Re: another newbie qs
Hi Allie, On Sun, 9 Apr 2000 21:16:35 -0500GMT (10/04/2000, 10:16 +0800GMT), Allie Martin wrote: Thanks for the info, are there any plans to make the bat stop flying once i have read just one message (i.e. next version)? AM There have been similar requests made, the more common one AM being that the bat stops flying when unread messages exceed a defined AM age limit. I don't know, however, if this will be implemented. I don't AM recall a promise from Ritlabs where this is concerned. I would like to know what is the purpose. Why would you want TB (or any other email client) to stop indicating that there are unread message when there are, and you have just only read one of them? -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.41 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Reorder accounts
Dear Simon, S BTW: It is a weird way of dragging folders. Having to drop the S folder you want moved onto the folder where you want to move it to S whilst holding the key down. Well, dragging a folder when I wanted to simply select it seems more weird to me :-) I hate this "feature" of Windows interface... -- Sincerely, Stefan ...Mouse found, place in maze (Y/N) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: Anti virus software and The Bat!
Hello, Monday, April 10, 2000, You wrote: Does anyone know if Norton Antivirus works with The Bat! ? I tested NAV2000 some months ago and it worked me. -- Bye Marek Mikus Using the best The Bat! 1.42 Beta/15 reg under the worst Windows 95 4.0 Build B Intel Celeron 266 MHz, 32 MB -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: another newbie qs
On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 07:07:11 -0500, alex wrote: I am sure Allie and the rest have their reasons but my reason for wanting such a feature is because i am used to it being that way with Email progs such as OE and Eudora. It's just habit i guess. Maybe they can have an option for that. I have a different POV, Alex. I see the icon animation as an indicator of new mail, very much like what the ticker is. Note that each folder has the option to show unread messages in the mail ticker. It's this type of thing that interests me more. I have another account, the messages for which are never really important. I would sure like to make this accounts new messages *not* animate the bat icon. I would love if my spam folders new messages didn't animate the bat icon as well. :) IOW's, I would prefer if the option to animate the TB! icon was made account specific instead of global. -- © Allie »» Using TB! v1.42 Beta/12 º«»º Win2k Pro «« --- ** Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it. ** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: another newbie qs
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Monday, April 10, 2000, Allie Martin wrote to alex on TB!UDL about another newbie qs: AM There have been similar requests made, the more common one AM being that the bat stops flying when unread messages exceed a defined AM age limit. I don't know, however, if this will be implemented. I don't AM recall a promise from Ritlabs where this is concerned. It is so with MailTicker. -- Best regards, Oleg Zalyalov. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.41 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Anti virus software and The Bat!
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Monday, April 10, 2000, Christian Dysthe wrote to tbudl about Anti virus software and The Bat!: CD there are some virus scanners our there now checking all your mail CD for viruses. The one I use (AVG Anti Virus) can check Eudora and CD Outlook mail. CD I would like to see The Bat! have these anti virus software vendors CD implement The Bat! support as well. Since TB! never launch attachments by it's own and don't use any active technologies, any general purpose antiviral program (monitor) will be enough, especially if you choose to store attachments separately from the message bodies. -- Best regards, Oleg Zalyalov. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.41 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: another newbie qs
Hallo Oleg, On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:06:51 +0500 GMT (10.04.2000, 21:06 +0800 GMT), Oleg Zalyalov wrote: AM There have been similar requests made, the more common one AM being that the bat stops flying when unread messages exceed a defined AM age limit. I don't know, however, if this will be implemented. I don't AM recall a promise from Ritlabs where this is concerned. OZ It is so with MailTicker. Is it? How old do unread messages have to be to not be shown in the Mticker? And, does the creation date or the received date count? -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.41 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Anti virus software and The Bat!
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Monday, April 10, 2000, Christian Dysthe wrote to Thomas Fernandez about Anti virus software and The Bat!: CD What I am looking for though is having the scanner actually scan the CD mail on it's way in (or out for that matter) and intervene if they are CD infected (some scanners also tag the mails as well with some text CD telling they are clean). Why do you want to slow down your connection? All files you send/receive with TB! are perfectly safe until you start them by hands. Is the percent of infected files you receive, so high for you? -- Best regards, Oleg Zalyalov. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.41 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: another newbie qs
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Monday, April 10, 2000, Thomas Fernandez wrote to Oleg Zalyalov on TBUDL about another newbie qs: TF Is it? How old do unread messages have to be to not be shown in the TF Mticker? And, does the creation date or the received date count? Right click on Ticker/Messages.../Age limits.. and set up aging limits for messages to be shown at ticker. I don't use it myself, so I don't know any more about it. -- Best regards, Oleg Zalyalov. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.41 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Anti virus software and The Bat!
Hallo Christian, On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 07:33:00 -0500 GMT (10.04.2000, 20:33 +0800 GMT), Christian Dysthe wrote: TF I use Trend PC-Cillin. It has caught viruses (or viri?) sent to me by TF mail, ie to The Bat!. Maybe you want to change your AV scanner? CD Well, I guess all virus scanners (who are set to scan all files) will CD scan The Bat! message files since they after all areyes! files! :) Correct. A virus some code, and virus scanners detect this particular code (or about 34,000 different ones nowadays). They can do it by scanning the HD or when the codes comes in via modem or LAN. CD What I am looking for though is having the scanner actually scan the CD mail on it's way in (or out for that matter) and intervene if they are CD infected (some scanners also tag the mails as well with some text CD telling they are clean). That's what PC-Cillin does for me. I have "Realtime Scan" enabled. This will check everything that comes in via modem or LAN (or copied from other drives, I think). I have had emails coming in with infected attachments (anything but text/plain is an attachment IMHO), and it caught it. Sure, this Realtime Scan option slows downloading down, but I usually web-surf at the same time, and you never know what people put on their sites. I only disable it if I download a large file from a known site, and will not do anything else while downloading. Had a virus before. Been there. Don't need it again. ;-) www.antivirus.com/pc-cillin/ Comes with a 30-day trial as well. -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.41 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: Anti virus software and The Bat!
Hello Oleg, Monday, April 10, 2000, 8:27:22 AM, you wrote: OZ Hello, the Bat! list recipients, OZ Monday, April 10, 2000, Christian Dysthe wrote to Thomas Fernandez about OZ Anti virus software and The Bat!: OZ Why do you want to slow down your connection? All files you OZ send/receive with TB! are perfectly safe until you start them by OZ hands. Is the percent of infected files you receive, so high for you? They are pretty high these days. I receive a lot of word of excel files every day. Since I tele-commute most of my work correspondence is word and excel files. One thing is when I get this myself, another thing is that I pass it on to others as well. Often I send file on without even opening them. Then it would be good to have the in and out real time checking of mail. btw, caught a virus just now. Came in an excel file. AGP wouldn't let me open it. It was a X97M/Laroux virus. Since I DID try to open it AGP caught it, but if I had forwarded it someone else would have gotten it. You may say that it should be their responsibility then, but I like to be able to stop spreading of this crap as effectively as I can. -- Best regards, Christianmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 3945810 "I'm not tense, just terribly terribly alert!" -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ICQ incompatibilities?
'Allo Bataholics!
But I`ve noticed that, when I have TB running, the contact list of
my ICQ (99b v 3.19 build#2969, is the lastest), regardless of my
settings (always on top), disappears and go back, behind all
windows.
I am using ICQ 99b beta.v3.17 build #2565. I can try to help?
Go into your preferences, make sure the
boxes ARE ticked for "Always on top" , "Make floating users always on
top". I have the "Autohide delay" DISABLED (NOT ticked) and the
"Make contact list pop up upon incoming event" DISABLED... I need to
get the newer version but haven't had a problem with ICQ staying on
top thus far...TB! running or not, ICQ docks on top, botton, left or
righthand side of the screen.
Ciao! :D
Regards,
~~~Angel ...your RDR "I am out of my mind..but please feel free to leave a message at
the hollow-tone.."
Monday, April 10, 2000 06:35:31
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Re: Anti virus software and The Bat!
Hello Thobias Nilsson, On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:09:56 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Monday, April 10, 2000, 7:09:56 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Thobias Nilsson wrote: Marek Mikus Using the best The Bat! 1.42 Beta/15 reg under the worst Windows 95 4.0 Build B Intel Celeron 266 MHz, 32 MB Does anyone know if Norton Antivirus works with The Bat! ? I am not sure Norton would find you the latest virus strains... Someone just found that he had an infection in a crack (g) and of the 9 (!) av tools Norton was the only one which didnt see it... And it was uptodate.. This by the way is the polite answer. personally I wouldnt want Norton or MCAFEE if they PAID me to use it... Thobias Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/15 with Windows 98 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Anti virus software and The Bat!
Hello Oleg Zalyalov, On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:27:22 +0500 GMT your local time, which was Monday, April 10, 2000, 8:27:22 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Oleg Zalyalov wrote: Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Monday, April 10, 2000, Christian Dysthe wrote to Thomas Fernandez about Anti virus software and The Bat!: CD What I am looking for though is having the scanner actually scan the CD mail on it's way in (or out for that matter) and intervene if they are CD infected (some scanners also tag the mails as well with some text CD telling they are clean). Why do you want to slow down your connection? All files you send/receive with TB! are perfectly safe until you start them by hands. Is the percent of infected files you receive, so high for you? In MY case I was once teleporting a website and I fell asleep and the thing ended up on a virus site so about 3 of samples were saved per letter as zip... Quite a shocker to find that stuff on my drive. Even more to find that some programs just saw 50-60 % of them... Anyway, correct as long as you donot look at them, open them and in general know what you do, a virus doesnt do anything. Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/15 with Windows 98 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Anti virus software and The Bat!
Christian, Regarding your message dated: Monday, April 10, 2000... CD What I am looking for though is having the scanner actually scan the CD mail on it's way in (or out for that matter) and intervene if they are CD infected (some scanners also tag the mails as well with some text CD telling they are clean). I know just the thing to do this although there is one area of 'overlap' which I'll explain in a second... There is a product called "Invisimail" which is designed more for the invisible encryption/decryption of messages that you send and receive. It uses the RPK algorithm which is basically as good as the PGP algorithm since they both use more-or-less the same mathematical problem as their basis. However, since TB! has builtin support for PGP this is not such a bonus. However, it does also have builtin anti-virus support and it automatically 'quarentines' infected mail in a separate area to avoid system contamination. The way invisimail works is quite elegant and is suitable for (probably) any mail client that uses POP3 or IMAP. Basically, invisimail sets up a proxy on your machine which you give the details of your POP3/IMAP/SMTP servers to. You tell your mail client (TB! for example) that your POP3/IMAP/SMTP servers have the address... proxy.yourmachine.com (or whatever!) Then when you try to send/receive mail TB! sends its signals/requests to invisimail believing it to be a true server and invisimail 'invisibly' passes these across to the real servers. It it detects that you are sending/receiving from another invisimail user it will automatically compress and/or encrypt the messages/attachments too. I tried the demo version of this last year and was highly impressed. It really does work invisibly and it did catch one of those 'worm' virus mails (Melissa I think it was called) sent out by some poor person using Outlook's address book who was therefore unaware they had done so... You may or may not like it yourself but if you want to find out more goto... http://www.invisimail.com/ Cheers, Mark -- - Using TheBat! 1.41 Windows NT 4 0 1381 Service Pack 6 - Get Paid to Surf - http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=HZJ982 - Mark R Harding The Integrated Systems Group (Vision) Department of Electronics Electrical Engineering The University of Edinburgh, King's Buildings, Mayfield Road Edinburgh. EH9 3JL. Scotland. U.K. Phone: +44 (0)131 650 5662 Fax:+44 (0)131 650 6554 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.ee.ed.ac.uk/~mrh/ - PGP-Key Available at: http://www.ee.ed.ac.uk/~mrh/pgp.html - -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Anti virus software and The Bat!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday, April 10, 2000, 10:22:13 AM, you wrote: Does anyone know if Norton Antivirus works with The Bat! ? I curently use Norton Antivirus 2000 with TB! just fine. You have to manually configure TB! but it works just fine without ANY resourse problems. Chuck Smith - --- The Bat! - automatic mail servant of Chuck Smith. The BAT! ver. 1.42 Beta/15 Windows NT 4.0 build 1381 Service Pack 6 Website : http://www.online-str.com You may also contact me via ICQ at 12185766 or with MSN Messanger at [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Of course power tools and alcohol don't mix. Everyone knows power tools aren't soluble in alcohol ..." -- Crazy Nigel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.2 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com Comment: Public Key available at http://www.online-str.com/ccspub.asc iQA/AwUBOPHmVBXVjh2dZXmlEQJORACfaCRo4NOubwb2bSMXAJBaTMrqlUcAoOOx 1OHp3YYcVVyfswRUaAy2k0ch =60+B -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Anti virus software and The Bat!
Monday, April 10, 2000, 6:34:54 AM, Thomas wrote: Had a virus before. Been there. Don't need it again. ;-) So did I. In my ~14 years of computing I've had 1 virus sent to me through Fido-Net netmail and one I caught, I think, from a disgruntled coworker who was giving me some files before I left the company. In the first case it never got to infect since it was such a lame attempt at an attack it wasn't even funny. "Here, run this!" Small 2k .COM file. Yeah, right. In the latter case it was an annoyance and didn't spread. Had it cleaned up in less than 20 minutes. It is fairly trivial to avoid viruses. Of course I'm not a likely vector for any viruses to come my way. About 1/2 my computing is on Linux. The 1/2 that is on Windows is mostly games. I don't use Microsoft office products (prefer to stick to Star Office) so macro viruses don't get me and, clearly, I don't use an email client which can be used to pass it on (*cough* Lookout! *cough*). I download only from reputable sites, don't open unknown binary attachments from strangers and generally keep a sound mind on things. IE, in three words (well, four): I'm computer savvy. To me having a virus checker running constantly would be pissing me off. In fact, at work, where it is policy, it does piss me off. I'd rather be running Linux so I know I'm not a vector instead of nearly being mandated on being one. Besides, I'm remembering why I like the console so much on Linux boxes. I'll be the sick one with 9 TTYs, each with screen and the possibility of 9 virtual TTYs on each one. A, 81 TTYs, controllable by sensible keystrokes. Anyway, I digress. Point is, viruses are mostly a product of hype and ignorance. The mere fact you're running TB! cuts down your possibility of being hit by one and being a vector of one a large amount. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Anti virus software and The Bat!
Howdy Dennis, Monday, April 10, 2000, 10:47:15 PM, you wrote: DWG Sub-Seven Gold, a Trojan, got past Norton AV 2000 and PC-cillin 98. DWG Both up-to-date. Both reacted but didn't stop the "dropper" from DWG dropping Sub-seven. My firewall, Zonealarm, prevented Sub-seven from DWG calling home. Yes..we had a problem just recently at work with a worm...our firewall AV software had crashed and allowed this worm through...it was picked up by both the latest editions of Nortons and Mcafee on the desktops, but neither could stop it doing its dirty work. Zone Alarm appears to be a good personal firewall. -- Best regards, Woofie Http://www.woofess.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Message downloading indicator box is off-screen
Not sure how this happened, nor how to remedy it ... The little notification box that pops up when you check for new mail (the one with the clock indicator and the analog left-to-right strip, with "downloading message 3 of 30", etc.) is off screen ... well, almost, I can see just the bottom of it, but cannot "grab" it to drag it back down on screen (it's traveling off the top of the screen). Anyone have an idea of how to grab it and get it back down where it belongs (I've tried changing screen resolution, running in various TB! modes (full screen, minimized, etc.) ... Is there a place in an .ini file where I can manually go in and change the coordinates? Chuck -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Chuck Mattsen[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.users.uswest.net/~mattsen =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Random Thought/Quote for this Message: The greater the ignorance, the greater the dogmatism. Using The Bat! 1.42 Beta/15 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Anti virus software and The Bat!
Monday, April 10, 2000, 8:01:32 AM, Thomas wrote: SL To me having a virus checker running constantly would be pissing me off. SL In fact, at work, where it is policy, it does piss me off. So, how much does it really slow down your work? Or is it more a matter of principle? It doesn't slow down my work but it doesn't help, either. A majority of my work at work is done through an exported X session and I run TB! for email. I think I've opened Word like, uhm, twice? IE, it is there, taking up RAM, taking up CPU cycles and it isn't doing one lick of good. Like I said, I'd love to be running Linux on this box right now since I am much more productive in that environment for the work that I do. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Anti virus software and The Bat!
Hi there! On 10 Apr 00, at 13:09, Marek Mikus wrote about "Re[2]: Anti virus software and The Bat!": Okay, guys, let's _stop_ finally introducing our own favourite antiviruses! If you really want to know, which AV tools are the best, go and look at the latest Virus Bulletin results. These can be found, for example, at www.drweb.ru (English version: www.sald.com). If you are lazy (like me;-)), I'll tell you: 1. Dr.Web (99% of virii "in the wild") 2. AVP (approx. 99% of virii "in the wild" ) 3. F-Prot (95%) . XXX. NAV (it's one of the worst: 90% of virii "in the wild"). But of course, if you want to get nice GUI rather then to scan for virii, then even WinAmp will very probably serve your needs;-)) CD Does anyone know if anti virus software exist that will check mail CD delivered and sent from The Bat!? If not I would like to help make CD sure it happens. I use Trend PC-Cillin. It has caught viruses (or viri?) sent to me by mail, ie to The Bat!. Maybe you want to change your AV scanner? When will have TB support for MAPI (version 2.0 of TB), AVG will have support for checking sent and received mails in TB :-)) The antivirus product AVG is developed by distinguished czech company Grisoft from my town :-) Whole company uses The Bat! :- -- SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) http://mph.phys.spbu.ru/~akiselev --- Thought for the day: If you don't like the answer, you shouldn't have asked the question. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Message downloading indicator box is off-screen
On Monday, April 10, 2000 at 10:26 AM or thereabouts, Mark R Harding wrote the following about Message downloading indicator box is off-screen: CM Anyone have an idea of how to grab it and get it back down where it CM belongs (I've tried changing screen resolution, running in various CM TB! modes (full screen, minimized, etc.) ... Mark Try this if the box is onscreen for more than a few seconds... Mark 1: Click on the window's icon on the taskbar. Mark 2: Press the Alt key once. Mark 3: Press the spacebar once. Thanks ... that did it (I had to send myself a reasonably large attachment just to allow it to be on screen long enough to manipulate it g) ... it's been awhile since I've moved a window that way ... I'm a mouse man. Thanks again. Chuck -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Chuck Mattsen[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.users.uswest.net/~mattsen =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Random Thought/Quote for this Message: An ulcer is what you get mountain climbing over molehills -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Anti virus software and The Bat!
On Monday, April 10, 2000, 16:33, Chuck Smith wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday, April 10, 2000, 10:22:13 AM, you wrote: Does anyone know if Norton Antivirus works with The Bat! ? I curently use Norton Antivirus 2000 with TB! just fine. You have to manually configure TB! but it works just fine without ANY resourse problems. Chuck Smith Where do I configure that in TB! ? I rather new at this program so I don't know where all options is. Thobias -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Anti virus software and The Bat!
Hello Steve Lamb, On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 07:40:33 -0700 GMT your local time, which was Monday, April 10, 2000, 9:40:33 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Steve Lamb wrote: (snipped a bit..) Anyway, I digress. Point is, viruses are mostly a product of hype and ignorance. The mere fact you're running TB! cuts down your possibility of being hit by one and being a vector of one a large amount. correct, one of the reasons I use the bat...and most of the time my scanners are off... It slows my system down. I have no office installed, no outlook and no outlook express in use. Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/15 with Windows 98 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Anti virus software and The Bat!
Hello Dennis W. Greer, On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 07:47:15 -0700 GMT your local time, which was Monday, April 10, 2000, 9:47:15 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Dennis W. Greer wrote: Hello tracer, Sub-Seven Gold, a Trojan, got past Norton AV 2000 and PC-cillin 98. Both up-to-date. Both reacted but didn't stop the "dropper" from dropping Sub-seven. My firewall, Zonealarm, prevented Sub-seven from calling home. One cannot really blame Av tools for not catching backdoors... But agreed a proper firewall would catch it. Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/15 with Windows 98 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Anti virus software and The Bat!
Hello Alexander V. Kiselev, On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:34:50 +0400 GMT your local time, which was Monday, April 10, 2000, 10:34:50 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: Hi there! On 10 Apr 00, at 13:09, Marek Mikus wrote about "Re[2]: Anti virus software and The Bat!": Okay, guys, let's _stop_ finally introducing our own favourite antiviruses! If you really want to know, which AV tools are the best, go and look at the latest Virus Bulletin results. These can be found, for example, at www.drweb.ru (English version: www.sald.com). If you are lazy (like me;-)), I'll tell you: 1. Dr.Web (99% of virii "in the wild") 2. AVP (approx. 99% of virii "in the wild" ) 3. F-Prot (95%) . XXX. NAV (it's one of the worst: 90% of virii "in the wild"). Over my collection that 'last one' doesnt get more then 65 % of whats on my system stored, not running... Other numbers sound about right.. I never tested winamp on them (g) Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/15 with Windows 98 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: another newbie qs
Hello Allie, On Monday, April 10, 2000 at 07:17:05 GMT -0500 (which was 5:17 AM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: IOW's, I would prefer if the option to animate the TB! icon was made account specific instead of global. Better yet, folder specific, just like the MailTicker. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.42 Beta/16 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: another newbie qs
Hello Thomas, On Monday, April 10, 2000 at 21:18:14 GMT +0800 (which was 6:18 AM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Is it? How old do unread messages have to be to not be shown in the Mticker? And, does the creation date or the received date count? You can specify the age by right clicking on the Mail Ticker. Then Select Messages. I don't know if it is the creation date or received, but my guess would be received. I seem to remember being able to configure more than this for the mailTicker, but maybe I'm mistaken. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.42 Beta/16 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Resend how.
A Chairde, How does Re-send work? Shift-F6. I select a message in the message pane, and then hit Shift+F6. Nope. Open the message and select Re-send from the menu, yes. Why is there not a Re-send on the context R/C context menu? Re-direct, yes! No Re-send. Just curious about this feature as I have been using Re-send from the menu a lot lately due to stupid SMTP problems that I can't figure out...probably ISP woes. Anyhow, here's hoping this gets to the List before the next millennium - unlikely at the moment. -- Slán anois, Simon (-: [iconoclast] The Bat! v 1.42 Beta/16 on Windows 98 SE v===v===v===v===v===v===v===v===v===v===v===v===v===v===v===v===v===v===v Send Email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax Voicemail: 01792 540900 (+44) PGP Public Key: http://www.netbanger.com/pgp/pubkey.shtml v===v===v===v===v===v===v===v===v===v===v===v===v===v===v===v===v===v===v -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Anti virus software and The Bat!
On Monday, April 10, 2000, 11:16:53 AM, Chuck Smith wrote: 1. Enable e-mail protection in NAV 2000. 2. Change setting in TB! POP server 127.0.0.1 user username/mail.isp.com Chuck, don't you find that: 1) E-Mail Scanning with NAV eats up a huge chunk of System Resources? 2) I heard that using 127.0.0.1 had an inherent security risk? Nick -- --=N.J. (Nick) Andriash=-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID: 0x2924D361 --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
reading mail
Hello Bat-sters One strange behavior I have noticed using TB is when reading a message. If you want to scroll using the up and down buttons, one must place the cursor at the top or bottom of the page to save time as the scroll buttons won't scroll the window until the cursor reaches the top or bottom of the window. Does anyone know how to get around this? -- guano, :-) Chris VanHonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGPKeyRequest Or go to http://www.vanhonk.com/key/ "I have nothing to declare except my genius." -Oscar Wilde I'm Using The Bat! 1.42 Beta/16 under Windows 98 410 Build A on a Presario Lap-top AMD K6-2 400 with 128MB -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
RegEx Help (was: How to filter email messages in which I'm in CC (using kludges?) ??)
Hi Nick, On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:36:39 -0700GMT (11/04/2000, 10:36 +0800GMT), Nick Andriash wrote: NA I've always thought I had the latest "complete" install, along with the NA latest Beta. My Help file is dated 24/02/2000, but it doesn't include NA anything on regular expressions. That's the one I have, and RegExps are described here. They are kind of hidden, I didn't find them at first either. OK, when you open Help Topics, you have two tabs, the left one shows you the chapter names, the right one lets you search. The search will lead to nothing if you try searching for "regular expressions". But there is a chapter for Regular Expressions under the first tab, just scroll down. Sorry I don't know what the tabs' names are, they are all written in Chinese. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.41 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
