, and your suggestion of separating POP3 and IMAP 
clients to be quite thought provoking. I'm surprised that it 
hasn't generated more discussion here.

In between, I now daily use TB 3.0 for IMAP. But I still need to daily
use other clients for some tasks.
I am also using multiple clients. However, in my case, usage is 
reversed. I use mostly other clients, and use TB! only 
occasionally. There are just too many IMAP features still 
missing, and that, combined with the performance issues I'm 
having, makes it too time consuming and frustrating to use on a 
regular basis.

The only fear I have is that the
remaining things to add or correct might be too cumbersome to
implement in an email client that has to do POP too. The weakiest move
of Mulberry was when they decided to add POP support to it. The number
of deficiencies sky rocketed at that time.
This, too, I find very interesting. I didn't start using Mulberry 
till recently, so I wasn't aware of this.

Thanks for a very stimulating post!
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Filter problem with IMAP account

2004-09-19 Thread mml

I filter my Inbox for a particular email adress, assign a color group and
finally move these messages to another folder. When I use this filter
with IMAP provider1 the filter always fails. The result is that
these messages stay in the Inbox and don't have the appropriate color.
When I invoke the filter manually from the filter properties dialog
this works fine !!

When I use the same filter with my IMAP provider2 account it works
without any problems. That's strange right ? Is this a bug or am I
doing something wrong ?

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Re: Filter problem with IMAP account

2004-09-19 Thread Peter Fjelsten
mml,

On 19-09-2004 14:02, you [mmd] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

mmd I filter my Inbox for a particular email adress, assign a color group and
mmd finally move these messages to another folder.

Each time I assign a colour group to an IMAP message, that colour group
is lost on moving the message.

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Re: Filter problem with IMAP account

2004-09-19 Thread Allie Martin
Mml, [M] wrote:

 I filter my Inbox for a particular email adress, assign a color group and
 finally move these messages to another folder. When I use this filter
 with IMAP provider1 the filter always fails. The result is that
 these messages stay in the Inbox and don't have the appropriate color.
 When I invoke the filter manually from the filter properties dialog
 this works fine !!

 When I use the same filter with my IMAP provider2 account it works
 without any problems. That's strange right ? Is this a bug or am I
 doing something wrong ?

This is an interesting insight. I have only one IMAP provider and
that's myself. I've been noting that my Inbox filters work when they
feel like. Some seem to work consistently, while others don't. Both
are filters that look for header string matches. In fact, the one that
often doesn't work at all is one that matches all messages not yet
already filtered (it's the last filter in the filter set).

I've never thought that the filter could be working differently
depending on the provider and that this could be a factor in the
existence of this annoying problem.

All I can say is that you're certainly not alone with this problem and
that it isn't your fault or anything you're doing wrong. It's just TB!
IMAP and we have to wait for a fix if we're up to waiting.

Does your provider allow for server side filtering? Many providers
allow for webmail control of IMAP accounts. These webmail interfaces
often allow for filtering. You could setup filters there and then let
TB!'s broken filtering do as little as possible. This is my current
system of dealing with things. I'd go nuts and run if I had to filter
all my IMAP mail with TB!.

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Re: Filter problem with IMAP account

2004-09-19 Thread Allie Martin
Peter Fjelsten, [PF] wrote:

 Each time I assign a colour group to an IMAP message, that colour
 group is lost on moving the message.

This isn't surprising since moving the message moves the message to
another IMAP folder on the server. TB! sync's with this IMAP folder
which holds no information about colour group assignment, a purely
local feature for TB!. As a result, there is no colour group
assignment when you check the message in the other folder.

You may propose then that RL implements a system when the colour group
is locally reassigned when the message is moved. I'd wonder why bother
since it really isn't worth the hassle. If you fire up another TB!
client on another machine and access the IMAP account, all colour
groups assigned via the initial TB! installation will not be seen.
What's the point then of using an attribute that doesn't carry across
to other IMAP clients?

If you use a single client, then why use IMAP then?

TB! needs to implement the added message attributes that are standard
for the IMAP protocol, so that when you label the message, ThunderBird
will show it, Mulberry will show it, and last but not least, your
other TB! installations at other locations will show it. I'd
personally disagree with the proposal that they commit efforts at
making colour groups work better when it's only local.

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