Re[2]: The Bat! - bug report - an easy way to crack access password
Hello, Wednesday, October 13, 1999, You wrote: Hi Alexander Tuesday, October 12, 1999, you wrote: AD 5) Start TB! - it will not ask you anymore for password... Note, ADthat .msb file is still encrypted. No, it isn't. Simply copy "encrypted" .msb file into any other folder (i.e. in account without password), start The Bat and you can read messages stored in this "encrypted" g file. Not a good work. This feature will be in version 2 of TB. 2All: By the way, it looks that some macros are now case sensitive (look into header, I must rewrite From and Reply-to address, To field is unchanged). In message header macros must be typing in uppercase, but in message body mustn't (my address bottom is inserted correctly). I have the same problem in "HEADER" of "REPLY" template only :-((( Bye Marek Mikus Using the best The Bat! 1.36 under the worst Windows 95 4.0 Build B Intel Celeron 266 MHz, 32 MB -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Another suggestion
Hi!
Another small suggestion for future versions:
German versions of Microsoft e-mail programs often use "AW:"
("Antwort") instead of "Re:". It would be nice if TB recognized and
deleted it...
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Re: How to use the name prefix
Oliver, On Thursday, October 14, 1999, at 4:47 you wrote: OS That seems to be it. Hm, nobody about USING that prefix for OS something nice? OS Oliver Sturm Hmmm, don't know if this is exactly what you want, but I set up new message templates for certain people in my addressbook. For example, my parents e-mail address entry in the addressbook has this as the new message template: *** Start *** Hey mom and dad, %CURSOR %COOKIE %PUT="C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Includes\Dominant Sig.txt" *** End *** You could just as easily change the "Hey mom and dad," to say Mr. Dad or whatever. In addition, I made the nickname for the addressbook "dad", so all I do is type "dad" in the TO field, hit enter and then click in the message body. Other than that, I don't think TB actually uses the name prefix in the addressbook entry when creating a message. It is most likely just for informational purposes. A belly button is for the seeds when you eat watermelon in bed. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site http://www.biogate.com/vbok TBUDL FAQ http://www.biogate.com/TheBat Using The Bat! 1.36 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: SPAM
Hello Andrew, Thursday, Thursday, October 14, 1999, you wrote: Andrew K. Lovetski Hello, The Bat Users! It says delete from server, does that mean before or after downloading it OR is it smart enough to filter on the header and kill / delete it before wasting my time getting it to my pc??. Andrew K. Lovetski If you use Kill filters, then the mail gets deleted on server without Andrew K. Lovetski downloading it. If you use Incoming mail filters and the checkbox Andrew K. Lovetski "Delete from server" on Actions Tab, then the mail is downloaded, then Andrew K. Lovetski deleted from server (makes sense only if you use "Leave messages on Andrew K. Lovetski server" in account's preferences). I like to but info seems to be missing to set it to detect properly like I can after receiving it... [Undisclosed] [recipient list not shown: ;] are 2 strings which are very efficient in dumping 90% or so of my spam. (NOTE: please remove those 2 when answering as otherwise I may never see the answer Even with this mailing list being filtered before the spam : those are the last filters...) Ok, a few others are using those so I checked and had one mail list change their addressing string but for the rest the only ones I know I am killing off is USA.net and thats their own fault as they KNOW about all the spam and insist on using the same strings as the spammers As I mentioned, another 5 % is spam mail where sender and receiver are the same or both blank. The rest is silly addresses with odd letter strings, no idea how to kill those off. But I would love to get emails with these 2 strings killed on the server and not download the mail first... Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Language Module
Hi there! I use the language module for the Bat! 1.36 for the use of the Dutch language. After selecting the language 'dutch' only the words and options in the taskbar change to Dutch (not all, but most options). But, the words in the inbox (From-to-subject etc) do not change to Dutch. They are still in English. Can someone please tell me if that;s normal or how I can change that in Dutch too? \\'alter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Language Module
Hello \\'alter, Thursday, October 14, 1999, 4:01:14 PM, you wrote: a I use the language module for the Bat! 1.36 for the use of the Dutch language. a After selecting the language 'dutch' only the words and options in the a taskbar change to Dutch (not all, but most options). a But, the words in the inbox (From-to-subject etc) do not change to a Dutch. They are still in English. a Can someone please tell me if that;s normal or how I can change that a in Dutch too? Had the same problem here, but most things appeared in German... (go figure)... I wrote about it directly to RIT but never got an answer... The only thing to do about it is re-translate the language module... (afaik) -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat 1.35 on Windows 98 build 4.10 24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case - coincidence?? - I think not! **==** If you believe in Light it's because of Obscurity If you believe in Joy it's because of Sadeness If you believe in God then you have to believe in the Devil * Father X, Exorcist, Church of Notre Dame - Paris * **==** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Another suggestion
Hi! Alexander V. Kiselev [EMAIL PROTECTED] about "Another suggestion": I'd much more love to be able to manage the contents of *every* header field via macroses, this way every user could do whatever he/she wants without bloating the code with all those "zuruck"'s:-)) BTW, this reminds me of regular expressions once more. I *hope* RITs are planning to add more support for Perl regexps in the future... See above for one possible application. That would be the most "simple" solution, of course... -- Christian GassmannPGP keys: RSA 0x6975E6D3 - DH/DSS 0x83BD18C5 Internet Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ UIN: 12893571 Using The Bat! 1.36 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 5 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: The Bat! - suggestions
Hello, The Bat Users! AK The properties windows should be resizable, so you don't have to AK scroll so much while designing message templates. PG I do not think it would be so useful : the easiest way to design a PG template seems to use the editor, and benefit from all its PG features (justify, signatures, spell checker, etc), and do a PG copy/paste when finished. BTW, it's another good point: why TB does not use it's editor for editing message templates? When entering any template, there is no alignement functions (Alt+L, Alt+J), for example. Other functions are missing, too. -- Best regards, Andrewmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.36 S/N E9230B5C under Russian Windows 95 4.0 Build B on an AMD-K5-133 with 32Mb EDO 60ns RAM and Samsung WNR-31601A 1.6Gb hard disk -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Language Module
Bonjour, Thursday, October 14, 1999, 4:01:14 PM, \\'alter wrote: a Hi there! a I use the language module for the Bat! 1.36 for the use of the Dutch language. a After selecting the language 'dutch' only the words and options in the a taskbar change to Dutch (not all, but most options). a But, the words in the inbox (From-to-subject etc) do not change to a Dutch. They are still in English. a Can someone please tell me if that;s normal or how I can change that a in Dutch too? In French it does make these changes (From: -- De:, etc.) I have to say it's not so important for me : most of people use english terms when speaking about Internet (using english adds an information : if someone say me that the From: is X I know he is speaking about a mail, this wouldn't be the case if he was speaking about a "de") And I support the idea of Alexander : Thursday, October 14, 1999, 5:04:55 PM, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: I'd much more love to be able to manage the contents of *every* header field via macroses, this way every user could do whatever he/she wants without bloating the code with all those "zuruck"'s:-)) A bientôt Philippe Elle voulait pas risquer sa vie entiere, sur mon histoire qui tenait pas debout (William Scheller) -- Philippe Gouillou - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.st-kilda.com FAQs francophones en Psychologie : www.st-kilda.com/psyfaqs.htm "Les femmes des riches sont belles" : www.evopsy.org/livre.htm -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Spell checker
On Thursday, October 14, 1999, 1:25:16 AM, Steve wrote: Adding misspelled strings to the dictionary just means you could miss legit problems in the body. That's why I put "misspelled" in quotes; I was referring to strings such as (in this case) foreign words that the spell checker is going to flag, but which are nonetheless valid in the context of the message. TB! is smart enough to remove properly formed sigs so the recognition is there. What constitutes a "properly formed sig"? The spell checker doesn't take any notice of the "-- " delimiter. -- Cheers Ian G. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[3]: Spell checker
On Wednesday, October 13, 1999, 4:19:48 PM, Christian wrote: Why? You can add the "misspelled" strings to the dictionary and that way they wont be flagged anywhere. As an added bonus, if you use those strings elsewhere but get them wrong, they will be flagged. I use English signatures and cookies with my regular (German) mail, but I use the German dictionary, of course. Now I don't want to add all the cookies to this dictionary - this wouldn't make any sense. Ah! Point taken! The editor "TextPad" has a feature that allows you to use .tlx and .clx files to create multilingual spell checkers. Maybe that would be another option? -- Cheers Ian G. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[3]: PGP Check Signature does not work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Oliver, n i'm using PGP 6.0.2i and the PGP 6.0.x/6.5.x plug-in but "check n digital signature" does not work. all i get is an empty "PGPlog" n window. anyone else with the same problems? [cut] I' using PGP 6.5.1 (US, since pgpi.com announced Version i for October, 1st and nothing happens). Option "PGP-sign" writes: (a) "Version: PGP 6.0.2i" (see below) (b) adds "- " above "With best..." (see below) (c) destroys quoted block (see above) (d) "Hash: SHA1" (see above) Why (a),(b),(c) and what does (d) mean? Auto-check-signature doesn't work here with 6.5.1 (or maybe TB! thinks there's a 6.0.2i installed, which _was_ installed but I made a complete uninstall). - -- With best regards, Claudius Regn mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.36 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.0.2i iQA/AwUBOAXtFUBdP0XmJHLbEQL0kACeNhwWXTEnCj1ViLtpie4f1qStHz0AnRN4 ptJ8hb55rgh/jMUkSdIqpMxf =MO3l -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Internal picture viewer
Hello, Oleg. On Wednesday, October 13, 1999, 3:17:50 AM, you wrote: Received: from growl.pobox.com [208.210.124.27] by airswitch.net (SMTPD32-5.05) id AFE81D20116; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 03:24:56 -0600 Received: by growl.pobox.com (Postfix, from userid 15) id 8A971C755; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 05:29:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thebat.dutaint.com (list.thebat.dutaint.com [202.134.1.244]) by growl.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67C6C405 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 05:29:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.rosprint.net by thebat.dutaint.com with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.8.6.0a.R) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:27:28 +0700 Received: from ok.smr.in.rosprint.ru (ip142.intra.global-one.ru [194.84.254.142]) by mail1.rosprint.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11343 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:17:09 +0400 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:17:50 +0500 From: Oleg Zalyalov [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.36) S/N C7060B67 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Global One X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Christian Gassmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Internal picture viewer In-reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Message-ID-Original: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MDMailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MDSend-Notifications-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-UIDL: 237601899 Status: U Okay...There has been some discussion of broken threads on this list. The Bat! does not appear to me to handle threading as well as Agent (although better than most competitors). Can anyone tell me how the current thread got broken? Both Christian's and Oleg's messages were composed using The Bat! However, Oleg's In-Reply-To somehow appears to have been mangled, thus breaking the thread. Am I missing something? Keith Russell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: PGP Check Signature does not work
Thursday, October 14, 1999, 8:56:25 AM, Claudius wrote: (a) "Version: PGP 6.0.2i" (see below) (b) adds "- " above "With best..." (see below) (c) destroys quoted block (see above) (d) "Hash: SHA1" (see above) Why (a),(b),(c) and what does (d) mean? Auto-check-signature doesn't work here with 6.5.1 (or maybe TB! thinks there's a 6.0.2i installed, which _was_ installed but I made a complete uninstall). A: No clue. B: Since PGP uses dashes in its beginning and ending block sequence it escapes all lines beginning with a dash inside the block it is signing with "- ". C: No clue. D: This tells PGP which hashing algorithm was used. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Text files as attachments
Hi Alexander V. Kiselev, On Donnerstag, 14. Oktober 1999 at 0:23:38 you wrote: AVK It's not really related to Lotus *that* much, I think. It will AVK work this way with any other e-mail app (I can reproduce it with AVK sending *.txt files with Pegasus Mail and then reading them with AVK TB, FYI) provided that it says Content-type: text/plain n the AVK subheaders of this textual attachment, as I've already written in AVK one of my previous messages. Wow, looking at the above quoted block, I really start disliking that really comfortable auto-format behaviour I already wrote about ;) AVK Actually, I like this behaviour very much (i.e., displaying the AVK contents of textual attachments on the tabs), coz otherwise one AVK would need to double-click on such attachment in the attchments AVK area --- and all that only to have Notepad launched... Yes, I really like the tab part, too. AVK The only problem is saving such attachments --- this is clearly AVK a oversight on the part of programmers, hope it will be fixed AVK some day:-) Well, let's hope for that! Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: PGP Check Signature does not work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Claudius. On Thursday, October 14, 1999, 9:56:25 AM, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I' using PGP 6.5.1 (US, since pgpi.com announced Version i for October, 1st and nothing happens). Option "PGP-sign" writes: (a) "Version: PGP 6.0.2i" (see below) (b) adds "- " above "With best..." (see below) (c) destroys quoted block (see above) (d) "Hash: SHA1" (see above) Why (a),(b),(c) and what does (d) mean? Auto-check-signature doesn't work here with 6.5.1 (or maybe TB! thinks there's a 6.0.2i installed, which _was_ installed but I made a complete uninstall). Fascinating. I'm also using 6.5.1. I just tested it, and mine is identified as 6.5i in the signature! FWIW, I have never had an international version installed on this PC. Is The Bat! just misinterpreting the '1' as an 'i'? 8-) I don't see (c), but (b) and (d) are as you describe (and as expected). - -- Keith Russell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOAYY48iTw8jL6L4yEQKGGgCgs3Dv+tojiktXuqglP+nknjl6bvoAn3c/ ovfu7We3+MeiZJkQYCMRiFJD =JAde -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: PGP Check Signature does not work
Hello, everyone. On Thursday, October 14, 1999, 5:05:02 PM, Christian wrote: Hi! Keith Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] about "PGP Check Signature does not work": Fascinating. I'm also using 6.5.1. I just tested it, and mine is identified as 6.5i in the signature! FWIW, I have never had an international version installed on this PC. Is The Bat! just misinterpreting the '1' as an 'i'? 8-) The version number is hardcoded into the plugin (batpgp65.dll). Ah...So it's just a typo? Keith mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Repost: Dispatch Mail on Server
Hello Keith Russell, On Friday, October 15, 1999, 2:26:45 AM you told us: [ ... ] KR Thanks. So...It appears that even though I have Leave Mail on KR Server enabled, if I've downloaded a message once, Dispatch will KR no longer show it? The Bat! found about 200 messages this morning, KR but Dispatch now shows only 2. (I just checked to be sure using KR Becky, and it downloaded 274 messages. KR So this raises the question of how I delete messages left on the KR server. Have you enable "Keep message on server for xx days" or "delete message on server when it is remove from trash" ? If yes, TB will remove "match" message in next session connect. BTW. It would be nice if TB have "wipe message on Server command", which delete all message on Server without downloading first (this is usefull if we leave message on Server for certain account) and for IMAP account, "synchronize command" will help too. -- - syafril - Name: Syafril Hermansyah | Company : Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 URL : www.dutaint.co.id | FAX : (62) (21) 351-9241 I am using The Bat! 1.36 registered at Windows NT Workstation 4.0 built 1381, Service Pack 5 Created : Friday, October 15, 1999, 10:04:53 (GMT + 07:00) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Repost: Dispatch Mail on Server
On Thursday, October 14, 1999, 8:26:45 PM, Keith wrote: Thanks. So...It appears that even though I have Leave Mail on Server enabled, if I've downloaded a message once, Dispatch will no longer show it? Not in my experience, but you have to select the option to show all mails rather just new ones. So this raises the question of how I delete messages left on the server. Show all messages and then select the ones to be deleted. -- Cheers Ian G. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
