Re[2]: Filters working in v5?
6/15/2012 8:24 PM Hi Thomas, On 6/15/2012 Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF For actaul working, POP is best. Yup! - -- Paul The Bat! v.4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7601 No IMAP No OTFE Current beta is 5.1.6.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters working in v5? (Securing your hardware) :)
5/2/2012 3:53 PM Hi RS, On 5/2/2012 RS (FEDARA) wrote: RF Last thing is that I do not have much trust in IMAP and leaving your RF data on some server ; even big companies lost customers data due to RF mistakes - you can call me old fashioned here but if it's lost I can RF only blame myself :) Agreed! RF As for now I use non-encrypted TB! installed on separated RF TC container and it works good for me. Me too! RF I used on-fly-encrypted version first I installed TB! but had to RF switch to none-encrypted due to some problems I had with it (don't RF remember now what it was ; reported it on BugTraq but it's gone now). For me it was unrecoverable corrupted mailbase files. RF Tried to use Voyager that is on-fly-encrypted on my 32GB USB but it RF didn't work good. I mean here that Voyager worked good but sync to a RF my desktop failed 3 times in a raw so I just gave it up. Same here. Thanks for the thorough explanation. It is comforting to know there is someone with similar experiences and similar solutions. - -- Paul The Bat! v.4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7601 No IMAP No OTFE Current beta is 5.1.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters working in v5?
5/1/2012 11:36 AM Hi Tony, On 5/1/2012 Tony Hoare wrote: IMO IMAP is the only driving force for v5. IMAP is not a part of my future for reasons of security that cannot be overcome with IMAP. TH What security issues do you see in IMAP? The message base is not local. - -- Paul The Bat! v.4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7601 No IMAP No OTFE Current beta is 5.1.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters working in v5?
5/1/2012 11:56 AM Hi Raymund, On 5/1/2012 Raymund Tump wrote: RT Hi Paul, TH What security issues do you see in IMAP? The message base is not local. RT That is a security issue only if you think your mails aren't save as RT long as they are on a server. This is also true for POP3 as long as RT you don't get the mails every second. If it were only this simple. - -- Paul The Bat! v.4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7601 No IMAP No OTFE Current beta is 5.1.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters working in v5?
5/1/2012 11:56 AM Hi Rick, On 5/1/2012 Rick wrote: The message base is not local. R Is that not the nature of the beast? If you want security, us POP Yup! - -- Paul The Bat! v.4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7601 No IMAP No OTFE Current beta is 5.1.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters working in v5?
5/1/2012 9:41 PM Hi Vilius, On 5/1/2012 Vilius Šumskas wrote: VŠ If an attacker is in possesion of mail server it doesn't matter if VŠ it's IMAP or POP. He will still be able to read your new email. IMAP VŠ is just a protocol to get email from the server. It is no more or less VŠ secure than POP. VŠ Using POP3 and thinking that you are somehow more secure is completely VŠ ridicilous idea. If you need a security encrypt your email base (be it local VŠ or on the server). Most of the modern email server can do that. No sense attempting an explanation since you seem to have all the answers. - -- Paul The Bat! v.4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7601 No IMAP No OTFE Current beta is 5.1.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters working in v5?
5/1/2012 9:43 PM Hi Raymund, On 5/1/2012 Raymund Tump wrote: RT I can't see what's more to it. RT Any mail send can be read by someone along the way as long as it is RT not encrypted. If it is at rest at a server it might be easier to RT access for an attacker. RT if your mail is that interesting to an attacker he/she/it will find a RT way to get it from your computer as well... See response from RS... - -- Paul The Bat! v.4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7601 No IMAP No OTFE Current beta is 5.1.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters working in v5?
4/30/2012 8:21 AM Hi Rick, On 4/29/2012 Rick wrote: R Filters work well R Delayed sending is AWESOME R Less bugs R Drag and drop images in HTML emails R I could go on - what specifically concerns you? Filters in V4 work perfectly for me. After 14 years of use the interface changes do nothing for me and add unneeded extra clicks. V4 doesn't bug me at all. Delayed sending works exactly as I need it to do - when I use it. V5 requires retraining my elderly customers for which they receive no benefits to them and their usage. IMO IMAP is the only driving force for v5. IMAP is not a part of my future for reasons of security that cannot be overcome with IMAP. - -- Paul The Bat! v.4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7601 No IMAP No OTFE Current beta is 5.1.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters working in v5?
4/29/2012 10:19 AM Hi Thomas, On 4/29/2012 Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF Over 100 filters though, that's why I am reluctant: If it ain't broke, TF don't fix it. Precisely! TF Maybe it's time for a little prep-talk again. In a nut-shell, why TF should I (POP-user) upgrade to v5? I am not only aksing for myself, I TF am also aksing because other people ask me. Therefore, a 20-page TF changelog won't help to convince anybody. Reason: 1. 2. 3. - -- Paul The Bat! v.4.2.44.2 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7601 No IMAP No OTFE Current beta is 5.1.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
