Re[5]: Imap

2008-01-03 Thread Gleason Pace

Alto,

GP The thing that amazes me is that people can continue to argue that TB
GP Imap does not work while so many of us here attest otherwise.

 A matter of usage behaviour, I suppose. If I start TheBat at nine in
 the morning and at ten have to discover that it's not like nobody
 would have sent me any mail in the meantime but that TheBat's joblist
 has frozen and is simply not collecting the new mail already piling up
 in my account, for me that's the definition of not usable. If I have
 to discover days after answering some mails that my answers in fact
 hadn't been sent as directed but are still lingering in the out
 folder, that also constitutes not usable.

 Other people may have other definitions.

No, other people have at least that definition.  Even Thunderbird can
do that much.  TB users (like me) usually have a number of other
message handling requirements.  What we are having trouble expressing
effectively is that TB meets all those requirements.

Usually a person who is getting a behavior from their software that
other users don't...usually that person would wonder about conditions
on their computer and not condemn the software as unusable.


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Re[5]: IMAP users: auto disconnect

2005-07-09 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Vili,
Saturday, July 9, 2005, 1:02:41 PM, you wrote:

V Try one more thing for me:

V Lets say, you are stuck, i.e. cannot auto disconnect.

V 1. Click on an already read/downloaded mail, at me it shows up as a
V bluish envelope. At me, TB! does not auto disconnect at this time, as
V it does not have to connect to the IMAP server to get the mail.

V 2. Click on an non downloaded mail, at me it shows up as a grayish
V envelope. At me, TB! DOES auto disconnect at this time, as
V it has to connect to the IMAP server to get the mail.

V Maybe this auto disconnect thing is IMAP server dependent...

There  seems  to  be  too  many  settings  affecting  this.  If I have
synchronize set to sync all messages, headers and text, then there is no
need to download anything in you example.

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Re[5]: IMAP problems

2005-07-06 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Vili,

  A reminder of what Vili typed on:
  Wednesday, July 06, 2005 at 09:59:23 GMT -0400

 Just reread what Vili wrote and unchecked When Active Disconnect
 After. This seems to have cured the No Message Loaded problem.

V I am glad :) Forward your mail to Tony :)))

Tony has seen it but denies this was checked.

V Anyway, so the problem is located: TB! does not connect to IMAP
V server. Once it is connected, it works.

Yes seems so on my end.

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Re[5]: IMAP problems

2005-07-06 Thread Allie Martin
On Wednesday, July 06, 2005, at 01:22 PM, Tony Boom wrote:

 Say that I'm reading mail in TBBETA.

 Your reading mail in TBBETA

LOL!!!

Er Tony, you didn't say it; you wrote it! Tsk!!!


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Re[5]: IMAP: Fastmail missing messages

2005-07-06 Thread Allie Martin
On Wednesday, July 06, 2005, at 02:54 PM, Stuart Cuddy
wrote:

 Do you know what your Spam filter is set to do in Fastmail? My freeby
 account has no access.

It's set to custom. It's set to delete any message with a spam score
greater than 15 and to place messages with a spam score greater than 5
in my junk message folder.

Someone could have a black or grey-listed IP that's 'polluting' all
messages within the thread. As a result, all messages with the IP are
being filtered.

I noted this problem when I had fastmail doing the default prefixing
of the subjects of messages deemed as spam. I had a lot of messages in
my TBBETA folder appearing with the [spam] prefix in them. A suspect
IP address was in their headers.

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Re[5]: IMAP proposal: Away Mode

2005-06-24 Thread Allie Martin
On Friday, June 24, 2005, at 09:16 AM, Alto Speckhardt
wrote:

 Copying the cache files from my home machine onto the laptop via
 Windows Offline Folder. This is usually done by WLAN and thus not
 very fast, therefore I have considerable interest in keeping the
 files as small as possible.

Interesting what you do there. Isn't the laptop connectable to the
Internet? Why don't you connect to the server and do the
synchronisation?

I'm wondering if the cache files have the appropriate names. You're
doing something there that's pretty unusual for any IMAP user. The
essence of IMAP is not having to do what you're doing. You can have
the same thing happening on multiple machines without having to copy
from one to the other.

Anyway, you can enjoy yourself with it.

 You're obviously right, because that's exactly what happens. But to my
 understanding it shouldn't: Why can my commands (deleteDeleted,
 deleteDuplicates, compress) not be executed on the cache while
 disconnected and be queued for execution on the server as soon as the
 machine is re-connected?

I was hoping I could assist, but I see that I'm not.

 Can I DeleteDeleted somewhere else than in Maintenance?

Deleting deleted is the same as compressing/expunging.

 I'm using v3.02 (productive), where the bug about the non-closing CC
 doesn't take place. The CC closes, and the log-line (status line of
 TheBat main window) states something like IMAP connection finished.

That's a pretty early version there. TB!'s IMAP has undergone a lot of
changes since. I actually am using it now, when I just didn't use it
then.

 I'm accustomed to polling since I started FidoNet. POP3 worked in
 this mode as well, and I see no benefit from another mode. I do not
 like to rely on an open connection, I want to have needed data locally
 and just sync it on demand. I only use IMAP instead of POP3 because I
 can have seperate folders there.

IMO, you shouldn't be using IMAP. IMAP is about relying on an open
connection. The disconnect mode should be for exceptional
circumstances and not a routine. Routine disconnect operations are
best dealt with using POP3.

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Re[5]: IMAP account won't send message

2004-07-25 Thread Raymund Thomas Tump
Hello Raymund,

 I unchecked all boxes in Mail-Management for predefined folders.

Now with a checkbox for Outbox and the folder Gesendet.

Nothing happened. So there seems to be a problem with the outbox for
GMX.

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