Re: IMAP folder list synchronization

2007-07-16 Thread Martin Sebald
Hi Vilius!

>> So this is the traditional stuff we are talking about? IMAP is a feature
>> but does not work. Great...
> Welcome to the IMAPrevTB
> I already moved to Outlook 2007 for better IMAP and the only feature I'm
> missing now is messages thread view, which doesn't work well in Outlook.
> But the else is much better than pre-alpha version of TB!'s IMAP. 

You're completly right. IMAP in TheBat is in my opinion completly unusable.
Sometimes it works, sometimes not.

So bad that nobody from the creaters is ever paying attention to threads
like this one. We'll, I think they are too busy with fancy stuff like
graphicals smileys and tons of themes...

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RE: IMAP folder list synchronization

2007-06-27 Thread Vilius Šumskas
> So this is the traditional stuff we are talking about? IMAP is a
> feature
> but does not work. Great...

Welcome to the IMAPrevTB :) I already moved to Outlook 2007 for better IMAP and 
the only feature I'm missing now is messages thread view, which doesn't work 
well in Outlook. But the else is much better than pre-alpha version of TB!'s 
IMAP.

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Re: IMAP folder list synchronization

2007-06-27 Thread Martin Sebald
Hi Stuart!

>>> 1) Simplify the folder name. Maybe move it to a known folder as a test.
>>> I'm not sure if an email address is a valid folder name for this
>>> purpose.  
>> Well, it's not a folder name, the mail address is the name of the POP3
>> account the message should get moved to. 
> So you are moving it to a POP3 account. Well I just tried that and it
> works as well. 

Interesting. Very interesting.

>>> 2) Move your filter higher in the filter list. It may be that some
>>> other filter is acting on the message first and not triggering this new
>>> filter. 
>> This filter is the only active filter. Also it is the second filter in
>> row (after one disabled filter).
> H, still works for me even after an inactive filter.

Hm. It seems that IMAP is not working very well.

> Did some more testing and it seems to be general instability in IMAP. I
> created a new filter after restarting TB and it worked the first time,
> but then quit working. I then sent more test messages and it quit
> working. I then quit TB and then re-launched and it started working
> again. 

So this is the traditional stuff we are talking about? IMAP is a feature
but does not work. Great...

> Don't know what to suaggest as Ritlabs does not seem to want to work on
> IMAP anymore in version 3. 

You mean that feature I paid for when upgrading from 1.x to 2.0? Or you
mean the feature which was promised to work 2 years ago? Or you mean that
feature I have to wait for and pay for version 4 first?

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Re[2]: IMAP folder list synchronization

2007-06-24 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Martin,
Saturday, June 23, 2007, 6:57:11 PM, you wrote:

>> 1) Simplify the folder name. Maybe move it to a known folder as a test.
>> I'm not sure if an email address is a valid folder name for this purpose.

MS> Well, it's not a folder name, the mail address is the name of the POP3
MS> account the message should get moved to.

So  you are moving it to a POP3 account. Well I just tried that and it
works as well.

>> 2) Move your filter higher in the filter list. It may be that some other
>> filter is acting on the message first and not triggering this new filter.

MS> This filter is the only active filter. Also it is the second filter in row
MS> (after one disabled filter).

H, still works for me even after an inactive filter.

Did  some more testing and it seems to be general instability in IMAP.
I  created  a  new  filter after restarting TB and it worked the first
time,  but  then  quit  working. I then sent more test messages and it
quit  working.  I  then  quit  TB  and  then re-launched and it started
working again.

 Don't  know what to suaggest as Ritlabs does not seem to want to work
 on IMAP anymore in version 3.
 
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Re: IMAP folder list synchronization

2007-06-23 Thread Martin Sebald
Hi Stuart!

>>> Can you copy your filter and paste it here so we can test it?
>> Sure. Here you are:
> In general the filter seems to work OK. Two things you may want to try.

> 1) Simplify the folder name. Maybe move it to a known folder as a test.
> I'm not sure if an email address is a valid folder name for this purpose.

Well, it's not a folder name, the mail address is the name of the POP3
account the message should get moved to.

> 2) Move your filter higher in the filter list. It may be that some other
> filter is acting on the message first and not triggering this new filter.

This filter is the only active filter. Also it is the second filter in row
(after one disabled filter).

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Re[2]: IMAP folder list synchronization

2007-06-23 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Martin,
Saturday, June 23, 2007, 2:20:12 AM, you wrote:

>> Can you copy your filter and paste it here so we can test it?

> Sure. Here you are:

In  general  the  filter  seems to work OK. Two things you may want to
try.
1)  Simplify  the  folder  name.  Maybe move it to a known folder as a
test. I'm not sure if an email address is a valid folder name for this
purpose.
2)  Move  your  filter  higher in the filter list. It may be that some
other  filter  is  acting on the message first and not triggering this
new filter.

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Re: IMAP folder list synchronization

2007-06-23 Thread Martin Sebald
Hi Stuart!

>> No, it was one of the folders that did not change since the time I setup
>> the IMAP account.

>> In "Manage IMAP folders" the synchronize checkbox of this folder was not
>> checked. I changed this and tried again, also disconnected from the IMAP
>> server and connected again. No luck.

>> I also tried to change the mail which should get moved to the local POP3
>> account to unread again. Also no luck.

>> Is there something special I have to look at for IMAP filter rules which
>> I simply forgot or do not know?

> Can you copy your filter and paste it here so we can test it?

Sure. Here you are:

 TB! Message Filter 
beginFilter
UID: [B2D0C457.01C75DDB.16084EC0.30C8CBC2]
Name: Test
Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MoveMessage folder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter

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Re[2]: IMAP folder list synchronization

2007-06-22 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Martin,
Friday, June 22, 2007, 8:48:35 AM, you wrote:

MS> No, it was one of the folders that did not change since the time I setup
MS> the IMAP account.

MS> In "Manage IMAP folders" the synchronize checkbox of this folder was not
MS> checked. I changed this and tried again, also disconnected from the IMAP
MS> server and connected again. No luck.

MS> I also tried to change the mail which should get moved to the local POP3
MS> account to unread again. Also no luck.

MS> Is there something special I have to look at for IMAP filter rules which I
MS> simply forgot or do not know?

Can you copy your filter and paste it here so we can test it?

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Re: IMAP folder list synchronization

2007-06-22 Thread Martin Sebald
Hi Stuart!

>> Following three problems:

>> 1) I created a filter which should move mails with a certain sender in a
>> certain folder to a folder in another TB account. Nothing happened. The
>> reason I like to do this: I want to store mails local because of the
>> huge size and numbers, also I use TB a lot of when being offline. The
>> reason I want to use IMAP instead of POP3: I need to create folders on
>> the mailserver because I get ~200 mails a day and cannot reasonable read
>> these mails online via webmail without sorting this serverside to
>> folders. 
> This  should  work,  it does here. You mention below you can't see all
> your folders, is the one it is supposed to move to one of the ones you
> can't see? If so se below. 

No, it was one of the folders that did not change since the time I setup
the IMAP account.

In "Manage IMAP folders" the synchronize checkbox of this folder was not
checked. I changed this and tried again, also disconnected from the IMAP
server and connected again. No luck.

I also tried to change the mail which should get moved to the local POP3
account to unread again. Also no luck.

Is there something special I have to look at for IMAP filter rules which I
simply forgot or do not know?

>> 2) TB does not show the new folders and I did not find any way to
>> initiate something like this.
> Right  click  on the account name and select Manage IMAP folders. Then
> select  "Reset  List".  You  can  now  mange  each  folder in terms of
> synchronization. 

Ah thank you. Clearly a problem which sat in front of the computer. ;-)

Worked as you described.

>> 3) Inbox appeared bold and showed the number of new mails not until I
>> clicked onto it.
> This sometimes happens and seems to be a bug.

Well ok no big problem for me.

But this filter problem really is a showstopper for me in my particular
setup I want to run here (as described in my first mail).

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Re: IMAP folder list synchronization

2007-06-22 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Martin,
Friday, June 22, 2007, 2:31:54 AM, you wrote:

MS> Following three problems:

MS> 1) I created a filter which should move mails with a certain sender in a
MS> certain folder to a folder in another TB account. Nothing happened. The
MS> reason I like to do this: I want to store mails local because of the huge
MS> size and numbers, also I use TB a lot of when being offline. The reason I
MS> want to use IMAP instead of POP3: I need to create folders on the
MS> mailserver because I get ~200 mails a day and cannot reasonable read these
MS> mails online via webmail without sorting this serverside to folders.

This  should  work,  it does here. You mention below you can't see all
your folders, is the one it is supposed to move to one of the ones you
can't see? If so se below.

MS> 2) TB does not show the new folders and I did not find any way to initiate
MS> something like this.

Right  click  on the account name and select Manage IMAP folders. Then
select  "Reset  List".  You  can  now  mange  each  folder in terms of
synchronization.

MS> 3) Inbox appeared bold and showed the number of new mails not until I
MS> clicked onto it.

This sometimes happens and seems to be a bug.


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IMAP folder list synchronization

2007-06-22 Thread Martin Sebald
Hi all,

again I tried my luck with IMAP. I was very unlucky again. Just wanted to
make sure that the problem isn't sitting in front of the computer... ;-)

I created several folders on my test mailbox the last weeks using the
webmail interface. Also there are several mails in the Inbox and the
created folders. I pressed "Recieve new mails" in TB.

Following three problems:

1) I created a filter which should move mails with a certain sender in a
certain folder to a folder in another TB account. Nothing happened. The
reason I like to do this: I want to store mails local because of the huge
size and numbers, also I use TB a lot of when being offline. The reason I
want to use IMAP instead of POP3: I need to create folders on the
mailserver because I get ~200 mails a day and cannot reasonable read these
mails online via webmail without sorting this serverside to folders.

2) TB does not show the new folders and I did not find any way to initiate
something like this.

3) Inbox appeared bold and showed the number of new mails not until I
clicked onto it.

As I said, maybe not a TB problem, but I just wanted to be sure.

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