Re: Filtering on server
Leif Gregory wrote... You can use "kill" filters to delete mail from the server before downloading it. The kill filters are co-located with the new, read, outgoing, and replied filters. It would be nice, though, if someone, somewhere explained what the "Routing" filters actually filter on. -- John De Hoog, Tokyo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Email software: http://dehoog.org/html/j-email.html -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! Windows 2000 professional
Friday, February 18, 2000, 9:44:13 AM, Allie wrote: I have seen enough improvements with it that I wish to keep it. You see, the track record differs. :) I'm just glad that the general public got a clue and didn't camp out at computer stores at midnight to buy it like the last two. Jeez. Camping out for tickets to a band, yes. For an OS, no. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! Windows 2000 professional
On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 09:48:47 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: I'm just glad that the general public got a clue and didn't camp out at computer stores at midnight to buy it like the last two. Jeez. Camping out for tickets to a band, yes. For an OS, no. Even for a band, no. :) -- CU, Allie ... Using The Bat! v1.39 *:* Windows NT5.0 --- ** Hard work must have killed someone! ** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Possible Bug / problem Reply 3
Hi To All You BATty People, Thomas wrote: J I work with a bunch of Outlook / MS Office users and have noticed J something strange. Whenever they forward a message to me that has an J attached document I do not get the attached file. The Bat shows that J the message has an attachment. But it will be displayed as something J like 7.MSG. When I open it all I see is a blank message. If I J receive the same forwarded message with another client the attachment J will invariably be there and show as Whatever.DOC or Whatsit.XLS. Is J this a bug or am I missing something? I can provide screen captures J to show the problem if necessary. I receive a lot of .doc and .xls attachments from Outlook users and have no problems with it. -- Cheers, Thomas. I did some digging and can now narrow the field a little more. This only happens when someone using Outlook receives a message with an attachment and then forwards that message to me. Interestingly enough, the attachment does end up in the Attachment folder undre The Bat. I just cannot see the attachment in the message. This may be an IE/Win98 problem. That still does not explain the screen captures I included last time. If this happens under TB then it should happen under any client. __ Best regards, Jeff Worley Systems Consultant | E-Mailed by The Bat! Version 1.39 | The World's Best E-Mail Client!!! | Check it out at http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/index.html | under Windows 98 4.10 Build A | on an AMD K6-II 380 Mhz _ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! Windows 2000 professional
Hello Listmembers, On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 at 09:48:47 [GMT -0800] Steve Lamb wrote: Camping out for tickets to a band, yes. For an OS, no. Especially when you get it prior to public release ;-) Regards Dieter |Running TheBat! 1.41 Beta/3 [2E7F60DA] on | |Windows NT v4 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 | Registering The Bat! [German]: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=BatReg http://www.register-me.de/the_bat/register.html Support/Info [German]: http://come.to/thebat -- Dieter Hummel FRA/GER 65931EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xD93DC23F -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! Windows 2000 professional
Hello Listmembers, On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 at 12:54:11 [GMT -0500] Allie Martin wrote: Even for a band, no. :) There's ONE I would: Pink Floyd (not really me in person - I would send some one because old bones will suffer in the cold :-) Regards Dieter |Running TheBat! 1.41 Beta/3 [2E7F60DA] on | |Windows NT v4 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 | Registering The Bat! [German]: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=BatReg http://www.register-me.de/the_bat/register.html Support/Info [German]: http://come.to/thebat -- Dieter Hummel FRA/GER 65931EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xD93DC23F -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Possible Bug / problem Reply 3
Hello JWorley, On Friday, February 18, 2000 at 13:10:03 GMT -0600 (which was 11:10 AM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Hi To All You BATty People, I did some digging and can now narrow the field a little more. This only happens when someone using Outlook receives a message with an attachment and then forwards that message to me. Interestingly enough, the attachment does end up in the Attachment folder undre The Bat. I just cannot see the attachment in the message. This may be an IE/Win98 problem. That still does not explain the screen captures I included last time. If this happens under TB then it should happen under any client. Next time you get one of those, open the "attachment" so you see the blank message. Then in that window hit ctrl-shift-k. This sounds like a problem that I had recently. What it turned out to be was that the people forwarding me messages were using GroupWise. For some reason, GroupWise removes the blank line that separates Headers from the message body. So TB thought that the message was a blank message with a whole bunch of headers. That meant to view the message I had to use the Show Kludges/Show RFC-822 Headers option. See if that works. -- Thanks for writing Januk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! Windows 2000 professional
On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 21:36:19 +0100, Dieter Hummel wrote: Camping out for tickets to a band, yes. For an OS, no. Especially when you get it prior to public release ;-) Funny, many like myself, who have the opportunity to be running it prior to it's official launch did nothing of the sort to obtain the copy. This one 'fell in my lap', so to speak, just as NT4 did in my irrational Microsoft hate days. :) Anyway I wonder if the new message windows tendency to open with a cascade type effect even if you open a single new message window at a time could be fixed. One has to be repeatedly adjusting the position. -- CU, Allie ... Using The Bat! v1.39 *:* Windows NT5.0 --- ** To test a man's character, give him power. ** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
CC in Groups
Hello all, when writing mails concerning a certain project, I usually send it to all involved programmers. I've set up a group for this and it works fine. But the manager usually gets the message as a CC. When I write to a group, everyone gets a message and not a copy. Although it doesn't make much difference: Is there a way to set up a group so that some members get the message and some get a copy of it? -- Best regards, CaLViN mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] using 1.38e on NT 4.0 SP 5 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Merge Group with Template
On Friday, February 18, 2000, Ian Bowes wrote: Is it possible to have a group of 30 members of the address book, and send the same message to each person, but customising the 'Dear Joe' salutation? I don't see any way to do what you want, Ian. TB reads what is in the TO: field, then uses that data in the %TO variable. If it's a group name, that's what gets used. If you have more than one individual address in the TO: field, everyone's message will say "Dear [first name in list]". I don't think TB actually does a mail merge on the fly. I think it creates the message once, then sends it to the list of recipients. Allie, you're not understanding what Ian wants to do. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.38e (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: CC in Groups
On Friday, February 18, 2000, letter wrote: snip Although it doesn't make much difference: Is there a way to set up a group so that some members get the message and some get a copy of it? One way would be to make a group of the primary recipients, create specific templates for that group, specify the CC's in the template using %CC="". You could do a similar thing for folder templates, then initiate new messages and replies from that folder. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.38e (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Merge Group with Template
On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:13:11 -0500, Paula Ford wrote: I don't see any way to do what you want, Ian. TB reads what is in the TO: field, then uses that data in the %TO variable. If it's a group name, that's what gets used. If you have more than one individual address in the TO: field, everyone's message will say "Dear [first name in list]". I don't think TB actually does a mail merge on the fly. I think it creates the message once, then sends it to the list of recipients. Allie, you're not understanding what Ian wants to do. Eeee, yes??? . pause Anyway, it would seem to me from what you said above that Ian wishes to write a single message to all recipients in a group with the hope that each recipient will have their unique greeting by name. In that case then I agree that there's no way of doing that. TB! would have to generate separate messages to each recipient on the fly for that to happen. -- CU, Allie ... Using The Bat! v1.39 *:* Windows NT5.0 --- ** Unsolicited advice answers unasked questions ** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filtering Spam?
A Chara tracer, Friday, February 18, 2000, 4:43:23 PM, you wrote: t My expartner set up a veru rude email address on usa.net. t Before they introduced filters to disallow them. t However while the email address exists, sending mail to it is futile t as USA.NET filters them out... t I myself setup a box in USA.NET just to be able to specify an email t address when browsing but the internal spam filters are setup to dump t them directly if any mail arives. I also use email accounts with free ISPs to aid with heave hoeing the jetsam! Seems to be very effective must say. In fact, there is one particular silly and FREE email site that allows up to 20 different aliases@domains: so, in a fit of infantile fun, I signed up for 20 addresses - many moons back - and ended up with such corkers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc. Well, just making use of those cybersitters making use of their ill gotten gains ;-) BTW: I don't get that much in the way of SPAM anymore. Eventually it all goes quiet. The most mail I get nowadays is from this group. Only been signed up to TBUDL a few days and must have acquired nearly 200 messages in the TBUDL mailbox already. Perhaps I should start to think about filtering that to ;-). Slan, or even Nimm Sorge. Sprich zu dir spätere, Simon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Lhomme est bien insensé. Il ne saurait forger un ciron, et forge des Dieux à douzaines! (Man is quite insane. He cannot create a maggot, and he creates Gods by the dozen) MONTAIGNE 1533-1592 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! Windows 2000 professional
Hello Listmembers, On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 at 16:32:10 [GMT -0500] Allie Martin wrote: I wonder if the new message windows tendency to open with a cascade type effect even if you open a single new message window at a time could be fixed. One has to be repeatedly adjusting the position. Guess I will keep NT4 on my main workstation for another long period... [I can't see these wizards any longer... they're drivin' me nuts. It's like searching for easter eggs to find configs expected anywhere else...] We'll see. I'll play around with it. I probably will like it some time. Regards Dieter |Running TheBat! 1.41 Beta/3 [2E7F60DA] on | |Windows NT v4 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 | Registering The Bat! [German]: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=BatReg http://www.register-me.de/the_bat/register.html Support/Info [German]: http://come.to/thebat -- Dieter Hummel FRA/GER 65931EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xD93DC23F -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! Windows 2000 professional
Hello Allie Martin, On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:44:13 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, February 19, 2000, 12:44:13 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Allie Martin wrote: On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 23:16:37 +0700, tracer wrote: Is there any problem of compatibility or is The Bat! totally Win2K compliant ? thanx for your answers :) I had no problem with the Bat under 2000 but then I didnt try all options. On the other hand I had enough problems with windows 2000 to dump it. I have seen enough improvements with it that I wish to keep it. You see, the track record differs. :) I had no display on a clean install and that was really a problem I prefer to look at again in future when it may be fixed... I have it running on other systems and its not bad but if your hardware and software which is needed doesnt work.. My antivirus didnt work, except obviously the MS stuff they want you to use and my Firewalls also didnt work. Add other things I need to run on THIS machine and its clearly very user/machine dependent. Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.41 Beta/3 with Windows 98 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Possible Bug / problem Reply 3
Hello JWorley, On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:10:03 -0600 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, February 19, 2000, 2:10:03 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, JWorley wrote: Hi To All You BATty People, Thomas wrote: J I work with a bunch of Outlook / MS Office users and have noticed J something strange. Whenever they forward a message to me that has an J attached document I do not get the attached file. The Bat shows that J the message has an attachment. But it will be displayed as something J like 7.MSG. When I open it all I see is a blank message. If I J receive the same forwarded message with another client the attachment J will invariably be there and show as Whatever.DOC or Whatsit.XLS. Is J this a bug or am I missing something? I can provide screen captures J to show the problem if necessary. I receive a lot of .doc and .xls attachments from Outlook users and have no problems with it. I dump them and then tell the user that my server zaps exe, doc, xls, bmp's as attachment and can they please zip or jpeg them and resend... They do... I see absolutely no need to have to receive bulky stuff if all they need to do is to compress before sending it. I blame it normally as part of antivirus protecion and anyway thats true. I have had sofar 2 emails with attachments from MS which had a macro virus... -- Cheers, Thomas. I did some digging and can now narrow the field a little more. This only happens when someone using Outlook receives a message with an attachment and then forwards that message to me. Interestingly enough, the attachment does end up in the Attachment folder undre The Bat. I just cannot see the attachment in the message. This may be an IE/Win98 problem. That still does not explain the screen captures I included last time. If this happens under TB then it should happen under any client. __ Best regards, Jeff Worley Systems Consultant | E-Mailed by The Bat! Version 1.39 | The World's Best E-Mail Client!!! | Check it out at http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/index.html | under Windows 98 4.10 Build A | on an AMD K6-II 380 Mhz _ Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.41 Beta/3 with Windows 98 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filtering on server
Hello Nick, On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 at 07:35:49 [GMT -0800], you wrote: NA Leif, is that information about the kill filters in the FAQ? I NA can't remember reading that specific information about the kill NA filters actually deleting right off the server. Has anyone yet NA been able to explain Tom's question about "routing"? No. I had thought it was in the Help file (a real quick check though, and it didn't jump right out at me though.) I guess I should put it in the FAQ because I've seen the question a few times. I've used it quite a bit in the past (before I got my own domain name and SPAM dropped to zero.) It does delete messages off the server, but first TB will download all the message headers, match your kill filter criteria, start downloading messages, and then when it gets to a message that matched your kill filter, it just skips over it and tells the server to delete it. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site http://www.pcwize.com TBUDL FAQ http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: A one-bit brain with a parity error. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Possible Bug / problem Reply 3
Hi tracer, On Sat, 19 Feb 2000 08:33:16 +0700GMT (19/02/2000, 09:33 +0800GMT), tracer wrote: I receive a lot of .doc and .xls attachments from Outlook users and have no problems with it. t I dump them and then tell the user that my server zaps exe, doc, xls, t bmp's as attachment and can they please zip or jpeg them and resend... t They do... I can't do that; even my head office sends me .doc files and .xls files. That's the difference between regular commercial business (mine) and computer-related business (yours). It is even an instruction to send the monthly financial results as Excel files. The company is over 200 years old; for a German company, I should be happy that they recognize email as a means of communication (introduced last year!). t I see absolutely no need to have to receive bulky stuff if all they t need to do is to compress before sending it. Head office even sent me a multi-page powerpoint presentation uncompressed! I was about to delete the messages with the huge attachments before downloading, but fortunately saw the sender before doing that. ;-) t I blame it normally as part of antivirus protecion and anyway thats t true. t I have had sofar 2 emails with attachments from MS which had a macro t virus... My head office has a major firewall does catches more viruses (I believe that's the most commonly-used plural g). Of course, I have an always-updated fully-paid AV realtime protection programme running; an absolute necessity. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filtering on server
Leif, The question you still didn't address is: What is Routing? More specifically, when you set a string in a Routing kill filter, which headers does The Bat! examine to find that string? In my experiments it did not look at the To: header. This really should be in the Help file. Leif Gregory wrote... Has anyone yet NA been able to explain Tom's question about "routing"? No. I had thought it was in the Help file (a real quick check though, and it didn't jump right out at me though.) I guess I should put it in the FAQ because I've seen the question a few times. I've used it quite a bit in the past (before I got my own domain name and SPAM dropped to zero.) It does delete messages off the server, but first TB will download all the message headers, match your kill filter criteria, start downloading messages, and then when it gets to a message that matched your kill filter, it just skips over it and tells the server to delete it. -- John De Hoog [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filtering on server
Hello John, On Sat, 19 Feb 2000 at 11:25:07 [GMT +0900], you wrote: JDH The question you still didn't address is: What is Routing? More JDH specifically, when you set a string in a Routing kill filter, JDH which headers does The Bat! examine to find that string? In my JDH experiments it did not look at the To: header. JDH This really should be in the Help file. Sorry, one of those things that you thought everybody knew. Ok, the routing kill filters are matched based on the RECEIVED (from) lines, which are basically a log of the hops the message took in getting to you. Because the spammer may have changed their FROM address, SUBJECT, REPLY-TO, and TO info for each message they send, you can't filter on that. This is where routing kill filters can come in handy. Let's say you find out a bunch of your spam seems to pass through a particular server which allows relaying (a spammers best friend), you can kill messages based on that server appearing in the hop log (RECEIVED (from)). For example, take a look at the below headers from a message I had sent to TBUDL a little while back. Received: from thebat.dutaint.com (ns2.dutaint.com [202.134.1.243]) by mail.ave.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14327 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 09:07:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from msa.att.ne.jp by thebat.dutaint.com with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.0.0.0n.R) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 05 Feb 2000 21:05:49 +0700 Received: from 20.gate5.mis.att.ne.jp (20.gate5.mis.att.ne.jp [165.76.26.186]) by msa.att.ne.jp (8.8.8+Spin/3.6W-CONS(11/04/99)) id XAA19318; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 23:05:13 +0900 (JST) Any text contained in the RECEIVED header can be used for the routing kill filter, but you'll generally want to kill based on a server: thebat.dutaint.com ns2.dutaint.com mail.ave.com msa.att.ne.jp 20.gate5.mis.att.ne.jp etc... Ok, this should clear that issue up. I'll probably write a little better explanation and stick it in the FAQ later. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site http://www.pcwize.com TBUDL FAQ http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org