Re: Next Beta Series Request

2005-05-16 Thread Peter Fjelsten
NetVicious,

On 15-05-2005 01:20, you [N] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
N Another direction could be a better integration with Microsoft
N Exchange. I think there is no substitute (in Linux it exist
N Evolution) of Microsoft Outlook with a perfect integration with
N Exchange (schedule, meetings, tasks to do). This integration could
N add a lot of enterprise customers on the list of possible TB! users.

I would _love_ this - this way I did not have to use Outlook at work for
meetings, etc. As it is now I have to run TB!/IMAP and Outlook in
parallel.

I also think it might interesting for Ritlabs from a business POW.

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Re: Next Beta Series Request

2005-05-16 Thread Foster, Graham
Hello Peter
 I also think it might interesting for Ritlabs from a business POW.
I don't believe any organisation with an installed Outlook client base
and Exchange server would ever look at The Bat! as an enterprise
e-mail client. Where is the track record? Where is the support model?

The Bat is a niche market product for those people who want an e-mail
client to do more (in some areas). If Ritlabs want to produce an
Outlook replacement for their clients, then I would wholeheartedly
support this, as I too have to run Outlook and TB in parallel. Ritlabs
however should not embark on this with the idea they will make money
on it - 'cause they wont.

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Re: Next Beta Series Request

2005-05-16 Thread The Final Cut
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M You can already select different colour for
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 For text colour - yes, but try to do it only for quotes background ;-)

M Ah, I see. The background, you guys were talking about background.

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Re: Next Beta Series Request

2005-05-16 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Graham,

On 16-05-2005 12:56, you [FG] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
FG Ritlabs however should not embark on this with the idea they will
FG make money on it - 'cause they wont.

Do you know how many users of Outlook are looking for an alternative?
No.

Maybe TB! will not be implemented of a per-site basis but there probably
enough disgruntled users of Outlook to make it worth Ritlabs'
investment. At work, I run TB! although the official client is Outlook.

Of course, IMO.

(PS. Your signature delimiter is broken)

FG Regards
FG  Graham

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Re: Next Beta Series Request

2005-05-16 Thread Foster, Graham
Hello Peter

 (PS. Your signature delimiter is broken)
Ta

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Mod: Cut mark (was: Next Beta Series Request)

2005-05-16 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Graham,

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Re: Next Beta Series Request

2005-05-16 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Tero Ripattila  everyone else,

on 15-Mai-2005 at 23:49 you (Tero Ripattila) wrote:

 I totally agree with you. I can easily name numerous companies that
 would be interested in having an alternative windows-based
 exchange-client.

The problem (at least for me) is the seamless integration  operation into
the Exchange environment. This includes dragdrop of Mails into the
Calender, Mails into the To-Do list, working with the Exchange calendar,
public folders, public contacts folders, etc. etc.

I tried using TB at work  connected it to our Exchange2003 server via
IMAP, it does work, but its only the mailer part, and thats not enough.

Sidenote: I can live with Outlook much better ever since I installed Google
desktop. Searching is much easier now.

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Re: Next Beta Series Request

2005-05-16 Thread MAU
Hello The,

M You can already select different colour for
M odd/even quotes, it has been
M that way for many many moons.

 For text colour - yes, but try to do it only for quotes background ;-)
 
M Ah, I see. The background, you guys were talking about background.
 
 ThunderBird has this feature with an extention
 This is very useful when there is many reply to the same email

I didn't know, I never even tried ThunderBird.

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Re: Next Beta Series Request

2005-05-15 Thread Claude Renaud
Hi Maxim,

Le dimanche 15 mai 2005 à 01:24:41, vous écriviez :

MM Hello Netvicious,

MM Sunday, May 15, 2005, 2:20:05, you wrote:

Another  direction  could  be  a  better  integration  with  Microsoft
Exchange.
MM There is currently a bug with exchange that The Bat! doesnt
MM retrieve messages sometimes. We would fix it.

And other suggestions :

Hi,

  
  I see that there are some people on the list who have difficulties
using tb because they are blind (as me) or poorly sighted, and so
they need to use a screen reader.
As them, I confirm that the NFS of V3.x is not as friendly as the
previous was ...
So a long suggested feature I try to do survive here ... What about
implementting in TB the well known MSAA features ?


And a suggestion related to tb but not especially to beta :

Could it be possible to include on the The Bat! download page
all the related stuffs like :
- links to download sounds for tb,
- token manager for the use of otfe,
- related dlls for the use of biometric authentication,
- help file,

And perhaps I forget other ones ... complete the list if you think
it would be useful (it would be interesting to have that kind of
ressource in order to keep on asking all the time where could I
download this ...)


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Re[2]: Next Beta Series Request

2005-05-15 Thread Tero Ripattila

Hello NetVicious,

Sunday, May 15, 2005, 2:20:05 AM, you [N] wrote:

N Another  direction  could  be  a  better  integration  with  Microsoft
N Exchange. I think there is no substitute (in Linux it exist Evolution)
N of   Microsoft  Outlook  with  a  perfect  integration  with  Exchange
N (schedule, meetings, tasks to do). This integration could add a lot of
N enterprise customers on the list of possible TB! users.

I totally agree with you. I can easily name numerous companies that
would be interested in having an alternative windows-based
exchange-client.

Thanks, Tero

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Re: Next Beta Series Request

2005-05-15 Thread Tero Ripattila

Hello Graham,

Thursday, May 12, 2005, 11:38:43 AM, you [FG] wrote:

FG I'd like the development team to focus on re-engineering the
FG addressing, address lookup and message compose UI, and these are my
FG specific requests :-

I'd be very happy to see these address related enhancements implemented
during this upcoming beta round.

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Re: Next Beta Series Request

2005-05-14 Thread NetVicious
jueves, 12 may 2005 at 10:38, it seems you wrote:

 Well 3.5 looks close to release now, so (yet again) I'll make my pitch
 for the aims of the next beta series.

I  think RT should read BT section of The Bat Wishes. Some of they are
easy  to  implement  and will made the program better to use. The more
little change the more easy to test bugs will be.

I have added seconds ago this little one:
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4646

Another  direction  could  be  a  better  integration  with  Microsoft
Exchange. I think there is no substitute (in Linux it exist Evolution)
of   Microsoft  Outlook  with  a  perfect  integration  with  Exchange
(schedule, meetings, tasks to do). This integration could add a lot of
enterprise customers on the list of possible TB! users.






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Re[2]: Next Beta Series Request

2005-05-14 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Netvicious,

Sunday, May 15, 2005, 2:20:05, you wrote:

Another  direction  could  be  a  better  integration  with  Microsoft
Exchange.
There is currently a bug with exchange that The Bat! doesnt retrieve messages 
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Next Beta Series Request

2005-05-12 Thread Foster, Graham

Well 3.5 looks close to release now, so (yet again) I'll make my pitch
for the aims of the next beta series. I'd like the development team to
focus on re-engineering the addressing, address lookup and message
compose UI, and these are my specific requests :-

0002995 24 Sep 2004 Add recipients should have add as group option
0003298 28 Jul 2004 Reconcile an address book against LDAP
0003643 16 Sep 2004 Address book linked to LDAP grows without limit
0003568 08 Sep 2004 Allow access to follow-up and scheduled functions
within message creation
0002464 21 Apr 2005  easy scheduled e-mail send
0003320 06 Aug 2004 Add a Has Memo flag with drill down
0003004 24 Apr 2005  Selectable background for quotes

0002311 21 Apr 2005  Address Autoview feature needs an overhaul
0002310 21 Apr 2005  Address lookup from LDAP
0004007 01 Nov 2004  Add newline as an address delimiter
0003758 17 Oct 2004  Missing add address book group
0003017 06 Jun 2004 Need to be able to cancel a spell check and still send

and last but not least
718 10 May 2005 Spellecking | Options | Autocorrect does not work
:)

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Re: Next Beta Series Request

2005-05-12 Thread Boris Anders
Hello Graham,

Graham Foster wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 Well 3.5 looks close to release now, so (yet again) I'll make my pitch
 for the aims of the next beta series.

So here is mine:
Add feature for *bold* etc. mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fix Bugs from Return cycle.
Fix Bugs from Return cycle.
Fix Bugs from Return cycle.
Fix Bugs from Return cycle.
...
Fix older Bugs.
Fix older Bugs.
Fix older Bugs.
Fix older Bugs.
...

Release the Version. BTW: This cycle could be named stabilize.


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Re: Next Beta Series Request

2005-05-12 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Boris!

On Thursday, May 12, 2005, 6:32 AM, you wrote:

 Well 3.5 looks close to release now, so (yet again) I'll make my pitch
 for the aims of the next beta series.

 So here is mine:
 Add feature for *bold* etc.
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Fix Bugs from Return cycle.
snipped *

*And award prize for finding most AVs to Boris and his co-finders, with
consolation prize to Allie about his shortcut-creation woes.

 ...
 Fix older Bugs.
snipped
laughing out loud at the clever repetitions in both Fix lists

 ...

 Release the Version. BTW: This cycle could be named stabilize

Stabilize/Harmonize, so consistency appears in some of the context
menus--like, Open for viewing an attachment in a View Message
window as contrasted with the RC8 change to View in the Edit Mail
Message (Micro-Ed) window. And fix the no-double-click function
presently remaining in the Edit Mail Message window, for opening the
attachment.

A :star: to you from me Boris, for putting the directions for all the
unfixed AVs in the Customizer which you previously dedicated to me
back on the RC8 reports. But it was nice to have AV 5 (the stack
overflow/crash one) eliminated, wasn't it?

;)

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Re: Next Beta Series Request

2005-05-12 Thread 9Val
Hi Graham,  

FG 0003004 24 Apr 2005  Selectable background for quotes

Something like in attach? ;-)

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Re: Next Beta Series Request

2005-05-12 Thread Foster, Graham
Hello 9Val
FG 0003004 24 Apr 2005  Selectable background for quotes

 Something like in attach? ;-)
if you can alternate it depending on odd/even quote level - then
exactly like that (or more precisely - like Thunderbird)

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Re: Next Beta Series Request

2005-05-12 Thread MAU
Hello Graham,

 Something like in attach? ;-)
 if you can alternate it depending on odd/even quote level - then
 exactly like that (or more precisely - like Thunderbird)

You can already select different colour for odd/even quotes, it has been
that way for many many moons.

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Re: Next Beta Series Request

2005-05-12 Thread 9Val
Hi MAU,  

M You can already select different colour for odd/even quotes, it has been
M that way for many many moons.

For text colour - yes, but try to do it only for quotes background ;-)

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Re: Next Beta Series Request

2005-05-12 Thread MAU
Hello 9Val,

M You can already select different colour for odd/even quotes, it has been
M that way for many many moons.
 
 For text colour - yes, but try to do it only for quotes background ;-)

Ah, I see. The background, you guys were talking about background.

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Re: Next Beta Series Request

2005-05-12 Thread 9Val
Hi Graham,  

FG if you can alternate it depending on odd/even quote level - then

Odd/even are supported, nested quotes no.

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