Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Marek,

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 you wrote in 

MM> and new Microed will be not announced?

SoonIhopebecausethespacebardoesn'twork!:-(

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Volker Ahrendt]

·---·-Date---·
| Q&A  [1] | 2008-01-22 |
·---··
[Reply to: »Volker Ahrendt« · 2008-01-22 · 17:26 h (CET)]

>> (And I just noticed a peculiarity with MicroEd: when you paste
>> something, the pasted text stays selected, so you have to press an
>> arrow key first before you can resume typing (if you don't want to
>> loose the thing you pasted).

> Confirmed!

Fixed in 4.0.0.14.

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Re[2]: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Valerye Bostan]

Hello, Zygmunt!

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, at 19:01:43 [GMT +0100] (which was 20:01 where I
live) you wrote:

> [+] some hints may have "Press F1 ..." addition.



ZW> Yes, I know it, but please don't give too many decorations in the
ZW> window elements. I translate TB! interface myself and have added some
ZW> hints after discussion with the users. Pressing F1 to obtain the
ZW> context help is known operation as well, so reminding this possibility
ZW> by "Press F1..." hint is rather unnecessary.

It's different (new) functionality!
The specific help topic will be given for item which has the Hint Window
active. This may happen if hinted control has it's own help context id.

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Volker Ahrendt]

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[Reply to: »Jernej Simončič« · 2008-01-22 · 10:39 h (CET)]

Hello, Jernej!

> (And I just noticed a peculiarity with MicroEd: when you paste
> something, the pasted text stays selected, so you have to press an
> arrow key first before you can resume typing (if you don't want to
> loose the thing you pasted).

Confirmed!

Cheers!
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Re[2]: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Valerye Bostan]

Hello, Zygmunt!

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008, at 23:45:36 [GMT +0100] (which was 0:45 where I
live) you wrote:

ZW> Additionally, Maxim announced this:

>>> [+] some hints may have "Press F1 ..." addition.

ZW> Fpr me, using strings from menu items as hint texts (as it is done in
ZW> editor status bar) is unnecessary. The translator should have free
ZW> choice to insert hints on window elements.

Agreed, for the Status Bar it really does nothing, it's only a design demo
for all hints related to controls having meaningful HelpContext.
So in the future such hints will define temporary F1-Key context
change (while hint window is active). Pressing F1 will give you a help
page related to the hint parent control.

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Jernej Simončič]

On Tuesday, January 22, 2008, 0:32:11, Peter Gannushkin wrote:

> Also, the status line doesn't handle any mouse clicks anymore.
> Actually, the same is true to the main window.

Not to mention that the status line (and a few other GUI elements)
still clash badly with my colour scheme.

(And I just noticed a peculiarity with MicroEd: when you paste
something, the pasted text stays selected, so you have to press an
arrow key first before you can resume typing (if you don't want to
loose the thing you pasted).

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Peter Gannushkin]

Hello Stefan,

PG>> I hoped that new MicroEd will handle spaces at the end of the
PG>> line correctly, but it didn't happen. Guess we'll still see a lot
PG>> of problems with signature delimiters.

ST> It actually does. Check the option "Preserve trailing spaces". Also,
ST> now it's possible to see where your signature starts right in the
ST> editor (if you didn't set it to the same colour/style as the default
ST> text, of course).

I did look at the options under MicroEd since it is MicroEd specific, but it 
was not there. So it is under general editor options and it works. What doesn't 
work is persistent selection / overwrite selection: regardless of the settings 
the text is always selected after it was inserted from the clipboard.

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[George Mitchell]

Marek Mikus wrote:

MM> and new Microed will be not announced? ;-)

With the new MicroEd, if I have Auto-Format enabled space characters
between words are ignored.

Likethis,forexample.

And with Auto-Format off and Auto-Wrap on, the wrapping gets really 
weird if I go back and insert text in a paragraph.  It'll start 
wrapping individual words onto separate lines.

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Re[2]: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Paul Van Noord]

1/21/2008  8:27 PM

Hi Henk,

On 1/21/2008 Henk M. de Bruijn wrote:

HMdB> Testing "Preserve trailing spaces"

Works.

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Rick Grunwald]

> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, at 02:09:06 [GMT +0200] (which was 1:09 where I
> live) Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

>> It actually does. Check the option "Preserve trailing spaces". Also,
>> now it's possible to see where your signature starts right in the
>> editor (if you didn't set it to the same colour/style as the default
>> text, of course).

> Testing "Preserve trailing spaces"

Your sig came through correctly


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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Henk M. de Bruijn]

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, at 02:09:06 [GMT +0200] (which was 1:09 where I
live) Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

> It actually does. Check the option "Preserve trailing spaces". Also,
> now it's possible to see where your signature starts right in the
> editor (if you didn't set it to the same colour/style as the default
> text, of course).

Testing "Preserve trailing spaces"

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Stefan,

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:37:08 +0200 GMT (22/01/2008, 06:37 +0700 GMT),
Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

MM>> and new Microed will be not announced? ;-)

ST> Well, the special announcement will be made when we release the
ST> actual BETA :-)

ST> You see, there are some problems with fonts, spell checker cannot
ST> be activated...

Let me know about the fonts... there is no need for me to download .13
if it displays all mails in the font set in the RTV and I have no
access  to the PTV.

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello Marek,

MM> do You plan to remove Windows editor?

In a post-4.0 version, yes. As soon as we make it possible to use
"soft" line breaks in MicroEd (not a big problem, but we just don't
want to go into it before the release) Windows Editor will be removed.

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Tuesday, January 22, 2008, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

> Hello Peter,

PG>> I hoped that new MicroEd will handle spaces at the end of the
PG>> line correctly, but it didn't happen. Guess we'll still see a lot
PG>> of problems with signature delimiters.

> It actually does. Check the option "Preserve trailing spaces". Also,
> now it's possible to see where your signature starts right in the
> editor (if you didn't set it to the same colour/style as the default
> text, of course).

do You plan to remove Windows editor?

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello Peter,

PG> I hoped that new MicroEd will handle spaces at the end of the
PG> line correctly, but it didn't happen. Guess we'll still see a lot
PG> of problems with signature delimiters.

It actually does. Check the option "Preserve trailing spaces". Also,
now it's possible to see where your signature starts right in the
editor (if you didn't set it to the same colour/style as the default
text, of course).


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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Tuesday, January 22, 2008, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

MM>> and new Microed will be not announced? ;-)

> Well, the special announcement will be made when we release the actual BETA
> :-)

great, but testers should know, new componnent is up already and something could
be broken

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Tuesday, January 22, 2008, Peter Gannushkin wrote:

> Also, the status line doesn't handle any mouse clicks anymore. Actually,
> the same is true to the main window.

this is not fixed yet, I miss it too, mainly in editor now

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Peter Gannushkin]

Hello Marek,

>> The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA) is available at
>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40013.rar

>> What's new in 4.0.0.13 since 4.0.0.12:

MM> and new Microed will be not announced? ;-)

I hoped that new MicroEd will handle spaces at the end of the line correctly, 
but it didn't happen. Guess we'll still see a lot of problems with signature 
delimiters.

Also, the status line doesn't handle any mouse clicks anymore. Actually, the 
same is true to the main window.

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello Marek,

MM> and new Microed will be not announced? ;-)

Well, the special announcement will be made when we release the actual BETA
:-)

You see, there are some problems with fonts, spell checker cannot be
activated...

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Marek,

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 you wrote in 

MM> and new Microed will be not announced? ;-

Soo I hope because it doesn't work well in .13 so I'm back with 12.

Use F4 to quote text in a reply and the space bar doesn't work. Also,
hitting enter at the end of a quote to start a new reply paragraph
doesn't work. It just continues on with quotes.

Both work fine if writing in a new message though.

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Marek,
  A reminder of what Marek Mikus typed on:
  Monday, January 21, 2008 at 23:26:05 GMT +0100

>> What's new in 4.0.0.13 since 4.0.0.12:

MM> and new Microed will be not announced? ;-)

I am looking, but I am not finding anything new.

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Monday, January 21, 2008, Cees wrote:

> the previous versions :S
>   You mean options to left/right align, justify or center the text?
>   Or was this already there :blush

no, there is a new component in editor window, some features do not work now, 
but check preferences
for new options or check Find/Replace text dialogs.

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Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Cees]

Het was maandag 21 januari 2008 om 23:26 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'MicroEd 
(Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))' :

Hallo Marek,

>> What's new in 4.0.0.13 since 4.0.0.12:
MM> and new Microed will be not announced? ;-)

  :bork:
  
  forgot to check with the previous versions :S
  You mean options to left/right align, justify or center the text?
  Or was this already there :blush:

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MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Monday, January 21, 2008, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

> The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA) is available at
> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40013.rar

> What's new in 4.0.0.13 since 4.0.0.12:

and new Microed will be not announced? ;-)

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