Re: 4.2.9.4 - Thai

2009-07-30 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Thomas,

On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:31:51 +0700 GMT (30/Jul/09, 0:31 AM +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:



TF The Thai profile should kick in only when the charset is windows-874
TF (which I can choose), TIS-620 (which does not seem to exist according
TF to TB!, and I  don't know how to import it), and UTF-8 (which is no
TF problem).

TF So, Courier New should be the standard, as it is in the editor, but
TF all messages are displayed in the font defined for Thai. There still
TF seems to be a bug somewhere, not exactly the opposite from what it was
TF before.

TF I should learn to read subject lines. The problem (introduced in
TF 4.2.9.2) is fixed in 4.2.9.4.

Let was true last night when I had just installed 4.2.9.4. Now it
isn't any more:

In the preview pane, the Regular Text (as it is called in the Profile
Layout) and the quoted text is displayed in AngsanaUPC. The Signature
Text is correclty displayed in Courier New.

I have deleted the Thai profile, and it is still the same. Courier New
is set everywhere.

Interesting enough, in the Folder View all is displayed correctly.


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Re: 4.2.9.4 - Thai

2009-07-30 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hi Thomas,

 I have deleted the Thai profile, and it is still the same. Courier New
 is set everywhere.

yes, but it works only with Rich Text/HTML viewer.

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Re: 4.2.9.4 - Thai

2009-07-30 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Miroslav,

On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:39:04 +0200 GMT (30/Jul/09, 23:39 PM +0700 GMT),
Miroslav Florensen wrote:

 I have deleted the Thai profile, and it is still the same. Courier New
 is set everywhere.

MF yes, but it works only with Rich Text/HTML viewer.

I have now disabled Plain Text Viewer in the context menu, and the
messages display correctly even in the Preview Pane. So I confirm what
you are saying.

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Re: 4.2.9.4 - Thai

2009-07-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Thomas,

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:07:15 +0700 GMT (27/Jul/09, 23:07 PM +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF However, it appears that AngsanaUPC is used to display your message,
TF while Courier New is the font in the Generic Profile, and AngsanaUPC
TF is only define in the Thai profile.

TF The Thai profile should kick in only when the charset is windows-874
TF (which I can choose), TIS-620 (which does not seem to exist according
TF to TB!, and I  don't know how to import it), and UTF-8 (which is no
TF problem).

TF So, Courier New should be the standard, as it is in the editor, but
TF all messages are displayed in the font defined for Thai. There still
TF seems to be a bug somewhere, not exactly the opposite from what it was
TF before.

TF Additional info: Working fine in 4.2.9.0, the problem only exists in
TF 4.2.9.2.

TF Reverting back.

TF Not so fast. One more remark: The problem exists only in the message
TF preview, not in the folder view.

TF Reverting now.

I should learn to read subject lines. The problem (introduced in
4.2.9.2) is fixed in 4.2.9.4.

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Re: 4.2.9.4 - Thai

2009-07-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Thomas,

On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:54:59 +0700 GMT (26/Jul/09, 22:54 PM +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF However, it appears that AngsanaUPC is used to display your message,
TF while Courier New is the font in the Generic Profile, and AngsanaUPC
TF is only define in the Thai profile.

TF The Thai profile should kick in only when the charset is windows-874
TF (which I can choose), TIS-620 (which does not seem to exist according
TF to TB!, and I  don't know how to import it), and UTF-8 (which is no
TF problem).

TF So, Courier New should be the standard, as it is in the editor, but
TF all messages are displayed in the font defined for Thai. There still
TF seems to be a bug somewhere, not exactly the opposite from what it was
TF before.

TF Additional info: Working fine in 4.2.9.0, the problem only exists in
TF 4.2.9.2.

TF Reverting back.

Not so fast. One more remark: The problem exists only in the message
preview, not in the folder view.

Reverting now.

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Re: 4.2.9.2 - Thai

2009-07-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim,

On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:39:47 +0300 GMT (26/Jul/09, 21:39 PM +0700 GMT),
Maxim Masiutin wrote:

I get a 404 on this. Has the file already been removed?

MM Yes, unfortunately we have removed this file.

I already confirmed in the BT that the bug was fixed with 4.2.9.0. I
just wanted to try .9.2 because it referred to the same bug. I trust
nothing was broken while fixing the fixed version.

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Re: 4.2.9.2 - Thai

2009-07-26 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Sunday, July 26, 2009, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

 I already confirmed in the BT that the bug was fixed with 4.2.9.0. I
 just wanted to try .9.2 because it referred to the same bug. I trust
 nothing was broken while fixing the fixed version.

check 4.2.9.4

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Re: 4.2.9.2 - Thai

2009-07-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek,

On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:23:48 +0200 GMT (26/Jul/09, 22:23 PM +0700 GMT),
Marek Mikus wrote:

 I already confirmed in the BT that the bug was fixed with 4.2.9.0. I
 just wanted to try .9.2 because it referred to the same bug. I trust
 nothing was broken while fixing the fixed version.

MM check 4.2.9.4

Good point. Please see my reply in the appropriate thread.

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Re: 4.2.9.4 - Thai

2009-07-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim,

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:30:12 +0300 GMT (24/Jul/09, 17:30 PM +0700 GMT),
Maxim Masiutin wrote:


MM The Bat! 4.2.9.4 is available at
MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4294.rar

MM What's new in 4.2.9.4 since 4.2.9.2:
MM [-] Some fixes with Thai: the font selected by the user was ignored in the 
previous beta

Up  running.

However, it appears that AngsanaUPC is used to display your message,
while Courier New is the font in the Generic Profile, and AngsanaUPC
is only define in the Thai profile.

The Thai profile should kick in only when the charset is windows-874
(which I can choose), TIS-620 (which does not seem to exist according
to TB!, and I  don't know how to import it), and UTF-8 (which is no
problem).

So, Courier New should be the standard, as it is in the editor, but
all messages are displayed in the font defined for Thai. There still
seems to be a bug somewhere, not exactly the opposite from what it was
before.

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Re: 4.2.9.4 - Thai

2009-07-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Thomas,

On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:45:16 +0700 GMT (26/Jul/09, 22:45 PM +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:
MM The Bat! 4.2.9.4 is available at
MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4294.rar

MM What's new in 4.2.9.4 since 4.2.9.2:
MM [-] Some fixes with Thai: the font selected by the user was ignored in the 
previous beta

TF Up  running.

TF However, it appears that AngsanaUPC is used to display your message,
TF while Courier New is the font in the Generic Profile, and AngsanaUPC
TF is only define in the Thai profile.

TF The Thai profile should kick in only when the charset is windows-874
TF (which I can choose), TIS-620 (which does not seem to exist according
TF to TB!, and I  don't know how to import it), and UTF-8 (which is no
TF problem).

TF So, Courier New should be the standard, as it is in the editor, but
TF all messages are displayed in the font defined for Thai. There still
TF seems to be a bug somewhere, not exactly the opposite from what it was
TF before.

Additional info: Working fine in 4.2.9.0, the problem only exists in
4.2.9.2.

Reverting back.

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Re: 4.2.9.0 Thai

2009-07-24 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim,

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:50:52 +0300 GMT (22/Jul/09, 17:50 PM +0700 GMT),
Maxim Masiutin wrote:

To confuse matters, the messages display fine here in both RTV and PTV.

MM Do you speak about http://thebat.zetema.de/samples/thai-bug_EML.rar ? 

Yes. I downloaded that file just to find it is one of the mails I
sent. Displaying fine in both RTV and PTV 0ver here.

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Re: 4.2.9.0 Thai

2009-07-24 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hi Thomas,
 
 Displaying fine in both RTV and PTV 0ver here.

what font do you use?

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Re: 4.2.9.0 Thai

2009-07-24 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mackley,

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:20:43 +0200 GMT (23/Jul/09, 0:20 AM +0700 GMT),
Mackley wrote:

M For a good monospaced font with Unicode support I suggest
M http://www.fixedsysexcelsior.com

Thai doesn't look good when monospaced.

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Re: 4.2.9.0 Thai

2009-07-24 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Miroslav,

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:42:55 +0200 GMT (24/Jul/09, 21:42 PM +0700 GMT),
Miroslav Florensen wrote:

 Displaying fine in both RTV and PTV 0ver here.

MF what font do you use?

I don't know where I set this in TB! a long time ago. Please enlighten
me.

However, I always set my Thai font to AngsualUPC when I find a
setting.

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Re: 4.2.9.0 Thai

2009-07-24 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hi Thomas,

 I don't know where I set this in TB! a long time ago. Please enlighten
 me.

Options » preferences » Viewer/Editor | Profile Layout
http://thebat.zetema.de/samples/font-settings.gif

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Re: 4.2.9.0 Thai

2009-07-24 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Miroslav,

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:13:24 +0200 GMT (24/Jul/09, 22:13 PM +0700 GMT),
Miroslav Florensen wrote:

 I don't know where I set this in TB! a long time ago. Please enlighten
 me.

MF Options » preferences » Viewer/Editor | Profile Layout
MF http://thebat.zetema.de/samples/font-settings.gif

AngsanaUPC.

However, this is under the Thai profile, which kicks in when a mail
arrive in windows-874 or tis-620 or utf-8.

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Re: 4.2.9.0 Thai

2009-07-24 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hi Thomas,

 AngsanaUPC.

OK. It works correct with thai messages. But this font is not in my XP
font folder. I found this font in a Vista installation.


 However, this is under the Thai profile, which kicks in when a mail
 arrive in windows-874 or tis-620 or utf-8.

But you must define a special profile. 'Normal' messages displayed
creepy with this font. In earlier TB! versions it was not necessary to
define a special profile.

http://thebat.zetema.de/samples/Courier-vs-AngsanaUPC-thai-message.gif


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Re: 4.2.9.0 Thai

2009-07-24 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Miroslav,

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:17:43 +0200 GMT (25/Jul/09, 0:17 AM +0700 GMT),
Miroslav Florensen wrote:

 AngsanaUPC.

MF OK. It works correct with thai messages. But this font is not in my XP
MF font folder. I found this font in a Vista installation.

I don't know why it is in my XO font filder. Chances are, I downloaded
it a couple of years ago.

 However, this is under the Thai profile, which kicks in when a mail
 arrive in windows-874 or tis-620 or utf-8.

MF But you must define a special profile. 'Normal' messages displayed
MF creepy with this font. In earlier TB! versions it was not necessary to
MF define a special profile.

I have a special profile on this computer, and I confirm Thai
displays well on my office computer (4.0.28) without special profile.
I am a bit reluctant to put a beta on my office computer, so I cannot
test what you are saying.

MF http://thebat.zetema.de/samples/Courier-vs-AngsanaUPC-thai-message.gif

Yes, AngsanaUPC does not look so nice in English. That's why I liked
the former version of TB! where I could set Courier New for PTV and
AngsanaUPC for RTV.


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Re: 4.2.9.0 - Thai

2009-07-21 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Miroslav,

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:05:30 +0200 GMT (21/Jul/09, 23:05 PM +0700 GMT),
Miroslav Florensen wrote:

 [-] (#0007654) Thai mail unreadable since 4.1.x

MF not fixed.

MF http://thebat.zetema.de/samples/thai_bug.png

That's weird. The mails I sent to this list (i.e. the links were to
download them) as well as some others I just tested, are displayed
correctly over here now.

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Re: 4.2.9.0 - Thai

2009-07-21 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim,

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:25:16 +0300 GMT (21/Jul/09, 22:25 PM +0700 GMT),
Maxim Masiutin wrote:

MM [-] (#0007654) Thai mail unreadable since 4.1.x

Confirm fixed over here.

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Re: 4.2.9.0 - Thai

2009-07-21 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hi Thomas,

 That's weird. The mails I sent to this list (i.e. the links were to
 download them) as well as some others I just tested, are displayed
 correctly over here now.

I tested the thai mails on a different machine with a new TB!
installation (4.2.6 MSI » v4.2.9 EXE), with and without Batskin.XML -
same result.

WinXP PRO/SP2 Classic theme


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Thai

2009-07-17 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Tbbeta,

  Could you please compress some Thai EML files that are impropertly displayed 
to RAR, and attach it this RAR to the bugtracker. Our bugtracker web interface 
is not very convenient when it comes to uncompressed attachments and I cannot 
properly download the file LogisticsDigest.EML from 
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7654

  We would prefer RAR-compressed attachments to the bugtracker, in future.


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Re: Thai

2009-07-17 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Maxim,

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:58:29 +0300 GMT (17/Jul/09, 22:58 +0700 GMT),
Maxim Masiutin wrote:

MM   Could you please compress some Thai EML files that are
MM impropertly displayed to RAR, and attach it this RAR to the
MM bugtracker. Our bugtracker web interface is not very convenient
MM when it comes to uncompressed attachments and I cannot properly
MM download the file LogisticsDigest.EML from
MM https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7654

I don't have a RAR packer on my computer but uploaded a ZIP-compressed
file to the bugtracker. If you still cannot download it correctly,
please download the following messages:

http://www.tf-web.gmxhome.de/TheBat/LogisticsDigest.EML
http://www.tf-web.gmxhome.de/TheBat/Wong.EML
http://www.tf-web.gmxhome.de/TheBat/splendid.eml

This will also give you more examples to test with.

Additional infos:

1.) Mails in UTF-8 display fine even in 4.1.x and 4.2.x, only
Windows-874 and TIS-620 encoded messages don't.

2.) Subject lines in all messages display fine.

MM   We would prefer RAR-compressed attachments to the bugtracker, in future.

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Re: Thai

2009-07-17 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:04:11 +0700, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

We would prefer RAR-compressed attachments to the bugtracker, 
in future.

Well noted.

Just for the record: I didn't encounter any problem whatsoever
downloading and viewing your .eml file from the bugtracker. Which
leads to the preliminary conclusion that [connection reset]


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