Re[7]: New spam - bayes filters not working
Hello steverio, Thursday, December 8, 2005, 8:47:09 PM, you wrote: Hello RMorris... On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 19:56:38 -0600, you wrote: Thanks for the interesting comments on Regula. Please drop a note later when you find out more from testing the bayesian filters. Talk about anti-spam plug-in's for TB is not kept very active and usually are very brief. Look for the next version of AGAVA to be further improved too. This is what I was told upon inquiry. I have not heard of any future plans with BayesIt or BayesFilter for quite awhile. Regula is very aggressive=had to set all my filters to the 'over ride' option just to get my normal mail to their folders. Trained it with 3000 spams and 2000 hams=after resetting filters=zero spams. All went to each spam folder. Ingore tagline as avaga is turned off. -- Best regards, R.Morris TheBat!3.63.08 (Beta) AntiSpam= AGAVA AntispamServant mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.63.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Re[7]: New spam - bayes filters not working
RMorris... On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 20:26:37 -0600, you wrote: Regula is very aggressive=had to set all my filters to the 'over ride' option just to get my normal mail to their folders. Trained it with 3000 spams and 2000 hams=after resetting filters=zero spams. All went to each spam folder. Ingore tagline as avaga is turned off. I wish the Regula help section was in English. I have a hard time understanding it even using Babel Fish so I gave up. TB filters saved a few hams otherwise Regula labeled them spam in the filter log. I don't know why. Thanks for the input. I'll be groping around for now. :) -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.07 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[9]: New spam - bayes filters not working
Hello steverio, Friday, December 9, 2005, 8:49:37 PM, you wrote: RMorris... On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 20:26:37 -0600, you wrote: Regula is very aggressive=had to set all my filters to the 'over ride' option just to get my normal mail to their folders. Trained it with 3000 spams and 2000 hams=after resetting filters=zero spams. All went to each spam folder. Ingore tagline as avaga is turned off. I wish the Regula help section was in English. I have a hard time understanding it even using Babel Fish so I gave up. TB filters saved a few hams otherwise Regula labeled them spam in the filter log. I don't know why. Thanks for the input. I'll be groping around for now. :) Try [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask. I am still just 'playing around' with regula but=I AM VERY IMPRESSED!! Since its Christmas I am thinking of sending regula $20 via paypal. Still wondering how much it will take to get him to speak Texan? Hopefully he reads this list and/or gets feedback for somewhere,somebody. IMO=If 'we' can get Tony Boom (and other people)fired up on this=somebody has to make a 'great'(not just good) spam filter for TheBat!. Now if 'we' could just get a 'plugin' that works with kaspersky 5.0 pro I would really be happy. -- Best regards, R.Morris TheBat!3.63.08 (Beta) AntiSpam= AGAVA AntispamServant mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.63.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
New spam - bayes filters not working
I am recently receiving a new kind of spam. Spammers instead of writing a text inside the email are attaching a gif file containing the ad and the product image. The subject and the text of the email are always changing and also the name of the attachment is always changing. I have tried to teach both bayesit and bayes filter but after a month the spam is still passing through the filters. I suppose this is because the ad is inside the image and cannot be read by the filter that only reads the subject and the text (that is randomly chosed). Anyone having the same problem and any suggested solution? -- Regards, Fabio Current beta is 3.63.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: New spam - bayes filters not working
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Thursday morning, Fabio wrote something like this: Anyone having the same problem and any suggested solution? Regula: http://www.gaijin.at/tbpregula.php -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.63.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: New spam - bayes filters not working
On 05-12-08 (09:47), you wrote:
I have tried to teach both bayesit and bayes filter but
Try AGAVA AntispamServant - works like charm. :)
Best regards, Krzysztof Kudłacik
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Re: New spam - bayes filters not working
Hi Fabio, on Thu, 8 Dec 2005 09:47:41 +0100GMT (08.12.2005, 09:47 +0100GMT here), you wrote: FC I am recently receiving a new kind of spam. Spammers instead of writing a text FC inside the email are attaching a gif file containing the ad and the product FC image. ... FC Anyone having the same problem and any suggested solution? I get this kind of spam too. K9 has no problem detecting them after I marked four or five manually (http://keir.net/k9.html). -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.63.08 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.63.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: New spam - bayes filters not working
Hello Sebastian, Thursday, December 8, 2005, 3:04:58 AM, you wrote: Anyone having the same problem and any suggested solution? SM Regula: http://www.gaijin.at/tbpregula.php I get an error message when I try to load this plug-in. Any suggestions. Could not initialize plugin. It is either an dinternal program or not a recognized plugin. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.63.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Re[2]: New spam - bayes filters not working
Stuart Cuddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I get an error message when I try to load this plug-in. Any suggestions. You need to download and install pcre too. Look for the dpcre download on the same page. (I don;t read German either - but its fairly obvious). There is an installer batch file (in the download) for NT/XP and another for Win9x. Choose the right one and it will work OK -- Graham Current beta is 3.63.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: New spam - bayes filters not working
Hello Fabio Cipparone, Anyone having the same problem and any suggested solution? I have the feeling that many people are asking non-beta questions here, because they think to find better answers among the tbbeta members; and I think this is a little bit unfair towards the TBUDL users. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. -- Albert Einstein Current beta is 3.63.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: New spam - bayes filters not working
Hello On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:18:44 +0100, you wrote: On 05-12-08 (09:47), you wrote: I have tried to teach both bayesit and bayes filter but Try AGAVA AntispamServant - works like charm. :) Best regards, Krzysztof Kud³acik I have AGAVA and it is not totally effective against image-type spam. I have trained many of these type (a few hundred) and it still remains that some get through. Believe it or not but the email spam rules that nail them good is in Outlook 2003. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.07 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: New spam - bayes filters not working
Hello Fabio... On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 09:47:41 +0100, you wrote: I am recently receiving a new kind of spam. Spammers instead of writing a text inside the email are attaching a gif file containing the ad and the product image. The subject and the text of the email are always changing and also the name of the attachment is always changing. I have tried to teach both bayesit and bayes filter but after a month the spam is still passing through the filters. I suppose this is because the ad is inside the image and cannot be read by the filter that only reads the subject and the text (that is randomly chosed). Anyone having the same problem and any suggested solution? Maybe new to you but have been around for awhile I'm afraid. To me these image-type spam seem to fool the Bayesian filters. With the TB anti-spam plug-ins, I have had the best results with AGAVA but not totally effective. Some of this spam types still get through and makes you wonder. Adding a TB filter action derived from something common from the message source of your spam which might be like* Message Source contains Content-Type: image/gif;* works for me but possibly could some nail legitimate email. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.07 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: New spam - bayes filters not working
Hello Krzyszto... On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:18:44 +0100, you wrote: On 05-12-08 (09:47), you wrote: I have tried to teach both bayesit and bayes filter but Try AGAVA AntispamServant - works like charm. :) Best regards, Krzysztof Kud³acik To add to my previous post to you: If you are getting totally effective image-type spam control with AGAVA TB plug-in, please, if you wish, tell me any information you use such as spam score setting, how many trained image-type spam have been marked, etc. Thanks -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.07 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[4]: New spam - bayes filters not working
Hello Graham, Thursday, December 8, 2005, 8:28:34 AM, you wrote: You need to download and install pcre too. Look for the dpcre download on the same page. (I don;t read German either - but its fairly obvious). There is an installer batch file (in the download) for NT/XP and another for Win9x. Choose the right one and it will work OK Ah yes. I thought this was a file I already had. The installer for Win98 did not work however, so I just copied the file into the c:\windows\system32 directory and it is now up and running. Thanks. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.63.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Re[5]: New spam - bayes filters not working
Hello RMorris... On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 19:56:38 -0600, you wrote: Hello All, I downloaded Regula and it really works. What AGAVA does not get regula does. I usually get 200-300 spams a day between 6 mailboxes. The 'new' type of spam agava seems to have a hard time picking up,regula does not. Regula seems to be (IMO) unuser friendly,but it works. I got a little over 300 spams today=everyone sent to their respected junk folder. I gave up a long time ago on bayesit,it just quits working. Bayes does good but it quits working after awhile. I bought agava when it came out=still [EMAIL PROTECTED] 80%=but it works. The down side is=zero updates,very un-user friendly,interface is very cheesy. I set regula up to do bayes filtering=will see in about 3-5 days if it really works,as I will turn avaga off on rely on regula to really see what happens. IMO=regula is great just have to babblefish the web pages to get it in english (wonder if I can get the author to speak Texan=pipedream,just hoping)and it needs better support. Thanks for the interesting comments on Regula. Please drop a note later when you find out more from testing the bayesian filters. Talk about anti-spam plug-in's for TB is not kept very active and usually are very brief. Look for the next version of AGAVA to be further improved too. This is what I was told upon inquiry. I have not heard of any future plans with BayesIt or BayesFilter for quite awhile. -- steverio TB!v3.62.14 TBV!v3.63.07 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current beta is 3.63.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
