Re: TB for Android? - Take 'k9mail'

2012-06-25 Thread Joerg Schiermeier
Thomas Martin wrote:

 Can  recommend  K-9.  I  bought  Kaiten  Mail  which  is from the same
 developer.  Some  more  function.  But  main  reason was to support the
 developer.

¡Hola Thomas!
¡Muchas gracias y saludos a Buenos Aires!

:-)

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Re: TB for Android? - Take 'k9mail'

2012-06-23 Thread RS (FEDARA)
 On Friday, June 22, 2012, 8:21:16 PM, Joerg Schiermeier wrote:

 I've been pretty happy with k-9. much better than the native app that 
 came with my phone.

Using it for over a year on POP3 bases and originally I wanted to have
a  fast  e-mail  access solution so I set it up to not remove e-mails,
store them so I can access them fast later on if needed on the factory
floor.

Mobile: SonyEricsson Xperia Arc (single core)

Noticed while using:
-  at  the  beginning  it was fast but with time got really slow (main
folder  refresh time, button press time response or opening e-mail was
taking sometimes up to 20-40s),

-  due  to  above  I limited messages to one month and within that one
month time I do mark important ones with STAR and manually remove rest
about  every  3-4  weeks.  That  improved  performance significantly -
assumption  here  would  be  that  K9  is unfortunately refreshing all
messages  list  and  if  there  is  lots  of  messages it gets slow in
response,

- check  e-mail is set to every 5 minutes (I'm 80% of time on 3G) and
for  some  reasons  it  was always about 5-10minutes late comparing to
BlackBerry  (had  opportunity  to  watch its performance for couple of
month  while  I was on the factory floor with a guy using BlackBerry ;
he was always faster with e-mails send to both of us :( )

-  about  6 month ago they implemented feature to save e-mail database
on  SD  card  and  it  solved a problem of eating up precious internal
memory,

-  works  properly  with  displaying all e-mails (not a single one was
displayed   improperly),

-  Chinese  (both  Traditional and Simplified) and Polish are properly
displayed  even  if  languages are mixed (in TB! mixture of Simplified
and  Traditional  Chinese  makes  messages  unreadable ; Replying to a
message  where  Traditional  Characters are included makes Traditional
Characters changed to a unreadable garbage),

-  tried  other clients at the time I was making decision which one to
use and that one was the best for me.

OVERALL NOTE: Satisfied after accepting some of above limitations :)

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Re: TB for Android? - Take 'k9mail'

2012-06-23 Thread Thomas Martin
Hello Joerg,

Friday, June 22, 2012, 10:21:16 PM you wrote:
 Dierk Haasis wrote:

 k9mail
 K-9 Mail is an advanced email client for Android
 http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/

Can  recommend  K-9.  I  bought  Kaiten  Mail  which  is from the same
developer.  Some  more  function.  But  main  reason was to support the
developer.



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TB for Android?

2012-06-22 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello TBBETA Members!

  As I see Voyager still being alive and kicking, wouldn't an
  Android*-version - most probably with some kind of cloud-connection
  [to sync automatically with PC] - be a good idea? Probably better
  than a USB-stick variant?


  *Yeah right, iOS ... as if iOS-users would be able to work TB ...


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Re: TB for Android?

2012-06-22 Thread aam
A Bat-fellow, Dierk Haasis,
wrote on Friday, 22nd June 2012 at 20:12:31 (GMT +0200),
which was ditto in Bratislava --

   *Yeah right, iOS ... as if iOS-users would be able to work TB ...

Very silly remark...  :-p  I've been a happy iOS  TB user for many years,
and wouldn't trade iOS for Android, especially not on the tablet. Oh,
when I say happy, that doesn't really fully apply to TB anymore...
I hear Version 5 is so atrocious I haven't found the courage to
upgrade so far. Of course, iOS's email app is a joke in terms of
ultra-minimal functionality, but at least they got IMAP right,
and I've been using iOS's Mail instead of TB for most short messages
throughout the workday, because TB can be such a pain in the behind
to use oftentimes.  :-/  I nowadays mostly only use TB in the evenings
to clean up my Inbox after a day of work, and to deal with longer
messages that need to be typed.

That being said, I'd welcome TB for iOS, but not if it's such a disaster
as Version 5. I bought iOS's alternative email client, Sparrow, but
it's a disaster, too, next to unusable. Sometimes simple is better,
and Apple are masters in implementing that mantra into practice.

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Re: TB for Android?

2012-06-22 Thread Joerg Schiermeier
Dierk Haasis wrote:

   As I see Voyager still being alive and kicking, wouldn't an
   Android*-version - most probably with some kind of cloud-connection
   [to sync automatically with PC] - be a good idea? Probably better
   than a USB-stick variant?

Yes, good idea. But see this:
Android is Linux.
And 'The Bat!' is running under wine:
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=applicationiId=68

Take it. It works well.

If you can understand German than read also:
http://www.batboard.net/board2-the-bat-allgemein/board69-sonstiges/9260-the-bat-wine-ein-aktueller-bericht

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Re: TB for Android?

2012-06-22 Thread Joerg Schiermeier
Dierk Haasis wrote:

   *Yeah right, iOS ... as if iOS-users would be able to work TB ...

iOS is based on BSD and so on MacOS X.
wine also runs under MacOS X.

Try it.
:-)

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Re: TB for Android?

2012-06-22 Thread Gleason

Joerg,

 Dierk Haasis wrote:

   *Yeah right, iOS ... as if iOS-users would be able to work TB ...

 iOS is based on BSD and so on MacOS X.
 wine also runs under MacOS X.

 Try it.
 :-)

I would be very surprised if you could get Wine to run on iOS. iOS
being an Apple product and Android not being Apple. Android might be
BSD but it isn't iOS. So maybe Wine could run on Android if it isn't
locked down like iOS systems are.


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Re: TB for Android?

2012-06-22 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Friday, June 22, 2012, 1:36:39 PM, a...@avenarius.sk wrote:
 
 wouldn't trade iOS for Android, especially not on the tablet.

I  agree that I haven't seen an android tablet I'd take over my iPad, 
and  my  iPod  touch  is  about  the best for mp3 players, but I sure 
wouldn't  trade  my android phone for the limitations imposed by iOS. 
I've watched friends and family use their iPhones. 

 I hear Version 5 is so atrocious I haven't found the courage to
 upgrade so far. 

very silly remark, etc. You certainly can't believe all you hear. 
  
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Re: TB for Android?

2012-06-22 Thread Eddie
Dear Aam,

 --- a...@avenarius.sk / Friday Fri  22. Jun 2012, 09:36 PM
TB for Android?


   *Yeah right, iOS ... as if iOS-users would be able to work TB ...

You just got me ;)  Now I must answer to your remarks.


 ... Oh, when I say happy, that doesn't really fully apply to TB
 anymore...

I am using TB! since about 1998 and never felt to be left struggling.
When I moved to TB!beta it was obvious that there will be glitches.
But nothing wild so far.


 I hear Version 5 is so atrocious I haven't found the courage to
 upgrade so far.

That is why you find it atrocious because you never upgraded.


 Of course, iOS's email app is a joke in terms of ultra-minimal
 functionality, but at least they got IMAP right,

Sorry, I am using four IMAP accounts with success. Can you make more
accurate statements of what TB! is missing? That sure would help.


 and I've been using iOS's Mail instead of TB for most short
 messages throughout the workday, because TB can be such a pain in
 the behind to use oftentimes. :-/ I nowadays mostly only use TB in
 the evenings to clean up my Inbox after a day of work, and to deal
 with longer messages that need to be typed.

Good for you. It seems you have not gotten it right. I am maintaining
several accounts and use solely TB! on them. So I don't see you
problem.


 That being said, I'd welcome TB for iOS, but not if it's such a
 disaster as Version 5. I bought iOS's alternative email client,
 Sparrow, but it's a disaster, too, next to unusable. Sometimes
 simple is better, and Apple are masters in implementing that
 mantra into practice.

If  you are not happy with TB! under Windows you sure will not like it
under iOS.

Suggestion:  Try  to use TB! in private and business, POP and IMAP and
play a bit more serious. Maybe you can find the Love for it.

Enjoy playing with TB!


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Re: TB for Android?

2012-06-22 Thread Joerg Schiermeier
Gleason wrote:

 being an Apple product and Android not being Apple. Android might be
 BSD but it isn't iOS. So maybe Wine could run on Android if it isn't

Please read what I wrote.
Android isn't BSD.

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Re: TB for Android?

2012-06-22 Thread Vilmos Kertesz
 being an Apple product and Android not being Apple. Android might be
 BSD but it isn't iOS. So maybe Wine could run on Android if it isn't
 Please read what I wrote.
 Android isn't BSD.

There is K9 for Android, do the job. Multiple account, onestep
download. Good business emailer.

Vili


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Re: TB for Android? - Take 'k9mail'

2012-06-22 Thread Joerg Schiermeier
Dierk Haasis wrote:

   Android*-version - most probably with some kind of cloud-connection
   [to sync automatically with PC] - be a good idea? Probably better

So take this one:

k9mail 
K-9 Mail is an advanced email client for Android
http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/

Maybe helps you.

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Re: TB for Android? - Maybe?

2012-06-22 Thread Joerg Schiermeier
I wrote (some time ago):

 Yes, good idea. But see this:
 Android is Linux.
 And 'The Bat!' is running under wine:
 http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=applicationiId=68

There was an error in my thoughts, sorry.
'The Bat!' is running fine under wine on Linux/MacOS X/BSD/... (all
plattforms which are supported by wine.

 Take it. It works well.
Thats true (for 'The Bat!') - but not for wine:
wine didn't work on Android.
See:
http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?p=42525


This is for all 'The Bat!'-user who want to change to Linux (German only):
 If you can understand German than read also:

http://www.batboard.net/board2-the-bat-allgemein/board69-sonstiges/9260-the-bat-wine-ein-aktueller-bericht

Sorry for this confusion I caused by being not clearly and exactly.

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Re: TB for Android? - Take 'k9mail'

2012-06-22 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Friday, June 22, 2012, 8:21:16 PM, Joerg Schiermeier wrote:
 
 k9mail 
 K-9 Mail is an advanced email client for Android
 http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/ 

I've been pretty happy with k-9. much better than the native app that 
came with my phone. 
  
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Re: TB for Android? - Take 'k9mail'

2012-06-22 Thread Matthias Walter
Joerg Schiermeier wrote:


 k9mail 
 K-9 Mail is an advanced email client for Android
 http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/


I use the new Aqua mail. That is certainly well worth a look.

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