Re[2]: Surprise...
Hi Ian, on Wednesday, November 24, 1999, 3:50:14 PM GMT+0800, Ian Gore wrote: And the three letters were... ali. Since TB! has autocompletion based on name it is, IMHO, very dangerously and very incorrectly introducing false and misleading data into its own database. Clearly Ali Martin's address is not [EMAIL PROTECTED] yet that is what my TB! completes to. IG I've been bitten by that one too! On the other hand I like IG autocompletion. Any suggestions (other than "be more careful")? How about: "check before you hit 'send'"? :-P -- Best regards, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.38 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: The TBUDL
On Tuesday, November 23, 1999, Ali Martin wrote: I have this funny feeling that a %skipheader type macro will soon be introduced. Our developers do listen, I've come to realize. :) They do seem to listen. I just installed 1.36 and I see that Mr. Bat is gone on the URL indicator, replaced with an icon that doesn't obscure the line. I'll miss Mr. Bat, but it's more professional looking now. I can put the tool bar across the top of the main window - Yea! - but I don't know about some of these new icons. Lime green is my absolutely least favorite color. :*( -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.36 (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: nostalgic for old Xmas logo?
On Tuesday, November 23, 1999, joshua allen r. day wrote: SH You must take a look the new logo in current beta (1.38 Beta 3), SH The Bat with christmast cap ...wow... yeah, it's very well done... a beautiful piece of art... Is the splash screen returning? :( -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.36 (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: The TBUDL
On Tuesday, November 23, 1999, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: On 23 November 1999 at 21:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] told the list: Don't use the automatic reply address: Fred Huddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why not? Use: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why? I think the suggestion was made to someone who had posted a new message (started a new thread) by replying to another message, which makes the threading goofy sometimes. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.36 (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Surprise...
Steve Lamb wrote: And the three letters were... ali. Since TB! has autocompletion based on name it is, IMHO, very dangerously and very incorrectly introducing false and misleading data into its own database. Clearly Ali Martin's address is not [EMAIL PROTECTED] yet that is what my TB! completes to. That's a good one Steve. If I was one who liked using autocomplete, I would've picked it up already. :) -- * Ali Martin mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Keyboard: Device used to enter errors into the computer *** Using The Bat! v1.38 Beta/3 [-] Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 6) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: nostalgic for old Xmas logo?
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 SH The Bat with christmast cap ...wow... PF Is the splash screen returning? :( It never left... it just seems to have evolved... it is a bit smoother/better/(cuter?) drawing... to be quite frank, I miss the old simply out of nostalgia routine, but... I guess it's time for a little change... maybe. As for the old returning? I doubt it... joshua http://jarday.com - 1.38 Beta/3 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Shortcuts (was: Re: Threading)
Tuesday, November 23, 1999, 7:25:10 PM, Thomas wrote: I'd like to try "idiot mode". However, before I do that, kindly let me know how to disable "idiot mode" again. ;-) Come now, figuring out how to exit it is the test to prove you're worthy of disabling it in the first place. ;) -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[3]: Navigating Folders (Was: Re: %Cursor)
On Tuesday, November 23, 1999, 11:21:53 AM, Oleg wrote: J If you only use the main ! window then it isn't really neccessary to J implent a key for that, as the account tree is a maximum of two J tab-presses away. But I still agree it would be useful for J folder-view, or if the folders with new mails are far out of each J other. Uh, yeah. Yes, it is. But the next folder with unread mail is not necessarily so close. Fast search is not of much help there since it works on the first letter only. I'm not sure how Fast Search helps, but it looks for any occurrence of the search string, not just the first letter. -- Cheers Ian G. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[4]: Navigating Folders (Was: Re: %Cursor)
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Wednesday, November 24, 1999, Ian Gore wrote to Oleg Zalyalov about Navigating Folders (Was: Re: %Cursor): Yes, it is. But the next folder with unread mail is not necessarily so close. Fast search is not of much help there since it works on the first letter only. IG I'm not sure how Fast Search helps, but it looks for any occurrence of IG the search string, not just the first letter. It doesn't work here so for folders while it does for message list. -- Best regards, Oleg Zalyalov. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.36 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
reply initials
Hi TBUDL, For one of my sub-folders all the mail received comes with the sender name in the form Smith John[EMAIL PROTECTED] So in my reply template I use "Hi %OFROMLNAME" the question is how do I get the initials (in)correctly shown for the quoted reply text? There no folder specific options for initials, they seem to be only for the whole account. -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.38 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: nostalgic for old Xmas logo?
On Wednesday, November 24, 1999 Paula Ford wrote: Is the splash screen returning? :( What do you mean "returning"? It has always been in TB... -- Christopher J. Trybowski === --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- uin: 4350719 --- http://www.trybik.i.krakow.pl --- pgp-keys: 0xB92EEE69 0x9382700B ( get-pgp-key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=send_key ) Using The Bat! 1.38 Beta/3 [reg] under Windows 98 4.10 build 1998. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: (No Subject)
Hi there! On 24 Nov 99, at 5:55, Steve Lamb wrote about "Re: (No Subject)": TBUDL says in unison, hundreds of voices ringing out, "Hi!" Paula shifts nervously behind the podium, glancing to the moderator to her left, smiling nervously before continuing. "Uhm, uh, my name is Paula Ford, and I'm an emailaholic." TBUDL gives her a round of applause at her admission. ROTFLMAO!!! Will archive your message, Steve:-) SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) -- Thought for the day: The first duty of love is to listen. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Original Message Date and time query
Hi there! On 24 Nov 99, at 11:50, Thomas Fernandez wrote about "Re: Original Message Date and time ": I would prefer it to always be in GMT (as pine does it), but I have seen from my colleagues that the lcoal time is more appreciated by the average user. And I'll explain you why... Suppose I worked hard all day teaching students, then returned back home and composed a couple of message to a mailing list (about 5-00PM my local time). Then suppose some American like Steve Lamb (just for example) decided to reply to these. His message will then start with: ., 1-00 PM, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote And suppose the head of our staff is the member of the same mailing list Now what would he think about this Alexander V. Kiselev, who was supposed to teach students of the 4th course from 11- 00AM till 2-45 PM?:-))) I think we discussed this on this list about last month or so. The result was the suggestion to add "GMT+" hours to the Reply Template (see above). Yup, this is a workaround of course, but this doesn't solve the problem itself I'd say. Here is a suggestion: Add a %GMT macro, which would should the difference between your local time zone and GMT. Better add a %LTIME macro that would default to the local time (this is how the %OTIME works currently), and modify the %OTIME macro to show the time as it was stated in the message headers, *without* the timezone correction. SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) -- Thought for the day: If Windows sucked it would be good for something. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Attachment folder
Hello TBUDL, Why can't I see the attachment folder in the bat, but I see it listed in windows explorer? -- Best regards, Pasquale mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Idiot Mode
Hi,
On Wednesday, November 24, 1999, 10:15:49 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote:
Ctrl+Shift+Alt+/ (toggle idiot mode on/off) will take "Folder" off
the menu in the main screen, and some of the choices out of
Account/...
BTW, that's yet another shortcut that doesn't work on some keyboards
(e.g. on a German keyboard the "/" is on the shifted "7", also on
that key is the left curly bracket "{" which may be reached by
pressing Ctrl-Alt-7).
Regards,
Markus
Using The Bat! 1.38 Beta/3 under Windows NT 4.0 Build
1381 Service Pack 5
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Re: Idiot Mode
Ctrl+Shift+Alt+/ (toggle idiot mode on/off) will take "Folder" off the menu in the main screen, and some of the choices out of Account/... Perhaps to further signify the software is running in "idiot mode" the bat icon should be replaced with a Microsoft one and the program would immediately bloat to 5 times it's original size! -- - Nick Nick Danger's Complimentary Curse (©¿©): May 529,000 persistent bikers baste pigs in your lungs. Using The Bat! 1.38 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Idiot Mode
Ctrl+Shift+Alt+/ (toggle idiot mode on/off) will take "Folder" off the menu in the main screen, and some of the choices out of Account/... Perhaps to further signify the software is running in "idiot mode" the bat icon should be replaced with a Microsoft one and the program would immediately bloat to 5 times it's original size! -- - Nick Nick Danger's Complimentary Curse (©¿©): May 529,000 persistent bikers baste pigs in your lungs. Using The Bat! 1.38 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: nostalgic for old Xmas logo?
Hello Paula, Your message from Wednesday, November 24, 1999, 09:47: "nostalgic for old Xmas logo?" Paula Is the splash screen returning? :( Excuse me, Paula, what do you mean by "splash screen". I couldn't find that in the dictionary. Take care, Bernhardmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: nostalgic for old Xmas logo?
On Wednesday, November 24, 1999, joshua allen r. day wrote: PF Is the splash screen returning? :( It never left... I upgraded to 1.36 a couple days and I have no splash screen. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.36 (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Indicating source folders in search window
Hi, When implementing a search (F7), TB! indicates currently searching folders in the status line. But after the search is finished it is impossible to see where a found message is located. Very inconvenient if a message is searched in several folders. Is it a bug or I can determine where the message is located? Best regards, Vlad Using TB! v.1.36 under W98 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: nostalgic for old Xmas logo?
On Wednesday, November 24, 1999, 18:37, Paula Ford wrote: On Wednesday, November 24, 1999, joshua allen r. day wrote: PF Is the splash screen returning? :( It never left... I upgraded to 1.36 a couple days and I have no splash screen. Hello Paula, the same here - it never left. Is there perhaps a certain parameter you can start The Bat! with? -- Best regards, Jürgen -- Using The Bat! 1.38 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 PGP-key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGPkeybody=Send%20PGPkey%20of%20Frisch Key ID: 0x371AFB16 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Indicating source folders in search window
Hi Vlad, V When implementing a search (F7), TB! indicates currently V searching folders in the status line. But after the search V is finished it is impossible to see where a found message is V located. Rearrange the colums so that you can see the 'folder' column. Regards, Wolfgang Co-moderator TBUDL / TBBETA discussion lists Using The Bat! 1.38 Beta/3 under Windows 95 4.0 Build B in Darmstadt, Germany, on a 166Mhz Cyrix, 128MB SDRAM, half SCSI system ;-) http://people.frankfurt.netsurf.de/wky/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Idiot Mode
Hi all, ... TF Ctrl+Shift+Alt+/ (toggle idiot mode on/off) will take "Folder" off the TF menu in the main screen, and some of the choices out of Account/... did somebody already find out what to use on a german keyboard for this nice function? Regards, Wolfgang Co-moderator TBUDL / TBBETA discussion lists Using The Bat! 1.38 Beta/3 under Windows 95 4.0 Build B in Darmstadt, Germany, on a 166Mhz Cyrix, 128MB SDRAM, half SCSI system ;-) http://people.frankfurt.netsurf.de/wky/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[3]: nostalgic for old Xmas logo?
On 24 November 1999 at 16:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] told the list: PF Is the splash screen returning? :( It never left... I upgraded to 1.36 a couple days and I have no splash screen. JFthe same here - it never left. Is there perhaps a certain parameter JFyou can start The Bat! with? Yes there is - /NOLOGO Cheers, Marck -- Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Co-moderator TBUDL / TBBETA discussion lists www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY - Using The Bat! 1.38 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Idiot Mode
In Reference to "Idiot Mode" From Nick Danger: Ctrl+Shift+Alt+/ (toggle idiot mode on/off) will take "Folder" off the menu in the main screen, and some of the choices out of Account/... ND Perhaps to further signify the software is running in "idiot mode" the ND bat icon should be replaced with a Microsoft one and the program would ND immediately bloat to 5 times it's original size! Speaking (ok, writing) of idiot mode. Can anyone explain why that last message might have been sent twice? I check the log and sure enough two instances of it were sent, yet I know I only typed it and hit send once. Any clues? I've seen other messages on this board duped before and wondered about it. -- - Nick Using The Bat! 1.38 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: nostalgic for old Xmas logo?
On Wednesday, November 24, 1999, Bernhard Kaiser wrote: Excuse me, Paula, what do you mean by "splash screen". I couldn't find that in the dictionary. Sorry, Bernhard. It's the graphic that pops up when you first start a program that sits there while the program is loading. Sometimes called a 'logo' as it usually contains the company's logo. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.36 (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: nostalgic for old Xmas logo?
On Wednesday, November 24, 1999, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: Yes there is - /NOLOGO Did I forget that I had added the parameter??? sigh The new one is just as ugly as the old one, IMO, of course. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.36 (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: nostalgic for old Xmas logo?
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 PF The new one is just as ugly as the old one, IMO, of course. Hey, now... I like the old ugly logo! (and the new cuteugly logo) ... *hmph* =) joshua http://jarday.com - 1.38 Beta/3 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: nostalgic for old Xmas logo?
Hello Paula, Your message from Wednesday, November 24, 1999, 22:50: "nostalgic for old Xmas logo?" Paula Sorry, Bernhard. It's the graphic that pops up when you first start a Paula program that sits there while the program is loading. Sometimes called a Paula 'logo' as it usually contains the company's logo. Thanks, Paula. When I - under Windows - make TB start in the autostart, how can I use the /NOLOGO parameter ? -- Bernhardmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[3]: nostalgic for old Xmas logo?
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Bernhard, BK Thanks, Paula. When I - under Windows - make TB start in the BK autostart, how can I use the /NOLOGO parameter ? you mean the start-up folder in the start-menu? if you're using ie 5.0: right-click on the short-cut, select properties, and add ' /nologo' to the program-path if you can't right-click: go to c:\windows\start menu\ (or c:\windows\profiles\your name\start menu\) using explorer, then right-click etc... (this works for 95/98, not sure about nt) (don't forget the space between the .exe and the /nologo) HTH -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It's all fun and games,'till someone loses an eye! Then it's a *SPORT* .oooO ( ) Oooo. --\ (( ) \_)) / (_/ Visit the official site of Enigma at http://www.enigma3.com (it's really worth it!) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Shortcuts (was: Re: Threading)
Steve Lamb wrote: Tuesday, November 23, 1999, 7:25:10 PM, Thomas wrote: I'd like to try "idiot mode". However, before I do that, kindly let me know how to disable "idiot mode" again. ;-) Come now, figuring out how to exit it is the test to prove you're worthy of disabling it in the first place. ;) ROTFLMAO! -- * Ali Martin mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Variables won't; constants aren't. *** Using The Bat! v1.38 Beta/3 [-] Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 6) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Original Message Date and time query
Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: And I'll explain you why... snip Now what would he think about this Alexander V. Kiselev, who was supposed to teach students of the 4th course from 11- 00AM till 2-45 PM?:-))) chuckle That's a nice example. I do feel ridiculous sending messages at my local time without sticking in the GMT. Asking the recipient to make the necessary calculations is a tad unreasonable as well. They should just see the time as their local time. Here is a suggestion: Add a %GMT macro, which would should the difference between your local time zone and GMT. Better add a %LTIME macro that would default to the local time (this is how the %OTIME works currently), and modify the %OTIME macro to show the time as it was stated in the message headers, *without* the timezone correction. Agreed completely. -- * Ali Martin mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** I want my data back, machine, and I want it now! *** Using The Bat! v1.38 Beta/3 [-] Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 6) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Surprise...
Steve Lamb wrote: That's a good one Steve. If I was one who liked using autocomplete, I would've picked it up already. :) *bow* chuckle Those hilarious responses to Thomas, Paula and now this??? You seemed to have arisen from the right side of your bed this morning fella. :) Actually, TB!'s autocompletion needs some work. For example, when I send certain mail out to different lists. One such is "websystems@corp; websupport@corp". Two separate addresses.Yet TB! will complete the whole string if I start with websystems. *BAD* Completing two or more addresses from the contents of one causes problems. I dislike autocompletion. My experience with it has been uniformly poor. It's a nightmare of assumptions!! I'm amazed that you actually use it. :) IE is horrible with it as well. It just gets in my way. Anyway, I use Opera mostly now so -- * Ali Martin mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** If you associate with the wise, you will become wise. *** Using The Bat! v1.38 Beta/3 [-] Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 6) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Surprise...
Hi there! On 24 Nov 99, at 18:19, Ali Martin wrote about "Re: Surprise...": Actually, TB!'s autocompletion needs some work. For example, when I send certain mail out to different lists. One such is "websystems@corp; websupport@corp". Two separate addresses.Yet TB! will complete the whole string if I start with websystems. *BAD* Completing two or more addresses from the contents of one causes problems. I dislike autocompletion. My experience with it has been uniformly poor. It's a nightmare of assumptions!! Nope, if correctly coded... I mean that when I write down michael@ in Netscape, it automatically expands it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which is the address that was *never* used since such user doesn't exist, Mozilla just adds that mph stuff since the addressbook hasn't michael@anything AND my own address is configured as [EMAIL PROTECTED] there) instead of correct [EMAIL PROTECTED], which *exists* in the RUA list... That's what I call the nightmare of assumptions. If OTOH the program just picks *all* the addresses matching the string I've just typed in from *everywhere* one by one and lets me to choose between them, it's all pretty logical and useful. SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) -- Thought for the day: Book (n): a utensil used to pass time while waiting for the TV repairman. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: (COT) Moo-ah, Met-ah, Med-ah and all (un)related things...
Well, well. AFAIK this summer there was a heated discussion in Oxford whether to teach their math students what "uniformly continuous function" is or NOT:-))) ROTFLMAO, as you say:-) This is exactly what *our* students are taught in the *very* first semester:-)) You're joking, right? As a Mathematics/Comuter Science major, I find that utterly _appalling_. What do you find appaling? The Oxford-related information, or how we teach here? If the latter, then yes, we deliver them (students) the Kantor (not sure about spelling:-)) theorem and the related questions during their first 5 months of study And there's nothing appaling about it, since it's one of the basics of the analysis... We basically follow the Smirnov's course, that is. Therefore the "absolutely continuous functions" are postponed to the 3rd year... together with related Lebesque theorems etc. If, OTOH, you find the Oxford info appaling, then I'm on your side:-) *grin* Sorry, I should be more specifically appalled in the future. ;-) (Mental Note...) Anyhow, yes, it's the Oxford-related information that appalled me. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Surprise...
Wednesday, November 24, 1999, 3:19:43 PM, Ali wrote: chuckle Those hilarious responses to Thomas, Paula and now this??? Hey, just because I'm a self-proclaimed curmudgeon doesn't mean I don't have a sense of humor. :P I dislike autocompletion. My experience with it has been uniformly poor. It's a nightmare of assumptions!! I'm amazed that you actually use it. :) IE is horrible with it as well. It just gets in my way. Anyway, I use Opera mostly now so Well, not entirely. I am lazy, all power users of computers are. What makes the CLI bearable is the tab-completion. Autocompletion is basically the same thing, it just does it real time. Annoying, yeah, but not as much as it is useful when the data it is drawing from is good. Having names matched with the wrong address and completing strings which represent several addresses, however, represents bad data. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Surprise...
Hi there! On 24 Nov 99, at 16:48, Steve Lamb wrote about "Re: Surprise...": chuckle Those hilarious responses to Thomas, Paula and now this??? Hey, just because I'm a self-proclaimed curmudgeon doesn't mean I don't have a sense of humor. :P BTW, what does this "curmudgeon" mean after all?:-)) I'm afraid it's not in my PC-based dictionary, and being as lazy as you I don't want to search for it on the bookshelves:-)) As for your humour, *i* liked it very much:-) Well, not entirely. I am lazy, all power users of computers are. What makes the CLI bearable is the tab-completion. Autocompletion is basically the same thing, it just does it real time. Annoying, yeah, but not as much as it is useful when the data it is drawing from is good. Having names matched with the wrong address and completing strings which represent several addresses, however, represents bad data. That's my point precisely, too:-) SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) -- Thought for the day: The probability of a young man meeting a desirable and receptive young female increases by pyramidal progression when he is already in the company of (1) a date, (2) his wife, (3) a better looking and richer male friend. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Surprise...
Wednesday, November 24, 1999, 5:11:44 PM, Alexander wrote:
BTW, what does this "curmudgeon" mean after all?:-)) I'm
afraid it's not in my PC-based dictionary, and being as lazy as
you I don't want to search for it on the bookshelves:-))
From http://www.m-w.com.
Main Entry: cur·mud·geon
Pronunciation: (")kr-'m-jn
Function: noun
Etymology: origin unknown
Date: 1577
1 archaic : MISER
2 : a crusty, ill-tempered, and usually old man
- cur·mud·geon·li·ness /-lE-ns/ noun
- cur·mud·geon·ly /-lE/ adjective
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Re: The TBUDL
Hello Paula, Wednesday, November 24, 1999, 3:34:05 AM, you wrote: PF On Tuesday, November 23, 1999, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: On 23 November 1999 at 21:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] told the list: Don't use the automatic reply address: Fred Huddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why not? Use: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why? PF I think the suggestion was made to someone who had posted a new message PF (started a new thread) by replying to another message, which makes the PF threading goofy sometimes. Actually it was for creating filtering rules. I find filtering works if I get rid of the sender's name and the '' but not if I don't. Regards, Halmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...I pretend to work and they pretend to pay me! -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Threading
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 Hello Ali, Tuesday, Tuesday, November 23, 1999, you wrote: AliMarck D. Pearlstone wrote: AM OK, I could rest it in my little webspace and provide a link in the AM future. That would be more suitable a solution in view of the list rule of "no attachments" ;-9. Ali What double standard eh? I remember making a stink out of that with Ali tracer. The shortcut list when zipped is 3kb so I said what the heck? Ali :)) But how many requests for hidden keys are hereby avoided and saving bandwidth... Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.38 Beta/3 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY Phone 271194 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Shortcuts (was: Re: Threading)
Hi Steve, on Wednesday, November 24, 1999, 11:32:28 AM GMT+0800, Steve Lamb wrote: I'd like to try "idiot mode". However, before I do that, kindly let me know how to disable "idiot mode" again. ;-) SL Come now, figuring out how to exit it is the test to prove you're worthy SL of disabling it in the first place. ;) bg -- Best regards, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.38 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Original Message Date and time query
Hi Alexander, on Wednesday, November 24, 1999, 10:56:56 PM GMT+0800, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: I would prefer it to always be in GMT (as pine does it), but I have seen from my colleagues that the lcoal time is more appreciated by the average user. AVK And I'll explain you why... AVK Suppose I worked hard all day teaching students, then returned AVK back home and composed a couple of message to a mailing list AVK (about 5-00PM my local time). Then suppose some American AVK like Steve Lamb (just for example) decided to reply to these. His AVK message will then start with: AVK ., 1-00 PM, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote AVK And suppose the head of our staff is the member of the same AVK mailing list In that case I would think your head of staff would know the meaning of GMT, wouldn't s/he? ;-) I think we discussed this on this list about last month or so. The result was the suggestion to add "GMT+" hours to the Reply Template (see above). AVK Yup, this is a workaround of course, but this doesn't solve the AVK problem itself I'd say. But it clarifies what time is meant. You sent your message at 10:56pm my time - but do you know that it is "my time", or does it look like it could be "your time"? And do you know where "my time" is? A "time zone indicator" is needed in international email, I think. And for me, "09:00 GMT+0800" and "01:00 GMT" have the same meaning. No time zone indicator causes confusion. With a time zone indicator, it really doesn't matter whether you use Local Time or GMT. The average user prefers Local Time. Here is a suggestion: Add a %GMT macro, which would should the difference between your local time zone and GMT. AVK Better add a %LTIME macro that would default to the local time AVK (this is how the %OTIME works currently), and modify the AVK %OTIME macro to show the time as it was stated in the AVK message headers, *without* the timezone correction. Agree; better than my suggestion. Still it should show the time zone, in order to avoid confusion. Imagine this lsit: some people prefer %LTIME, otehr prefer %OTIME, how would you know who uses which? -- Best regards, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.38 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Idiot Mode
Hi Markus,
on Wednesday, November 24, 1999, 11:46:18 PM GMT+0800, Markus Gloede wrote:
Ctrl+Shift+Alt+/ (toggle idiot mode on/off) will take "Folder" off
the menu in the main screen, and some of the choices out of
Account/...
MG BTW, that's yet another shortcut that doesn't work on some keyboards
MG (e.g. on a German keyboard the "/" is on the shifted "7", also on
MG that key is the left curly bracket "{" which may be reached by
MG pressing Ctrl-Alt-7).
So Germans have no way of achieving idiot mode?
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Re[3]: Idiot Mode
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Thomas, TF So Germans have no way of achieving idiot mode? look at it this way: everyone using a non-american keyboard is considerd to be 'not an idiot' :-) (probably cause we figured out to type on a non-american keyboard :-) ) or the other way... everyone with an american keyboard... (no offense meant) :-) -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The cigarette does the smoking, YOU'RE just the sucker!! .oooO ( ) Oooo. --\ (( ) \_)) / (_/ Visit the official site of Enigma at http://www.enigma3.com (it's really worth it!) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[4]: Idiot Mode
Hi Roel, on Thursday, November 25, 1999, 11:44:19 AM GMT+0800, Roel wrote: TF So Germans have no way of achieving idiot mode? R look at it this way: everyone using a non-american keyboard is R considerd to be 'not an idiot' :-) (probably cause we figured out to R type on a non-american keyboard :-) ) R or the other way... everyone with an american keyboard... R (no offense meant) :-) I am using a Chinese keyboard . :-) The keys are printed in four colours: green, red and blue for Chinese characters and radicals (part-characters, of which most characters are composed). Black is for latin letters. They are printed with the Amercian lay-out, but that doesn't make it an American keyboard. -- Ciao, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.38 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: The TBUDL
Hi Hal, on Thursday, November 25, 1999, 9:42:23 AM GMT+0800, Hal wrote: Don't use the automatic reply address: Fred Huddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why not? Use: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why? PF I think the suggestion was made to someone who had posted a new message PF (started a new thread) by replying to another message, which makes the PF threading goofy sometimes. H Actually it was for creating filtering rules. I find filtering works if I get rid of H the sender's name and the '' but not if I don't. I filter on either. My filter for TBUDL looks for the string TBUDL to be present in Sender. I can be in Name, Email, whatever. You can also filter on dutaint in sender or kludges, if you prefer. - Over here, it all works. :-) -- Best regards, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.38 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
catching external links
Hello Everybody, when i want to write a new mail by clicking on a link in the browser, i get the new mail-template for the folder that i'm in... now, i know that this is logical in a way, but when i click on a link in an external program, chances are higher that i just want the default-template... so here's my suggestion: seperate the mailto-link in an external program from the one in the toolbar... let the one in the toolbar be 'folder-sensitive', the other-one just account-sensitive... Why account sensitive? actually, no reason... you could also vote for an account-independant-template, but i think that's overdoing things... Any comments? -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roel [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Hello World!" 17 errors, 31 warnings Visit the official site of Enigma at http://www.enigma3.com (it's really worth it!) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Can't send mail - but receiving OK
On Tuesday, November 23, 1999, 9:59:47 PM, Mogens wrote: Account name and password must be good too since I can receive OK. Are they needed by the SMTP server? If you can enter them, then "Perform SMTP Authenication (sic)" is checked and, as Mark has already pointed out, it shouldn't be. -- Cheers Ian G. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
