Will bugs being fixed this cycle?
Hello -=Curtis=-, Are you going to fix bugs in this version? Especially bugs which are made in 3.50.xx? This current release contained a long list of fixes with bugtraq codes beside the majority of them and you ask this??? As you (or at least I) never know what Ritlabs is doing next [1]: Yes. [1] My guess is, that there will be two more betas, which introduce incomplete features, then the look to the date and release v4 :-). -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.60.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Will bugs being fixed this cycle?
On Wednesday, August 17, 2005, at 02:32 PM, Boris Anders wrote: As you (or at least I) never know what Ritlabs is doing next [1]: Yes. [1] My guess is, that there will be two more betas, which introduce incomplete features, then the look to the date and release v4 :-). They've always addressed bugs from previous versions. This current beta demonstrates this. So to answer your specific question, the answer would certainly be yes. Whether or not they go on to introduce new features that introduce new bugs and issues, which in turn distract them from adequately/promptly dealing with old bugs, is another thing. This seems to be what you were specifically referring to. To that, I'd say that it seems to me that with their current approach where simply debugging is too boring and greatly reduces productivity or motivation for them, this issue of some easily reproducible and significant bugs existing for long periods before being fixed will remain. We just have to hope that what isn't important for many will not be show-stoppers for us as individuals. -- -= Curtis=- Using TB! v3.60.01 System Specs: http://specs.aimlink.name =-=-= ...Simon says: don't be so suggestible. Current beta is 3.60.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: bugs not fixed
Hello Dwight, On Friday, September 07, 2001 at 3:59:48 PM you wrote: DAC This would be my attitude as well. If there were a draft folder, then DAC it could be bold instead, but as long as there isn't there should be a DAC signal in the out box. Sorry for jumping in this late, but just in this second there was one thing that came to my mind. I was not sure if I remembered correctly so I said nothing but right now I made a test ... successfully!!! (that means I remembered correctly *g*) Have a look at the tiny little icon of your outbox ... isn't it nice? :-) A nice folder with a green arrow pointing outward :-) Now create a new message ... type only a recipient in (otherwise TB! wont let you save, even not at draft ... another thing I can't really understand ... but OK) ... and Save as draft (I do use Alt+F2 for it, you can of course also use the menu for it :-) ). Now have again a detailed look at the icon in front of the outbox You see the tiny little hourglass in the lower left corner??? Go into the Outbox ... use Ctrl+D (or menu command) to unset the 'parking' (draft) flag. The hourglass disappears. The icon turns from yellow to green, the folder becomes written in bold. Set the parking flag again (by mouse click, menu command or Ctrl+J), the bold disappears, green turns to yellow, hourglass appears ... On ... Off ... On ... Off ... Mark the message as 'unread' (even is this does not make any sense :-) ) ... green/yellow turns to read. Park the message: red icon plus hourglass .. All in all: there _IS_ an indicator if there're drafted messages in outbox :-) OK ... it could be somehow better visible/recognizable but nevertheless you can't deny the fact _it is there_ :-) That's just my 0.02 I wanteed to spend to this discussion :-))) P.S.: Please don't terminate my if the colors differ!!! This could be because I use a customized 'glyphs.bmp' or you do :-) -- Best Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/8 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) It isn't the fall that kills the child, it is the splattering of the brain against the inside of the skull. -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/8
Re: bugs not fixed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Peter, On Sun, 9 Sep 2001 11:56:08 +0200, you thoughtfully wrote the following: ... PP All in all: there _IS_ an indicator if there're drafted messages PP in outbox :-) OK ... it could be somehow better PP visible/recognizable but nevertheless you can't deny the fact _it PP is there_ :-) If you use the high color icons, it's more visible. - -- ©Allie C Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) PGP public key: http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com __ MUA: The Bat! 1.54 Beta/8 [OS: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2] _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Sealed for security. iEYEARECAAYFAjubXJoACgkQV8nrYCsHF+JRagCgwN6SQulgVhyzSIMA/VVzYPNY vA4AnA37cIb0miEO3UQQ3PCvy3Gz/YLV =8U8p -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/8
Re: bugs not fixed
Hello Allie, On Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 2:12:08 PM you wrote: ACM Hi Peter, ACM On Sun, 9 Sep 2001 11:56:08 +0200, you thoughtfully wrote the ACM following: ACM ... PP All in all: there _IS_ an indicator if there're drafted messages PP in outbox :-) OK ... it could be somehow better PP visible/recognizable but nevertheless you can't deny the fact _it PP is there_ :-) ACM If you use the high color icons, it's more visible. You mean Options / Preferences / High colour images (change effective after restart) like in the attached image? This is my default since ... since ... since I detected that setting :-) I believe very strong my Hercules Kyro-II is able to not slow down system for High Colors so I decided to switch it on in my very first TB-days :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/8 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) Like many of the finer things in life, sex often comes with a side of fries. preferences_general.png
Re: bugs not fixed
Hei, Thomas F wrote: GE - Outbox with a draft message in it still shows not bold (as it is in GE 1.53o) I think that's by design. Actually, I like it. Hm, it has changed from 1.53o to 1.54. The problem for me is that I draft messages very seldom. A bold Outbox remembers me: There is something in the Outbox which you have to handle - either an unsent message or a draft. DON'T FORGET. See no reason why this should be changed, actually. -- Regards, Günther German TB! faq, and cut.exe - delete ads in mails http://www.guenther-eisele.de/bat/ TheBat! 1.53o, Windows NT 5.0 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/8
Re: bugs not fixed
Hello Günther, On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:57:40 +0200GMT (07/09/2001, 17:57 +0800GMT), Günther Eisele wrote: GE The problem for me is that I draft messages very seldom. A bold GE Outbox remembers me: There is something in the Outbox which you GE have to handle - either an unsent message or a draft. DON'T GE FORGET. See no reason why this should be changed, actually. 1.) There will still be a 1 instead of a 0 in the number of messages column. This means there is something in the outbox. 2.) We will get a draft folder if we keep lobbying, I hope. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53o under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 with a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/8
Re: bugs not fixed
Hei, Thomas F wrote: 1.) There will still be a 1 instead of a 0 in the number of messages column. This means there is something in the outbox. Yeah, but it's quite small (and with this additional horizontal scroll bar I have to keep it small to not continuously have the whole screen shifted). Well, I have to be honest, it's simply hard if you relied on the bold thing to now take care of the number. But I'm willing to learn: What advantage has it to un-bold it? Okay - in the other folders bold means: 'unread message in it', and not 'something to do'. But what advantage (besides of the logic) is there? 2.) We will get a draft folder if we keep lobbying, I hope. ;-) This would also be ok [one of the things which were not to bad in OE], but for me (three heavily used mail accounts, which are always open) this would mean three additional folders on the left side. Outbox was an effective way of putting two 'meanings' into one (I said before, that I'd like the style 1.53 and all previous versions had :-)). -- Regards, Günther German TB! faq, and cut.exe - delete ads in mails http://www.guenther-eisele.de/bat/ TheBat! 1.53o, Windows NT 5.0 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/8
Re[2]: bugs not fixed
hi Günther, Friday, September 07, 2001, 2:31:38 PM, you wrote: 2.) We will get a draft folder if we keep lobbying, I hope. ;-) GE This would also be ok [one of the things which were not to bad in OE], but GE for me (three heavily used mail accounts, which are always open) this GE would mean three additional folders on the left side. Outbox was an GE effective way of putting two 'meanings' into one (I said before, that I'd GE like the style 1.53 and all previous versions had :-)). Well, perhaps someone could create a poll and let the users vote on it. That would be a fair way to let RITLabs know what the die-hard users want, and it'll be fair too. Personally, I prefer the old way to the new one. Just my .02$ -- regards, KaKTuZ Sometimes, the sound of goodbye is louder than any drumbeat... Èb½ë!¶ÚþÖÛzÖ æÚµÛj)ír¡×«jÚ+²f¢Ú-m·jj z¶¢»- æÚµÛj)ír˱Êâmé[hµ¶Þµ«§²æìr¸zØ^m«]ºÖ¢×(¶zËAzÖµçÞµ¯ü
Re[2]: bugs not fixed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas On 07 September 2001 at 18:42:10 +0800 (which was 11:42 where I live) Thomas F thoughtfully wrote the following TF 2.) We will get a draft folder if we keep lobbying, I hope. ;-) I want one as well. - -- Ti2GO,___ David | SecureBat! 1.53r/beta/iKey1000| E-mailaholics | _| Win 2K Server 5.0.2195 SP2 | International | | How do make a cat float? Start with two scoops of cat... | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 06) Comment: PGP Signed, sealed, delivered. iQA/AwUBO5ix//mK8eZlD0U0EQItGQCfYrjfljKDwnhVOW6JeMSWybG89uwAoPIq jRfqkpXy1ThT1X63PGpraWrS =QWlW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/8
Re: bugs not fixed
Hello Günther, On Friday, September 07, 2001 at 1:31:38 PM you wrote (at least in part): GE Okay - in the other folders bold means: 'unread message in it', and not GE 'something to do'. *eeehhmmm* ... sorry if I'm misunderstanding something, but: does 'unread messages left' not implicit 'something to do' ? I mean: if there're unread messages I _have to do_ something: read them ... So maybe this two things _are_ in fact logically the same ?!?!? -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/8 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Well! I've often seen a cat without a grin, but a grin without a cat! (Alice in Wonderland) -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/8
Re[2]: bugs not fixed
Hi, Gunther! GE Thomas F wrote: 1.) There will still be a 1 instead of a 0 in the number of messages column. This means there is something in the outbox. GE Yeah, but it's quite small (and with this additional horizontal scroll bar GE I have to keep it small to not continuously have the whole screen GE shifted). Well, I have to be honest, it's simply hard if you relied on the GE bold thing to now take care of the number. But I'm willing to learn: What GE advantage has it to un-bold it? Okay - in the other folders bold means: GE 'unread message in it', and not 'something to do'. But what advantage GE (besides of the logic) is there? Well - for me for example, when I have any unread messages, the bat's icon is animated. I use this as a little reminder that I have some messages to read. Therefore, if I have any messages in the outbox that would make the outbox bold, they would also make the bat icon fly and thus make it impossible for me to know whether I really have some mail I should read. Note - I haven't actually tried the new version, but it sounds like an improvement to me, since just having a message in the outbox shouldn't make the icon animate. -- Leo Zelevinsky Using The Bat! v1.53bis on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/8
