Re: RSS option
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Sunday morning, Hans wrote something like this: It would be nice to have a RSS option in The Bat!. Maybe an idea for the next version? We have plugins. rss2pop http://ivan.bolhovitinov.googlepages.com/rss2pop rss2pop3 http://www.pkierski.net/rss2pop3.shtml rss2mail http://thebat.pl/download/index.php?itemid=325 -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RSS option
We have plugins. rss2pop http://ivan.bolhovitinov.googlepages.com/rss2pop any idea how to change character encoding? rss2pop3 http://www.pkierski.net/rss2pop3.shtml is crashing TB when the connection is too slow. rss2mail http://thebat.pl/download/index.php?itemid=325 completely unusable. All of that plugins have lack of user-friendly interface - especially adding new RSS :( -- Pozdrowienia, Daniel mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Nietoperek 3.98.3 pracujący w Windows XP build 2600 + () ICQ: 49156588 -- Oficjalne konto pocztowe europejskich internautow! http://link.interia.pl/f19e8 Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: RSS option
Sebastian, It would be nice to have a RSS option in The Bat!. Maybe an idea for the next version? We have plugins. Yes you do. rss2pop http://ivan.bolhovitinov.googlepages.com/rss2pop rss2pop3 http://www.pkierski.net/rss2pop3.shtml rss2mail http://thebat.pl/download/index.php?itemid=325 For people who speak Russian or Polish. On your website, I see antispam and antivirus. Would it be possible to put the available TB plugins in one place and organize some translating? -- Gleason Using 3.98.3 on Windows XP, 5.1, Build 2600. IMAP email provider is Fastmail, which uses Cyrus server software. Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
RSS option
Hello all.. It would be nice to have a RSS option in The Bat!. Maybe an idea for the next version? I am also a registered user of Pocomail 4.1.0.3650 and this program has this RSS option and also NNTP and I like it very much.. Regards Hans Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RSS option
Hans, It would be nice to have a RSS option in The Bat!. Maybe an idea for the next version? I am also a registered user of Pocomail 4.1.0.3650 and this program has this RSS option and also NNTP Me too, and others. and I like it very much.. There are things about Poco that make me want to use it. Unfortunately, it remains very poorly done, especially in Imap handling. Also Poco's nntp is still in the stone age. If you use newsgroups at all, Agent Newsreader has no peers, imo. Unfortunately, Agent does not do Imap at all, and it appears Forte has no plans to add it. There is a promised v5 for Poco on the horizon, that has been a year coming. One can only hope. Slaven has been less receptive to my pleas for well done software than the TB crew. It is hard to get software managers past the place where it appears that claimed features sell and technical excellence doesn't. -- Gleason Using 3.98.3 on Windows XP, 5.1, Build 2600. Email provider is Fastmail, which uses Cyrus server software. Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RSS option
Hello Gleason On Sunday, March 4, 2007 you wrote: Hans, It would be nice to have a RSS option in The Bat!. Maybe an idea for the next version? I am also a registered user of Pocomail 4.1.0.3650 and this program has this RSS option and also NNTP Me too, and others. There are things about Poco that make me want to use it. Unfortunately, it remains very poorly done, especially in Imap handling. Also Poco's nntp is still in the stone age. If you use newsgroups at all, Agent Newsreader has no peers, imo. Unfortunately, Agent does not do Imap at all, and it appears Forte has no plans to add it. I hope if they consider this they do it as plug-ins. I hate to see great software get bloated with features that stray from the original The HTML viewer is a great example. I would use it but many in here wouldn't. If it was a plug-in (sold separately?) That would deal with all my HTML mail whether I was creating it or reading it, that would satisfy the many IMHO. Same with NNTP - I might get that plugin too. I would skip the RSS plugin as I don't want to read feeds in The Bat From the ritlabs website it seems that this was in progress at one point although most of the plugins listed were either pointless or are gone. The plugin schema is worth revisiting -- Rick The Bat Version 3.98.3 Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: RSS option
Rick, From the ritlabs website it seems that this was in progress at one point although most of the plugins listed were either pointless or are gone. The plugin schema is worth revisiting Plugins seem like a good idea in theory, and many email providers have tried them. If you put up an sdk and let users do plugins, you have problems with maintaining compatibility, and unpaid user programmers might be lacking in commitment to quality. Doing the plugins in house means that providing large features like nntp support are twice the work, because you must do the feature work and the plugin interface work. It ends up being more cost effective to simply put everything into the program. I suspect. But you are right, TB is now over 11 mb on the hoof. Agent is about the same. Mulberry and Poco are in the 9ish range. Becky, Eudora, and Pegasus are 2ish. I suspect that the universal trouble that email client providers have had with Imap means that much of TB's size is dedicated to getting Imap right. How much larger should it grow? -- Gleason Using 3.98.3 on Windows XP, 5.1, Build 2600. IMAP email provider is Fastmail, which uses Cyrus server software. Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RSS option
--On Sunday, March 04, 2007 2:01 PM, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to say that from my point of view, I would like to have The Bat! have all its current features work properly BEFORE anything else is added. I fully agree with this sentiment but I also would like to add that I haven't liked the trend of producing all-inclusive software since ICQ and Netscape started doing it back in the late 90s. It's worse now that everyone on the planet seems to think that adding RSS feed capability is an easy value-add but that leads to the issue that, well, now nearly every program on my computer tries to choke me to death with RSS feeds. I'm fully expecting the next version of my preferred disk defragmenting tool to start offering RSS feeds as well. Anyway, feeds are supposed to be lightweight so I never understood the need to burden them with complex management tools (which is why I wrote my own very minimalistic app called FeedLynx that has a list of items in the order that they were received, grouped by source which is in turn grouped by category, viewable with a built-in browser that allows me to bookmark interesting topics rather than retain their RSS item source, and nothing else). Besides, what's wrong at having a series of programs each doing what it does best? I suppose it's a matter of convenience to have to only pay attention to one systray icon rather than several but that's something I'm willing to give up for having the best tool for each job. So, if I can vote negatively on adding RSS feeds to The Bat! any moreso than I have, let me know. I'm pretty good at totally derailing a mailing list thread with a paragraph or two of personal bias. -- :R. pgpjMtDMS6M1w.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: RSS option
Randy, --On Sunday, March 04, 2007 2:01 PM, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to say that from my point of view, I would like to have The Bat! have all its current features work properly BEFORE anything else is added. I fully agree with this sentiment but I also would like to add that I haven't liked the trend of producing all-inclusive software since ICQ and Netscape started doing it back in the late 90s. It's worse now that everyone on the planet seems to think that adding RSS feed capability is an easy value-add but that leads to the issue that, well, now nearly every program on my computer tries to choke me to death with RSS feeds. I'm fully expecting the next version of my preferred disk defragmenting tool to start offering RSS feeds as well. And I have 5 assorted programs that offer basic ftp services. None of which can offer the power of a dedicated ftp client, because, of course, their main focus is something else. The problem for software managers is how to attract attention and new buyers to the product. The consensus seems to be, frequent new versions with new features. Fixes for bugs and more importantly poor program design brought on at least partially by throwing together features as you go along rather than planning the whole product at the start and sticking to that plan are low priority. It seems to me that when all the competition is chasing away customers with this strategy, a gaping hole of opportunity opens up in the pavement. Where is the manager who has the vision to offer a well done product when nobody else is? Equally important is the vision to see from the start what a well done product would be like. -- Gleason Using 3.98.3 on Windows XP, 5.1, Build 2600. IMAP email provider is Fastmail, which uses Cyrus server software. Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: RSS option
Ian, Hans, On Sunday, March 4, 2007, 8:28:29 PM, you (Hans Stam) wrote: HS It would be nice to have a RSS option in The Bat!. Ok, I'm going to jump in here. I have to say that from my point of view, I would like to have The Bat! have all its current features work properly BEFORE anything else is added. I know that some still have problems with TB, and might even be unable to use it for one reason or another. I find it much, much better than it was a year ago. -- Gleason Using 3.98.3 on Windows XP, 5.1, Build 2600. IMAP email provider is Fastmail, which uses Cyrus server software. Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RSS option
Ian A. White wrote: HS It would be nice to have a RSS option in The Bat!. Ok, I'm going to jump in here. I have to say that from my point of view, I would like to have The Bat! have all its current features work properly BEFORE anything else is added. will you really feel okay with versions like 3.99.9(9)? -- Signed, Vitalie. Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: RSS option
Ian, Yes, there are those who would like to decree that all messages must be plain text. Yes, mostly those IT types you mention. You know, some of this reminds me of my brother (an IT Consultant). He is rabidly against Windows and everything Microsoft, only in the real world, unless you want your computer to be a glorified paperweight, you end up having to use a Microsoft product, be it because the printer will only come with Windows drivers, or your PDA only works with Windows, or your mobile phone software only works with Windows. It it weren't for things like that, I would still be using os2. His reason for being against Microsoft is that he can't stand all the mucking around to get Windows working properly... so he spends even more time working out workarounds to TRY and get what he needs to work working on Windows NT (the only MS product he barely tolerates), or Linux. It is true that the 9x versions of Windows were essentially unusable for high performance networking environments. This is not true of current versions. My beef with MS has more to do with their monopolistic tendencies. And their strategy of hijacking other people's ideas while calling it innovation. -- Gleason Using 3.98.3 on Windows XP, 5.1, Build 2600. IMAP email provider is Fastmail, which uses Cyrus server software. Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RSS option
Ian A. White wrote: vv will you really feel okay with versions like 3.99.9(9)? It has nothing to do with version numbers. The number means nothing. so, you won't mind proceeding to v4 as long as annoyances are taken care of. right? -- Signed, Vitalie. Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
