Re: File Attachments (A different question)
On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 00:22:55 +0100, Ralf Buschmann wrote: SL If you tell it not to. It, however, is an option and on my version it SL does store it with the message. Where is that option? Accounts|Properties|Options -- CU, Allie ... Using The Bat! v1.39 *:* Windows NT5.0 --- ** I do a lot of thinking in the john. Says a lot for my thoughts. ** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! and Big files
On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:55:59 -0800, Januk Aggarwal wrote: Or if you want a little more space than that, http://www.freediskspace.com/Index.asp I've never really subscribed to one of these freespace servers. How do they make these things worthwhile for themselves? Banner ads at the website and in your inbox? :) -- CU, Allie ... Using The Bat! v1.39 *:* Windows NT5.0 --- ** "Freedom defined is freedom denied." -The Illuminatus ** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: I Just started getting this problem with the Bat.
Hello Thomas, February 16, 2000, 9:39:24 PM, you wrote: TF Hi Pasquale, TF On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:34:50 -0500GMT (17/02/2000, 02:34 +0800GMT), TF Pasquale J. Festa Sr. wrote: PJFS I just started getting this problem, if I start my DUN connection PJFS before any programs (my normal method) The Bat will than start another PJFS start up connection. This happens when I have Opera and bat running, TF Try this: The only place to set up the DUN details is under TF Options/Network Admin. TF Of course, "Use Existing Dial-Up connection" should be checked. TF Each Account should have "Use Account Specific..." *unchecked* (it's TF under Account/Properties/Network). I think your problem is that at TF least one of your accounts has something set up here. yupper that was it! I must have missed understood it's use. Thanks. -- Best regards, Pasquale mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filtering Spam?
A Chara Thomas, Thursday, February 17, 2000, 2:46:30 AM, you wrote: TF No use. In almost all cases, your "bounce message" will bounce back to TF yourself again, as the spammer's mailbox is either full or cancelled. TF BTW I hardly get any spam any more, since I followed Leif Gregory's TF "How to avoid spam". Unless I get any which are killed by my kill TF filter, the total is some 2 or 3 per week (which I delete manually). I TF consider this acceptable, as it is about par with snail mail spam. I always find it easier to manage the SPAM from Message Despatcher and my Inbox. Anything that gets past the Message Despatcher gets sifted from my Inbox straight away. It is very easy to see the SPAM when you have the majority of your email filtered to specific mailboxes. Just a matter of 'mailbox discipline' in ridding yourself of it when it arrives I suppose, even though it is annoying. An extra tip: Set up a mailbox in TB! called something like 'Dullard'. Everywhere you visit that you don't want email from use this email address when prompted dullard@ Filter it out before it hits your hard disk! It doesn't exactly reduce the SPAM as such but it enables you to manage it quickly. By the way, I have also reduced my SPAM by 50% nowadays. Also, ISPs should be doing a bit more to allow filtering at their end. Would send out a message to SPAM churners as well. Slan, Simon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Lhomme est bien insensé. Il ne saurait forger un ciron, et forge des Dieux à douzaines! (Man is quite insane. He cannot create a maggot, and he creates Gods by the dozen) MONTAIGNE 1533-1592 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: LDAP
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Tuesday, February 15, 2000, Oliver Sturm wrote to Tom Plunket about LDAP: Perhaps nobody knew the answer? I've never used LDAP in my life... OS What was the question? I have used LDAP, but didn't read the question, OS I think ;) I don't know about the question, but I have one long standing problem with LDAP. It doesn't search if organization in search base contains space. So I have to use other applications to search the most useful LDAP directory. -- Best regards, Oleg Zalyalov. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.39 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Possible bug / problem
Hi JWorley, On 17 February 2000 at 21:44:29 GMT -0600 (which was 03:44 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points: J I work with a bunch of Outlook / MS Office users and have noticed J something strange. Whenever they forward a message to me that has J an attached document I do not get the attached file. The Bat shows J that the message has an attachment. But it will be displayed as J something like 7.MSG. When I open it all I see is a blank message. J If I receive the same forwarded message with another client the J attachment will invariably be there and show as Whatever.DOC or J Whatsit.XLS. Is this a bug or am I missing something? I can provide J screen captures to show the problem if necessary. This is not a TB problem but a problem at the Outlook end. Their address book *must* show you as someone unable to read MS Enriched messages otherwise attachments will come through legible only by another Outlook / Exchange / MSIM user. The usual format for these PITA messages is MS-TNEF. There is a decoder available for this format (mentioned recently in a thread specifically about MS-TNEF - check the TBUDL/TBBETA archive) although I was unable to access the link given. -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Co-moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
The Bat! Windows 2000 professional
Is there any problem of compatibility or is The Bat! totally Win2K compliant ? thanx for your answers :) -- Benoit Darcy [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! Windows 2000 professional
On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:34:24 +0100, Benoit Darcy wrote: Is there any problem of compatibility or is The Bat! totally Win2K compliant ? thanx for your answers :) Works perfectly here. I'm using my original installation and simply imported the old registry settings to Win2k. -- CU, Allie ... Using The Bat! v1.39 *:* Windows NT5.0 --- ** How many of you believe in telekinesis? Raise MY hand! ** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[6]: The Bat! and Big files
Hi Wolfgang Kynast, On Wednesday, February 16, 2000 at 8:34:53 PM you wrote: ... OS Anyway, my original problem is still there... If I have a file of, OS say, 6mb of size, which will encode to around 8mb when attached to OS email, why does transfering those 8mb via TB take much longer than OS transfering another file of 8mb original size via ftp? Because your SMTP server does not provide the same bandwidth as the ftp server does. Hm. Never heard of that, I must say. I'm using a 64kbit ISDN connection, shouldn't any server at the provider be able to handle that little data? Oliver Sturm -- $ cat "can of food" cat: cannot open can of food -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! Windows 2000 professional
Hi Benoit Darcy, On Thursday, February 17, 2000 at 1:34:24 PM you wrote: Is there any problem of compatibility or is The Bat! totally Win2K compliant ? thanx for your answers :) I didn't have any specific problems in about two months. Oliver Sturm -- This Virus requires Microsoft Windows. -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: The Bat! and Big files
Hi Januk Aggarwal, On Wednesday, February 16, 2000 at 11:55:59 PM you wrote: http://www.highpowergraphics.com/freedrive.html Or if you want a little more space than that, http://www.freediskspace.com/Index.asp Thanks, I'll be having a look at those. Oliver Sturm -- $ cat "can of food" cat: cannot open can of food -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: LDAP
Hi Oleg Zalyalov,
On Thursday, February 17, 2000 at 10:43:30 AM you wrote:
I don't know about the question, but I have one long standing
problem with LDAP. It doesn't search if organization in search base
contains space. So I have to use other applications to search the
most useful LDAP directory.
I have had a look at the log files of my own ldap server and i saw
that TB gives a correct search string for organizations containing
spaces. It works with my installation of OpenLDAP 1.2.0, maybe the
problem is specific to some ldap server software?
Oliver Sturm
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Re: Filtering Spam?
On Wednesday, February 16, 2000, 4:18:10 AM, tracer wrote: In Nicks case, if Nick still has thet email send it to me WITH headers and I can see if my filters catch the thing... Addresses arent the only thing I filter on... Sorry Tracer... long since deleted :o( Nick -- --=N.J. (Nick) Andriash=-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID: 0x2924D361 --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Possible bug / problem
Hi there! On 16 Feb 00, at 21:44, JWorley wrote about "Possible bug / problem": I work with a bunch of Outlook / MS Office users and have noticed something strange. Whenever they forward a message to me that has an attached document I do not get the attached file. The Bat shows that the message has an attachment. But it will be displayed as something like 7.MSG. When I open it all I see is a blank message. In fact when you open it, you see a _message_having_blank_textual_part, but _containing_an_attachment_. Please ensure (in the message viewer!) that you have "show attachments automatically" or "always" ticked. The MIME structure of such messages is: a message, to which another message is MIME-attached, this last message having an empty textual part and one or more attachments. It's insane structure all right, but M$ mailers are made by idiots, always remember this;-) P.S. My apologies Marck, but this specific case has nothing to do with ms- tnefs. It's another (although sad also) problem... P.P.S. This is my last message to TBUDL for (at least:-)) the next 3 weeks, I'm temporarily desactivating my subscription since I'm leaving St.Pb tomorrow. See ya, guys;-) -- SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) http://mph.phys.spbu.ru/~akiselev --- Thought for the day: Speed Kills - Use Windows! --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: The Bat! and Big files, Free Space
A Chara Allie, Thursday, February 17, 2000, 11:41:51 AM, you wrote: AM On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:55:59 -0800, Januk Aggarwal wrote: Or if you want a little more space than that, http://www.freediskspace.com/Index.asp AM I've never really subscribed to one of these freespace AM servers. How do they make these things worthwhile for themselves? AM Banner ads at the website and in your inbox? :) I had not used these 'freespace servers' until last year either. I too wondered what they got out of it and what the catch was also, but in the end put my reservations aside and signed up to one via a FREE ISP providing fictitious details. Fortunately, I found that I have not been inundated with SPAM and the mailbox of the free ISP is always clean. So heh heh! Take advantage. USe what's there to your advantage. On the other hand, many people prefer not to make use of free space preferring to keep all things local. I, and many others like me, use these 'places' as a neutral warehouse facility where everyone you choose is free to upload and download files making them available to all. I really don't fancy sending emails to 12 people with a 6mb file attached to each. One 6MB upload and an email with a link solves all problems. People are very suspicious (and often quite rightly) about anything for free, but forget to weigh up the bad points against the benefits. We can often look a gift horse in the mouth. Slan, Simon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Lhomme est bien insensé. Il ne saurait forger un ciron, et forge des Dieux à douzaines! (Man is quite insane. He cannot create a maggot, and he creates Gods by the dozen) MONTAIGNE 1533-1592 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - bug report
Wednesday, February 16, 2000, 3:58:31 PM, Soth wrote: other things) and don't have the luxury of dealing with many computer-literate people. Frankly, trying to get them to install and understand an ftp client (God forbid I try to explain command-line ftp) is too painful. Everyone has a browser and understands it, basically. Use one of the many "free drive" services on the net where file transfers are done with HTTP put and get. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Kill filter question
Hi Tom, ... TP Umm, I would imagine that all headers would have to be downloaded for TP them to be examined with the filters... Maybe I'm crazy, but as far TP as I understand POP3, you don't really get that much information... Hmmm, maybe I mix this up with the XOVER command of the NNTP protocol. *But*: if all headers are downloaded - why does TB only offer to filter on originator/subject/routing? -- Regards, Wolfgang Co-moderator TBUDL / TBBETA discussion lists Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 95 4.0 Build B in Darmstadt, Germany, on a 166Mhz Cyrix, 128MB SDRAM, half SCSI system ;-) http://people.frankfurt.netsurf.de/wky/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[7]: The Bat! and Big files
Hi Oliver, ... OS Hm. Never heard of that, I must say. I'm using a 64kbit ISDN OS connection, shouldn't any server at the provider be able to handle OS that little data? In my experience: no. To check this, you can use the systen monitor of windows. You may have to install it, as it seems not to be there by default. -- Regards, Wolfgang Co-moderator TBUDL / TBBETA discussion lists Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 95 4.0 Build B in Darmstadt, Germany, on a 166Mhz Cyrix, 128MB SDRAM, half SCSI system ;-) http://people.frankfurt.netsurf.de/wky/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Kill filter question
Thursday, February 17, 2000, 9:44:37 AM, Wolfgang wrote: *But*: if all headers are downloaded - why does TB only offer to filter on originator/subject/routing? For the same reason that TB! offers only to filter on "sender", "receiver", "subject", "kludges", "body" and "anywhere". ;) -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! Windows 2000 professional
Thursday, February 17, 2000, 7:34:24 AM, Benoit Darcy wrote: Is there any problem of compatibility or is The Bat! totally Win2K compliant ? thanx for your answers :) I've had no problems at all with TB under Win2K -- Take Care, Dave mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat Version 1.39 Running Windows NT 5 Build 2195 Created: Thursday, February 17, 2000 3:38:19 PM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: The Bat! Windows 2000 professional
Hello (under Win2k server) DM I've had no problems at all with TB under Win2K yes, it's works fine :) Thanx for all your answers -- Benoit Darcy [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Incoming messages while reading a folder
Hello, I wonder if anyone else has noticed this bug. Let me set things up by describing my setup. I have individual folders for my mailing lists, and mail from those lists are automatically filtered into those folders. When I read mail, I use the preview pane, with the focus on the message list so I can use that Ctrl-] feature. I also keep my messages threaded by references. I also tend to read most of my mail while online, and periodical checking turned on. Note that I have a LAN connection, so I don't use any of the DUN settings for TB or Windows. Now on to the problem. When I am viewing my messages, I use the ALT-Up/down arrows to scroll the message. When new mail comes into the folder, each new message is immediately selected. It is as if I had gone through my folder and selected multiple messages using Ctrl-left mouse click. Anyone know why this is happening? It is rather annoying, especially when I go to reply. I end up getting reply windows for 4 or 5 messages. Currently, the only way to deselect the messages is to use the mouse to click on some other message then select the one I was reading before. -- Thanks, Januk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Possible bug / problem
Hi Marck, On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:03:10 +GMT (17/02/2000, 18:03 +0800GMT), Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: MDP The usual format for these PITA messages is MS-TNEF. There is a MDP decoder available for this format (mentioned recently in a thread MDP specifically about MS-TNEF - check the TBUDL/TBBETA archive) although MDP I was unable to access the link given. I believe that was fentun - I did take a look at the web site. However, I would rather have a possibility to delete this attachment (like HTML, wouldn't that be nice). When I receive HTML messages in pine, I only reply back to the sender that I am unable to read it (which is not entirely true ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
